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how should I ping a mod if the bot deletes all mod pings outside of #reports, I don't really see the point of that

Tater

how should I ping a mod if the bot deletes all mod pings outside of #reports, I don't really see the point of that

I guess you should to ping '@Discord Mod'

02:12

Oops

I think that only includes heinrich

Tater

I think that only includes heinrich

Murpi also

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@-StormAx yo brother, can u disable this freakin webhook?

Well i cant

02:17

Is theres a way to disable it? @heinrich5991

sry chiller i think u will have to use the furrycord if u want to talk in here for a min xd

Furrycord XD

u shut off the bridge right

Btw how to use this bridge?@Ewan

02:32

Just curious

-StormAx

Btw how to use this bridge?@Ewan

log into the ddnet channel on quakenet

Already

03:16

Get it;p

unfortunately not

03:16

webhook disabled yet?

GitHub

Click to see attachment 🖼️

damn, this would have been a funny troll for a pulsar map

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

a8e2e61 M Binary, M Against the Current, M Cavings I, M Green Race, M Lygerastia, M Try Again, M Wonderland, A Sunny Night - ddnet-maps

Yea the bridge getting renamed from bridge to bridge_ broke all my tools xd (@Tater)

wtf is this? (<@749222324980416602_chillerbot2>)

note: glibc is special and cant use mold!

06:07

checking for ld.mold... ld.mold
checking version of ld.mold... v. ?.??, bad
checking for gnumake... no
checking for gmake... gmake
checking version of gmake... 4.4.1, ok
checking for gnumsgfmt... no
checking for gmsgfmt... gmsgfmt
checking version of gmsgfmt... 0.21.1, ok
checking for makeinfo... /dev/null
checking version of /dev/null... v. ?.??, bad

06:07

wtf does it mean checking version of dev null xdd

lmfao

06:10

i use mold with mingw and it works fine

06:10

libc is obv pretty different

06:10

but still libgcc/glibc based

06:11

i also kinda doubt that because the majority of linuxes use glibc and mold was made on/for that kind of environment

https://bugs.gentoo.org/860900

Ewan

i also kinda doubt that because the majority of linuxes use glibc and mold was made on/for that kind of environment

i mean compiling glibc itself

06:13

its kind of special cuz t hey use ancient build system probs xd

06:13

so far on gentoo only 2 packages fail according to the wiki so im good

06:13

Known packages to fail sys-app/sandbox (bug #830748) sys-libs/glibc (bug #860900)

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8

Update ddracechat.cpp by xPapla · Pull Request #8 · ddnet/ddnet

:D

06:13

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/8

Update ddracechat.cpp by xPapla · Pull Request #8 · ddnet/ddnet

:D

chiller remove ur bot omg

Ryozuki

its kind of special cuz t hey use ancient build system probs xd

oic

@Ewan did u leanr rust yet

06:23

u gotta catch up to the future

aaa

growing old in tech is bad

06:23

and ur young

no i had interview for cpp 2 hrs ago

06:23

agenda is booked

xd

i will rust soon

Im on da phone fix bridge name or wait for me to turn on pc

why u dont have full fledged terminal on phone

06:33

fake chiller

because phones suck

no shell no life

i used it back in school

06:37

still got ptsd from it

<ChillerDragon> !ping

pong

<ChillerDragon> #420

#69

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6

Crash · Issue #6 · ddnet/ddnet

2 Crash today . I don't know why but I was in monster server when client give crash.i am talking about 4.7.2 version.

ez

06:41

wait 9 missing

06:41

omagawd xd

06:43

#69

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/#69

Issues · ddnet/ddnet

DDraceNetwork, a free cooperative platformer game. Contribute to ddnet/ddnet development by creating an account on GitHub.

thats also bad xd

<Jupstar> high quality bot

ineed a focus for rust i think

07:33

nothing i do needs or rly even allows rust

07:33

even when i make simple cli tools they’re usually as a frontend for a library or smth

07:33

in c

<Jupstar> just take any c, go or whatever library and make it blazingly fast and safe

07:34

<Jupstar> then post the lib in rust sub reddit. and get fame

sounds like wasted time

07:36

tool already exists

<Jupstar> you dont understand how rust community works

ewan you dont understand... if its not in rust.... its not real code....

