DDraceNetwork - developer

strange feature, takes a lot of space also

i like it

its unused space

00:15

why not have a [x] Preview checkbox at the bottom

ye that's a good idea

heinrich doesnt like togglable features tho (edited)

I don't think that adding a toggle function for this adds burden for maintaining

00:46

becuase both the preview and normal would be maintained anyway if that is to be added

CMassFileLoader FileLoader(client->m_pStorage, IMassFileLoader::LOAD_FLAGS_ABSOLUTE_PATH);
FileLoader.SetOperationFailedCallback([](IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR Error, const void *pUser) -> bool {
    char Message[64];
    switch(Error)
    {
    case IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR_NOT_INIT:
        strcpy(Message, "Not init");
        break;
    case IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR_INVALID_PATH:
        strcpy(Message, "Invalid path");
        break;
    case IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR_DIRECTORY_UNREADABLE:
        strcpy(Message, "Directory unreadable");
        break;
    case IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR_UNWANTED_SYMLINK:
        strcpy(Message, "Unwanted symlink");
        break;
    case IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR_FILE_UNREADABLE:
        strcpy(Message, "File unreadable");
        break;
    case IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR_FILE_TOO_LARGE:
        strcpy(Message, "File too large");
        break;
    case IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR_INVALID_REGEX:
        strcpy(Message, "Invalid regex");
        break;
    case IMassFileLoader::LOAD_ERROR_UNKNOWN:
        [[fallthrough]];
    default:
        strcpy(Message, "Unknown error");
        break;
    }

    dbg_msg("test", "%s", Message);
    return false;
});
FileLoader.SetFileLoadedCallback([](const std::string &ItemName, const unsigned char *pData, const unsigned int Size) {
    dbg_msg("test", "text file found, %d bytes; '%s'", Size, ItemName.c_str());
});

FileLoader.SetPaths("skins");
FileLoader.SetMatchExpression("\\.[Tt][Xx][Tt]$");
FileLoader.Load();

(edited)

01:16

2023-06-04 19:12:36 I test: text file found, 1517 bytes; 'license.txt'
2023-06-04 19:12:36 I test: text file found, 2 bytes; 'test.txt'

(edited)

01:16

nice, it's working

01:18

this is the synchronous implementation, i finish this and replace the existing mechanisms (edited)

01:18

then i make the async and replace that

i can't find a way to intelligently figure out which storage type a path is without manually specifying, and that's kind of cheeks to do for every path

02:02

so i think i will ask that STORAGETYPE_BASIC paths are prepended with : and STORAGETYPE_CLIENT paths aren't

02:02

or some other special character. not too important

02:03

this is how it's done in Qt anyway more or less

ddnet-maps

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

41db3d3 M Nouisification - ddnet-maps

F (@Jupstar ✪)

Jupstar ✪

Firefox dead

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6708 Add logappend setting

To append to log file instead of overwriting it. To use you can create a data/autoexec_client.cfg with:

logfile "client.log"
logappend 1

I'm not sure if it should be the default.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[x] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and ...

Ewan

so i think i will ask that STORAGETYPE_BASIC paths are prepended with : and STORAGETYPE_CLIENT paths aren't

what's STORAGETYPE_BASIC vs STORAGETYPE_CLIENT?

can’t figure out the purpose

12:26

but when i use any of the normal values (TYPE_ALL, etc) ListDirectory from storage fails

ah

basic seems to do paths in the data dirs, client does absolute paths

I think it's the opposite(?)

could be, don’t remember

12:26

not at pc

BASIC is used for tools, it seems

12:26

and CLIENT for the client

interesting

12:27

im hoping to make this thing pretty versatile so breaking a boundary like that doesn’t bother me

the idea is that tools take absolute paths

12:28

because you call them from the command line

12:28

and the client takes relative paths because it wants to load its data

yea

12:29

i could also just make you specify the storage type at the time you add the paths to search through

12:29

though that’s a bit sloppier syntactically

12:30

“:skins”, “/some/absolute/path” turns into {“skins”, STORAGETYPE_CLIENT}, {“/some/absolute/path”, STORAGETYPE_BASIC} (edited)

Mr.Gh0s7

I'll continue working on it tommorow.

it was slow cause I loaded the map every time the preview render was called and not if the selected map filename was changed kek

Jesus

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

07032ab Add logappend setting - def- 3524a8f Merge #6708 - bors[bot]

12:58

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6708 Add logappend setting

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3. Site loads normally

14:46

for me it switches between the 3 outcomes when I do cache override reload (ctrl + shift + r in firefox)

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6709 Fix escape not working in settings menu anymore

The color picker was always consuming the escape hotkey even when already disabled. Regression from #6705 due to changed order of hotkey consumption.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Change...

