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Between 2023-06-28 00:00:00Z and 2023-06-29 00:00:00Z
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Voxel
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stop spilling state secrets
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Voxel
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2023-06-28 05:21:17Z
I bet with these kind of questions parents are dealing with on a daily basis
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Voxel
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how can nothing rhyme with orange? has this fellow ever eaten cabbage?
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troll
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how can nothing rhyme with orange? has this fellow ever eaten cabbage?
cabbage and orange dont rhyme
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kinda sounded like it did
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justatest
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orange door hinge syringe
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bornana
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courage
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purple team
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purple team
@purpp 🟪
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wait that's not purrp T
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actually not
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2023-06-28 06:49:09Z
actually hot
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Actually bot
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Actually rot
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Hi, how do you login on the [A] servers? O.o
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skywallkee
Hi, how do you login on the [A] servers? O.o
think its by the player called [A] Awesome? Provide screenshot
08:39
I mean these servers
08:39
I'm trying to login on my account, not on someone else's 😅
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skywallkee
I'm trying to login on my account, not on someone else's 😅
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Why can't I join gores server in DDnet ?
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KoG servers should really openly share the discord on join so more go there for questions
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Yes, but when I want to join the serv on DDnet, it says that I have to login. but how ?
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That not ddnet
09:21
That's kog
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how is this part? i cannot stabilize the jetpack
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everything good
09:36
why does this appear when /times ? 😄 just super lucky?
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( /times Sugarhy)
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Vappy
how is this part? i cannot stabilize the jetpack
Theres a specific angle to be able to fly without losing or changing height on jetpack, you just gotta find it
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Draggory
Theres a specific angle to be able to fly without losing or changing height on jetpack, you just gotta find it
oooh 45º?¿
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Nah it's more down
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you got hacked
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Does anyone else just tp around the map or fail to hook or has delay? Or in general have internet issues with the game?
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Alucardoxo
Does anyone else just tp around the map or fail to hook or has delay? Or in general have internet issues with the game?
Do you use WIFI or a LAN-cable?
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WiFi
14:41
I don't have issues with anything else but this game is smth else
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Alucardoxo
WiFi
Laptop or desktop pc?
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Alucardoxo
I don't have issues with anything else but this game is smth else
DDNet requires a very stable connection, unlike "other" games
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Valorant as example requires more stable connection as well or else I'll lag just like in this game
14:44
I've also seen ppl when they fall in freeze they say in chat "lag" , so is it just me or it's a really common thing
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Alucardoxo
I've also seen ppl when they fall in freeze they say in chat "lag" , so is it just me or it's a really common thing
"lag" is often used as a common excuse for skill issues 😄
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Alucardoxo
Valorant as example requires more stable connection as well or else I'll lag just like in this game
to improve your situation, it would be advisable to purchase a LAN cable
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Alucardoxo
Does anyone else just tp around the map or fail to hook or has delay? Or in general have internet issues with the game?
You can also try different server locations
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deen
You can also try different server locations
The lowest ping server I've got are password locked, TestGores & servers with account login, in which case I don't have
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Alucardoxo
The lowest ping server I've got are password locked, TestGores & servers with account login, in which case I don't have
this is the ddrace discord server not kog
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And still on them I still pretty much lag, hear the hook sound but doesn't hook
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I.K.U
this is the ddrace discord server not kog
But same goes for ddrace, it's global issue for me
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a lot of things can affect your connection
14:56
so its really hard to pinpoint what is the issue
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guys, can someone share 3fly config?
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murpi
"lag" is often used as a common excuse for skill issues 😄
David*°Villa 2023-06-28 14:59:59Z
I used to blame lags for failing. But now I accepted the skill issues.
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Done the cmd stuff, on average I've got 45ms, only once it did drop at 175ms and 85ms
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murpi
DSL over Cable? hell no 👀
DSL is less shared than coax cable, which is a totally shared medium among possibly hundreds of households
15:12
dsl has some cross-speak across closeby cable pairs, but still way more consistent in congested areas
15:13
of course the cable providers don't tell you how much they oversell a single connection
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Lynzz
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David*°Villa 2023-06-28 16:45:48Z
hi
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@murpi I cant find ticket channel
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We don't have a ticket system yet, what's the issue?
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I want register
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DDNet and KoG aren't affiliated
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ok tysm
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Âurune
@murpi I cant find ticket channel
@murpi i cant find unban channel
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deen
of course the cable providers don't tell you how much they oversell a single connection
please tell me DDNet wont be participating in that Account-Login bullshit. I swear I will pay for gores servers if you make them public
17:53
Monthly
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I think they are handling it pretty good
18:27
and provide a good example we could adopt
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well sadly ddnet admins hate the idea, but its time to have a gores section in ddnet
18:28
forced accounts is completely anti teeworlds
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whats good about required login?
