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Between 2023-06-03 00:00:00Z and 2023-06-04 00:00:00Z
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☠BlackWolf☠ 2023-06-03 00:56:34Z
@deen
00:56
usa has new location?
santatrollet 1
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:17:40Z
<ChillerDragon> jupsti
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<ChillerDragon> fak we need a who is online section here
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<ChillerDragon> i forgot which setting makes my game not use 100% gpu :justatest:
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gfx_refresh_rate
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any nonzero value
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that’s bot super high
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:19:49Z
<ChillerDragon> but whats jupsti approved value?
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isk
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idk
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Holy shit i can’t type
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:20:52Z
<ChillerDragon> na idk
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<ChillerDragon> even 1000 locked feels weird
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<ChillerDragon> i want back my wonky 480 fps
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<ChillerDragon> ah got it
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<ChillerDragon> idk which settings i just loaded my config tracked in git xd
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<ChillerDragon> it has refresh rate 0
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<ChillerDragon> but still capps me below 500 somehow
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<ChillerDragon> it feels like 17k fps
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<ChillerDragon> but only uses 0% GPU
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<ChillerDragon> its infinite performance glitch settings
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Probably cl refresh rate
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:24:40Z
<ChillerDragon> nah it set to 0
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<ChillerDragon> idk what it is
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<ChillerDragon> but it good
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Notice cl not gfx
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:25:07Z
<ChillerDragon> a
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There are two settings
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:25:21Z
<ChillerDragon> both 0
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Cl makes your mouse input feel like trash lol xd
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:25:45Z
<ChillerDragon> if non 0?
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<ChillerDragon> ye it 0
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Mhh maybe Fullscreen off?
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:25:58Z
<ChillerDragon> desktop fullscreen
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<ChillerDragon> wait
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<ChillerDragon> i was in wrong client xd
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Maybe gnome takes control xd
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:26:42Z
<ChillerDragon> yes its cl refresh rate
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<ChillerDragon> i play with that since forver
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<ChillerDragon> u say it bad for mouse?
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how is a lower cl_refresh_rate better for gpu than a lower gfx_refresh_rate
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:27:37Z
<ChillerDragon> not better for gpu
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<ChillerDragon> better for my perceived game feel
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i have my gfx_refresh_rate on 478 since i was tired of hearing my gpu scream all the time
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why is that better
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:28:37Z
<ChillerDragon> i guess my cpu now bottle necks my gpu
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Yeah there are cycles where no frame is generated now
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Setting gfx only is usually the better option, but feel free to set it as you like
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:30:30Z
<ChillerDragon> u make me nervouse with the mouse thing
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Ewan
why is that better
what's the math
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:30:41Z
<ChillerDragon> but i have been gaming like that for the last few years
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<ChillerDragon> what gfx refresh u set jupsti?
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<ChillerDragon> and why is max 10000 ? xd
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<ChillerDragon> too low
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if u want higher just set 0
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:32:17Z
<ChillerDragon> i wanna cap at 15k
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<ChillerDragon> axaxaxax
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hmm
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:32:30Z
<ChillerDragon> jkjk
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<ChillerDragon> lel nice
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<ChillerDragon> btw ryo thank for nvtop its so cool
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Ewan
why is that better
Because your GPU works less? Xd
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:33:58Z
<ChillerDragon> guess when i switched from cpu cap to gpu cap xd
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that number specifically?
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Ewan
that number specifically?
No
06:34
If it's that number, it's luck
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someone told me to set exactly 478
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:34:27Z
<ChillerDragon> jupsti
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<ChillerDragon> wat gfx rate
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<ChillerDragon> ima switch now
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Ewan
someone told me to set exactly 478
Then he troll
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:34:40Z
<ChillerDragon> for better mouse gaming
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478 = stars align to give u 0 latency
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I'd claim a value over 1000 makes it feel so smooth that any value above won't improve it
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I have 240 Hz monitor tho
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:36:08Z
<ChillerDragon> ok i also went for 1000 and like it
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<ChillerDragon> but its noticiibly more fan noise than my previous 480 fps xd
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Change fan curve
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:36:44Z
<ChillerDragon> dont i need the fan?
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I think I generally target like 60°C
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Or 65
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Passiv cooling is good enough for me then
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:37:28Z
<ChillerDragon> if nvtop is to be trusted i am at 47
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what hz monitor chiller
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:37:41Z
<ChillerDragon> idk metrics are always rigged arent they
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<ChillerDragon> i am back to my 8yr old 60hz one
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Teeworlds uses like 30watt on my GPU and 7 watt on cpu
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:38:08Z
<ChillerDragon> because my new one has weird washing effect xd
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Yeah yeah yeah fuck screens
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u dont need 1000 then i bet
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Xd
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:39:18Z
<ChillerDragon> 666 then?
