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murpi

@Ravie Try now

works, when fix licenses btw?

let me check

00:08

fixed that too

@heinrich5991 There seems to be some sort of regression with this PR https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/296. I'm not sure I understand how it ever worked. (edited)

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02:19

I was able to fix it by adding m_FlagMask | CFGFLAG_GAME to the FindCommand call in ExecuteLineStroked. without this it seems like FindCommand will never find commands with CFGFLAG_GAME because the client's m_FlagMask is CFGFLAG_CLIENT by default.

02:20

but I can't figure out how it ever worked because from what I can see even the old version of FindCommand should have filtered out all the CFGFLAG_GAME configs

02:21

also the client's CFGFLAG_GAME configs aren't reset between map changes so I had to add a call to Console()->ResetServerGameSettings();

02:22

This fixes https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6774 as far as I can tell but I don't know how it got broken in the first place

02:27

Did it ever work?

02:29

I guess we could also initialize the client's console m_FlagMask with CFGFLAG_GAME | CFGFLAG_CLIENT, instead of only CFGFLAG_CLIENT because those should be all the configs it cares about. (edited)

02:34

I feel I must be missing some reason that it should be working

Tater

@heinrich5991 There seems to be some sort of regression with this PR https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/296. I'm not sure I understand how it ever worked. (edited)

CFGFLAG_GAME was mostly about the server when it was introduced. I think someone else tried executing the configs on the client as well later on

07:29

not sure if it ever worked

heinrich5991

CFGFLAG_GAME was mostly about the server when it was introduced. I think someone else tried executing the configs on the client as well later on

But why would the client call LoadMapSettings() in CGameClient::OnConnected() if it wasn't supposed to be able to execute the configs embeded in the map?

I wish obs would offer a VK plugin to tell which frame buffers it should read from. I'd find it cool to render the game without anti ping and entities for the users. While the steamer still sees the gameplay content

Tater

But why would the client call LoadMapSettings() in CGameClient::OnConnected() if it wasn't supposed to be able to execute the configs embeded in the map?

no such thing is in the PR afaict

08:21

hence "someone else tried executing the configs on the client as well later on"

Ewan

i'd be surprised if you can't turn on all strong on a per-map basis

then be surprised

this comes from https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/1904 apparently

Add tune zone prediction by trml · Pull Request #1904 · ddnet/ddnet

Is enabled with cl_predict_ddrace 1. This will predict tunings loaded from the map the first time tunezones are entered, but will also update the tunes after you receive new tunes while in a tunezo...

08:22

and trml added CFGFLAG_CLIENT to the relevant config

08:23

so I guess your solution might be better

it seems actually quite easy to make the client work with CFGFLAG_GAME, is there any reason the client shouldn't keep track of those?

08:24

Maybe I'll just make a PR and you can judge if there's any unexpected consequences

https://inkscape.org/news/2023/07/23/inkscape-launches-version-13-focus-organizing-work/

Inkscape launches version 1.3 with a focus on organizing work effic...

With version 1.3 of Inkscape, you’ll find improved performance, several new features, and a solid set of improvements to a few existing ones. This version is squarely focused on helping users get organized and work more efficiently with our free and open source vector-editing software.

09:21

https://blog.aurel32.net/welcome-debian-riscv64.html

Aurélien Jarno - Welcome Debian riscv64

After many years of effort, I am happy to announce that Debian riscv64 is now an official architecture! This milestone is not the end of the...

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6906 Editor modified state is not updated when envelopes are changed

@Ryozuki @Jupstar ✪ im finally moving on from ubuntu 18 to ubuntu 22, trying to skip ubuntu 20

09:35

90.47 KB

09:35

wish me luck

<Jupstar > ITS HAPPENING

epic

<Jupstar > now also move away from win7 xdd

Ryozuki

https://blog.aurel32.net/welcome-debian-riscv64.html

And then open chairn.shop so I can try this out

oh nice

argh, unmet dependencies everywhere 10 mins in...

Hypocrite jopsti complaining about kog accounts and going strong on ddnet accounts axaxaxa

<Jupstar> chillerdragon: in my vision accounts are optional

10:03

<Jupstar> so if i implement it, i can make sure its true ;)

10:03

<Jupstar> also i dislike how overcomplicated kog is doing it xD

10:03

<Jupstar> that's not attractive to new users IMO

10:04

<Jupstar> and i respect that ppl want accounts to save their progress.. I personally am not interested in that

10:05

<Jupstar> i play the game for fun and skillz

optional means that you automatically generate a key pair if the user doesn't want an account, right?