Patiga

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3. Site loads normally

works for me™

1

15:14

still broken for you?

beans with jam

2

heinrich5991

works for me™

now it also works for me consistently. I had that issue yesterday in the afternoon already

15:23

huh my message in your reply has the enumeration switched out with normal bullet points

i had ddnet org issue too when u wrote it

nice at least I'm not crazy brownbear

do you use dns over https?

15:25

i use cloudflares dns over https on the browser it tested with

ow how do I know?

its a firefox setting

I got it on Use system proxy settings

ah no I don't have that checkmark ticked

GitHub

Click to see attachment 🖼️

ah I thought I was crazy that I couldnt close the menu sometimes

15:28

quick merge

@Jupstar ✪ hook rendering has so many quirks that I'm considering writing a small block post about it

bcs of the hook (physics) itself? or the rendering itself?

maybe I can also find some nice topic to write about twmap some day

15:30

the rendering

what's so quirky about it

15:30

doesnt it simply render the head and then the chains

15:31

i find weapons quirky xD

15:31

they have so many weird extra cases

15:31

players.cpp is a fat whole mess

15:31

everything in one function xD

15:32

the animations, the rendering, the calculatiosn

Jupstar ✪

they have so many weird extra cases

I tried to add weapons to the ghost tee and realized this. not worth it xd

I wanna have a blog post @Patiga

how in game.png it doesn't fit into the atlas segment, how the chain and hook tip are ingame the same length but in game.png the tip is 2x longer, how the chain isn't actually centered (minor) how there is a limit on how many segments are rendered, how hook_x and hook_y in the snapshot are not as useful as they sound and I think I forgot one or two things

ah xd

15:35

0.7 fixed the length thing

15:36

thats why hooks look different there

oh interesting

15:36

I haven't really looked at 0.7 rendering yet, I knew the tees look different but didn't know about the hook

Jupstar ✪

i find weapons quirky xD

context: you might remember that I tried to offload a lot of tee rendering into the shader, as an experiment weapons are definitely also the most complex part there, I actually index into an weapon-information array to get offsets and sizes, also for the hand, and next I still need to do the muzzle flash and HADOKEN (ninja dash)

is your rendering finished?

15:43

does it perform well?

https://gitlab.com/Patiga/twgpu/-/blob/01b5736e5045fd30a4355bbf6c0f8c9e0a077c2d/twgpu/src/tee/tee_shader.wgsl

15:45

I only worked little on twgpu the last month, apart from HADOKEN and muzzle flashes I have the tee rendering finished, after that it should only require atlas rendering of other stuff (ik you don't like atlasses ^^)

15:45

ah right emotes are also missing I guess

15:46

but I enjoy working on it, even if don't spend that much time on it rn

mh u got quite some branches there, i am actually mostly interested in the performance xd

15:46

have u thought about opaque optimizations? rendering from front to back

Jupstar ✪

mh u got quite some branches there, i am actually mostly interested in the performance xd

yea me too, although optimization isn't an actual concern until I feel that I can render 'everything' ^^

15:48

I did think about that a bit, but for me it didn't sound exciting enough to try it out

i thought about it quite often already for tile rendering. on the other hand it will 100% generate more draw calls

This looks insane, right?

so only the GPU profits from this

15:49

and ddnet really isnt very GPU heavy

The pink line is about 400gbps, there is no way the theoretical maximum of a fiber is 10^11 gbps, right?

hm twgpu offloads more work to the gpu

Learath2

The pink line is about 400gbps, there is no way the theoretical maximum of a fiber is 10^11 gbps, right?

i mean, doesn't it depend on the cable

not only tilemap and tees, I also plan to do instance-based rendering for everything else which is rendered as an atlas