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<ChillerDragon> yea also feels good
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i have both on 1k
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Epic
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Rip
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Setting cl to anything then 0 sucks imo
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It's just broken af
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@Jupstar ✪ do u think making a shader adding ilumination to the laser rifle shot is hard
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I blame sdl for providing relative mouse mode coordinates without fraction
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:40:57Z
<ChillerDragon> sometimes i wish tw was keyboard only
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they give u x/y and xrel/yrel
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Ryozuki
@Jupstar ✪ do u think making a shader adding ilumination to the laser rifle shot is hard
Mh depends how realistic the illumination should look like
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:41:03Z
<ChillerDragon> controlling the mouse is such a pain sometimes
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Ewan
they give u x/y and xrel/yrel
what more do u need
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A bloom like glow is maybe ok
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rtx laser
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kek
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 06:41:39Z
<ChillerDragon> xd
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<ChillerDragon> sounds nice
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and rtx gun muffles
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Ewan
what more do u need
As said, fraction
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Adding 0,5 to 0,5 is 0
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I don't trust sdl
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sdl isn't doing math on this number it's just directing it to you
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the wm is never keeping mouse pos in a fractional format
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movement deltas same
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I doubt that
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that's just math on existing values
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See: let's say u moved your mouse so much that it moves 1.5 pixels
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What now?
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So u keep the 0.5
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Wm rounds
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Drop it?
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and that's the end
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See, so it rounds more and more
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For every movement it gets
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Not SDL's fault tho lol
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Ewan
Not SDL's fault tho lol
Bro but everyone uses looser windows xd
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On Linux it's ofc fixed
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Because it's gamer os
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I don't think either window system there does anything floaty with mouse
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floatatious, if you will
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bouyant
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Ewan
I don't think either window system there does anything floaty with mouse
It does tho
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Linux uses libinput to get the event from the kernel. Xorg then passes them to windows. I suppose on windows something similar is happening
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Maybe windows direct input also has an api
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Problem is always if they use some fancy as XP routines. Or new ones..
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Not like no mouse hardware manufacturer never faced such a problem
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While making the sensors better and better
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Nowadays directx libraries aren't using WinRT which would be an issue for you, they are using plain COM
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Same old
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Mr.Gh0s7
Linux uses libinput to get the event from the kernel. Xorg then passes them to windows. I suppose on windows something similar is happening
I don't know how it works on wayland but if you want to get mouse movement from 2 mice and each mice to be captured on a different window you need to get the input from libinput and not from the window (on X atleast)
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anyway, never use floats to store results
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winit uses 64-bit floats for relative mouse mode btw
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so they must have thought about why they do so
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sdl2 does not, sdl3 will probably do
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and i hope they use doubles too and not floats xd
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Why u need more than float
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because 32-bit floats are inaccurate
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it's fine
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Jupstar ✪
winit uses 64-bit floats for relative mouse mode btw
winit = rust = good
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ferrisVibe
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Ewan
Why u need more than float
try it out, float a = 0.0f now add 0.001f or smth for 1 minute, do the same with an int (scaled by 1000) i bet the result is completely broken xd
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it is fine tho
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no
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floats are evil
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but it is fine
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floats are evil
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depends on your goal
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floats are also often slower
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except like dividing
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i think some GPUs use fixed point floats (edited)
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i'll only say it is fine regarding mouse movement
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@TsFreddie do u know what a subnormal float is
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TsFreddie
i'll only say it is fine regarding mouse movement
ah, then absolutely not xD
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Jupstar ✪
i think some GPUs use fixed point floats (edited)
That’s an oxymoron
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mouse movement that is different if your FPS change sucks
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Ryozuki
@TsFreddie do u know what a subnormal float is
no but it is fine
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company network blocked tenor apparently, but it is fine (edited)
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tenor has no nsfw
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its the most tame shit
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boomers use it in all apps
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probably china, but it is fine
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whats up with u
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are u fine
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he is in china
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ofc not
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I can not use proxies at work. but it is fine tho
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Ryozuki
are u fine
i'm not fine, but it is fine
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we can use google and youtube just (it is) fine at work, it is generous enough.
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why they have such strict network
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also don't ask me why i'm at work on a saturday
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is it saturday
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Ewan
why they have such strict network
china or company
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i didn't notice
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company
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are they strict tho? if google youtube reddit telegram and discord all worked fine
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I think it is a GFW network still but whitelisted
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but they whitelisted a lot of stuff apparently
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and they missed tenor i guess
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easy site to miss
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very unremarkable
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giphy's weird cousin
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ye giphy works for me
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lol
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btw 32 bit floating numbers are fine
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bcs i have to work with 16 bit floats all the time
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you are floating
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i'm gonna take a nap
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i miss the bemani cn
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which part of it
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Ryozuki
winit = rust = good
You can get sub-pixel mouse coordinates and motion depending on the platform and display scaling. Fixes https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/issues/2999
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so u are right
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winit = rust = best
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i was wrong
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i apologize
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time to switch
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SDL is not good enough for ddnet anymore
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sdl 3 not even out yet >_>
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oh actually winit for windowing would be awesome though
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Ewan
the ppl
paula and tempo etc?
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or nibs
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fish
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i mean....
