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Between 2023-08-06 00:00:00Z and 2023-08-07 00:00:00Z

cauldron

From an interview from 2022

>Evrone: In your opinion, is software development closer to art or science? Does it allow deviations from traditional techniques or do you have to strictly follow the main direction? >Bram: I do not see much science in software development. Science implies there is proof that something is true. In software, there are a lot of opinions and there is experience, but is there any proof that one programming language is better than another? Is there proof that object-oriented programming results in better productivity? Most proofs are about performance measurements, and there are statistics, but hardly any relation to what language a program was written in or what tools were used. It’s not art either, since the main goal is that software works well, not that it looks nice. It’s much more of a craft. And a craftsman uses whatever tools he thinks will get the best result, no matter if they are what everybody else is using or something different. And a good craftsman makes his own tools when needed.

So sad that we are losing this generation of coders

i almost considered installing vim but im too tired to learn

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

9657de9 A GetCarry - ddnet-maps

Voxel

i almost considered installing vim but im too tired to learn

Dont learn vim, learn vim motions gigachad

gigachad

whats vim motions

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@Robyt3 omg epic Gamer moment. 40x faster in worst case.. always waste RAM for more performance

06:14

Gj

Ryozuki

he was not just doing edits, he was a core dev for 30? years

Not to confuse with https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Joy Who is the original author of vi, which vim is based on

William Nelson Joy (born November 8, 1954) is an American computer engineer and venture capitalist. He co-founded Sun Microsystems in 1982 along with Scott McNealy, Vinod Khosla, and Andy Bechtolsheim, and served as Chief Scientist and CTO at the company until 2003. He played an integral role in the early development of BSD UNIX while being a gr...

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

a6c9b4f Add 5 € donation by bencie - def-

I am thinking about giving variables a try for chillerbot-ux as in you can read out the value of a config variable and pass it to a console command such as echo $player_name

08:26

would this get chillerbot-ux blacklisted as a cheat client?

08:28

there is probably no git config surface free way of doing it anyways probably will not do it

Please do it

08:28

xd

08:42

jopsti i love your approach to sabotage my 0.7 development. Instead of hating on me doing 0.7 you are just very supportive of EVERYTHING else i do. It causes such a good atmoshphere.

09:05

put bots on ur 0.7 client

09:05

xd

ChillerDragon

jopsti i love your approach to sabotage my 0.7 development. Instead of hating on me doing 0.7 you are just very supportive of EVERYTHING else i do. It causes such a good atmoshphere.

pls allow 0.7 to die

chillerdragon when are u adding the ad popups

pepeW

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xd ad popups

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xd

Randomly stumbled upon a @ChillerDragon youtube comment. Small world

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selled -> sold

omagawd english woopsie

10:46

@Cipy29 its a fun talk isnt it?

10:47

this is the link btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGl6kpSajag

USENIX Enigma Conference

USENIX Enigma 2016 - Timeless Debugging

I wonder how well his debugger works in practice, definitely made me curious

10:48

Did you use it?

No I always watch talks to fool my self into being productive and never act on it. Only liveoverflow managed to get me to get active after watching his videos :)

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

a9cd2d7 Add 4 € donation by Erenzy - def-

@Erenzy Thanks for the donation ^

justatest

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help

11:41

my game instantly crashes when i turn off entities in this random map called blmapv7 i found in a server

11:41

DDNet_win64-steam_crash_log_2023-08-06_13-37-34_6952_29ec71ad337d3e48730ac45023dc427c8af4f173.RTP

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11:43

i can open the map in the editor completely fine though

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6967 Update translations for upcoming 17.2

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-ad...

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

ef5ffed Rework base IO functions on Windows using HANDLE - Robyt3 648d975 Merge pull request #6937 from Robyt3/Base-Windows-File-HANDLE - def-

12:45

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6937 Rework base IO functions on Windows using HANDLE

12:45

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6922 Saving map in editor doesn't work on Windows when map is loaded on server

cyberFighter

my game instantly crashes when i turn off entities in this random map called blmapv7 i found in a server

Please send the map

oh yeah oops

12:46

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Works for me with Vulkan. Try updating your AMD driver. If you are using beta, switch to stable release instead. Or try the other way around.