Jupstar ✪

i mean, doesn't it depend on the cable

Optical fiber

Learath2

The pink line is about 400gbps, there is no way the theoretical maximum of a fiber is 10^11 gbps, right?

or is this of a single fiber

Single optical fiber

as in a single light beam

15:51

ah ok

Noisy channel, max theoretical bitrate is what I was trying to calculate

well i dunno the data, but plank length * 2 is probably the smallest possible distinguishable signal?

q: if nearly nothing in the ddnet texture atlasses (yea ik there are a few exceptions) touch the borders of the segments, wouldn't it be a okay general fix to just make the borders of each segment transparent manually? most textures should not be affected and a warning could be thrown if the texture was modified. but it would fix the sampling problem of the texture atlas

Patiga

q: if nearly nothing in the ddnet texture atlasses (yea ik there are a few exceptions) touch the borders of the segments, wouldn't it be a okay general fix to just make the borders of each segment transparent manually? most textures should not be affected and a warning could be thrown if the texture was modified. but it would fix the sampling problem of the texture atlas

i guess you know my opinion on that

xd

i really dislike "random" solutions

15:54

or unintuitive

15:55

the funny thing is that there is no GLSL function for this

15:55

directly at least

15:55

just why xD

15:55

it should be so ez to implement

Patiga

how in game.png it doesn't fit into the atlas segment, how the chain and hook tip are ingame the same length but in game.png the tip is 2x longer, how the chain isn't actually centered (minor) how there is a limit on how many segments are rendered, how hook_x and hook_y in the snapshot are not as useful as they sound and I think I forgot one or two things

oh yeah the limit is weird

I agree that it wouldn't be as clean as possible, but I'd currently argue it should be quite subtle, even in cases where something gets modified

https://registry.khronos.org/OpenGL-Refpages/gl4/html/textureOffset.xhtml this is the biggest troll

15:56

why does this exists, but not a "max" offset

hm I don't see how a glsl function has something to do with this, I'm talking about modifying the texture on the cpu

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

6aa03c8 Fix escape not working in settings menu anymore - Robyt3 aea4574 Merge #6709 - bors[bot]

15:57

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6709 Fix escape not working in settings menu anymore

Patiga

hm I don't see how a glsl function has something to do with this, I'm talking about modifying the texture on the cpu

see, if u could do texture(sampler, rect_to_sample_in_texels)

15:57

it would solve all your problems

15:57

u say sample over this rect

15:57

and nothing else

15:57

act as if this rect is a new texture

true

Jupstar ✪

https://registry.khronos.org/OpenGL-Refpages/gl4/html/textureOffset.xhtml this is the biggest troll

and the offset function is that

15:58

but only with an offset

15:58

not an entire rect

15:58

xD

oh interesting

ok i dunno how the edge clamping is used here

but its not that exactly right

15:58

it only 'moves' the origin

Patiga

it only 'moves' the origin

yes but that sounds like it would edge clamp 0, 0

15:59

and if it can do that, it could also do that for max, max

15:59

but i'll look into the spec

The offset value must be a constant expression

hm

"A limited range of offset values are supported"

16:00

still, i don't see why GLSL doesn't implement a function like the rect one

yea that function would be amazing

16:01

does spirv have such a function?

i also couldnt really imagine a performance problem with it

Patiga

does spirv have such a function?

i dunno

16:01

i dont know a lot about it

same, only used it once for that vulkano project ^^

16:02

we found out too late that there is a 'reflect' function xd

i could imagine they dont want it bcs of mipmaps

16:03

for example there is a rectangle texture, which supports smth similar, but doesn't support mipmaps

eh, for most of the mipmaps the uv coordinates could still be used

in a "smaller"/higher mipmap the texel would ofc require less coordinates in total

16:04

but the GPU could not directly access the points

16:04

as texels

yea fair

yeah tbh, thats the reason

16:05

simple as that

16:05

and makes sense too

would that be reason enough? it could still be used for textures without mip-maps and I would imagine there are many valid use-cases

16:06

btw ddnet doesn't do mipmaps for anything but quads/tilemaps, right?