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we still talk in telegram
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idk where fsh went tho
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ayy i dont have that tho
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im not a drug dealer
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so i dont have telegram
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Catxplosion idk, just get telegram and don't scam ppl
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it's ez
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maybe
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also what's stopping you or anyone from creating a new discord server
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does it have to be nibs'
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justatest
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he is the guy who knows the guys
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well i know three of them who might also know the other ones
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u dont like nibs or what
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nibs is not in my radar
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i don't know where he is that's all
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u want him
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i have him
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do a depth first search on in our DM network and we'll have everyone
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 07:53:24Z
<ChillerDragon> @heinrich5991 your dissector is such a time saver! https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1685778760.png
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<ChillerDragon> was wondering why my implentation confused a connless packet with a control packet
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<ChillerDragon> and duh... control flag is set but TIL connless flag is stronger? lul
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<ChillerDragon> nice annotations very helpful
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 08:53:24Z
<ChillerDragon> !ping
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chillerbot1 BOT 2023-06-03 08:53:25Z
pong
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 08:53:51Z
<ChillerDragon> pog web client bot support
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epic
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pong
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does anyone know a good chain map crate
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looks old
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i want to handle variable shadowing in my lang
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what's chain-map
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and for type inference
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i need to keep the variable in outer scope
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but if im in the inner scope
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i want to get the proper type
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smth like that
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The ChainMap type groups a chain of HashMaps together in precedence order and provides a single, unified view into the values. The semantics for keys are the same as for a HashMap, however the value associated with a given key is the value of that key in the highest-precedence map that contains the key.
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hmm oh well
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maybe simply cloning the hashmap on each scope
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I'm interested in the use case
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maybe a alt name is overlayed hash map?
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maybe DHT uses that
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idk
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i want to like usa3 and its ddos protection but i'm lagging chugging balls rn and me and my dummy are the only players on, across all of usa3
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 10:12:46Z
<ChillerDragon> jupsti u got webchat open?
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<ChillerDragon> oh nvm idk what this was
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<ChillerDragon> anyways webchat got new feature!
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<ChillerDragon> and probably new css bugs xd
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 10:23:04Z
<Jupstar> yo nice, online feature
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<Jupstar> look 99% like discord now 😂
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<ChillerDragon> :)
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<ChillerDragon> for improved stalking
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ugliest type analysis u can find kek
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fn works(x: i64) -> i64 { let z = 0; if 2 == x { z = x * 2; } else { z = x * 3; } return z; } fn main() -> i64 { let y: i64 = 2; let z = y; return works(z); }
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but this compiles lol
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no need to annotate types on the lets on works
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pog
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soon the y: i64 wont be needed too, i just need to handle the function call argument types as source
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 10:44:54Z
<Jupstar> ChillerDragon: quick review
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fn works(x: i64) -> i64 { match x { 2 => x * 2, _ => x * 3, } } dang
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 10:45:23Z
<ChillerDragon> oh no my css broke
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<ChillerDragon> yours too @Jupstar ?
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<Jupstar> yes
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<ChillerDragon> fak
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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ReiTW
fn works(x: i64) -> i64 { match x { 2 => x * 2, _ => x * 3, } } dang
no match support yet in edlang
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 10:45:55Z
<Jupstar> ChillerDragon: i made pr
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Ryozuki
no match support yet in edlang
oh wait tf
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 10:45:58Z
<Jupstar> not for this bug tho
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it's edlang?
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 10:46:11Z
<ChillerDragon> wowo
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<ChillerDragon> pr?
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its my own lang
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My own statically typed compiled language using LLVM. - GitHub - edg-l/edlang: My own statically typed compiled language using LLVM.
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Checklist

  • [X] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresss...
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 10:46:33Z
<Jupstar> ChillerDragon: pull request
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<Jupstar> merge request
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<Jupstar> whatever u want to call it
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<ChillerDragon> pr
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<ChillerDragon> cuz github
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<ChillerDragon> ok i gotta fix this mess asap
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<Jupstar> does your code support hot reload?
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<Jupstar> i used npm run start
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<Jupstar> but sucks to restart every time xD
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<ChillerDragon> me too
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<ChillerDragon> yes
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<Jupstar> ok rip 😂
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<ChillerDragon> there is probably some webpack watch option
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<ChillerDragon> 10s google and u get it xd
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 11:04:43Z
<ChillerDragon> idk why css breaks i say width 100% and its outgrowing its parent even with overflow: overlay;
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overlay is webkit only anyway
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 11:05:57Z
<Jupstar> wait i'll give u command to fix
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<Jupstar> bcs im css pro
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<ChillerDragon> wowo
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<Jupstar> can u quickly update to latest?
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<ChillerDragon> done
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<Jupstar> first of all class message-img profile4: flex-shrink 0
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<Jupstar> so the icon doesnt get ugly xd
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<ChillerDragon> pro
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<ChillerDragon> ur not gonna pr i assume? -.-
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 11:13:52Z
<Jupstar> ChillerDragon: i'll pr
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<Jupstar> gimme a second
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<ChillerDragon> i alr did the shrink
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<ChillerDragon> it deployed too xd
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f2d8bad Fix potential OOB write in CGraphics_Threaded::GetVideoModes - Robyt3 b6cdbfb Remove redundant CImageInfo variable - Robyt3 c3244bd Merge #6697 - bors[bot]
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 11:15:00Z
<ChillerDragon> u so smort @Jupstar so nice without squished icons xd
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<Jupstar> ChillerDragon, can i somehow connect to your IRC offline?