10:05

(that's wat I read from your description)

<Jupstar> that's one way yes

10:06

<Jupstar> that would make it easier to "upgrade" the non account to an account

any idea how to solve massive unmet dependencies ?

unmet dependencies where?

<Jupstar> @Chairn i think last time i had this i simply used some fancy dpkg command to simply remove all annoying packages

10:10

<Jupstar> in worst case then do apt reinstall over all packages xd

heinrich5991

unmet dependencies where?

when upgrading from ubuntu 18 to ubuntu 22 directly

10:11

it complains about gcc and mostly qt stuff

Does it say why it won't pull it in?

i think it's because i installed some gcc version manually or from some ppa. But i disabled ppa before upgrading

10:12

gcc-7 : Depends: libgcc-7-dev (=7.5.0-3ubuntu1~18.04) but it is not installable) (edited)

you might need to uninstall the ppa packages before updating

i cant anymore

<Jupstar> use dpkg

whatever i try, it complains about unmet dependencies

<Jupstar> u can always force remove

hmm, ill try

Chairn

whatever i try, it complains about unmet dependencies

I'd be wary of using "force" flags

10:14

what does it tell you when you try to remove gcc-7?

same thing

10:15

the unmet dependencies are always the same (weird though)

<Jupstar> yeah within apt you probably cannot recover from this anymore easily

dpkg -r gcc-7

10:15

that doesn't work?

well, i guess i have to manually remove each package following the dependency list

does gcc-7 depend on libgcc-7-dev or the other way around?

10:19

if gcc-7 depends on libgcc-7-dev, then it should not be a problem to remove gcc-7 without also removing libgcc-7-dev, right?

<Jupstar> if it's fixable within apt you can simply do apt install --fix-broken it should automatically suggest which packages to remove

nah, it complains about unmet dependency too

10:37

dpkg -r seems to work fine, but it's all manual

10:44

okay, i reverted my sources.list and will simply do release-upgrade

Lol

10:45

Distro upgrades just never go well

@Learath2 thats why u use rolling

10:57

like gentoo

10:57

just make sure to update atleast once ever some months

10:57

thats conservatively

Ubuntu sux

i update every day like a maniac

That's why u don't update

@Robyt3 for me the selection is still working fine in the updated version. do you have any more info on when it was inconsistent?

marmare_314

@Robyt3 for me the selection is still working fine in the updated version. do you have any more info on when it was inconsistent?

You can only move envelope points up and down when moving the mouse very fast. Previously this was an issue only with very low mouse speeds, but now it happens also with default mouse sensitivity.

Robyt3

You can only move envelope points up and down when moving the mouse very fast. Previously this was an issue only with very low mouse speeds, but now it happens also with default mouse sensitivity.

Ah I didnt notice since my mousespeed is quite high. But its probably because MouseDeltaX() is used and the resulting value gets stored in a fixed precision number. The only solution that comes to mind is to use the absolute mouse position instead. That would still not solve this issue for high precision mode though. (edited)

If you fail this you are in for an awful day

12:02

I once just gave up on a too old gentoo system, just reinstalled

Image attachment

12:02

lol

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

shit take

Am I just stupid for not using gpt? I feel like it's an awful habit to get into

you're not stupid for not using gpt

12:05

other ppl are stupid for bragging about it

I have a feeling we are about to get a wave of gpt dependent developers

Ryozuki

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I'm definitely not spending 20 dollars on 2.5 coffees ^^

me neither

12:11

i get a coffee with milk for 1.3€

12:11

1.1€ in cheap places

Voxel

shit take

i know xd its funny twitter post

heinrich5991

I'm definitely not spending 20 dollars on 2.5 coffees ^^

You definitely don’t live in silicon valley

Learath2

Am I just stupid for not using gpt? I feel like it's an awful habit to get into

dunno, trying it out a little is probably helpful

12:20

to assess whether it's useful to you

It probably is useful for small stuff but I have this feeling it’d make me a worse programmer overall

the fact u say this i think u dont need to worry

12:23

just see what it answers skeptically

12:23

xd

12:23

like anything u see on the internet

12:24

altho its diferent cuz, for me chatgpt will never be seen as a authoritive figure in any field

12:24

for example if i read a blog about someone who is known to be rly good at X, i will most likely trust what he says is right

12:24

but not for chatgpt

12:25

welcome to my ted talk

The first stage of grief is denial greenthing

greenthing

have you tried programming with gpt? what's your evaluation?

I wasn’t serious

12:45

But independent of programming, the denial towards ai is a real thing

I'd be happy if I could tell an LLM to fix my scanner driver

12:47

I don't see that it's there though

Learath2

If you fail this you are in for an awful day

still running, but i'll have to do it twice, first to move to ubuntu 20, then to ubuntu 22...