I don’t want to get in the ‘community’ i just want to get fluent in the language

07:36

fuck the community

1

07:36

crazy pol

07:36

*ppl

<Jupstar> wow @Voxel was the underscore in your name actually needed?

07:37

<Jupstar> is there a second voxeldoesart?

yes

<Jupstar> unlucky

blame discord

i wish i could get ewan

<Jupstar> add him as friend and destroy him

i could have on my original account

07:37

but banned

07:37

zzz

i did and they're cool !

07:39

anyways rust i have no reason to learn it

you’re also not looking for a low level code job

yeah i had to learn cpp to make dumb updates to this game

07:39

theres nothing fun in rust

<Jupstar> have u even used it for at least 1 week yet? XD

07:40

<Jupstar> or are u simply mad at ryozuki

no i tried it well "tried" because coding hello world programs are zzzzzzzzzzz

07:41

snrrrk mimimimi

Voxel

theres nothing fun in rust

try to play with generics

wtf is a generic

https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ch10-00-generics.html

Generic Types, Traits, and Lifetimes - The Rust Programming Language

<Jupstar> hello world, wow... i'd say hello word in rust is actually similar to any language

07:45

<Jupstar> world

jupjopjap

<Jupstar> println! is a macro, thats the only difference

crazy

<Jupstar> @gerdoe hi, wazzup

im doin good

<Jupstar> great

playing around with shared libs in rust

07:46

and you?

<Jupstar> i am supposed to work, and also do it here and there ðŸ˜‚

gerdoe

https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/ch10-00-generics.html

i know how to do that in javascript troll

troll

Voxel

i know how to do that in javascript troll

troll

good for u

<Jupstar> @gerdoe why do u want shared lib?

plugin system for libtw2 server implementation

07:49

just handling client events

<Jupstar> why dont u use wasmer

like connect packet receiving disconnect and so on

07:50

thought to pick rhai but want to try this pathway xd

whats libtw2 gonna do

<Jupstar> i mean its fine, and fastest.. just not safe :D

yeah no sandboxing

07:51

if i meant to make kind of sandbox i would pick rhai from the start

<Jupstar> @Voxel its basically teeworlds stuff written in rust by heinrich

wow

<Jupstar> network code, some game stuff

07:51

<Jupstar> @Voxel tbf it exists since years

07:51

<Jupstar> its not new

also can't update arrayvec crate

07:52

cuz no buffer crate that supports new arrayvec

<Jupstar> tinyvec also has a array like vec

actually there's no need to but looking at <[u8; 1024]> is kinda meh

jopsti wat u work

<Jupstar> i work time waste

ws-client1

<Jupstar> tinyvec also has a array like vec

yeah but afair buffer crate that heinrich used has nothing to do with any crate but arrayvec

i can see

lemme check tho

u know cpp but don’t know generics? do u know it?

<Jupstar> @gerdoe you could kindly ask heinrich if u could replace it. What does the buffer crate even do? :D

Ewan

nothing i do needs or rly even allows rust

this makes no sense, anything u do in c++ is better in rust

Ewan

even when i make simple cli tools they’re usually as a frontend for a library or smth

clap in rust and u have a super powered cli frontend, it even makes man pages and autocompletion for u

Ewan

u know cpp but don’t know generics? do u know it?

didnt know it was called that

ws-client1

<Jupstar> @gerdoe you could kindly ask heinrich if u could replace it. What does the buffer crate even do? :D

buffer crate offers buffer interface without need to think about underlying things

07:54

like arrayvec

Ewan

fuck the community

????????

<Jupstar> well templates in cpp are bit different anyway

07:55

<Jupstar> they are more like macros, but also not quite

incoming heinrich ping!!!!!!!!!!!