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<Jupstar> i guess it requires a PW or smth xD
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<ChillerDragon> offline?
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<ChillerDragon> connect to which irc wat
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<Jupstar> on my testing env
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<ChillerDragon> doesnt need a pw
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<ChillerDragon> i think
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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<Jupstar> xddd
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<ChillerDragon> nah
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<ChillerDragon> BACKEND_URL='https://ws-irc.zillyhuhn.com'
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<ChillerDragon> put dis in da .env
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<ChillerDragon> or do you want to host your own backend?
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<Jupstar> sadly no work
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<Jupstar> no
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<ChillerDragon> i usually test with offline backend
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<ChillerDragon> maybe the prod doesnt work locally
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<Jupstar> yeah nvm, just merge pr
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<Jupstar> if not work, i do another
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<ChillerDragon> local backend is one more git clone and npm start
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<ChillerDragon> we live
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<ChillerDragon22> still broke
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<Jupstar2> then i did css wrong
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<Jupstar2> xd
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<ChillerDragon22> git clone git@github.com:ChillerDragon/irc-websockets
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<ChillerDragon22> cp env.example .env
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<ChillerDragon22> npm run start
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<ChillerDragon22> 3 cmds for local backend
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<ChillerDragon22> npm install too i guess
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<Jupstar2> ah
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<Jupstar2> didnt see it says env.examle
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<Jupstar2> let me try that quickly
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<Jupstar> perfect
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<Jupstar> new pr should work
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<ChillerDragon> no
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<Jupstar2> it does
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<Jupstar2> for me
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<ChillerDragon> fakof
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<ChillerDragon> chrome`?
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<Jupstar2> firefox issue xD
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<ChillerDragon> i use ff
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<ChillerDragon> fak
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<Jupstar2> gimme a second
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firefox should work too
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did u clear cache?
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 11:24:43Z
<ChillerDragon> STEUREURG+SHIFT+R
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<Jupstar2> i use f12 auto clear cache
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<Jupstar2> let me try on firefox
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<ChillerDragon2> chromium broke too watf
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<ChillerDragon2> u on debian again?
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<Jupstar2> well how small do u have the window?
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<Jupstar2> i guess i need to apply this to other stuff too, to work
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<Jupstar2> i only fixed it for long URLs
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<Jupstar2> which cannot break else
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<ChillerDragon2> wait are we talkinbg about the same issue even? xd
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webhook can set bot name per message i think?
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 11:27:50Z
<ChillerDragon> i have to scroll 10 pages to get the input field
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<ChillerDragon> yea tsfreddie but i dont have a webhook
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Oh is this really a bot
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 11:28:33Z
<Jupstar2> now its broken bcs img too big
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<Jupstar2> discord resizes images
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<Jupstar2> guess a max-width should be applied
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<Jupstar2> but now i'm afk, good luck
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<ChillerDragon> AAAAAAAAa
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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Does video work
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 11:31:17Z
<ChillerDragon> nah
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<ChillerDragon> would be ez tho
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TsFreddie
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Dope video
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TsFreddie
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show VR gameplay 😄
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cuz it is bad
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@TsFreddie wait what did I miss? are you working on vr risk-of-rain? 👀
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legally no
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also it is pretty bad
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it looks like two people made it
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TsFreddie
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woah new teeworlds update looking good
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like are you hired to recreate the whole game?
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nope
11:49
game designer liked ror and just take a part of it
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our enemy is dumber
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progression is shorter
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inventory can be dropped
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expected playtime is like 20 minutes
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cuz it was for location based business
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20 mins for one run, right?
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not a comercial game
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20 min total
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after you are done you can replay but there aren't anything to unlock
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ah, alright
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20 MINUTES TOTAL
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so they just liked the assets and maybe the abilities from ror and yoinked them
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they remade assets that looks like ror
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lol
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oh I wasn't sure
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risk of rain moment
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it was for the stores and paid per run so 20mins are plenty
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teh guitar looked a bit off but since its quite some time since I last played the other stuff like the mushroom looked right
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scratch that, it was paid per minute
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just arcade stuff
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how big is your team?
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two people
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TsFreddie
it looks like two people made it
well this makes sense then :p
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indeed
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which game engine are you using?
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the good old U
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that kind of development sounds kinda fun, although I would assume that its also stressful and maybe not super rewarding
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16-hour work days
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basically
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do you have any free time left? I hope your work week is at least 5 days not 6?
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insane, how do you cope with that?
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Just this two months
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I'll ask for a management role for the next project and down scope a ton (edited)
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you literally don't have time to sleep properly, I'm scared to ask how many hours of sleep you get ^^
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Also we don't work 16 hours during the weekend
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Well during saturday
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iirc you didn't really have a problem finding a job, right? is the payout really big enough to justify the mental and physical burden
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we have been doing 30-hour on sunday straight into monday for the past three weeks
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iirc you didn't really have a problem finding a job, right? is the payout really big enough to justify the mental and physical burden
No but i get to decide what we do
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You don't get that in big companies with plenty of money
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I can see how that is nice, but it really does sound mental to me. I am shocked what you put yourself through, and how your mental state and body manage to cope with that draining schedule. the creative freedom sounds nice, but for me that doesn't make it much less insane ^^ hf on your project, does look nice from the screenshots :)
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TsFreddie
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u create namek
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nice
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didnt know u work for konami
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Huh?