Learath2

Am I just stupid for not using gpt? I feel like it's an awful habit to get into

i use it more like google

13:05

not like 'write me an algorithm to do this'

given a suficiently famous algorithm it will probs do it correct

13:06

like binary search

ye it does get a lot of things pretty correct

it wont do it as fast as this guy tho https://en.algorithmica.org/hpc/data-structures/binary-search/

@Davide ohno i got firewalled mid run

13:09

oke website fixed it

@Jupstar ✪ Is there a reason why the font atlas is stored as part of CFont? Right now we seem to use two font atlases in total, one for the icon font and one for all other fonts, because there are only two CFont objects. Fallback fonts are currently stored as part of the CFont objects. Is it better to a) have less atlases to avoid the texture switching, or b) would it make more sense to have an atlas for every individual font, or c) only one atlas for all fonts including the icon font? Asking because I'll likely rework it for #6881.

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6881

Support using different font family variants depending on user lang...

https://heistak.github.io/your-code-displays-japanese-wrong/ TL;DR: There are characters (e.g. all in 刃直海角骨入) that look different depending on the language of the content being Japanese, Simplified...

<Jupstar> @Robyt3 i guess its fine to store all stuff into one font. that the icon font is seperate is probably mostly bcs it could™ clash with "real" unicode characters (?)

14:07

<Jupstar> one atlas*

14:08

<Jupstar> but you should rebuild the atlast when changing fonts ofc ^^

14:09

<Jupstar> i dunno, its only triggered by language change in future?

14:09

<Jupstar> and while u at it, replace the std::map with std::unordered_map

i think i just killed my linux laptop, it hangs at reboot on screen splash

<Jupstar> @Chairn i can quickly build you a gamer pc, np

uh no thx

<Jupstar> @Chairn does it hang on the screen of the motherboard, or of ubuntu

ubuntu, it wasn't showing password prompt for disk locker

14:13

now, it seems to boot (still loading)

<Jupstar> still loading?

and the boot is successfull

14:14

session opened

<Jupstar> if u want faster boot times, u know where u can find me

hello from ubuntu 20

<Jupstar> next step is ubuntu 22? xd

yup

<Jupstar> epic

hmm

The following packages have been kept back:
  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libquazip5-1 libquazip5-dev libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 mesa-common-dev

<Jupstar> create a log on the performance difference playing latest ddnet on all 3 versions

14:21

<Jupstar> xd

14:21

<Jupstar> apt dist-upgrade

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  apturl atril libatrilview3 libquazip5-headers nautilus-share ubuntu-desktop ubuntu-desktop-minimal xubuntu-desktop
The following packages have been kept back:
  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 mesa-common-dev
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libquazip5-1 libquazip5-dev

14:22

weird

<Jupstar> well then dont do it

14:23

<Jupstar> sometimes some packages are already update

14:23

<Jupstar> d

i did anyway

14:23

i'll force reinstallation by removing then reinstalling

<Jupstar> bye ubuntu-desktop xdd

14:25

<Jupstar> u can also take the chance and upgrade to kubuntu

ws-client

<Jupstar> bye ubuntu-desktop xdd

it's just meta package, the description says it's safe to remove (edited)

<Jupstar> it's a sign

rofl, packages for ddnet have unmet dependencies...

14:30

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 build-essential : Depends: g++ (>= 4:9.2) but it is not going to be installed
 libglew-dev : Depends: libgl1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or
                        libgl-dev but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed or
                        libglu-dev
 libnotify-dev : Depends: libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.26) but it is not going to be installed
                 Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev but it is not going to be installed
 libsdl2-dev : Depends: libegl1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: libgl1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: libgles2-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: libglu1-mesa-dev but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: libibus-1.0-dev but it is not going to be installed
               Depends: libpulse-dev but it is not going to be installed

14:32

lol, looks like it installed gcc for ubuntu 22 though

14:32

gcc --version
gcc (Ubuntu 11.3.0-1ubuntu1~22.04.1) 11.3.0

<Jupstar> why do u even have so much problems upgrading ubuntu lmao. isnt it supposed to be stupidly easy with it

14:32

<Jupstar> did u try the ubuntu system upgrader

14:32

<Jupstar> instead of manually doing it

14:33

<Jupstar> well ok

14:33

<Jupstar> u already broke it fair enough

14:33

<Jupstar> since some packages are already ubuntu 22 xD

ws-client

<Jupstar> did u try the ubuntu system upgrader

that's what do-release-upgrade made

14:37

second round started

14:38

but yeah, i manually installed more recent version of some packages like gcc and git for instance

14:38

and i guess, it completely broke it because it couldn't remove one and install another version for some reason

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6907 Set default name when saving map under new name or as copy

When using "Save as" and "Save copy" set the default map name in the file dialog to "[current]_new" and "[current]_copy" respectively.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics th...