<Jupstar> its not really comparable

@Voxel the rust community is probs one of the best to get into a programming language, i never seen someone not being supportive of another learning rust

Ewan

crazy pol

no, passionate

still no "no macros" generic key-value structs in cpp troll

troll

07:55

waiting for c++23

07:55

std::reflect goes brr

Embedded image

07:56

my client doesnt feel so good

Ryozuki

@Voxel the rust community is probs one of the best to get into a programming language, i never seen someone not being supportive of another learning rust

i swear the rust community needs to be studied under a microscope. half of their brain consists of buzzwords to describe milquetoast coding peojects

ChillerDragon

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wtf chiller

Ryozuki

@Voxel the rust community is probs one of the best to get into a programming language, i never seen someone not being supportive of another learning rust

not that but well documented language does it

idk wat happend there

Voxel

i swear the rust community needs to be studied under a microscope. half of their brain consists of buzzwords to describe milquetoast coding peojects

try out

ws-client1

<Jupstar> tinyvec also has a array like vec

tinyvec is a safe impl of smallvec, but it requires u to impl Default

Voxel

i swear the rust community needs to be studied under a microscope. half of their brain consists of buzzwords to describe milquetoast coding peojects

no, ur just ignorant

07:57

and this blind hate u have is sad

https://crates.io/crates/buffer + https://crates.io/crates/arrayvec

gerdoe

try out

i tried rust like- three times. i have nothing to make that will incluence me that i dont already have

Voxel

i tried rust like- three times. i have nothing to make that will incluence me that i dont already have

try cpp then

voxel

07:58

u dont know much about programming

07:58

its normal to not understand what makes it good

07:58

you also dont know much c or c++

07:59

its bad to judge something with lack of xp

07:59

i think u just have some weird view of rust cuz i meme a lot about it

<Jupstar> @Voxel i dont want to convince you, but you should see rust from 2 perspectives: You have idiomatic rust.. its as easy as most languages: you spam Arc, Rc everywhere, and dont need to do any memory management, u use copy and clone everywhere, and have useless copies everywhere, like javascript

Ryozuki

i think u just have some weird view of rust cuz i meme a lot about it

its not just you* (edited)

<Jupstar> or u do everything carefully and have blazingly fast code XDD

gerdoe

https://crates.io/crates/buffer + https://crates.io/crates/arrayvec

i think you can make impls for these traits for brand new arrayvec but i want to do funny stuff in tw not in rust xd

idiomatic rust doesnt spam rc arc tho

08:00

just use it where needed

<Jupstar> i meant, u can use it, basically like a managed language

never used rc troll

troll

Voxel

its not just you* (edited)

dont judge a tool by its community anyway, judge it by its potential and opportunities, fixes, improvements, etc

08:01

but the community is great

08:01

lot of highly skilled devs

08:01

that want to do things correctly

Voxel

its not just you* (edited)

if you belive that community=language try to do anything with haskell troll

troll

Ryozuki

dont judge a tool by its community anyway, judge it by its potential and opportunities, fixes, improvements, etc

ryoz i should admit that i pretty much base a lot of things off of the community

gerdoe

if you belive that community=language try to do anything with haskell troll

troll

oh no

Ryozuki

this makes no sense, anything u do in c++ is better in rust

c calls?

u can do c calls?

Ryozuki

????????

Ryozuki

u can do c calls?

safely?

<Jupstar> @Voxel if u want to like rust, try to use derive macros. they implement traits and remove lot of complexity. this is defs not as ez in cpp

@Ewan this proves u dont know rust

08:02

by saying that

Yea, I don’t know rust

08:02

I never claimed to

so this discussion is pointless

less boilerplate in code is god's gift

❓

Ewan

safely?

i meant saying this

08:03

https://doc.rust-lang.org/nomicon/ffi.html

FFI - The Rustonomicon

The Dark Arts of Advanced and Unsafe Rust Programming

god i am so tired

i am tired of bickering over pointless stuff

troll

2

yeah im tired and sad of ignorance

08:05

life is constant tiredness

08:05

and now i have to go to work

its. its literally 4 am for me

i like to think I’m not ignorant but honestly i have other focuses and my desire to learn rust can not be fulfilled because however many hours of the day it takes are already occupied