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Fuck konami
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namek is planet in dragonball xd
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blue grass
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Cool
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That's just navmesh
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dare to say fuck dragonball
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TsFreddie
we have been doing 30-hour on sunday straight into monday for the past three weeks
what is even the sense of this? I mean working more hours doesn't mean you are more productive
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i guess u always live near to burn outs don't you?
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It's better than doing 8
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Also i didn't want this if it is not obvious
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yeah, but do they have control over your body?
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would they fire you?
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No but i would be sad
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wtf? lmao
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Also we just want this one to be over sooner
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Next project just gonna be more fun
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copium
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the fun in a project always is a steady decline
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ur initially rly excited
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greenthing but no way I'm doing overtime on the next one
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Cuz I'll be in charge of the total amount of content
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i just hope u have at least a bit of fun
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else u'll hate yourself for wasting so much time
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or payment is top notch xd
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he is trying to convince himself its ok
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ans thats ok
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I earn more than I thought I would be less than I deserve apparently
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copium
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Ryozuki
ans thats ok
this should be it is fine
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you did the thing wrong
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TsFreddie
I earn more than I thought I would be less than I deserve apparently
one serious question. Is living in china whereever you live rn, cheap? Like foot and living and shit?
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im making edlang
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ill soon be famous
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u can wait in line
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brownbear
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one serious question. Is living in china whereever you live rn, cheap? Like foot and living and shit?
i don't eat foot
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idk what count as cheap tho
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food lmao
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i'd say under 200€ is cheap in europe
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if u dont only need noodles and ketchup xd
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I think i have 42% of my salary going into rent and food and bills usually
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8% into ddnet servers
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mhh sounds okish, depending on the salary xd
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TsFreddie
8% into ddnet servers
lmao
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if i don't buy any new toys then i save about 5000cny per month i think?
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usually less than that tho
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cuz I still buy games and stuff which i don't actually play lmao
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mh ok 😄
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:11:08Z
<ChillerDragon> !jup
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chillerbot1 BOT 2023-06-03 13:11:08Z
@Jupstar ✪
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:11:12Z
<ChillerDragon> did css thingies
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pong
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:11:16Z
<ChillerDragon> can u check if urs broke?
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<Jupstar2> brah
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<ChillerDragon> bad? xd
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<Jupstar2> why is there hori scrollbar again
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bcs css
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:11:39Z
<ChillerDragon> i have none xd
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<Jupstar2> always use overflow: auto
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<Jupstar2> never overflow:scroll
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<chromeuser> oh boi
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<chromeuser> okay i got no sideway scroll on chromium now
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<Jupstar2> that will also create one on firefox tho
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<chromeuser> unless my windows size is so smoll it cant word wrap the long git remote
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<yeeti222222222222222> @Jupstar2 for u all good now?
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<Jupstar2> its ez fix tho
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<yeeti222222222222222> i fixed too big images
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<ChillerDragon> ops wrong tab xd
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<Jupstar2> .message-text { overflow-wrap: anywhere }
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<ChillerDragon> didnt u do that?
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<Jupstar2> we can remove it for a
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<Jupstar2> i only did for URLs
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<Jupstar2> but ofc it should work for all text that is unlimited lenght without space
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<chromeuser> nice
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<chromeuser> ok next is yeeti22222222222 username wrapping xd
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<WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> UwU
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<Jupstar2> xdd
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<ChillerDragon> wrap/cap/chop usernames?
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<Jupstar2> well do for message-author too
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<ChillerDragon> wrap?
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<Jupstar2> or just do it globally
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<Jupstar2> * { overflow-wrap: anywhere }
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<ChillerDragon> eeee
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<ChillerDragon> i dunno xd
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<ChillerDragon> u sure?
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<Jupstar2> why not
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<ChillerDragon> because it might have funny side effects that break my brain later
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<ChillerDragon> ok ill try
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<Jupstar2> well keep this in mind: "overflow-wrap will only create a break if an entire word cannot be placed on its own line without overflowing."
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<Jupstar2> if u ever see text wrapping unintuitively, it's probably this setting
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<Jupstar2> well ok
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<Jupstar2> it has the sideeffect that it will break text :D
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<Jupstar2> if u dont want this somewhere it sucks ofc
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are you guys working with plain css
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:24:36Z
<Jupstar2> yeah we coool 1999 gang
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<ChillerDragon2> ofc
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ha, funny
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:24:45Z
<ChillerDragon2> everything else is bloat
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<Jupstar2> here our website: https://badhtml.com/
With this website we want to teach you the best web design practices to avoid Bad HTML. Find here everything you need to know to build the most user-friendly website ever!
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<WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> wrappin
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<WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1685798724.png
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<WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> lgtm
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stable af
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:25:55Z
<ChillerDragon2> 1px smaller
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not even mobile screens are so small xD
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:25:57Z
<ChillerDragon2> it scroll
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<ChillerDragon2> due to images i think
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<Jupstar2> without F12, i cannot even make it so small
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<ChillerDragon2> ok then fine enough i guess
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<ChillerDragon2> u satisfied mr chromium user?
