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Between 2023-06-10 00:00:00Z and 2023-06-11 00:00:00Z
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Ewan 2023-06-10 00:09:12Z
somehow still awake
00:09
this marks hour 30
00:09
bluekitty
00:12
yes heinrich red on iOS very conflicting and horrifying
00:12
may be a sign of Armageddon
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Voxel
still red
Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 04:59:45Z
For me too. Confusing af xd
05:00
He needs to use his github pfp now xd
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Mr.Gh0s7 2023-06-10 05:41:56Z
He still is green for me. Well, I use irc (compact) mode but when I click to see his icon it's green 😉
05:42
it's maybe because he got a username without a tag?
05:44
maybe it's*
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 07:29:30Z
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Experimental-Rust-PuzzleFS
Cisco Posts Rust-Written PuzzleFS File-System Driver For Linux
PuzzleFS is a next-generation container file-system for Linux with fast image building, direct-mount support, and other container-optimized features being worked on by Cisco engineers
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 07:34:16Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
f2c982e Server stats - def-
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 08:25:16Z
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Robyt3
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6728 Fix undefined player vote/team change time
The time of the last kick vote and the time of the last team change are initially in an undefined state, which causes the kick vote and team change to fail due to the delay incorrectly being applied. Closes #6723.

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ws-client BOT 2023-06-10 08:37:15Z
<ChillerDragon> !jup now we just need heinrich to bridge webchat ready for multi channel
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chillerbot1 BOT 2023-06-10 08:37:15Z
@Jupstar ✪
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-10 08:37:16Z
<ChillerDragon> https://chat.zillyhuhn.com/?c=off-topic
08:39
<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 when bridge #off-topic
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heinrich5991 2023-06-10 08:56:03Z
ChillerDragon: yea, I think I'll do it
08:56
but not now
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heinrich5991
I'm red?
gerdoe 2023-06-10 09:01:51Z
blue to me
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Mr.Gh0s7 2023-06-10 09:07:25Z
red to me from phone
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 09:12:10Z
yeah its only on phone
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heinrich5991 2023-06-10 09:12:33Z
weird
09:12
so maybe it'll be fixed in an update
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 09:17:53Z
did u choose green as color? i cant remember how its handled in discord xd
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heinrich5991 2023-06-10 09:30:41Z
I didn't choose green
09:30
but I like the green
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 09:30:58Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6728 Fix undefined player vote/team change time
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6723 Vote-kick cooldown can be undefined
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
1172be1 Fix undefined player vote/team change time - Robyt3 80c3206 Merge pull request #6728 from Robyt3/Player-Undefined-Time-Variables - def-
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heinrich5991
I'm red?
TsFreddie 2023-06-10 10:24:46Z
Red to me as well
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Cellegen 2023-06-10 10:37:37Z
its green for me, using normal Discord
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 11:32:04Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6729 Minor refactoring of `CAnimState` and tee rendering functions
  • Use nullptr instead of 0.
  • Remove dead code.
  • Mark functions and pointers as const when possible.
  • Remove unused argument of CRenderTools::GetRenderTeeAnimScaleAndBaseSize function.
  • Copy tee render info when rendering emote wheel instead of modifying global render info.
  • Fix names of static variables.

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  • [X] Tested the change ingame
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 11:57:55Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6730 Try older Windows Server 2022 version for CI
Workaround for https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6725

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  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 12:05:55Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
883fb88 Minor refactoring of CAnimState and tee rendering functions - Robyt3 32b78f1 Merge pull request #6729 from Robyt3/CAnimState-Refactoring - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6729 Minor refactoring of `CAnimState` and tee rendering functions
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-10 12:26:23Z
<ChillerDragon> u all blue robots
12:26
<ChillerDragon> pog pog bridge heinrich
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<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1686400215.png
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<ChillerDragon> master down?