Patiga

would that be reason enough? it could still be used for textures without mip-maps and I would imagine there are many valid use-cases

Yes because u could still implement it your own. And it would have a hidden performance cost

Patiga

btw ddnet doesn't do mipmaps for anything but quads/tilemaps, right?

It uses high quality mipmaps everywhere

16:10

With high quality i mean biased

16:10

Towards quality

I don't think you can implement such a function in a shader

Patiga

I don't think you can implement such a function in a shader

You can

16:11

U can sample neighbour samples using texelfetch

16:11

And sample your own

16:12

But it's a bit of work. But u could probs find shaders online that implement linear sampling

ouch

It's struggle anyway

16:14

Bcs u also need to have cobtrol about the lod

16:14

For mipmap linear sampling

Jupstar ✪

It uses high quality mipmaps everywhere

oop I'm not super familiar with the rendering code yet so I tried to figure it out ingame and managed to get minor flickering so I assumed there are no mipmaps. darn then I'll really need to rethink using atlasses. maybe I'll still go with them to get the first 'working' version out there

Patiga

oop I'm not super familiar with the rendering code yet so I tried to figure it out ingame and managed to get minor flickering so I assumed there are no mipmaps. darn then I'll really need to rethink using atlasses. maybe I'll still go with them to get the first 'working' version out there

gfx_gl_texture_lod_bias set this to 0 and u should™️ have "normal" mipmapping calculations

16:18

u can even set this to 5000

16:18

to have the ugliest game ever

16:18

always restart the game

does it require restarting the game?

16:19

because I just convinced myself setting it to 0 changed stuff without restarting

16:19

but it might've just been my personal lod_bias

Patiga

does it require restarting the game?

yep ^^

lmao

16:21

brains are stoopid

16:23

heh, setting it high is hilarious

16:24

Patiga

does it require restarting the game?

I mean u could easily do it without restarting in Vulkan and gl3.3 but it we also have a tiny shader compiler in ddnet

16:25

And the shader compiler wouldn't recompile it

what do you need the shader compiler for?

16:26

feature detection?

Patiga

what do you need the shader compiler for?

To share some code with old gl versions

16:27

And to add defines

16:27

It's not really a compiler

16:27

More a rewrite xd

ah ^^

16:28

But i called it compiler for flex

Patiga

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Hot

nice :p

16:30

do you generate the mipmaps on the gpu or cpu?

For OpenGL i can't tell

16:31

It's a ogl function

16:31

VK should be gpu

how much of a size decrease would it be if we removed all backwards compat

Voxel

how much of a size decrease would it be if we removed all backwards compat

In what?

16:31

Code, data files?

Code

when remove support for outdated 0.6

Voxel

Code

Half of rendering code, Network code would be much smaller BCS we could rely on external packing . I'd blindly guess 25% of all code minimum

gtg in a min, thanks for the talk @Jupstar ✪ :)

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16:38

one last cheeky question (oh god it got longer): what about array textures instead of atlasses, but with width and height of the maximum segment size. then the textures 1. arent streched, 2. can be easily mipmapped. Had to look it up and I'd estimate > 75% wasted gpu memory space on game.png so no I guess xd

16:39

nice monologue, Patiga

Patiga

one last cheeky question (oh god it got longer): what about array textures instead of atlasses, but with width and height of the maximum segment size. then the textures 1. arent streched, 2. can be easily mipmapped. Had to look it up and I'd estimate > 75% wasted gpu memory space on game.png so no I guess xd

I'd probably prefer that over wrong rendering;)

It works nicely exept for the end of the video where it doesn't clip the contents

Well they wouldn't fix it without stretching tho

I'm probably trying too hard to use instancing and grouping stuff together, but its also fun for me

16:41

oh right, welp

16:41

it was a fine idea until confronted with reality

it is a cool idea

16:42

you just fear multi texturing too much

16:42

except u need this one extension anyway

Mr.Gh0s7

It works nicely exept for the end of the video where it doesn't clip the contents

nice

16:43

u should look into maplayers to see how clipping works

16:44

ok editor probs also clips

Mr.Gh0s7

It works nicely exept for the end of the video where it doesn't clip the contents

u could generally implement this using maplayers

16:44

would save lot of code dublication

16:44

background map also uses it

16:45

u could look how menu_background does it

16:45

it's very ez

k ;)

for clipping u can also change the viewport itself

16:46

we should have support for this

16:46

(i mean clip the whole scene)

