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Hi. lately im lagging extreme on ddnet my wifi didnt get any worse tho. anyway 2 fix? (edited)

03:40

My ping on the top right says something from 20-40 but i lag hella :/ (edited)

Probably ddos, switch servers

04:10

Also if possible, use an ethernet cable for a much better and more stable connection

guys where I can get game-skins?

06:43

nvm

week

I reinstalled windows. Deleted configs. It didn't help me

first try another mouse, i had this problem, it turned out the right button didn't work properly (edited)

Hey, does anyone know how to bind a button to toggle orders like +left via the console? For example, is there a way to toggle orders like +showhookcoll by pressing a button so there is no need to hold it to see the hook collisions? If there isn't a specific command for this, is there a trick or shortcut I can use to achieve the same effect without holding the button, then press spec?

Warner

Hey, does anyone know how to bind a button to toggle orders like +left via the console? For example, is there a way to toggle orders like +showhookcoll by pressing a button so there is no need to hold it to see the hook collisions? If there isn't a specific command for this, is there a trick or shortcut I can use to achieve the same effect without holding the button, then press spec?

cl_show_hook_coll_own 2

Cipy29

cl_show_hook_coll_own 2

Right, but i want it to be showen for everyone.

u can't toggle +commands

11:49

they're supposed to be held down via a key to be activated (edited)

11:50

only "trick" is the one you explained, hold hookcoll and spec (if u want a slightly quicker method, use console instead of spec to hold it) (edited)

why was the spam of emotions removed?

Ximu

why was the spam of emotions removed?

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/745926398140612678/1115575683624742963

ok ty

hi. i have a question. why i cant spam emotes

@MilkeeyCat idk lol, ask admins justatest

@murpi do you know why?

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hi. i have a question. why i cant spam emotes

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nekorul

hi. i have a question. why i cant spam emotes

no sob emoji

15:19

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-StormAx pinned a message to this channel. 2023-06-08 15:19:07Z

MilkeeyCat

no sob emoji

hi. i have a question. why i cant spam emotes

perfect

okey now why i cant spam emotes

nekorul

okey now why i cant spam emotes

ping every admin and ask em

I'll add F.A.Q.

15:27

And will delete message's like that

-StormAx

I'll add F.A.Q.

it's already fixed, I think

MilkeeyCat

@murpi do you know why?

You should be able to spam emotes again by tomorrow.

@heinrich5991 i mean, really FAQ in #questions

15:32

Cuz i saw many repeating questions

discord doesn't really have a good place to put the FAQ. maybe in the channel topic

Na, just pin message xd

15:34

And write in channel description like FAQ -> pins

The wiki has a FAQ, just link to there

Ah

In what ways can you loose your fixed points in ddrace?

Frequently Asked Question(FAQ) -> https://wiki.ddnet.org/wiki/FAQ

FAQ

moty

In what ways can you loose your fixed points in ddrace?

I can only think of one way. That would be map rerates.

-StormAx pinned a message to this channel. 2023-06-08 15:35:38Z

tbf that's already in the channel description

murpi

I can only think of one way. That would be map rerates.

rerates? what is that? i know a person who lost all their points

15:36

idk how tho

not sure if channel pins are helpful, I would guess people don't look at them

moty

rerates? what is that? i know a person who lost all their points

did they change their name?

moty

rerates? what is that? i know a person who lost all their points

All their points? That doesn't sound normal. Mind sharing the persons in-game name?

heinrich5991

tbf that's already in the channel description

I don't watchin description at all xd

moty

rerates? what is that? i know a person who lost all their points

https://ddnet.org/renames/

oh ok

-StormAx

I don't watchin description at all xd

are you not on desktop discord? for desktop discord, it's on top of the channel

Now im on phone

15:37

But on pc I don't watchin description anyway

i saw first channel description only few months ago

15:38

i even didnt know it was a thing

Xd

the description is immediately visible without clicking

15:38

interesting

15:38

you first saw the pins before seeing the description?

Not for better discord users

ye

heinrich5991

did they change their name?

ye true, prob

i never lookked at right of channel name

heinrich5991

you first saw the pins before seeing the description?

I also never really check the channel topics on other servers either

-StormAx

Not for better discord users

screenshot?

@heinrich5991 im using phone now

murpi

I also never really check the channel topics on other servers either

but at the pins before looking at the description? ^^

heinrich5991

but at the pins before looking at the description? ^^

Yep

the description is right there, without clicking anythin

15:39

huh

15:39

interesting

Alr let's talk about that later

15:40

Im in bus^^

what does cl_showhud_healthammo 1 command? this hud was removed from the game

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what does cl_showhud_healthammo 1 command? this hud was removed from the game

It's still visible when you join gamemodes other than ddrace

Hey. When is something cosidered an unfair advantage / bot / etc? Any Client modification?

anything that helps you gameplay wise

17:02

wallhack

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wallhack

Well.. i was trying to make a consistent perfect speedfly modification by modifying the autohammer bind thats already in the game (h by default) Would that count as a bot tho?

Anything you can't do via .cfg files or the ddnet client itself, is against the rules. Yes, changing the behavior of the dummy hammer would be against the rules

Sadge. Lan it is!