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i am ofc ok with optional accounts
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ive been playing teeworlds for 14 yrs now and it has never been a problem
18:29
literally making problems out of nothing
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@Jupstar ✪ did smth happen? ootl
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Ryozuki
@Jupstar ✪ did smth happen? ootl
kog will soon only allow ppl to play gores with accounts
18:32
not optionally
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What does that even fix :D
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just a small powertripping community
18:33
nothing more
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i dunno, as said, optional accounts.. all fine
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forcing their bullshti on every player
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but forced accounts evil
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u werent able to obtain points if not logged in iirc?
18:34
i was ok with that
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you were
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welp.
18:35
HMMMM account server vs no acc
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old version
18:36
in kog discord #news
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it says no more non account servers
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first teeworlds data, now kog
18:36
HMMM
18:37
AHAHHAHA
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ye was reading
18:37
i dislike the company-talk on a open source game
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18:37
looks so fake xd
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cant wait for the tee watches for 3k€
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more like being forced to lmao
18:44
hopium that ddnet will host gores 🙏
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Steinchen
HMMMM account server vs no acc
Its accounted too, but you can play without accounts too 🙂 For new players for example
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Avolicious
Its accounted too, but you can play without accounts too 🙂 For new players for example
So I can just hop on and off kog whenever i want? I usually go play for about 30min, then Im busy :D
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Steinchen
So I can just hop on and off kog whenever i want? I usually go play for about 30min, then Im busy :D
On non [A] servers
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corporate talk
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Laboon
whats good about required login?
Theres a few pros:
  • Moderation is easier, because we dont rely on IPs nor on other detection techniques.
  • No more finishing on other names ( future )
  • If the player is logged in, you can be sure that the person is the person you know
  • Clansystem with clan management I could continue the list
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Avolicious
Its accounted too, but you can play without accounts too 🙂 For new players for example
so its not forced account?
18:50
in your news its sounds very much like that
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But its up to every server team how they wanna deal with this. We will host some free servers too, for non logged in users ( to check gores out )
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Jupstar ✪
so its not forced account?
For most of our servers it will be accounted only, so people will create accounts
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well anyway, time to kill kog 😬
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18:50
closed source and closed ecosystem sucks
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Its not like the idea was made in one week. We decided after 2 years, to finally release this version
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yes like i said im a little blocked because of work but in a few months when ive more free time ill look into hosting gores myself
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Laboon
yes like i said im a little blocked because of work but in a few months when ive more free time ill look into hosting gores myself
Would be great, if you have questions, just hit me up 👍
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id need the maps, the download links on kog.tw dont work
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Avolicious
Its not like the idea was made in one week. We decided after 2 years, to finally release this version
ddnet admins dont care anyway, i tried this a few times already
18:53
they dont play gores so its not their deal
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Jupstar ✪
ddnet admins dont care anyway, i tried this a few times already
What do you mean? the account stuff?
18:53
Or "kill" kog?
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yeah trying to get away from kog
18:53
and add gores section to ddnet
18:54
Technically ddnet could
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already under qshar 😂
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thats ages ago
18:54
😮
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Jupstar ✪
they dont play gores so its not their deal
Most admins don't play at all*
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18:56
If I weren't terrible at it, I would play gores
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Jupstar ✪
closed source and closed ecosystem sucks
ye tis sucks
18:57
thats why ddnet should have been agpl
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the best license
18:57
im glad u asked
18:58
Since 1983, developing the free Unix style operating system GNU, so that computer users can have the freedom to share and improve the software they use.
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- The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose (freedom 0). - The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. - The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help others (freedom 2). - The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
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the AGPL license ensures this
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kog is closed source
18:58
its private software
18:59
non-free
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thats cringe
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ye lots
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btw im sad that tournament block isnt hosted anymore
18:59
took me a few weeks to get it done (edited)
18:59
but i guess no one played it anyways
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If the users don't control the program, the program controls the users. With proprietary software, there is always some entity, the developer or “owner” of the program, that controls the program—and through it, exercises power over its users. A nonfree program is a yoke, an instrument of unjust power.
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In outrageous cases (though this outrage has become quite usual) proprietary programs are designed to spy on the users, restrict them, censor them, and abuse them. For instance, the operating system of Apple iThings does all of these, and so does Windows on mobile devices with ARM chips. Windows, mobile phone firmware, and Google Chrome for Windows include a universal back door that allows some company to change the program remotely without asking permission. The Amazon Kindle has a back door that can erase books.
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oh wow didnt expect ddnet to get worked that actively on
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Ryozuki
thats why ddnet should have been agpl
they could claim they build a layer around the original code, then agpl wouldnt help, right?
19:01
like not modifying the code itself
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Jupstar ✪
they could claim they build a layer around the original code, then agpl wouldnt help, right?
agpl protects even for that
19:02
agpl is infections its the awesome power
19:02
infectious*
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just linking to it makes u accept agpl
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or a compatible license
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Ryozuki
just linking to it makes u accept agpl
but what i u dont link
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e.g. build it around the network code
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@Jupstar ✪ agpl works for server side software
19:03
agpl is the fix over gpl
19:03
for network
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so u cannot use a closed source proxy with any AGPL software?