@Chairn did u update to the immediate next update first?

14:50

i think updates are only tested from one ot the following

14:50

without skipping

i tried skipping, it failed, so now i use the do-release-upgrade script

<Jupstar> he went full hipster, i like

src/game/client/prediction/entity.h

#define MACRO_ALLOC_HEAP() \
public: \
    void *operator new(size_t Size) \
    { \
        void *p = malloc(Size); \
        mem_zero(p, Size); \
        return p; \
    } \
    void operator delete(void *pPtr) \
    { \
        free(pPtr); \
    } \
\
private:

what exactly is the purpose for this?

here we go again

15:24

justatest

what did i do? justatest

justatest

(edited)

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1096101220579545178

15:25

check this

ah ok that answered my question xd

oh god

15:26

script crashed inthe middle of update...

15:28

now, i think it's truely lost

hi, so lately i've been more interested in unexplained videos again, people witnessing paranormal or demonic activity. i just want to ask, does anyone of you believe in supernatural, or well, maybe it is part of nature? anyways :D just wanna hear some opinions, as i myself do not really believe in ghosts and shit, but to me, there are a few events which really go unexplained. also within my personal circle

fokkonaut

hi, so lately i've been more interested in unexplained videos again, people witnessing paranormal or demonic activity. i just want to ask, does anyone of you believe in supernatural, or well, maybe it is part of nature? anyways :D just wanna hear some opinions, as i myself do not really believe in ghosts and shit, but to me, there are a few events which really go unexplained. also within my personal circle

i dont believe in paranormal, but i beleive in science

15:30

and science has unexplained stuff yet to be discovered

15:31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6w2M50_Xdk

Science Saved My Soul.

yea, that kinda was what i am trying to say "maybe it is part of nature?".

i love this philosophical vid

15:31

warning, its quite anti religious

thats okay, i dont really believe in that either :D

imho its rly good vid

i will put it on my watch list for later

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #264 New Map Release Rule Post

@def- can you take a look?

ryo i rate dat video 1/10

15:49

+1 for hating on religion rest is useless

did u watch it

15:52

its phisolosophy anyway

15:52

i bet u didnt watch it

15:52

ur attention span is too short

15:52

xd

hot topic but i cant wait until someone finds an exploit in reality and proves we Are in a simulation

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6908 Client crash in collision code when rendering hook line

Reported by @VoxelDoesCode:

i was lagging super hard during this so this was what i last saw i tried to send a message and thats when i crashed

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/assets/23437060/1855d97c-60bc-4181-a63a-83d34dff977b ``` 0x00000001401c815b: CCollision::IsTeleportHook(int) const at src/game/collision.cpp:681 (inlined by) CCollision::IntersectLineTeleHook(vector2_base, vector2_base, vector2_base, vector2_base, int*) const at src/game/collision.cpp:342 0x0000000140...

i watched the whole thing

15:57

bro is just bubbeling about universe

15:57

not bringing any good arguments against religion

15:58

claiming reiligion is dark and science is bright

15:58

seems shallow to me

15:58

also its not related to "unexplained" things fokko requested

15:59

"universe big i know many numbers and big scale so i must be epic or right"

i think u only watched the first part

16:12

anyway it doesnt matter xd

16:12

chilleru believe in ghosts?

my client is full of ghosts

16:15

almost everytime i play a map, i see one

ryo i seriously watched the full video from start till end in 1x speed

16:23

the guy uses unrelated facts as arguments for nothing and has no point

16:23

if he wasnt a elementary school teacher but a priest instead he could flip a few words and do the exact same video pro religion

16:24

i do not belive in ghosts

16:25

@Ryozuki what do you like about the video?

sry but its hard to argue when ur argument is "uses unrelated facts as arguments for nothing and has no point"

then dont argue

ok i wont

but tell me what you like

16:26

sell me the video

16:26

i dont get it

then u dont get it

16:26

its ok

-.-

philosophy is like this

philosophy seems like a excuse to talk nonsense and be cool

its about how one interprets the unexplained

16:28

the video about section

16:28

Yes, some of the thinkers to whom I owe my mental freedom were religious, like Newton, a Christian who believed God made the Earth - but showed me why the Earth would have formed without a god's help, or Faraday, who opened all our eyes to electromagnetism - and a world of electrons that obey dice, not gods. The brilliance and physical insight of these and many other religious scientists' minds are the very things that make gods getting humans pregnant, or angels whispering to prophets in caves, seem infantile.