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<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991
12:30
<ChillerDragon> https://master1.ddnet.org/ddnet/15/servers.json
12:30
<ChillerDragon> is this the correct url?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 12:34:35Z
works for me
12:34
tor problems xdd
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-10 12:34:58Z
<ChillerDragon> xaxax
12:35
<ChillerDragon> yes it back for me too
12:35
<ChillerDragon> was down for liek 1minute
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 13:26:58Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
2c03973 Try linking to ntdll (fixes #6725) - def- dcf7234 Merge #6730 - bors[bot]
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bors[bot]
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6725 Windows CI sometimes fails since a few days ago
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6730 Try linking to ntdll (fixes #6725)
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hus3h 2023-06-10 13:28:39Z
Hello, https://info.ddnet.tw/info is down
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deen 2023-06-10 13:44:07Z
Thanks for the report, fixed
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 14:01:36Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
7af1fe3 Fix top alignment of some popup messages - Robyt3 5c3a3ce Merge #6726 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6726 Fix top alignment of some popup messages
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GitHub BOT 2023-06-10 14:29:24Z
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[ddnet:master] 9 new commits
abfafa3 Add IGraphics::GetScreenName - Robyt3 f16974d Extract CScrollRegion::HEIGHT_MAGIC_FIX - Robyt3 09835ed Add scroll region parameter to disable right margin - Robyt3 f0bb4a4 Allow adjusting popup border/background color - Robyt3 082c8b8 Extend generic selection popup - Robyt3 a8b5419 Use generic selection popup for drop down menus - Robyt3 387a71a Add dropdown to select screen and show screen name - Robyt3 5b3f6e8 Use dropdown menu to select game controller - Robyt3 6a53d72 Merge #6721 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6721 Improve selection popups and dropdown menus, add dropdown menus to select screen and active controller
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 14:46:52Z
@Jupstar ✪ big news
14:47
debian 12 released
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time to update ddnet servers
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time to migrate to c++20
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https://www.debian.org/News/2023/20230610
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 14:49:37Z
brownbear
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-10 14:49:51Z
<ChillerDragon> wot
14:49
<ChillerDragon> pog!
14:50
<ChillerDragon> ryo is literally my best source of debian news since years
14:50
<ChillerDragon> so gonna update my laptop next week!
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Mr.Gh0s7 2023-06-10 14:50:30Z
ryo is the best source for keeping up to date ;)
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 14:50:33Z
xd
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-10 14:51:58Z
<ChillerDragon> bru gnome 43
14:53
<ChillerDragon> vim 9 yay
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 14:54:33Z
bruv
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Ewan 2023-06-10 15:07:50Z
a
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Asacura 2023-06-10 15:37:53Z
help my bugs
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 15:38:57Z
u have no bugs
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MilkeeyCat 2023-06-10 15:39:53Z
so instead of helping him to fix bugs you made. you just say there're no bugs
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Asacura 2023-06-10 15:39:59Z
I don't understand how to make such textures
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MilkeeyCat 2023-06-10 15:40:06Z
PAGE UP
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 15:40:14Z
see no bugs
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Asacura 2023-06-10 15:41:01Z
press the page up key and that's it?
15:41
I don't understand how to put such textures
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MilkeeyCat 2023-06-10 15:42:24Z
have a nice time explainign something to him
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Ewan 2023-06-10 15:43:11Z
I don't understand how to put such textures
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MilkeeyCat
have a nice time explainign something to him
Asacura 2023-06-10 15:44:23Z
ALL GOOD thanks
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Ewan
I don't understand how to put such textures
Asacura 2023-06-10 15:44:27Z
thanks
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Asacura
press the page up key and that's it?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 15:52:07Z
yes, now u can select the other textures
15:52
for modding ask on https://discord.gg/teeworlds-data-772063761757896755
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 15:55:22Z
english certified moment
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Ryozuki
time to migrate to c++20
Voxel 2023-06-10 15:57:43Z
i wonder how much will change when we go to cpp20
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-10 15:58:10Z
<ChillerDragon> code will be ugly non C ish
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<ChillerDragon> gaminger endusers wont notice anything
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Ewan 2023-06-10 16:04:00Z
nothing will change
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Voxel 2023-06-10 16:05:16Z
so it wont even run a tiny bit faster?
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Ryozuki
time to migrate to c++20
gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:08:41Z
better wait for c++23 santatrollet
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Voxel
so it wont even run a tiny bit faster?
gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:09:39Z
ddnet code currently is mix of c c++11 c++17 xd
16:10
and theres nothing about performance boost from new standards
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 16:10:07Z
c++98 but 2098
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:10:19Z
98% cpu load troll
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gerdoe
ddnet code currently is mix of c c++11 c++17 xd
Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 16:10:33Z
ddnet is a mix of c, c++98, and a bit newer cpp 😂
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Voxel
so it wont even run a tiny bit faster?
Ryozuki 2023-06-10 16:11:04Z
its just "better abstractions" mostly
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:11:43Z
are concepts usable?