19:04
cool af logo too
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apache2 closed source proxy, AGPL http server
19:04
would not be allowed?
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Jupstar ✪
so u cannot use a closed source proxy with any AGPL software?
i asked heinrich that, i think not
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what about the router of the company?
19:05
its "kind of" a proxy too
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but its a big deterrent anyway
19:05
gpl made lot of big companies yield to free software
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Consider GNU Objective C. NeXT initially wanted to make this front end proprietary; they proposed to release it as .o files, and let users link them with the rest of GCC, thinking this might be a way around the GPL's requirements. But our lawyer said that this would not evade the requirements, that it was not allowed. And so they made the Objective C front end free software.
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Those examples happened years ago, but the GNU GPL continues to bring us more free software.
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seems questionably enforcable
19:06
has it upheld in court?
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why wouldnt it
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many private licenses force way more stuff onto people
19:07
gpl uses the law/copyright against itself
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you cannot just write anything in your copyright license. for example I can say that by reading this message you accept to my terms to forfit all your money to me
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Open source license litigation involves lawsuits surrounding open-source licensed software. Many of the legal rights of open source software licensors enforceable against users violating licensing agreements are untested by the U.S. legal system. Free and open source software (FOSS) is distributed under a variety of free-software licenses, which...
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Tater
you cannot just write anything in your copyright license. for example I can say that by reading this message you accept to my terms to forfit all your money to me
yeah, this license been reviewed by countless lawyers tho and ofc made by lawyers under stallman watch
19:07
or fsf
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how couldnt they see the pedo touch
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😬 😬 😬
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@Tater proven
19:08
What was claimed to be the first US lawsuit over a GPL violation concerned use of BusyBox in an embedded device. The lawsuit,[17] case 07-CV-8205 was filed on September 20, 2007, by the Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) on behalf of Andersen and Landley against Monsoon Multimedia Inc., after BusyBox code was discovered in a firmware upgrade and attempts to contact the company had apparently failed. The case was settled with release of the Monsoon version of the source and payment of an undisclosed amount of money to Andersen and Landley.
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Jupstar ✪
how couldnt they see the pedo touch
ur annoying
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Ryozuki
What was claimed to be the first US lawsuit over a GPL violation concerned use of BusyBox in an embedded device. The lawsuit,[17] case 07-CV-8205 was filed on September 20, 2007, by the Software Freedom Law Center (SFLC) on behalf of Andersen and Landley against Monsoon Multimedia Inc., after BusyBox code was discovered in a firmware upgrade and attempts to contact the company had apparently failed. The case was settled with release of the Monsoon version of the source and payment of an undisclosed amount of money to Andersen and Landley.
ofc I know about GPL I mean specifically AGPL (edited)
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damn how many heart emotes are there
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this already breaks every license ever
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did u read
19:12
After several attempts for an off-court solution, the question was finally settled by the parties, restoring the correct license, and the other issues.
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was the clause they broke specific to just AGPL?
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I don't think so
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@Tater most ppl break free license by relicensing or stuff like this
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iirc
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or just "forgetting" the license
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if I make a license that says 1. you forfit your money to me 2. do not republish this source code I think the court can still uphold the second clause and ignore the first one (edited)
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agpl best
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case solved
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thanks ur excellency (edited)
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Your honor, some dude named Ryozuki with an anime avatar really likes this license. I urge you to reconsider this matter
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Learath2
Your honor, some dude named Ryozuki with an anime avatar really likes this license. I urge you to reconsider this matter
TOOBASED
19:26
this reminds me i need to update my anime pfp
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Jupstar ✪
damn how many heart emotes are there
still we will never be able to tell you how much we love your work!
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@Jupstar ✪ with nitro u would get more hearts
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Ryozuki
@Jupstar ✪ with nitro u would get more hearts
if discord goes open source, i'd pay for it
19:29
😏
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Jupstar ✪
if discord goes open source, i'd pay for it
agpl
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pls dont go open source now lol
19:29
lmfao
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new open source OS windowsfx
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if discord goes open source im coding all the nitro features unlocked for me
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Voxel
if discord goes open source im coding all the nitro features unlocked for me
vencord gigachad
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i need to find more good open source projects to touch because i like coding but idk what else to achieve here
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code a bot that does your job
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hey guys, we say me ds in kog? pls
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MüslümGürses 2023-06-28 19:42:34Z
@murpi
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@Robyt3
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MüslümGürses 2023-06-28 19:43:08Z
i want to report someone
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#reports
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dont just ping admins for no reason
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who just pinged me
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i am this mr admins
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kid named this mr admins:
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$kick @cyberFighter
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WHY DOES IT NOT WORK
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$kick Steinchen
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cuz im an admin
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sorry for posting gifs in general, boss
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krill issue
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nope ur getting banned immediately
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frick
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back to my duty of being a good moderator by afking in multeasymap for 24 hours straight
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ADMIN*
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@ konsti
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oynucak var mı
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how loging
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NW Dasherow
oynucak var mı
ben oynarim
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