>

Weird...

>

....I can see what geniuses said they could not - but then even a mouse on a giant's shoulder sees further if the giant is bowed in prayer.

>

I'm not against the Creator or Creators, if they exist, if they ever existed. I'm not against the search for the Creator(s). What blows MY mind is that people think organized religion has anything to do with it at all.

have you watched the video ryo? :p

16:30

it doesnt include a single fact that speaks against the existance of god imo

16:31

he just talks about the scale of the universe and says regilion uses fear while science makes you happy

16:31

could also talk about the scale of the universe and then say religion gives you hope and purpose while science just predicts the inevidable absence of life and pure darkness

says regilion uses fear while science makes you happy

I think religious people were generally happier

here is the transcript

16:32

https://zepfanman.com/2010/11/science-saved-my-soul-transcript/

Science Saved My Soul transcript | Zepfanman.com

The unofficial transcript from a 15-minute YouTube video about science and religion from a cosmological perspective.

16:32

if u dont want video

16:32

altho the video is nice xd

the visuals are a bit too old for me

16:32

and the music is depressing

the video is old

im such a hater

16:32

i know

Is there anything you like except 0.7 and shell?

Religions tell children they might go to hell and they must believe, while science tells children they came from the stars and presents reasoning they can believe. I’ve told plenty of young kids about stars and atoms and galaxies and the Big Bang and I have never seen fear in their eyes—only amazement and curiosity. They want more. Why do kids swim in it and adults drown in it? What happens to reality between our youngest years and adulthood? Could it be that someone promised us something so beautiful that our universe seems dull, empty, even frightening by comparison? It might still be made by a Creator of some kind but religion has made it look ugly. Religion paints everything not of itself as unholy and sinful while it beautifies and dignifies its errors, lies, and bigotry (like a pig wearing the finest robes). In its efforts to stop us facing reality, religion has become the reality we cannot face. Look at what religion has made us do, to ourselves and to each other. Religion stole our love and our loyalty and gave it to a book—to a telepathic father that tells his children that love means kneeling before him. Now I’m not a parent, but I say that those kids are gonna turn out messed up—it cannot be healthy for a child or a species.

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We were told long ago and for a long time that there was only the Earth—that we were the center of everything. That turned out to be wrong. We still haven’t fully adjusted. We’re still in shock. The universe is not what we expected it to be. It’s not what they told us it would be. This cosmic understanding is all new to us. But there’s nothing to fear. We’re still special. We’re still blessed. And there might yet be a heaven, but it isn’t going to be perfect. And we’re going to have to build it ourselves.

>

If I have something that could be called a soul that needed saving, then science saved it… from religion.

in fact bash is bloated

Very developer topic

and i dont really like 0.7

Learath2

Very developer topic

like always

lerato i like you <3

i mean its chiller who pushed this

16:35

its his fault

ChillerDragon

lerato i like you <3

<insert l.a. noire doubt meme>

Ryozuki

Religions tell children they might go to hell and they must believe, while science tells children they came from the stars and presents reasoning they can believe. I’ve told plenty of young kids about stars and atoms and galaxies and the Big Bang and I have never seen fear in their eyes—only amazement and curiosity. They want more. Why do kids swim in it and adults drown in it? What happens to reality between our youngest years and adulthood? Could it be that someone promised us something so beautiful that our universe seems dull, empty, even frightening by comparison? It might still be made by a Creator of some kind but religion has made it look ugly. Religion paints everything not of itself as unholy and sinful while it beautifies and dignifies its errors, lies, and bigotry (like a pig wearing the finest robes). In its efforts to stop us facing reality, religion has become the reality we cannot face. Look at what religion has made us do, to ourselves and to each other. Religion stole our love and our loyalty and gave it to a book—to a telepathic father that tells his children that love means kneeling before him. Now I’m not a parent, but I say that those kids are gonna turn out messed up—it cannot be healthy for a child or a species.

>

We were told long ago and for a long time that there was only the Earth—that we were the center of everything. That turned out to be wrong. We still haven’t fully adjusted. We’re still in shock. The universe is not what we expected it to be. It’s not what they told us it would be. This cosmic understanding is all new to us. But there’s nothing to fear. We’re still special. We’re still blessed. And there might yet be a heaven, but it isn’t going to be perfect. And we’re going to have to build it ourselves.