16:46

instead of using Clip functions

16:47

oh but maplayers implement a menu rendering code, that could suck

but can be disabled ofc

to improve the usability once you solve the hard issues: add some kind of arrow button on the right side to expand/collapse the preview instead of using a button at the bottom. you could also add a divider in the middle that can be dragged left and right, same how the envelope editor can be dragged up and down

btw have u ever loaded a huge map like arctic festival

16:49

32bit users rip for sure xD

Jupstar ✪

btw have u ever loaded a huge map like arctic festival

I don't think so

and you should disable the editor hotkeys while the file popup is open, it looks like you are scrolling in the editor and preview at the same time

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here's the current code https://github.com/Inateblig/ddnet/commit/7a3980ed36876e09d27def4e62b9ce745e217905

ah, so it's behaving so weirdly because it hooks directly into the editor code...

yeah :/

17:07

now I'm trying to implement it with Jyp's suggestion ;)

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6710 Use real instead of display string for number line inputs

Set input string if it's not identical to the real input string instead of comparing to the display string, which would be incorrect for hidden number inputs.

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[...

Learath2

This looks insane, right?

how is shannon rate computed here?

Chairn

how is shannon rate computed here?

R_b = 2 * R_s * log_2(1 + GSNR * R_s/B_n) this formula really baffles me but it's what's given in the docs for this exercise. R_s is the "symbol-rate of the light-path" and B_n is the noise bandwidth

wtf is symbol-rate of the light-path ?

17:40

B_n is probably more like signal bandwidth

Chairn

wtf is symbol-rate of the light-path ?

I have no idea, this teacher has awful lectures and his work contains all kinds of weird terminology like that

i guess they used the 500THz of light frequency, but it's an error

R_s is 32 GHz, B_n is 12.5GHz

17:41

I'm fairly sure 12.5GHz is the bandwidth of the noise

they should use the bandwidth that they actually use, i.e. something like 499-501 THz, so 2 Thz only

17:42

my formula is B*log2(1+S/N)

The capacity limit I know is R_b = B log_2(1 + gsnr) but I could not figure out what they are doing here and how it relates for the life of me

good, physics laws are still the same over the Alps

Maybe I should just mail the dude

wtf is shannon

very important compsci guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon (edited)

17:44

noise bandwidth is already a weird term imo

17:44

noise has infinite bandwidth

Every single damn course I took in this uni barring the signals one who was courteous enough to upgrade his entire course to more globally used terminology, has used bizarre terminology and weird mistranslated messy material

why are you there btw?

cheapest uni with a degree worth something I could go to

@Learath2 are you happy that you will have forgotten about this course in around 2 years and never need anything of what you learned ever again

gets me outside of turkey aswell so that's a bonus

Jupstar ✪

@Learath2 are you happy that you will have forgotten about this course in around 2 years and never need anything of what you learned ever again

I am so angry that you couldn't begin to understand, but I'm just biting my tongue and just finishing this experience from hell

Chairn

noise has infinite bandwidth

True, what the hell is a noise bandwidth. The fourier transform of WGN is just flat...

are you at M1 level?

I'm guessing M1 is masters, no, I'm a lowly bachelor

you can try to apply to international masters in France

17:53

they'll ask for money, but you can ask for a scholarship

17:54

meanwhile, in France, using Signal can leads you to being trialed as a terrorrist https://www.laquadrature.net/2023/06/05/affaire-du-8-decembre-le-chiffrement-des-communications-assimile-a-un-comportement-terroriste/

I wonder if B_n refers to the equivalent noise bandwidth

Jupstar ✪

would save lot of code dublication

hmm seems hard xD

mh?

18:31

it's ez af

not the code duplication the implemention of the preview which will use the CMapLayers

yeah i also mean that

18:32

menu_background does that already

18:32

it should be <100 lines of code

18:35

i dunno if editor can access client code tho

yeah that was mainly my problem

but its part of the client, so why not

although I could be doing something wrong

The slides have the units wrong...... everything is in gbps so this dude copied gbps to the shannon limit too, it's in bits per second pepeW

bit sliding Chill

Firefox somehow "broke" after updating, the gentoo life

alpha tester

18:56

Patiga

I only worked little on twgpu the last month, apart from HADOKEN and muzzle flashes I have the tee rendering finished, after that it should only require atlas rendering of other stuff (ik you don't like atlasses ^^)

https://jisho.org/search/hadouken

Japanese dictionary search for "hadouken"

1 words found. See the full details ...