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 16:11:57Z
but yeah a new standard doesnt magically give perf
16:12
in fact if u want more perf u go to old c
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:12:18Z
also still can't make constexpr kv map without macros
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 16:12:38Z
or rust
16:12
unique ptr is not zero cost
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Voxel 2023-06-10 16:13:00Z
ddnet rust when ryoz
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 16:13:03Z
box in rust is
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option too
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:13:23Z
unique ptr is not zero cost?
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lulz
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 16:13:29Z
no
16:13
look this chat history
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heinrich told it
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Voxel 2023-06-10 16:13:49Z
idk whar that means but it sounds like propaganda
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Ewan 2023-06-10 16:14:05Z
heinrich said so it's the absolute truth
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:14:15Z
it sounds like std lib is kinda bruh fr fr
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 16:14:16Z
learath too
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and i say it too
16:14
but the truth comes from godboly
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godbolt
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Ewan 2023-06-10 16:14:40Z
i love my cpu
16:14
so fast
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 16:14:43Z
the outputted assembly
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Ryozuki
heinrich told it
gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:15:01Z
do you have link to first message about unique ptrs?
16:15
i don't argue about it just wanna read conversation
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ok gonna lurk so+habr to learn more xd
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oh so moving unique ptr costs some empty state object if its not return valur
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value
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 16:27:13Z
It depends on compiler anyway
16:27
Like always
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-10 16:29:26Z
<ChillerDragon> newer coding tech usually just uses abstractions into tricking you to write nice looking code that is slow af
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Jupstar ✪
It depends on compiler anyway
gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:30:26Z
still don't get what "i know cpp" means xd
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Ewan 2023-06-10 16:30:37Z
Yes it’s a trick purely to deceive devs
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 16:30:50Z
theres so many unknown cases in it for me at least
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 16:34:46Z
i mean is not using zero abstraction an "unknown" case for you?
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in an absolute hot path it might have an effect on perf, else it might not matter anyway
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Ewan 2023-06-10 17:21:17Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/actions/runs/5230992782/jobs/9444868823?pr=6727 i assume it thinks the line is too long and it wants it to abide by the MaxColumns or whatever, but there's none set in the .clang-format (edited)
17:21
but clang-format --style=file ./src/game/client/file_loader.h doesn't have anything different (edited)
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:19:49Z
why run clang manually
18:19
./scripts/fix_style.py ftw
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which version is your clang-format in?
18:20
@Ewan
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:20:52Z
i dont have the ci scripts lol
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:21:01Z
if u have ddnet repo
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:21:05Z
o they are just there
18:21
i didnt notice
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:21:08Z
u have fix_style.py
18:21
this u best frint
18:21
it also version checks you
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:21:38Z
clang-format version 16.0.4
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:22:27Z
buy clang format 10
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which distro u on?
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:23:23Z
lol
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:23:28Z
its in aur
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:23:41Z
why i want different version of clang-format
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:23:50Z
you want the one the ci uses
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then you can run ./scripts/fix_style.py and ci wont fail
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:24:16Z
ci should use new clang format
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:24:20Z
pr
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:24:45Z
bleh
18:25
i've satisfied the beast for now anyways
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brute force
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:25:25Z
oh no
18:25
just run fix style locally
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i really recommend getting that to work locally
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:26:13Z
msys user repository when
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:26:22Z
uff windows
18:26
rly
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:26:33Z
yea
18:26
i like the windows
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-06-10 18:26:50Z
ok bye
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:26:55Z
updates don't break my audio
18:26
it just works
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Ewan 2023-06-10 18:59:05Z
which aur pkg
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ChillerDragon
just run fix style locally
toneey 2023-06-10 19:40:38Z
How do you do that?
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Ewan 2023-06-10 19:42:47Z
is just a python script
19:42
i didnt actually look at the workflow i thought it was doing other stuff lol
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Ewan
updates don't break my audio
Ryozuki 2023-06-10 19:43:16Z
mine either
19:43
and u dont have pipewire in windows
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Ewan 2023-06-10 19:43:34Z
why would i want pipewire
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 19:43:41Z
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advanced audio setup
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Ewan 2023-06-10 19:43:50Z
looks like jack to me
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 19:44:11Z
pipewire can indeed replace jack too
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https://github.com/rncbc/qpwgraph
GitHub - rncbc/qpwgraph: qpwgraph - A PipeWire Graph Qt GUI Interface
qpwgraph - A PipeWire Graph Qt GUI Interface. Contribute to rncbc/qpwgraph development by creating an account on GitHub.