Voxel

its. its literally 4 am for me

how can u stay so late

<Jupstar> ok ok chill xdd. Rust isnt perfect, and imo it is missing lot of QOL. But it's defs interesting. Even if you will dislike the language, it's defs worth to learn it for a few weeks

and on middle of week

Ewan

i like to think I’m not ignorant but honestly i have other focuses and my desire to learn rust can not be fulfilled because however many hours of the day it takes are already occupied

ok tha makes more sense

08:06

that*

Ryozuki

how can u stay so late

with the power of depression

eh

or smth

i think depression is not that related to not sleeping, in fact sleeping is a nice way to skip time and forget for brief moments

08:07

altho when i go to sleep i think about life

most therapists and psychiatrists would say otherwise

i see

08:07

im no expert

id rather be awake at night than in the morning

Rust made me a worse CPP dev lol

lol

summer heat makes me wanna stay up at night too

08:07

its insane

Jupstar ✪

Rust made me a worse CPP dev lol

lol

wat kek

In rust u can cast types implicitly. And in ddnet code we have no check for it

make one

u have to cast types implicitly*

So I thought if it compiles it works xd

explicitly

08:08

*

08:08

wrong word lol

<Jupstar> oh yeah

08:08

<Jupstar> wanted to say cant

ah

08:09

the strict provenance nightly feature is nice i think

<Jupstar> so its not rust fault, but our cpp compile flags :D

fix the flags

<Jupstar> but i defs didnt think about it :D

https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.pointer.html#method.with_addr

Image attachment

Raw, unsafe pointers, *const T, and *mut T.

justatest

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<Jupstar> @Voxel do you like javascript?

ws-client1

<Jupstar> @Voxel do you like javascript?

yes but only because its directly tied to adobe animate's macro thing

08:11

idk i like abusing the program to make overly complex stuff i made a 3d cube in it with xyz rotations

<Jupstar> i see, i'd say its easier to write js like code with rust than cpp :D u have a powerful async runtime, and the standard makes it ez to manage lifetimes.. cargo is bascically like npm. so ez to add libs

thats a bit far fetched xd

<Jupstar> psst

if A N Y T H I N G i would try and make something ddnet related

08:12

like an automapper thing

<Jupstar> good opinion

one that wont be abandoned

<Jupstar> ddnet first

08:13

<Jupstar> america second

i wanted to make a parser and editor of config files but idk if its useful

<Jupstar> germany third

like have you heard of r++

with a LR(1) parser

it uses code to make rly complex automappers

a e s t h e t i c

08:14

i w i l l w r i t e l i k e t h i s f r o m n o w o n

<Jupstar> epic

it says owo there

owo

OwO

weebs

08:14

(im not)

uwu

fur

ryowo

ryuwuki

Voxel

uwu

make anime pfp with drawing skills

Ryozuki

a e s t h e t i c

i have a quirky way of typing

gerdoe

ryuwuki

justatest

<Jupstar> @Voxel make ddnet logo

ddnet logo isnt broken

<Jupstar> make next gen logo, for me

hmfgh ddnet 2.0 logo

08:16

remind me

<Jupstar> yes

wiki logo is rly nice

08:16

wiki

<Jupstar> our moto: "The game YOU deserve"

08:17

<Jupstar> true

so like if we ever start 2.0 where would we start

(made in rust (soon tm))

<Jupstar> wiki logo is the best we have yet

Voxel

so like if we ever start 2.0 where would we start

it will never start xd

08:17

pipe dreams

but like if we did whatd be the first step?

<Jupstar> u ask that ryozuki? XD

08:18

<Jupstar> drop cpp

08:18

<Jupstar> u ask me?

08:18

<Jupstar> python

justatest

2

08:18

<Jupstar> eliminate python

kek

1

08:18

<Jupstar> xd

i guess i can provide like concept art and then beg on my hands and knees for ravie to make it look better

<Jupstar> is ravie your mentor?

jupjopsti waitin for your rusty tw client build to test with libtw2 xd

remove all back compat monkey patches, rethink the map format with future proof in mind, rethink the protocol with future proof and modding in mind, use rust, use quic (?), adopt 0.7 style skins (but keep 0.6 body proportions), make max players dynamic and not fixed, opt in accounts with achievements, etc, rethink the database structure using partitioned tables, etc

<Jupstar> i thought u the compition

08:19

<Jupstar> to him

08:19

<Jupstar> @Ryozuki omg good opinion

concepts first

id be fine with rust code if it was like for the server stuff

and add a suggestion on the left lower corner to switch to linux for better fps

down for me?