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<Jupstar2> yes
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<Jupstar2> thanks for caring
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<ChillerDragon2> pog
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<ChillerDragon2> thank for using
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chromium 🤢
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:27:04Z
<ChillerDragon> wot u usin voxel?
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<ChillerDragon> opera?
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<ChillerDragon> safari?
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<ChillerDragon> ladybird?
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<Jupstar2> he uses firefox
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:27:18Z
<ChillerDragon> FOREFIX
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I WOULD NEVER TOUCH OPERA HELL NO
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:27:29Z
<ChillerDragon> xd
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<Jupstar2> fire_needs_fix
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<ChillerDragon> rude
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what about IE9
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:27:43Z
<ChillerDragon> jupsti imoster confirmed
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<ChillerDragon> real jupsti has no 2
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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i use lynx
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:28:01Z
<Jupstar> yeah, dont trust this imposter
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<ChillerDragon> the user list so nice
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opera gx worst browser
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:28:08Z
<ChillerDragon> i can see u pop in and out
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<Jupstar> gotta test is servo can render this website xD
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isn't opera chromium now?
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:28:28Z
<Jupstar> then i can say, i use rust
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<ChillerDragon> wats servo
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TsFreddie
isn't opera chromium now?
yes
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:28:36Z
<Jupstar> its browser engine in rust chilller
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<ChillerDragon> oo
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Servo is an independent, modular, embeddable web rendering engine written in Rust
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<ChillerDragon> virus
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<Jupstar> probably
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<Jupstar> it's bianry only
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servo in ddnet
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:29:24Z
<Jupstar> bcs static linking
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firefox is so goated you can import all your chrome settings into it and then uninstall chrome forever
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:29:28Z
<Jupstar> bcs rust best
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that description just looks like a bunch of buzzwords
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:30:04Z
<ChillerDragon> but if nobody is sending their data to google with chrome browser google goes bankrupt
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man i shouldn't have gone home
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it's so hoooooooot
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:30:15Z
<ChillerDragon> if google bankrupt who gonna fund firefox xd
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% ./servo https://ddnet.org thread 'main' panicked at 'Can't read file: Os { code: 2, kind: NotFound, message: "No such file or directory" }', ports/winit/resources.rs:79:24
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stable af
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Voxel
that description just looks like a bunch of buzzwords
its legit
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and actually
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servo stuff was added to firefox
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yeah it's legit
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rust is a thing thanks to mozzilla and firefox
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but it's insanely unstable
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rust exists cuz servo
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and the layout system is still far from correct 😄
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servo used to point out missing stuff in rust
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and it had prio
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i really hope there will be a rust only browser engine some day
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then ppl begin to make it usable as lib
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then u can include it without javascript
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servo was initially a mozilla project
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anywhere
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then world is perfect
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but mozilla is a bit dumb and fired ppl
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:32:18Z
<ChillerDragon> ryo smorter than mozilla ceo
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some times, during night, mozilla ceo calls ryo and asks for help
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mozilla is goated
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imo
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it's good, but still google sponsored
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actually
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and somehow even on linux, firefox can show ads in firefox on the default page
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microsoft wants to dig
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they offered mony to make bing first
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i just hope firefox just uses this to get more money with the google deal
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google pays to be the default search
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and firefox is too backward focused too often
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it's like with gimp everyone respects them, but it sucks
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@fokkonaut has improved his server!
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firefox cant be first market share cuz ur fighting google corporate
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they got advert mony
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power
@fokkonaut has improved his server!
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@fokkonaut congrats on improving your server
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:35:37Z
<ChillerDragon> @power ?
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<ChillerDragon> gz
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ws-client
<ChillerDragon> @power ?
Hiho chillpups
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:35:52Z
<ChillerDragon> kys powa
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Ryozuki
@fokkonaut congrats on improving your server
xD
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:35:56Z
<ChillerDragon> ah shit pls no ban heinrich
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go fokko!
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what did fokko do
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<ChillerDragon> kys powa
@heinrich5991
🤓 5
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Voxel
what did fokko do
He HASNT give me my role yet
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But improved some ping or whatever
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see #questions
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who r u
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He's trolling
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power
He HASNT give me my role yet
i dont think you dont deserve a role
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Ryozuki
who r u
Who r u come 1on1
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:36:58Z
<ChillerDragon> powa is braindamaged blchill bloxa
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im Ryozuki
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Voxel
i dont think you dont deserve a role
Ty
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Ryozuki
im Ryozuki
Oh well nice to meet you, have a good day!
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power what browser do you use
13:37
important
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ChillerDragon, me trying not to get banned by heinrich later, right now
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:37:59Z
<ChillerDragon> xd
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ur already on the very edge
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:38:23Z
<ChillerDragon> yes i very edgy
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<ChillerDragon> but its powa
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<ChillerDragon> i cant
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<ChillerDragon> not insult him
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wtf edge user
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:38:39Z
<ChillerDragon> eee
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<ChillerDragon> nononono
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<ChillerDragon> eventho
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<ChillerDragon> i gotta say
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<ChillerDragon> edge underrated
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<ChillerDragon> ms underrated in general
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Voxel
power what browser do you use
@power
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<ChillerDragon> but its powa
!peace ChillerPoop
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:38:58Z
<ChillerDragon> top10 pog stonks companies
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"kys" "braindamaged", good like explaining that to heinrich
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:39:09Z
<ChillerDragon> yea..