>

If I have something that could be called a soul that needed saving, then science saved it… from religion.

hmm, I feel like this is a misrepresentation of "religion"

heinrich religion enjoyer

gigachad

1

heinrich5991

hmm, I feel like this is a misrepresentation of "religion"

i mean religion has no fixed interpretation

16:35

i had a big dejavu right now lol

Ryozuki

i mean religion has no fixed interpretation

so it's kinda bad to say "all religion is bad"

Yeah I feel any representation of religion is a misrepresentation for atleast one person

Religions tell children they might go to hell and they must believe

this is not what I know or what I heard from other people about the way protestantism is taught in germany

im not religeous nor do i believe my life revolves around science i believe in fate

Religion paints everything not of itself as unholy and sinful while it beautifies and dignifies its errors, lies, and bigotry (like a pig wearing the finest robes).

that is also not true IME

16:40

(for protestantism in germany)

my life is the life where i live the longest and most succesful. me in other universes arent so lucky, but me, the one who knows i am me, will be the most successful

Voxel

im not religeous nor do i believe my life revolves around science i believe in fate

fate seems like some kind of religion to me

16:42

i believe that everyy atom has a fixed set move based on all previous atoms, which determines the next state of the universe

16:43

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory ? xd

Chaos theory is an interdisciplinary area of scientific study and branch of mathematics focused on underlying patterns and deterministic laws of dynamical systems that are highly sensitive to initial conditions, and were once thought to have completely random states of disorder and irregularities. Chaos theory states that within the apparent ran...

Ryozuki

i believe that everyy atom has a fixed set move based on all previous atoms, which determines the next state of the universe

i mean if we're all just atoms how do we know that we're thinking and seeing

Ryozuki

i believe that everyy atom has a fixed set move based on all previous atoms, which determines the next state of the universe

that's not the usual interpretation of quantum mechanics ^^ (edited)

i know

16:45

xd

16:45

thats my interpretation of my logical thinking i guess

16:45

but im interested in learning that

16:46

(i mean i said this without any research, its just what makes sense to me)

twintri

You never know what you'll get when you click this channel lol (edited)

isnt that awesome

Ddnet religion talk

if you don't believe in ddgod, please leave this chat

i believe in rust

17:21

in rust we trust

in trust we rust

science brought us the borrow checker

17:22

not religion

17:22

check mate

17:22

ur lifetime is invalid

was is random or was it destiny that the borrow checker was invented?

Ryozuki

i believe that everyy atom has a fixed set move based on all previous atoms, which determines the next state of the universe

.

yeah

17:24

"You’ve already made the choice. You’re here to understand why you’ve made it" - The Matrix 2

17:24

xDD

good quote lol

ikr

17:24

it's my favorite from that movie

finally, ubuntu 22 seems to work

i know

17:31

i knew

I believe only in eternal suffering

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6909 sv_banned_versions does not work with version -1 anymore

Reported by Kaya on Discord. Was working in 2018 according to them, but the logic now does not seem to reach the sv_banned_versions check when there is no DDNet version for a client.

havent tried compiling ddnet yegt

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6910 Fix "Multiplication result converted to larger type" alerts

Introduced by #6899.

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet...

have you seen https://lock.cmpxchg8b.com/zenbleed.html btw?

18:58

data leakage across processes or VMs

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

566324c Fix "Multiplication result converted to larger type" alerts - Robyt3 4c9cf9a Merge pull request #6910 from Robyt3/Graphics-Code-Scanning-Fixes - Chairn

19:01

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6910 Fix "Multiplication result converted to larger type" alerts

19:03

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6880 Force the reserved slot into the spectator team

19:05

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6911 bitset::test index 64 out of range due to super

From Discord:

[9:01 PM] texnonik: while in tune gravity 0 with weapons rocket , going in hit others :can't hit others tiles . and shooting and switching on off super ( also did before going in this tile ) after some time crashes server .

>

!Windows error box ![terminate called after throwing an instanc...

GitHub

Click to see attachment 🖼️

was gonna say, why is it closed, i found it an actual valid idea

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4791 Add proof-of-concept proxy support

@Chairn https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4850 not interested in continuing this?

Added default switch statement by Chairn · Pull Request #4850 · ddn...

Added default switch statement either with a comment or with a call to dbg_msg. During my tests, i couldn't trigger any of them, but its better to have a default case anyway. I didn't add d...

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

eb8619e Set default name when saving map under new name or as copy - Robyt3 e6725a9 Merge pull request #6907 from Robyt3/Editor-File-Save-Default-Value - heinrich5991

19:26

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6907 Set default name when saving map under new name or as copy

heinrich5991

@Chairn https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4850 not interested in continuing this?

hmm, not really

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #4850 Added default switch statement

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6219 Type safe mem_zero function (fixes #5228)

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #3442 Extending game.png

@Robyt3 do you want to review https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6885 or can I do a cursory review and a test and merge it?

Zoomable envelope editor by Marmare314 · Pull Request #6885 · ddnet...