12:50

I only noticed in the map that one of the external images cannot be found

12:51

Can you try changing this image to something else and test if that still crashes if you use the modified map on a local server?

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i tried opengl rn and it only crashes on vulkan i guess

Or removing the image entirely would also work to test I guess

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12:53

Then we could figure out if it's something we can prevent or if it's a bug in the AMD driver

yup doesnt crash if i change the image

Thanks for the info

cyberfig pro debugger

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6968 Client crashes ingame when external map image cannot be loaded when using Vulkan and AMD

Example map: BlmapV7.zip Doesn't crash in editor. Crash log: ``` DDNet.exe caused an Access Violation at location 00007FFB445D2CFE in module amdvlk64.dll Reading from location 0000000000000010. AddrPC Params 00007FFB445D2CFE 00000165D2E97838 0000005666BFF8C0 00000165DE841D60 amdvlk64.dll!vk_icdNegotiateLoaderICDInterfaceVersion+0x24ebe 00007FFB49EAC6C3 0000005666BFF8C0 00007FF600000001 00000165D2E50520 vul...

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6969 Version 17.2

6969

POGGIES

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6970 Fix redirect release version

See #6969 (hihi)

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@cyberFighter

[ddnet:17.2-rc1] 3 new commits

0fa06b0 Update translations for upcoming 17.2 - def- c53f94d Version 17.2 - def- 7c8aaa0 Fix redirect release version - ChillerDragon

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mega funny number

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BLEHHHH

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6971 Translation updating script sometimes breaks translations with context

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6967#discussion_r1285220104

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

0fa06b0 Update translations for upcoming 17.2 - def- c5a4447 Fix redirect release version - ChillerDragon a413f18 Merge pull request #6970 from ChillerDragon/pr_fix_red_rls - def- 66c331b Merge pull request #6967 from def-/pr-transl - Robyt3

15:03

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6967 Update translations for upcoming 17.2

15:03

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6970 Fix redirect release version

15:07

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

3f81793 Update 17.2 translation stats - def-

15:12

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6972 Fix client crash with more than MAX_VOTE_OPTIONS vote options

The server does not allow adding more than MAX_VOTE_OPTIONS vote options, so the client will now also refuse to add more options than that. Supersedes #6930.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[X] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing ...

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

95cb517 Fix email address - def-

[ddnet-web:pr-17.2] 1 new commit

94aa0a9 Version 17.2 - def-

15:41

[ddnet/ddnet-web] New branch created: pr-17.2

15:42

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #265 Version 17.2

15:45

[ddnet-web:pr-17.2] 1 new commit

523b5c9 Version 17.2 - def-

ChillerDragon: the goto command was a long needed function, nice addition

Thanks owo

I agree more of these awesome commits please

xd

100 times faster font rendering Clickbait

Blazingly fast fonts

16:08

Don’t we all do clickbait in our commit messages?

"Replaced all remaining javascript with rust"

chillerdragon

Don’t we all do clickbait in our commit messages?

Yeah kind of

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/2038

Overkill optimize editor code runs 200 fps faster by ChillerDragon ...

16:09

It’s all marketing

i hate marketing !

FPS+= 200

Voxel

i hate marketing !

All scammers

I use optifine.jar to 10x boost my ddnet fps

16:12

U use optifine for zoom feature

16:12

Xd

zooz

16:12

In fng

konsti

Is that an actual commit? Xd (@Jupstar ✪)

"Replaced all remaining javascript with rust"

@Robyt3 FT_Error_String requires me to update to freetype 2.10 btw, I hope that won't hit any linux users

chillerdragon

Is that an actual commit? Xd (@Jupstar ✪)

It's my next clickbait commit

Pog

deen

@Robyt3 FT_Error_String requires me to update to freetype 2.10 btw, I hope that won't hit any linux users

We could probably fix it with an #ifdef if it's a problem

Most windows users that try Linux use Ubuntu 12 for whatever reason

Xd

16:16

I think even chairn uses ubuntu 22 now

Robyt3

We could probably fix it with an #ifdef if it's a problem

Let's wait and see, don't want to waste effort

So we should be fine xd

!ddos

ChillerDragon

!ddos

Command not found!