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i am braindamaged its ok
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LMAO
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:39:20Z
<ChillerDragon> i keyboard slpiied
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Voxel
@power
I refuse to answer at this point
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@power this is a developer channel, its important to know what browser you use
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What browser does Heinrich use
13:40
I use same one
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:40:21Z
<ChillerDragon> xd
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Ok I go eat ice cream now bb have a good day all!
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(powa uses google chrome)
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i think it's internet explorer
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@heinrich5991 and pls ban chillerpaps
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:41:02Z
<ChillerDragon> fakof powa
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power
@heinrich5991 and pls ban chillerpaps
absolute dickrider
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omfg
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Voxel
absolute dickrider
You have no idea
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grow a spine!
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i am happy i am not the one swearing in #developer today, good luck voxel and zilera!
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ill stop
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xDDD
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@Shiro hi
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:42:32Z
<ChillerDragon> !jup nice smooth minecraft with 32 chunk render dist
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chillerbot1 BOT 2023-06-03 13:42:32Z
@Jupstar ✪
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:43:29Z
<ChillerDragon> i mean as smooth as this bugged java bloat can get..
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fokkonaut
i am happy i am not the one swearing in #developer today, good luck voxel and zilera!
its ok cuz their nick isnt Ryozuki or fokkonajt
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 13:49:06Z
<ChillerDragon> bias
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true
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pog
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first time ever i got this
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too bad it's a release build
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2023-06-03 16:20:52 I textrender: Found non empty text container with index 198 with 6 quads 'Team 1'
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there was a team 1 on the server
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and they killed quite often refering the demo
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but the kill message was not visible at the end of the demo
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so either it just got in, or it was the previous one
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3-4 seconds before
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wtf xD
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i think i just found an unrelated bug
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if i join team 2 and then team 1 directly after it, it says "you cant change team so quickly" all fine i try /team 1 for like 5 times again, until the message timeout is over then it says "you are already in this team" but the client thinks i'm not
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also you can invite yourself to the same team
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lmao
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high quality
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why is this fcking bug so impossible to reproduce 😭
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IMPOSSIBLE
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sweeting hard, bcs reproduce tryhard
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LOL WHY IS THAT SO FUNNY
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WTF
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when i resize for a long time i loose FPS but we dont have a memory leak
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its not increasing any RAM
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WTF going on here xd
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Jupstar ✪
IMPOSSIBLE
justatest
14:51
wtf
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vram also looks fine
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conditional window resize via OS?
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maybe snapping?
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no i mean
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i resize very often like in the video
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then i stop and my fps decreased
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permanetely xD
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Ahm, is it tied to the mouse being on one of the size options? does it trigger whenever the mouse it over it?
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i cannot imagine this for a different reason than memory leaks
14:52
makes 0 sense in my head xD
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Cellegen
Ahm, is it tied to the mouse being on one of the size options? does it trigger whenever the mouse it over it?
the video is intended btw
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i tried to reproduce a bug 😄
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i control the resolution with keyboard
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when i resize for a long time i loose FPS but we dont have a memory leak
@Learath2 explain logic to me
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no RAM or VRAM leak, 100%
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is this some weird af processor cache thing or smth?
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Ok, what I see in the video is: You gain focus on windowed client You click on a resize option You probably lose focus because of that, but the client uses global position on mouse When clicked on resize option, the mouse probably didn't confirm that you let go off of the left mouse button, since you lost focus And every time the global mouse position based cursor passed through a resized option, it resizes it, making it more broken
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it wont stop until i restart ddnet
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I can be wrong and it's not related to focus at all
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Cellegen
Ok, what I see in the video is: You gain focus on windowed client You click on a resize option You probably lose focus because of that, but the client uses global position on mouse When clicked on resize option, the mouse probably didn't confirm that you let go off of the left mouse button, since you lost focus And every time the global mouse position based cursor passed through a resized option, it resizes it, making it more broken
bro
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as said
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the resize is not a bug
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i do it with keyboard xD
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i try to reproduce a bug
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that happens on resize
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This, with keyboard? bruh
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yeah i was full tryhard
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Ah. did you use the up and down button to nagivate in the resize options?
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If so, then using that kind of navigation automatically rechange the size and doesn't require Enter or any sort of confirmation
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LMAO³³³³ i resized it now by clicking the edge of the window for a few seconds, now my mouse won't snap into the windows anymore
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KDE bad af
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very disappointed
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big bugfix pr by jup incoming
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it's funny how buggy a WM/driver/whatever can be, if u don't use it intended
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@Learath2 btw i think its just some x11,kde,driver bug
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anything else makes no sense xd
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@Learath2 explain logic to me
Hm, well I don't have a good theory for it except leaking stuff, so if that's out of the question, I'd profile it before the resize and after the resize
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I mean some call has to be taking longer, no other way to get less fps
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i'll report to KDE, lets see what they'll answer
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just annoying that they all have their own gitlab instance
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and i forget about accounts
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It's probably obvious enough in even a sampling profiler so might not be the hardest thing to try
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Just get a debug build and grab some samples with perf
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mh true
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but if its outside of ddnet?