18:59

hmmm

heinrich5991

https://jisho.org/search/hadouken

i think hadoken is in ddnet code somewhere

1

its the ninja effect

19:03

the dash

19:04

https://streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Hadoken

Hadoken

The Hadoken (波動拳, Hadōken?, "Surge Fist" or "Wave Motion Fist") is a special attack that originated in Street Fighter. It is often referred to as a "fireball" due to its appearance, despite few...

19:04

i guess matricks is streetfighter fan

19:04

19:06

Apple just announced Apple Vision Pro

19:07

Teeworlds on a new level

nice, they invented VR

sometimes with chat open this happens

nobody has ever done this before

19:09

fokkonaut

sometimes with chat open this happens

at least on this one server (some private server by @cyberFighter

fokkonaut

sometimes with chat open this happens

yeah its some weird glitch with the new SDL/IME stuff

known already?

yes, but i dunno any workaround

oke (edited)

Jupstar ✪

nobody has ever done this before

Are you talking about the microsoft hololens? xDDDD

that was cool, bcs it was minecraft

Lol

19:12

But tbh, Apple did a great job with Apple Silicon

yep

19:13

but useless without good software

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

9ce76a1 Use real instead of display string for number line inputs - Robyt3 23e7d18 Merge #6710 - bors[bot]

19:13

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6710 Use real instead of display string for number line inputs

True, but every architecture is useless without good software

they could stop their ego trip and open up their hardware

But this is how they pay their engineers to be that creative and research this

i'd also love to pay their engineers

then go and buy an apple

sadly they have bad software, else i'd do that

Mhmmm which one? The OS itself or just pieces?

i am not a musician, so there is nothing interesting from apple their OS and drivers are buggy, have bad performance in games so nothing interesting for me

19:18

for a desktop class CPU

19:18

for that money i could buy a 4090 and destroy my electricity bill

Ah I see, true... gaming is not that great, fair enough

fokkonaut

sometimes with chat open this happens

@keb help i noclipped out of a source map

But I guess thats not their main market

tbh i dont even know what their main market is

19:19

probably fanboys with too much money

19:20

Wouldnt say that, but their products work seamlessly mostly

19:20

Never had problems

i mean paying so muhc for video eiditing is probably nothing for everyone

I had a lot of androids before, it was a mess to pair bluetooth

and the "real" rendering happens on cloud servers anyway

Avolicious

I had a lot of androids before, it was a mess to pair bluetooth

interesting, never had problems with that

Avolicious

Wouldnt say that, but their products work seamlessly mostly

ah well phones are not interesting to me tbh

heinrich5991

interesting, never had problems with that

I had a lot of problems with Bose and OnePlus

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Had problems with Google Pay

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Switched to an iPhone some time ago and never had problems at all

besides connecting bluetooth in linux and android is indeed the best for me. on windows i get weird crackeling with my bt headphones. But didnt test on ios tbf

Avolicious

I had a lot of problems with Bose and OnePlus

my headphones are also bose

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well what do you use your phone for?

Jupstar ✪

my headphones are also bose

It was such a mess, always had async audio

music and browsing?

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well what do you use your phone for?

Mostly planning my day, business, talking, music

cyberFighter

@keb help i noclipped out of a source map

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jup when i make my super bloated graphical client im going to you for shader advice LOL (edited)

And quickly share my notes from iPhone to Mac

Avolicious

Mostly planning my day, business, talking, music

yeah, sadly for these tasks 1000€+ is quite a banger xD i could spent that for desktop hardware But if u have the money, it probably the fastest CPU wise

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i'd prefer high refresh and polling rate displays

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so i assume i have to buy samsung :/

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yeah, sadly for these tasks 1000€+ is quite a banger xD i could spent that for desktop hardware But if u have the money, it probably the fastest CPU wise