$ddos

16:57

lerato add !ddos

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

2ea8273 Fix client crash with more than MAX_VOTE_OPTIONS vote options - Robyt3 42e1674 Merge pull request #6972 from Robyt3/Client-Vote-Option-Crash-Fix - def-

16:57

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6972 Fix client crash with more than MAX_VOTE_OPTIONS vote options

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6930 Fix client crash when server votes num > MAX_VOTE_OPTIONS

NaNi

16:58

no ram

16:58

ah it back

16:59

50M incoming traffic is ddos isnt it? my internet is trash but not that bad

17:00

oh o i timedout

17:01

i spammed /save but didnt go through :c

17:02

pog it stopped

17:02

seeing live server stats on https://ddnet.org/status/ is very cool!

17:05

ohno

17:05

blazingly new fonts are invisible for me

17:05

idk why i decided to merge while being timouted xd

good update

i thought its new linux kernel or sumsin but i rebooted and the issue stayed

17:09

lemme try ddnet without chiller hax

Any error in the console?

17:10

Maybe you are missing the font index file or the fonts

17:10

Because existing fonts were also renamed

oh ddnet works

17:10

so its a me issue

17:10

there is a index file ?

17:11

ah ok lemme make install

i always wondered why do text atlases have different sized characters

If you render only one size and then up/downscale it wouldn't look good

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If we used SDF we would only need one size I think but I haven't looked into how that works

ahh

how is the font index file called?

17:16

data/fonts/index.json?

yes

17:16

maybe you ignore it in your gitignore

17:16

previously it ignored all .json files

i just dont have it system wide

17:17

Embedded image

17:17

do i need anything else?

17:18

do i also need to add some new fonts?

yeah, you need to make sure that the filename of the fonts match

ok lemme mv data from the build dir then

The fonts were updated and some were renamed

oh yikes that have me a full on blackscreen xd

17:20

guess im starting my client from the build folder until ddnet 17.2 released and my package manager sets up the system files

17:20

thanks for the info tho robsti

Mh interesting

17:23

Does it cause the black screen in #bugs too? @Robyt3 can u check, wats is Russian. Maybe some files are missing or smth

In don't know how this would cause a black screen. I can start the client fine with absolutely no files except the .exe and .dlls.

i mean i clearly messed something up with the data dir

17:27

if i delete the data dir i just get a black screen

17:27

that used to be the all colorful one which was at least playable

Well I dunno, was random thought

Can you send console log with loglevel 2?

anyone know how to fix this when using cmake?

cmake_compile.txt

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17:29

missing a lot of stuff

Did you forget cloning the submodules? Do git submodule update --init --recursive

pog i got the url DD

17:30

https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/DD

17:31

this is loglevel 2 of selfcompiled ddnet master on GNU/Linux gnome with no relative or absolut data dir available

He uses OpenGL

17:31

Is that makes a difference

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What are u even using without data dir @Robyt3 .. shouldn't it only work with like OpenGL 1 which uses no shaders

Ah, looks like it falls back to OpenGL 1 without data dir

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Maybe the fallback doesn't work for everyone

Robyt3

Did you forget cloning the submodules? Do git submodule update --init --recursive

oh yeah it works now thanks sir

Jupstar ✪

What are u even using without data dir @Robyt3 .. shouldn't it only work with like OpenGL 1 which uses no shaders

I also get the black screen on launch when starting without data dir with OpenGL 3.3 (edited)

17:37

When starting with Vulkan it successfully falls back to OpenGL 1, any with OpenGL 1 it "works"