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https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pipewire/helvum
PipeWire / Helvum · GitLab
A GTK patchbay for pipewire.
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Ewan 2023-06-10 19:45:10Z
claudia rip off
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 19:45:12Z
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Ewan 2023-06-10 19:45:12Z
o
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that one's better
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 19:45:21Z
thats the thing with linux
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u can decide
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TOPKEK OMG OWNED
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Ewan 2023-06-10 19:45:32Z
i'd wait for a kxstudio app
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 19:45:34Z
ye i woke up ccringe today
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Ewan 2023-06-10 19:46:15Z
oh nvm that's the qjackctl guy
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neat
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anyway windows audio has always been low-latency for me and i've never once had an issue with it breaking or high cpu/memory usage
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:00:35Z
me neither on linux
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:06:41Z
linux has real time kernels
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:16:51Z
hmm
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:17:31Z
just dont waste any more of your precious time and install linux
20:17
come to the master race
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:17:55Z
when has my time been wasted by windows
20:18
it’s not a thing
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:18:20Z
come to the bright side:
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:18:37Z
❓
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:18:57Z
does this guy look evil to u
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:19:02Z
Yea
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:19:17Z
linux is faster
20:19
so windows wastes ur time
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even slowbuntu is faster than windows
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isnt that convincing enough
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:21:00Z
do u think i never used linux
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:21:11Z
apparently yes
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u never used it
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:21:36Z
i used a lot of linux
20:21
i just like the windows for desktop
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cuz i can run all things and things work
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:22:09Z
but they work worse
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:22:30Z
howzat
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:22:44Z
they slower, stupid design choices
20:22
what does not suck about windows
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:23:02Z
api
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:23:03Z
winxp compatible 😂
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the win32 api does not suck?
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:23:15Z
it does not
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:23:18Z
in what world do you live 😂
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:23:23Z
this one idk
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:23:31Z
windows is hybrid kernel
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:23:34Z
so it doesn't work with your conventions
20:23
so what
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:23:47Z
u can call all windows api under linux too
20:23
so chill
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:24:20Z
❓
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:24:27Z
❗
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:25:07Z
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Jupstar ✪
what does not suck about windows
ReiTW 2023-06-10 20:26:19Z
wsl
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:26:30Z
its a slow linux
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it sucks
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😂
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ReiTW 2023-06-10 20:26:42Z
It is not meant to be fast
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:27:04Z
well its better than windows, but that's also a paradox in itself
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ReiTW 2023-06-10 20:27:40Z
Also i'm waiting for that git integration in windows
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:27:44Z
what
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os level git integration?
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ReiTW 2023-06-10 20:28:32Z
https://youtu.be/bC-60KNgLuE
Microsoft Developer
Introducing Dev Home
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:29:11Z
oh yeah
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ReiTW 2023-06-10 20:30:01Z
Sure windows is proprietary etc.. but they have good ideas
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They just need to make it work properly lmaoo
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:30:18Z
no cuz windows isn't the fastest that means it's objectively worse for every purpose and shouldn't be used
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:30:21Z
like making your screen go black when u switch to a fullscreen app?
20:30
great idea
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:31:36Z
u cannot even take conversation seriously
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ReiTW 2023-06-10 20:31:43Z
Also u didn't mention which version of windows but for eg as a sysadmin I can say active directory is a major feature
20:32
So much easier
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:32:23Z
always locking files, also absolutely great idea 😂
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:32:43Z
yes
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:32:45Z
the fact that u have to close your debugger before building again
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:32:45Z
it is a good idea
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:32:51Z
isnt that a reason enough
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Ewan
it is a good idea
Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:32:59Z
lol
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 20:33:57Z
have anyone worked with rust abi as rust app?
20:34
like a plugin system where shared libraries are plugins
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gerdoe
like a plugin system where shared libraries are plugins
Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:35:05Z
not with binaries directly but i did test around with wasm, which apparently is "only" 1.3x slower than native
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 20:35:28Z
huh i can use rhai or something
20:35
just wanna know is it possible to do stable app with dylib plugins
20:36
got this to read https://zicklag.github.io/rust-tutorials/rust-plugins.html
Rust Plugins - Rust Tutorials
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:36:11Z
dlopen
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Ewan
it does not
Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:36:12Z
wot
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:36:17Z
🧠:
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:36:28Z
the world would be a better place if linux api was the only
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:36:36Z
what linux api
20:36
lmao
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 20:36:36Z
but seems there's problem with stablenedd of rust abi
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:36:42Z
also windows naming is ridiculous
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 20:36:47Z
stableness*
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Ewan
what linux api
Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:37:07Z
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX
POSIX
The Portable Operating System Interface (POSIX; IPA: ) is a family of standards specified by the IEEE Computer Society for maintaining compatibility between operating systems. POSIX defines both the system and user-level application programming interfaces (APIs), along with command line shells and utility interfaces, for software compatibility (...