Its expensive for sure, so think twice before buying. But Samsung isnt better

19:24

paying 1000€ for a Samsung

i might make mockups in an art program if i remember

not my first choice, bcs all my samsung monitors died exactly after warranty died

But its the same with headphones... I only buy BeyerDynamics ( a german company ), but their audio is stunning

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But they also expensive like Apple

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Avolicious

But its the same with headphones... I only buy BeyerDynamics ( a german company ), but their audio is stunning

Are they? I live half an hour from their headquarter and have always loved the fake 15 € BeyerDynamic (superlux hd330) I have had for > 15 years, and keep buying new (original BeyerDynamic) earpads, which are more expensive than the entire headphones. So I thought I should try the originals, I ordered 3 different ones, from 100 to 500 €. And while they were better, it didn't seem worth the money. I noticed that at the low volumes I use for headphones they all sound the same to me anyway. So I came away pretty disappointed, will just keep using my cheap headphones until they break apart

deen

Are they? I live half an hour from their headquarter and have always loved the fake 15 € BeyerDynamic (superlux hd330) I have had for > 15 years, and keep buying new (original BeyerDynamic) earpads, which are more expensive than the entire headphones. So I thought I should try the originals, I ordered 3 different ones, from 100 to 500 €. And while they were better, it didn't seem worth the money. I noticed that at the low volumes I use for headphones they all sound the same to me anyway. So I came away pretty disappointed, will just keep using my cheap headphones until they break apart

I had a few others already and have to say, durability, sound and comfort fits best for me

my <50€ bluetooth headphones worked fine for me

Its heavily opinionated, everyone has other preferences

well there defs is a difference in working fine and having the best audio

I had bad experiences with Logitech for example, their headsets broke after 2.5 months each, had to send them in 3 times in a row

logitech is always cheap af from materials but they are still well designed my first logitech headphones were actually coolest for PC headphones, but the collapsable microphone broke after using it too many times xD

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the mices are great too, but 100% broken after 1 year of teeworlds

After Logitech I switched over to SteelSeries, worked better but still problems at some point. Afterwards switched over to Sennheiser and now stuck with Beyerdynamics

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the mices are great too, but 100% broken after 1 year of teeworlds

Yeah, had the Logitech Performance and Mad Catz

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Mad Catz was fun not gonna lie

19:39

wtf

Hahahahahahaa, it was fun to flash the display and deploy your own custom kernel on it

19:39

I still have it somewhere around

looks a bit unhandy for anything else than gaming xD

Indeed, it was useless because its not mechanic

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Ghosting was like every 2nd keypress

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lmao, but then sell it as gaming keyboard

At this time I dont care about, I wanted the small screen

19:40

It was a bummer, but atleast I had it

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6711 Improve color picker popup in settings (use new popup system, add alpha support, support mouse locking)

Use the popup system ported from the editor to reimplement the color picker popup.

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6712 Fix crash when enabling `dbg_dummies` on running server

The server normally needs to be reloaded to spawn the debug dummies, so this code was not checking if a debug dummy player exists. Decreasing the number of debug dummies while the server is running also causes them to simply not be snapped instead of completely destroying them. For debugging any number of dummies can be useful, so the maximum number of debug dummies is increased to the maximum number of clients. See #6702.

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2be3ecf Add str_toint64_base - Robyt3 dd3dd4e Add PRIX64 define for MinGW - Robyt3 2359e38 Add CLineInputNumber::GetInteger64/SetInteger64, add prefix - Robyt3 351dc88 Disable resolution list box when popup is open - Robyt3 a5f94ec Allow maximum number of debug dummies - Robyt3 4c80af7 Fix crash when enabling dbg_dummies on running server - Robyt3 68ea55e Move DoValueSelector to UI and refactor - Robyt3 ef217b6 Track updated mouse position in UI instead of menus - Robyt3 938c57e Support mouse position locking in menus UI - Robyt3 e50bd4b Add generic color picker popup to UI, add alpha support - Robyt3 b21e98a Use color picker popup for UI color setting - Robyt3 17c0642 Merge #6711 #6712 - bors[bot]

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6711 Improve color picker popup in settings (use new popup system, add alpha support, support mouse locking)

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6712 Fix crash when enabling `dbg_dummies` on running server