Guess the VK error handling is simply better

17:39

For this soefici case

17:40

Data dir must exist elitist

@Robyt3 now it says Access denied when i try to run it in vs

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iKizu

@Robyt3 now it says Access denied when i try to run it in vs

Make ddnet start program

17:40

Right click

where

In the list on the right

Or use "Build solution" instead of building the individual modules

Robyt3

Or use "Build solution" instead of building the individual modules

a lot of errors are popping up

so you guys just did talk about antiddos here and forgot about it?

iKizu

a lot of errors are popping up

Post errors

make a separate chat thread, i don't know

Robyt3

Post errors

its in polish tho but maybe you can get smth out of it

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iKizu

its in polish tho but maybe you can get smth out of it

Did you install rust?

yes i did

Run rustup show in a command prompt

17:50

And post the output

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6973 Autosave run on timeout

Let players pick a /save password in the settings and send it similar like the timeout code on connect, Now the server can trigger a save of the player if the network connection is lost (before the "Timeout" kick would be triggerd). This would be as limited as the /save command so only on solo servers or in teams. Maybe even only on solo servers not sure what the trade offs and possible annoyances are if a team mate times out and locks the whole team with his save password. This should fi...

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Looks correct. The errors look like this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/7668200/error-lnk2038-mismatch-detected-for-iterator-debug-level-value-0-doesnt

error LNK2038: mismatch detected for '_ITERATOR_DEBUG_LEVEL': value...

I have read a lot of solutions to my problem but none helped. I tried clean, rebuild. Reinstalled visual 2010 and change from professional to ultimate. But still I dont know why I have this error. ...

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ddoses are solved

17:54

troll

axax

@iKizu Can you try with debug/release mode instead (whatever one you are not currently using).

fixed thanks

18:09

@ChillerDragon if try use goto_tele but map dont have any tele, client will crush. map for example - savannaDrag

lolkildal

@ChillerDragon if try use goto_tele but map dont have any tele, client will crush. map for example - savannaDrag

I'll fix it

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6974 Fix crash when using goto_tele in map without tele layer

The check for goto_switch is added for completeness but not strictly necessary, as this is also checked in GetSwitchNumber.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affe...

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Probably uninitialized memory, I'll take a look

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6975 Emote on focus lost

Add an option to display an emote (Zzz) when the player alt-tabs or clicks off the game, would be useful for letting other players in the run know when you've clicked on a notification and they shouldn't start any parts involving you, or should save you last.

omagawd #6969 is full of chiler bugs

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6969

Version 17.2 by def- · Pull Request #6969 · ddnet/ddnet

DDNet 17.2 is supposed to release in 1 week, assuming no bad bugs are found. Please test the Release Candidate to prevent problems being only discovered after release. Report bugs in the #bugs chan...

@lolkildal good find thanks :)

when add button in demo browser that opens up rendered videos folder in file explorer

ChillerDragon: we have a working fork of teeworlds, it's called ddnet

[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request opened: #48 Add new settings, commands and tunings for wiki page

Used to generate https://wiki.ddnet.org/index.php?title=Settings_and_Commands&curid=161&diff=23884&oldid=19966&diffmode=source

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github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

c4dcdad Fix crash when using goto_tele in map without tele layer - Robyt3 ac558b0 Merge pull request #6974 from Robyt3/Client-Goto-Tele-Crash-Fix - def-

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6974 Fix crash when using goto_tele in map without tele layer

[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request closed: #48 Add new settings, commands and tunings for wiki page

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[ddnet-scripts:master] 2 new commits

0445a2e Add new settings, commands and tunings for wiki page - Zwelf 2c21bd1 Merge pull request #48 from Zwelf/pr-wiki-new-settings - def-

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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

271df38 Update settings & commands - def-

what are vim motions

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doesnt git bash use vim motions or smth

holy shit

23:39

i just got jumpscared by the quitting screen

heinrich5991

ChillerDragon: we have a working fork of teeworlds, it's called ddnet

gigachad

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