08:20

https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc

<Jupstar> @gerdoe so or so, my client will not be compatible with libtw2

sure i mean i want to test libtw2 server with rustw

<Jupstar> i completely wrote most stuff from scratch

twrust

btw, some people want even stricter accounts for ddnet

Voxel

id be fine with rust code if it was like for the server stuff

rust code fits both client and server, the safer concurrency it has makes some stuff easier

than the one kog announced

Ryozuki

and add a suggestion on the left lower corner to switch to linux for better fps

or better: have the ddnet be the os and have it use 100% of the resources

in rust we trust

t

<Jupstar> @heinrich5991 pls dont kill teeworlds for me xd, i just want to play

t

<Jupstar> no accounts

08:22

<Jupstar> no nothing

yeah literally my bio quote xd

<Jupstar> just start, have fun

I want to have seamless accounts

08:23

i.e. just start

08:23

have fun

08:23

but other people want to have stuff like verified email or steam account

cant that part be opt in

08:23

afterwards

I'd be in favor of that

client makes a account if u dont have in the bg, you can later request to change the username to something u identify with more if u want

08:24

and link to social accounts (steam, discord)

yea, that'd be my vision

hey heinrich can you check this stuff in free time :> https://github.com/heinrich5991/libtw2/pull/79

do u have a windows server?

I had a brief look at it already and I didn't understand why it's correct

Ryozuki

do u have a windows server?

im testing mostly on my pc

on one of my first internships i had a company who used windows server 2008

it seems like it should change nothing

but it changes tho

yes

08:26

and that's why I'm reluctant to merge ^^

08:26

because I don't understand it yet

windows for some reason (maybe small buffer or another algo to pass with packets) doesn't get in time all packets to write

08:26

too many of them so windows blocks write

08:26

to wait other packets to go

08:26

idk why tho

yes, makes sense

08:27

but the wait you added waits for incoming or outgoing packets

you can try to spam packets with libtw2-server on windows with this patch and without

08:27

also on linux

i.e. it might return when there are new packets that arrived

there was no problem on linux btw

but not when you could send new ones

08:30

I guess it works because there are usually no packets arriving when it waits for the socket to become ready for writing

needs to be tested then

08:30

i can't grant any behaviour

heinrich5991

but other people want to have stuff like verified email or steam account

All fine with me. But effectively I cannot play gores starting tomorrow anymore. Some newcomers servers will have no accounts. I know ur opinion is, that gores should stay with kog. But i hope u have the empathy that it's basically as if i would add forced accounts to ddnet tomorrow, go closed source and handle all account stuff over the insecure protocol ddnet has right now

also what do you think about non-sandboxed plugin system for current server implementation?

why is verified email or steam for ddnet fine for you, but not when kog does it?

08:34

I really don't lke verified email/steam requirement for ddnet

08:35

hmm. I don't like the fact that you have to register either for ddnet nor for kog

heinrich5991

why is verified email or steam for ddnet fine for you, but not when kog does it?

I meant optional accounts are fine

08:36

Or hidden

08:36

It was a reply to your monolog

ah

Cant we have a blockchain for ranks troll

troll

just random non-serious thought.

blockchain for ranks would be pog ngl

<Jupstar> I KNEW IT XDDD

08:54

<Jupstar> i just waited for it

undeletable cheated ranks axaxax

<Jupstar> lmao

08:54

<Jupstar> chillerdragon pls read #off-topic

ok sec

08:55

@heinrich5991 pls bridge offtopic

08:55

or u mean webchat?