Reasoning is: Dummy hammer is a literal bot, it's just a bot that's allowed because it was made specifically for DDNet

iirc, dummy hammer was actually quite OP when it was first implemented, and it was adjusted later on... Then everyone started using deepfly, which is arguably worse greenthing

is there a way to render demos faster? if I have a 2 hour demo I need to wait 2 hours to get it in mp4 format?

more likely it will be even more then 2 hours

19:02

only way to render demos faster i know is to render them with bigger speed, but still i don't think that this is best solution

Hey so i literally have micro lags every few seconds.. it just gets worse and its only on ddrace

(edited)

19:03

No ddos, just me. and its only in ddrace.

art0007i

is there a way to render demos faster? if I have a 2 hour demo I need to wait 2 hours to get it in mp4 format?

buy faster CPU, its CPU bound

19:05

soon™️ when there are vulkan h264 encoding drivers we could maybe try them out

art0007i

is there a way to render demos faster? if I have a 2 hour demo I need to wait 2 hours to get it in mp4 format?

if u dont care about quality lower resolution lower quality of the video

Jupstar ✪

if u dont care about quality lower resolution lower quality of the video

oh good point. I forgot I can just change the resolution

if its just one demo i can also do it ^^

can font replacement be a problem that causes the game to crash after opening the f1 console?

possible yes

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if its just one demo i can also do it ^^

actually I lowered the resolution and its still rendering slowly... maybe I'm rendering it wrong?? i just go in game in demos and click the "render" button. it's definitely not cpu bound now

art0007i

actually I lowered the resolution and its still rendering slowly... maybe I'm rendering it wrong?? i just go in game in demos and click the "render" button. it's definitely not cpu bound now

what is the CPU usage while rendering?

like 12%

also never minimize while rendering

art0007i

like 12%

what CPU and GPU do you have? ofc the GPU first has to render the frame

♂S1mple♂

can font replacement be a problem that causes the game to crash after opening the f1 console?

it should™️ not, but can

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possible yes

it can be done because of missing symbols or something in font?

♂S1mple♂

it can be done because of missing symbols or something in font?

u can share a crash log but no

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what CPU and GPU do you have? ofc the GPU first has to render the frame

cpu i5-10400f gpu rx6700 xt

not bcs of missing symbols normally

art0007i

cpu i5-10400f gpu rx6700 xt

laptop or desktop?

desktop (edited)

mh, latest client version?

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u can share a crash log but no

i dont know which one

♂S1mple♂

i dont know which one

it has a date, if there is non from today

19:26

look for assert log too

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mh, latest client version?

oh I figured it out. I had vsync on

♂S1mple♂

i dont know which one

rename dumps dir and reopne the client

19:26

then there should be only one

art0007i

oh I figured it out. I had vsync on

oh ok

I didn't realize it affects rendering. I thought it would only be for gameplay

it forces the CPU to wait for the GPU and the GPU is forced to only render at your monitors refresh rate

Jupstar ✪

rename dumps dir and reopne the client

i've just redid the situation where it crashes (here's screenshot) but nothings is in dumps folder, i did something wrong?

♂S1mple♂

i've just redid the situation where it crashes (here's screenshot) but nothings is in dumps folder, i did something wrong?

are u sure its bcs of the font?

19:38

like if u use the normal one it works?

19:38

i could imagine it goes into a infinite loop

19:38

can you maybe share the font simply?

when i play with regular and use f1 console it works well, when i play somewhat more then 5 minutes and open console with new font it crushes

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can you maybe share the font simply?

not it's real name obviously, real name of font if needed is nunito italic semi-bold

DejaVuSans.ttf

156.3 KB

k

19:44

what's that?

there it crashes

19:46

dead lock or smth

Matodor

first try another mouse, i had this problem, it turned out the right button didn't work properly (edited)

I tried it the problem is not in the mouse @Matodor

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dead lock or smth

so the problem is this specific font?

♂S1mple♂

so the problem is this specific font?

yeah but the reason cant be the font itself

19:47

it must be ddnet code

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Click to see attachment 🖼️

@heinrich5991 any idea what that could mean? its no memory corruption and no endless loop

19:48

ok endless loop not sure

19:48

could be on a higher level

what is the result when it's not in a debugger?

19:48

it says "signal sigstop"

simply freezed

sounds like a deadlock

19:49

ah, std::mutex::lock is even in the callstack

19:49

maybe a recursive lock?

19:50

can I see the complete callstack?

19:51

doesnt look like a deadlock to me from reading the source 5 seconds

and the other threads?

none is doing anything

CGameConsole::OnRender takes the lock

19:53

so does CGameConsole::CInstance::PrintLine

19:53

the recursive lock is the problem

19:54

so I guess we need to figure out if std::recursive_mutex would fit here

19:54

but no, doesn't seem that way

heinrich5991

CGameConsole::OnRender takes the lock

oh ok

why's there an std::string in the render function :/

19:56

allocations in the hot path

console hot path

19:57

im not sure

20:03

mh TSAN cant detect this deadlock, weird weird

♂S1mple♂

so the problem is this specific font?

For now better don't use it. But it's defs a bug in client and should work

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map by who? i can't read this

(edited)

try /mapinfo

I think this is an unreleased ddmax/oldschool

ah

Merri Flutsch?

21:10

Tlutsch?

you could try to look into the map metadata

21:11

althought that's rarely used

Voxel

Merri Flutsch?

Flutsch could make sense from German pov

maybe