This should make adjusting envelopes with many close envpoints easier. At this point it is only a proof of concept, I just want to make sure that this is a wanted feature. Remove autscroll for n...

Looks good to me, @marmare_314 will probably want to squash the commits

alright

20:30

then I'm done going through all the PRs

#5690 should also be closed?

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5690

Replace mem family function with typesafe functions (fixes #5228) b...

This adds more type safety into the code. Generated code should be similar with no performance impacts. Fixes #5228. I kept mem_zero and mem_copy on default language type. Reference: https://en.cpp...

I missed one

20:32

not sure, let me look

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

9d2f431 Allow server to redirect clients - ChillerDragon e432dbb Merge pull request #6757 from ChillerDragon/pr_redirect - heinrich5991

20:45

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6757 Allow server to redirect clients

20:51

[ddnet:ddnet] 1 new commit

4f103d5 Revert "Allow server to redirect clients" - heinrich5991

1

20:51

[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: ddnet

Image attachment

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

4f103d5 Revert "Allow server to redirect clients" - heinrich5991

Mhh, I really should sit down and finish up my curl pr, it probably fixes all the problems people have with the updater

github is scolding me:

remote: Bypassed rule violations for refs/heads/master:
remote: 
remote: - Changes must be made through the merge queue
remote: 
remote: - 10 of 10 required status checks have not succeeded: .
remote:

hi i want make my own client

20:58

how i need follow a roadmap

here we go again

try compiling the existing client

20:59

are you on windows?

yep

heinrich5991

try compiling the existing client

im still playing game at my own file of game

21:00

its not steam

@Ryozuki windows, can't compile, no cpp knowledge

2

how you know im not knowledge abt cpp

21:00

ye you re right but i dont say this

no no i dont mean you directly

21:01

it's an internal joke

have you downloaded microsoft visual studio?

im into programming for a 3-4 months

Jupstar ✪

@Ryozuki windows, can't compile, no cpp knowledge

NekoDrink

i know html css js php and mysql

what do u want ur client to do?

21:02

automate something?

sus

Ryozuki

automate something?

i dont understand this

dont blow it yet chillee

srry my english re bad

Robyt3

Looks good to me, @marmare_314 will probably want to squash the commits

I mean I wouldn't say I want to, since its always a bit nerve wrecking, but I did

chillerdragon: can you re-open a PR with your change?

I saw

21:03

But I mobile

21:03

I’ll do soon

marmare_314

I mean I wouldn't say I want to, since its always a bit nerve wrecking, but I did

you can always get your old changes back (during the rebase with conflicts using git rebase --abort, or after the rebase with the help of git reflog)

Ryozuki

what do u want ur client to do?

i make game more cuter with my client so its not abt add new extension or something

chillerdragon: cool

Are you talking to me? (@heinrich5991)

you can always get your old changes back (during the rebase with conflicts using git rebase --abort, or after the rebase with the help of git reflog) (@marmare_314)

chillerdragon: no, to @marmare_314. don't you see quotes on matrix?

Not on iOS :D

weird…

I stopped questioning Element bugs

it should be supported on ios according to their bug tracker…

heinrich5991

you can always get your old changes back (during the rebase with conflicts using git rebase --abort, or after the rebase with the help of git reflog)

reflog is only useful if you know what youre doing in the first place

You could also create a new temporary branch before your rebase so you can hard-reset your real branch if you mess up, so you don't need to read through the reflog

or use origin/branchname to reset it to the old state

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before force-pushing

I always like doing interactive rebases, rebase -i is very useful

The most annoying part about it is that it always takes me more time and effort than I am willing to admit to do these simple things with git

c++
// Number of CFonts is low (5-10)
// Number of ints is high (number of unicode codepoints)
// sizeof(SFontSizeChar) is roughly 48
std::unordered_map<int, std::unordered_map<CFont *, SFontSizeChar>> m_Chars1;
std::unordered_map<CFont *, std::unordered_map<int, SFontSizeChar>> m_Chars2;
std::unordered_map<std::tuple<CFont *, int>, SFontSizeChar> m_Chars3;

Which one is the best?

my intuition says "the third one"

21:19

or the second one

21:19

but not the first one

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because in the first one, you'll have tons of std::unordered_maps lying around

true, and most of the inner maps would only contain very few entries, as most chars have only one or a few different representations in all fonts

[ddnet:pr_ddnet_loglevels] 2 new commits

85566fb Add separate log levels for each output - heinrich5991 225bd89 Make default server start a little less noisy - heinrich5991

21:25

[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: pr_ddnet_loglevels

Road to 0 prs

@heinrich5991 How do I avoid the copy? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6874#discussion_r1272719237 First append the newline to the member variable string and then return the member variable so it can be moved?