<Jupstar> weebchat

aa

<Jupstar>

08:56

<ChillerDragon> lgtm

08:56

<Jupstar> now it works btw chiller

08:56

<ChillerDragon> watfak u did

08:56

<Jupstar> let me find

08:56

<Jupstar> there was so much talk here

chiller i updated teecity

08:57

try it

pog

08:57

multiplayer?

release build

08:57

camera moves with player xd

insane

ye

tech

08:58

when put in appstore?

pub fn player_camera(
    mut query_player: Query<(&mut AimTarget, &Transform), (With<Player>, Without<MainCamera>)>,
    mut query_camera: Query<&mut Transform, With<MainCamera>>,
) {
    let mut camera_transform = query_camera.single_mut();
    let (mut aim_target, player_transform) = query_player.single_mut();

    let old = camera_transform.translation;

    camera_transform.translation = Vec3::new(
        player_transform.translation.x,
        player_transform.translation.y,
        camera_transform.translation.z,
    );

    // Keep the aim same when camera is moving
    let diff = camera_transform.translation - old;

    if diff.length() > 0.0 {
        if let Some(t) = aim_target.0.as_mut() {
            *t += diff.xy();
        }
    }
}

08:58

idk if best way

08:58

but works

i only run apps from appstore these days

        .add_startup_system(general_setup)
        .add_startup_system(player::add_player)
        .add_systems((player::player_input, player::player_mouse).before(physics::move_system))
        .add_system(physics::move_system)
        .add_system(misc::aim_target_system.after(physics::move_system))
        .add_system(player::player_camera.after(misc::aim_target_system))

09:00

systems are poggers

09:00

so ez to define order

  def center_around_tee(tee)
    wc = WINDOW_WIDTH / 2
    hc = WINDOW_HEIGHT / 2
    x = -tee.x + wc
    y = -tee.y + hc
    Entitiy.new(x:, y:)
  end

09:00

ez center

xd

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/1123882299084259328

09:01

There ChillerDragon

09:01

<Jupstar> i am supposed to work, and also do it here and there ðŸ˜‚

<ChillerDragon> imagine sending discord link

I quoted

<ChillerDragon> weechat │11:01:19 bridge_ | <Jupstar ✪> <Jupstar> i am supposed to work, and also do it here and there ðŸ˜‚ │@heinrich5991

09:01

<ChillerDragon> ops i pingered heinrich

09:01

<Jupstar> i am supposed to work, and also do it here and there ðŸ˜‚

09:02

<Jupstar> lel

09:02

<Jupstar> indeed broken

09:02

<Jupstar> when i type same sentence again

09:02

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1688029335.png

Embedded image

09:02

<ChillerDragon> discord issue

09:02

<Jupstar> xd

09:02

<Jupstar> ok i go work now, it reminded me XD, bye

09:02

<ChillerDragon> wot

09:02

<ChillerDragon> jopsti workin?

09:03

<Jupstar> slavery

<ChillerDragon> heinrich having fun

seems like an issue not of discord and not of the bridge (edited)

<ChillerDragon> yes its a jupsti issue

09:04

<ChillerDragon>

09:04

<ChillerDragon> works for me

It's also only in that sentence

09:09

Maybe u cut the utf8 weirdly

I?

09:10

it arrived fine on irc

09:10

also omg debian12 broke my touchpad in ddnet

09:10

I use debian BTW

09:11

HOLY SHIT FUCK YEAH I FINALLY FIXED 0.7 MAP DOWNLOAD

09:12

:party:

<ChillerDragon> poggers2

poggers2

09:12

<ChillerDragon> poggers2

poggers2

tf

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it says 'rust'

so much money its scary

take it

he also has a crab emote kek

<Jupstar> there is a reason ppl say "no blockchain jobs"

why

09:15

wat the reason

<Jupstar> trollodragores

what if u yield to devil grab that salary money and retire in 2 years

<Jupstar> why am i here again wtf

09:16

<Jupstar> social media kicks

09:16

<ChillerDragon> and then you use blockchain knowledge to replace fakin mariadb with blockchain for ddnet

09:16

<ChillerDragon> axaxax jopsti addicted to weebchat

09:16

<ChillerDragon> i feel u

i tried to replace with postgres but syntax is too different and the impl is built around specific string formatting

<ChillerDragon> ima add some health banner that pops up every 30min to remind you to do breaks from the internet

@Robyt3 roooobi when 0.7 maps i finally am ready to download some pog custom vanilla ctf maps

