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I love grandma
06:06
It's the best map ever
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i love multeasy
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I like Trains
06:08
Choo choo
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Im starting to think ddnet general chat is really far less cultured compred to offtopic
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@Overlord its cuz im here with the anime memes
10:08
monkalaugh
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Possible, or they simply bullshit a lot over there
10:16
@Ryozuki recently i decided to stop reading manga at work and watching memes but to do something productive
10:17
Ever since then i either have actual work to do or simply have headache but to stay "stronk" i neither watch memes nor do productive stuff
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@Learath2
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@Ryozuki Q: Who do you think will win the spanish elections? Who will you support?
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Learath2
@Ryozuki Q: Who do you think will win the spanish elections? Who will you support?
i think psoe or pp, i will support no one
15:32
ill vote this actually https://escanos.org/
Escaños en Blanco para dejar Escaños Vacíos, es una herramienta política para expresar disconformidad. En otro plano constituye una plataforma ciudadana apolítica para mejorar la política.
15:32
an actually represented blank vote
15:33
nobody represents my values, and i dont believe in the lesser evil thingy (edited)
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Ryozuki
an actually represented blank vote
Something like Sinn Fein? Like representatives that refuse to vote?
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Learath2
Something like Sinn Fein? Like representatives that refuse to vote?
representatives that dont even go to their seat, but "occupy" it
15:34
if u do a real blank vote, its % goes to the biggest party due to maths
15:34
it doesnt have an actual representation
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i think thats rly stupid and ur just throwing your vote away (edited)
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Ryozuki
representatives that dont even go to their seat, but "occupy" it
they also refuse the salary
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ScReeNy
i think thats rly stupid and ur just throwing your vote away (edited)
thats the lesser evil thing i dont believe in
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You will never find a party completely representing you tho
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ScReeNy
You will never find a party completely representing you tho
its ok
15:36
it just shows this system fails me
15:36
and im voting something that represents that
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maybe im biased but all protest voters in germany are made tools by nazis
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idk whats that
15:37
this is a proper party
15:37
they simply use their right to not go to the seat if elected
15:37
and refuse the salary
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But dont you think you are throwing your right to politically argue away?
15:38
thats also a rly dumb argument
15:38
made by politicians to say that those against how things work actually have no right to argue
15:39
its ridiculous
15:39
Liquid democracy is a form of delegative democracy, whereby an electorate engages in collective decision-making through direct participation and dynamic representation. This democratic system utilizes elements of both direct and representative democracy. Voters in a liquid democracy have the right to vote directly on all policy issues à la direc...
15:39
im not any sort of nazi
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well but this is light years away from realistic politics
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i dont care
15:39
most stuff is light years away by realistic politics
15:40
even what the politicians themselves say they will do
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Thats no fair comparision
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you cant claim most political questions are as far away as a political revolution xd (edited)
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ScReeNy
But dont you think you are throwing your right to politically argue away?
this is rly bad thinking btw
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Why should i take you complaining about issues seriously if you dont even vote against it while u had the chance
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but i did?
15:42
not voting or voting blank is a form of voting itself
15:42
also you taking any complaining is kind of no value?
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blank voting isnt just supporting the biggest party in decisions
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blank voting for me is not having found anyone i agree with and feel represented
15:43
and that should have a representation itself
15:43
but the system makes it invisible
15:43
it would be funny cuz if it counted half the seats would probs be empty
15:43
and it would show a problem we have in the society
15:43
but we simply make it invisible
15:44
politicians rly implanted this view of blank voting being the worst u can do
15:44
they rly made it effective
15:48
My point is that people who are interested in politics and have diverse opinions are generally unable to find a party supporting them completely or mostly. Is that a bit problematic? sure. But do you really want to put your vote into changing a political system, which is incredible unrealistic? By putting this over all your other political points, they are just rendered unrepresented. (edited)
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i think its unrealistic to think ur vote will also be "useful", and no i dont find that much unrealistic
15:51
my primary interest is to change the system altogether
15:51
and i dont have any party i agree with
15:51
it makes most sense to do this for me
15:51
The paradox of voting, also called Downs' paradox, is that for a rational, self-interested voter, the costs of voting will normally exceed the expected benefits. Because the chance of exercising the pivotal vote is minuscule compared to any realistic estimate of the private individual benefits of the different possible outcomes, the expected be...
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Ryozuki
this exists cuz ppl make it difficult to vote
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i think thats only a problem in america
16:53
in europe its extremely easy to vote
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if politicians rly cared about democracy then they could easily make a national voting holiday
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u dont have to do anything or sign up anywhere
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yes, it is a problem in murica
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@louis its not even holiday on when u vote right?
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well its more of the physical time and travel here
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here voting is always done on sundays and everybody is exempt from working
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i dont think there is voter exemption on a national level
16:55
but probably in some states and individual companies
16:55
anyways thats why our country is run by old raisins since mostly old retired ppl have the means to go and vote
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louis
if politicians rly cared about democracy then they could easily make a national voting holiday
that's why elections take place on sunday in France
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But U can also vote by mail @louis to avoid those long queues
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What do you guys think about hytale?
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what's that?
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A game
21:59
I am still waiting
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no way its from 2018 already, time flies (edited)
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glorified roblox ngl
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