Port JSON writer from upstream, improve testing by Robyt3 · Pull Re...

Port the CJsonWriter utility class from upstream, which makes outputting correct JSON easier. Add CJsonWriter as an abstract class that can write to different outputs. Two implementations CJsonFile...

Robyt3

@heinrich5991 How do I avoid the copy? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6874#discussion_r1272719237 First append the newline to the member variable string and then return the member variable so it can be moved?

probably first check whether there's a newline. if not, append one. yes. return type would need to be adjusted as well

1

github-merge-queue[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

d411052 implement zoom and drag in envelope editor - Marmare314 de3b2b1 Merge pull request #6885 from Marmare314/envelope_zoom - Robyt3

21:46

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6885 Zoomable envelope editor

2 ideas :

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1 - Add a search bar in the Players Tab

Astramast

1 - Add a search bar in the Players Tab

what's your use case for this?

2 - Add a queue system for full servers : When server full and someone attempt to connect, he gets a number, that number gets +1. When someone disconnects server sends a ping back to all ppl that tried to connect. If they still are trying to connect, n°1 gets connected, the others get their number -1. If someone is no longer trying to connect, -1 to all the next ones

22:26

something like this idk maybe the method i described make servers burn (edited)

Astramast

2 - Add a queue system for full servers : When server full and someone attempt to connect, he gets a number, that number gets +1. When someone disconnects server sends a ping back to all ppl that tried to connect. If they still are trying to connect, n°1 gets connected, the others get their number -1. If someone is no longer trying to connect, -1 to all the next ones

this has an open issue: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3453#issuecomment-1638880126

queue system when server is full · Issue #3453 · ddnet/ddnet

when joining a full server, you're obviously disconnected due to the server being full. the message says "reconnecting in 0 seconds" and automatically reconnects a bunch of times, whi...

heinrich5991

what's your use case for this?

theres 64 players in the Players tab i'm searching for a specific one i know his name

22:27

like... it's a Search bar

22:27

why do we have a search bar for servers

why wouldn't we??

22:28

"let's go fng" -> types fng -> wins

we could even have the same system as in server browser, where u could sort players by muted, emote muted, or friends

Ewan

why wouldn't we??

exactly

22:28

so lets get it for Players tab too :D

Astramast

exactly

because it takes time to implement and might clutter the UI if we don't need it

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #264 New Map Release Rule Post

22:29

[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits

c15e500 New Map release rule - murpii 045d29d Merge pull request #264 from murpii/master - def-

Astramast

so lets get it for Players tab too :D

why? you can search a player name in the server searchbar

heinrich5991

because it takes time to implement and might clutter the UI if we don't need it

won't clutter

Image attachment

Ewan

why? you can search a player name in the server searchbar

to mute rapidly

22:31

do we have a /mute cmd btw ?

f1 mute

ah ok ok

22:31

~~Idea 3 : Add a /mute <Player> cmd. Unmute if the player is already muted~~ (edited)

why

22:32

f1 mute

since it's client-side, it has to be in the console

heinrich5991

since it's client-side, it has to be in the console

understandable

heinrich5991

since it's client-side, it has to be in the console

Or we can make the ugliest hack known to mankind. Intercept slash commands on the client BigBrain

BigBrain

seems pointless

Learath2

Or we can make the ugliest hack known to mankind. Intercept slash commands on the client BigBrain

BigBrain

I did not dare say this out loud

Ewan

seems pointless

It is very very pointless

not entirely

Slightly easier to use?

how does the mute command work in the console? we don't complete player names in the local console yet, do we?

Nope, we don't complete them anywhere

we complete them in chat

Ah, yep that would help

ႇႀႂႅႀႂ

22:37

anyone with support for this font can screenshot what this looks like? (edited)

22:37

I only see boxes

Image attachment

22:39

Our text renderer iirc can't handle this

I got a file with this filename

22:40

I wanted to see whether it's some fancy emoji

hm

but I don't see it

I wonder if it's a different encoding

it was xml-escaped in the file name

22:42

I guess it's not

22:42

the original filename was пикник-0003.jpg (edited)

Lol

thanks @DDNet

22:45

Content-Disposition: inline; filename="=?iso-8859-1?Q?&#1087;&#1080;&#1082;&#1085;&#1080;&#1082;-0003.jpg?="
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="=?iso-8859-1?Q?&#1087;&#1080;&#1082;&#1085;&#1080;&#1082;-0003.jpg?="

xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6912 Execute CFGFLAG_GAME configs from map load on the client

Fixes #6774

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[x] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddne...

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