09:18

jopsti cant wait for 0.7 ddnet client too

0.7 doesnt have vulkan right

<Jupstar> ChillerDragon: i can certainly imagine 0.7 protocol is better than 0.6. if we drop all old client support and go to 0.7 its not worse than now. but at that point a full upgrade would be more logical

ye we slowly phase out 0.6

<Jupstar> just give me 20 more years

ddnet 0.7 truly stable already

<Jupstar> then i finished best client ever

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<Jupstar> dont waste ur time on it

09:22

<Jupstar> your only supporter is heinrich xD

he big wig

<Jupstar> rest of devs wants to drop backward compability

ez 2v10

09:23

in fact

09:23

i also want to drop backward comp

09:23

to 0.6

<Jupstar> xd

no go back to work

09:23

or i tell ur employer

<Jupstar> yeah pls tell him xd

or do like me

09:24

quit job

09:24

to focus on 0.7

<Jupstar> good idea

09:25

<Jupstar> i worked hard last week, when i was banned from social media

09:25

<Jupstar> now i can chill

09:25

<Jupstar> xd

chiller did u drop ur java job

https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Hpp/blob/main/vulkan/vulkan.cppm

Vulkan-Hpp/vulkan/vulkan.cppm at main · KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Hpp

Open-Source Vulkan C++ API. Contribute to KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Hpp development by creating an account on GitHub.

09:37

@Jupstar ✪ vulkan hpp c++20 module

<Jupstar> epic, but useless, who uses cpp

true

wot jopsti banned

09:40

my java job? :D

09:41

i ever disclose having a java job

09:41

yea no i did not quit my job :D

<Jupstar> chiller yeah, irc logs the truth luckely

yikes

09:47

i regret grepping the logs

09:47

teeworlds/2021-12-14.log:4:21:17 < bridge> [teeworlds] <chillerdragon> Sometimes I wish teeworlds wasn’t written in Java

09:47

watafak i wrote there

Xd

xdd

09:53

chiller u disclosed to me

09:53

lots of years ago

09:53

here i think

09:54

anyway i just know ur a javaer

<Jupstar> chillerdragon is professional programmer? epic

09:55

<Jupstar> i always thought he manages networks or smth like that

im not a professional anything xd

ws-client1

<Jupstar> lmao

You could mark them maybe. As cheated… and ignore them.

ChillerDragon

undeletable cheated ranks axaxax

Answering this

ChillerDragon

@Robyt3 roooobi when 0.7 maps i finally am ready to download some pog custom vanilla ctf maps

The PR is mostly waiting for a review from heinrich

@heinrich5991

11:08

i think heinrich waits for u

ChillerDragon

ddnet 0.7 truly stable already

pls allow 0.7 to die

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troll

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heinrich5991

btw, some people want even stricter accounts for ddnet

Yes, I want a blood sample for registration

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ChillerDragon

Click to see attachment 🖼️

yo thx

Or verified home address so I can ship you a grenade when you get banned

Ryozuki

@Voxel the rust community is probs one of the best to get into a programming language, i never seen someone not being supportive of another learning rust

rust community member pov: rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust, rewrite it in Rust

12:00

literally not

12:00

thats just a meme

12:01

but let people do what they want in their time

like rewriting it in rust

Ryozuki

thats just a meme

Let's be honest, it's no meme, and that's probably also good

xd

12:12

justatest

12:13

i mean look at ripgrep

12:13

they end up better

12:13

justatest

Learath2

Or verified home address so I can ship you a grenade when you get banned

That escalated quickly xD

Proprilicious joined the convo

13:07

Yo @Avolicious I was told some big bannings happend on kog. I’m interested on how you proof bot usage

13:09

Also did shiro really get life banned for server crashing?

@Avolicious also when bridge your discord to irc

chillerdragon

Also did shiro really get life banned for server crashing?

lul

hey where is that little thing rendered?

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<Jupstar> i guess hud.cpp

ye its pretty annoying. this thing only gets shown when the scoreboard is active anyways but it gets removed if cl_show_hud is 0.