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:37:12Z
yes
20:37
u called it linux api
20:37
lol
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:37:23Z
i mean if linux implements posix
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gerdoe
but seems there's problem with stablenedd of rust abi
Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:37:25Z
well u probably have to use c as an API then
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:37:26Z
its kinda the linux api
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Jupstar ✪
well u probably have to use c as an API then
gerdoe 2023-06-10 20:37:38Z
huh fair
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gerdoe
have anyone worked with rust abi as rust app?
Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:37:49Z
rust abi is not stable
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Ryozuki
its kinda the linux api
Ewan 2023-06-10 20:37:51Z
lmfao
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:37:51Z
fair and simple
20:37
use repr c
20:38
if linux implements POSIX as a way to interface it
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it is the linux api by definition
20:38
i dont see how the logic is flawed
20:38
doesnt exclude posix being the interface api for other systems
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:38:38Z
u cannot call posix the linux api just because linux implements it
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:38:42Z
why not?
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:38:48Z
because it's not just the linux api
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:38:51Z
the linux api is POSIX
20:38
where is the statement false
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:39:00Z
the linux api implements posix
20:39
they are different entities
20:39
posix is the standard
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:39:13Z
me calling posix the linux api doesnt make it not be other os api
20:39
and this convo is stupid
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:39:25Z
ye
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Ewan
posix is the standard
Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:39:30Z
but would u say posix is a interface?
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:39:43Z
are we speaking in oop
20:39
because that's a whole different wheel house
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:39:52Z
we dont speak oop
20:39
object oriented is evil
20:39
sucks
20:40
the rust way is better
20:40
composition over inheritance
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:40:12Z
😴
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:40:17Z
its the hard truth
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 20:40:23Z
no
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:40:27Z
it indeed is
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 20:40:28Z
not that hard
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:40:34Z
pure functional programming
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gerdoe 2023-06-10 20:40:50Z
haskell supremacy 🙏
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:40:54Z
i need a tshirt
20:41
with composition over inheritance
20:41
written in it
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Jupstar ✪
pure functional programming
Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:41:15Z
lambda calculus
20:41
the most simple programming language possible
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:43:46Z
why can't windows and linux enjoyers exist in harmony
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:43:58Z
ur propietary
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:44:01Z
bcs u want enjoy windows
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:44:04Z
20:44
join the cult
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:44:08Z
i enjoy both
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:44:09Z
and thats not even possible
20:44
xD
20:44
linux isnt perfect
20:44
but always better than win
20:44
that simple
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:44:28Z
@Ewan u will never find harmony in this chat
20:44
jupstar loves non licenses
20:44
i love agpl
20:44
u love windows
20:44
i love linux
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chiller likes gnome
20:44
we dont like gnome
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:44:53Z
obligatory rms free software song
20:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw
BeatStock
Richard Stallman Free software Song
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:45:01Z
he is a singer
20:45
indeed
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:45:14Z
i like java ryo likes rust
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:45:16Z
GNUsic
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:45:17Z
lol
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:45:18Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
John Rearick
Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot
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Ewan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:45:32Z
xd typical reaction of anti stallmaners
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:45:36Z
@Ewan can we agree that java sucks?
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:45:36Z
i like stallman
20:45
he's just weird
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:45:39Z
go for the personality instead of the arguments
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:45:40Z
yes java sux
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-06-10 20:45:46Z
good start
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Ewan 2023-06-10 20:50:00Z
join us now and share the software
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 20:52:04Z
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Ewan 2023-06-10 21:04:03Z
😴
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ReiTW 2023-06-10 22:39:46Z
https://youtu.be/VkezQMb1DHw
Fireship
High-school student makes React a million times faster
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Ryozuki 2023-06-10 22:41:52Z
rm -rf node_modules
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Learath2 2023-06-10 22:48:42Z
rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
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Learath2
rm -rf --no-preserve-root /
gerdoe 2023-06-10 23:20:45Z
chillerpi reference
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Anime.pdf 2023-06-10 23:21:16Z
chillerpi incident
23:21
rage
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