14:27

cant seem to find it neither in hud.cpp nor in scoreboard.cpp

<Jupstar> id CHud::RenderLocalTime(float x)

14:31

<Jupstar> isnt that it?

Teero

hey where is that little thing rendered?

lol I also spent forever trying to find where this thing is. It is RenderLocalTIme

hi

ws-client1

<Jupstar> id CHud::RenderLocalTime(float x)

ah lol yes it is

14:34

was searching for %d:%d but it doesnt exist

14:34

but apparently its %H:%M xD

<Jupstar> hours minutes

weird time string magic

Can anyone help me?

<Jupstar> hamid not before u said what your problem is

hamid

Can anyone help me?

just ask your question. no one is gonna help you before we know your problem xD

I wanted to send Gmail to ddnet

<Jupstar> ? xD

Does ddnet have gmail?

<Jupstar> no

why do you want to send an email?

<Jupstar> just say what u want

I want to bring some problems to the ears of ddnet developers

<Jupstar> bro, just say it

the ddnet developers read this chat

We are Iranian players who love ddnet, but our client used to connect to your servers and we could play quite easily, but now our servers are filtered and we can't play. Can you help us??

<Jupstar> @heinrich5991 ^

14:42

<Jupstar> @hamid, when heinrich reads this he will ping you, but he is offline rn

There was some client that doesn't allow connecting to DDNet at all

14:43

not sure if thats the persian client though

<Jupstar> i think he means they are filtered in the master server list

14:43

<Jupstar> i guess

I found it very hard to rent, do you know when اثwill come?

14:43

I found it very hard to rent, do you know when hewill come?

<Jupstar> no, he pops up randomly

Our server name is ddnet persian

14:46

Can they make a server for us, just one server? We really need help

infranet moment

sendhelp

im awake

hello there

is github down

works fine for me

Voxel

is github down

very slow for me

18:01

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whole ms has barley any uptime these days

18:05

took me 20mins to install vscode this morning

github is indeed down pretty often

https://www.githubstatus.com/

Welcome to GitHub's home for real-time and historical data on system performance.

weird that a plattform that basically all devs in the world use, is so unstable

at least stackoverflow is up&running

Jupstar ✪

weird that a plattform that basically all devs in the world use, is so unstable

I don't think most devs use public github. There are many companies which won't use external dependencies, or host their own git/gitlab/github servers internally

18:09

Most devs also don't develop publicly visible stuff I guess, thus the skewed perception

deen

I don't think most devs use public github. There are many companies which won't use external dependencies, or host their own git/gitlab/github servers internally

i dunno, i doubt there is a single company that doesnt use open source projects

Using them in the sense of downloading a tarball once, building it in their own local build system and then hosting the binaries in their own binary distribution system

yeah using in any way

18:10

and be it just looking at issues

18:13

its rank 73 most visited site according to some weird website i found on google so one rank behind ddnet

imagine using github instead of ryos git hosting services that change every year

ryos git hosting is too good for us, its premium

but yea i can confirm what deen said at work we selfhost 99% of our code

yeah thats obvious xd

18:58

u also dont ask questions on stackoverflow.. u still use it

ChillerDragon

imagine using github instead of ryos git hosting services that change every year

my git has been there for over a year lol

more uptime than github

https://git.edgarluque.com/

19:00

yep

oma gad

19:00

u still working on ur game

19:00

epic

ye

19:01

today i added camera movement

19:01

with the plyaer

teecity?

19:13

wassat?

game

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as fake as it gets

there was a thread full of these people on r/programmerhumor a couple days ago, corpos patting eachother on the back about how much money their code makes

Ddnet makes infinite fun. That's priceless

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the virgin "my code makes money" the chad "my code makes people have a fun time"

21:10

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Learath2

there was a thread full of these people on r/programmerhumor a couple days ago, corpos patting eachother on the back about how much money their code makes

i think this is just a reddit thing

21:20

a place for posers to get together and celebrate being posers without even realising

hey what exactly is GameTickTime in the CGameClient its used for rendering a bunch of stuff? how is it calculated? (edited)

probably by the backend get ticks fn

23:11

actually i don’t think ddnet has multiple backends for system stuff like that, i think it’s just sdl baked in

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