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what profiler should i use then
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Still it should be a call we do taking longer, no? I can't think of any other way an external thing can pace us
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Somewhere we call into maybe the driver or sdl and it hangs, leading to less fps
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Then you know which vendor to shout at 😄
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sad that there are no good profiling tools that can do anything at least i dont know any xd
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Wym by can do anything?
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I've had a lot of luck with perf on linux. Lots of control over the sampling and what is sampled
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You can sample the stack, you can sample cpu counters
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i'll try, i think i used it once
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but it doesnt generate fancy ass reports like valgrind's callgrind
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It has it's own tool to browse around in the report, which can indeed get a bit janky
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@Learath2 but u can use perf so it samples exactly when i tell it too?
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like there is some control tool, like callgrind_control?
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You can attach to a pid, make it probe at say 97hz for 10s for 9700 samples and it'll detach
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ah nice
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Since it doesn't instrument the code it doesn't need special stuff to control
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probably some state somewhere that changes after resizing leading to a different code path
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could also be hardware related at the gpu level
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once you resize, it changes some stuff at the hardware level and doesn't fall back until the gpu is released
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who codes like that 😂
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uhhhhhhhh
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wait this is gpu stuff nvm
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mh more kernel calls xd
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libxcb, libx11
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i blame x11
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changing screen mapping looks funny too
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interesting how text fills the allowed space differently (edited)
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depending on the font size it used
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EPIC
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nice
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it's reproducable
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voxel i blame u
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its defs killmsgs
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😬
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listen im a graphic designer not a low level programmer ‼️
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yeah yeah chill, if it's so hard to reproduce then it's design flaw somewhere else 😄
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all i know is how to do if statements and what i see in the same code file
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someday ill make something that doesnt break ddnet and ppl actually like it (edited)
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bruh
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he set the fish on fire
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its defs killmsgs
It happened to me though in fng which doesn't have the new killsmsgs
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jup, but maybe u were on ddnet server before
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only fng ;) but could be because I was on dfng ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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its also just reproducable with team kill msgs
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they are not alone the cause
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sadly our cmake is so bloated with different linkers that i currently struggle to compile the game so that it doesnt suck to use with backtrace linux calls
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make it less bloat troll
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past me helped me out
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past self = best self ;)
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LOL
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the bug is so fck obvious
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so obvious af
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0 IQ
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0 best number ;)
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what was the obvious bug
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i'll show soon, wanna check whom to blame
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I'll try to find it cause 0 best number 👻 🎩
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@Jupstar ✪ you fucking loser
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you're blaming YOURSELF?
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@Jupstar ✪ noob
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Fixes #3429 Also made it a bit safer by checking what the server sends Checklist Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination with possibly relat...
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this is the reason
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learn2code
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troll
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so its potentially broken since 2020
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but its triggered mostly bcs of voxels code
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😂
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@Voxel your fish is fine
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@Voxel if u wouldnt have copy pasted u'd have noticed
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😂
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but im too dumb not to
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it made sense when i looked at it ‼️
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fixes #5143 also reverted the hacks. i guess we can keep 493f47515c556472f3d009e18b47655e2f8ba9fb for now, it at least gives a hint to find such stuff we should also release a new patch version with this

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well at least this nightmare is over now
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😂
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found new x11 bugs in the meantime
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:02:17Z
<ChillerDragon> omagawd @Jupstar ✪
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<ChillerDragon> i made !jup obsolete pog
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<ChillerDragon> u can now do @j<tab>
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EPIC
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but also no more ! rust :(
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!rust really?
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chillerbot1 BOT 2023-06-03 17:04:36Z
@Ryozuki
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Jupstar ✪
mh more kernel calls xd
Is this before and after resize or before and during resize?
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Learath2
Is this before and after resize or before and during resize?
the one with many calls to kernel is after resize
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chillerdragon
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Learath2
Is this before and after resize or before and during resize?
before and after
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do u know if fokkos server doesnt allow vanilla 0.6 clients to connect
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basically
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Intriguing I think I'll do a couple of my own, see if it happens on my system too
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:06:56Z
<ChillerDragon> @cyberFighter
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<ChillerDragon> i can ping back now!
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Intriguing I think I'll do a couple of my own, see if it happens on my system too
epic
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:07:23Z
<ChillerDragon> @cyberFighter yes i know and no it does not
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<ChillerDragon> only ddnet masterrace
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fuc then
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:07:48Z
<ChillerDragon> ur bot client vanilla based?
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no the 12 year old pc
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:07:57Z
<ChillerDragon> it allows vanilla 0.7 :p
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hmm maybe I have -1 IQ :(. I want my 0 though ;).
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:08:07Z
<ChillerDragon> run ddnet on the 12 y old pc
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:08:14Z
<ChillerDragon> im serious
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<ChillerDragon> runs fine probbaly
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maybe i can run some old ass ddnet version
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with old libraries
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:08:30Z
<ChillerDragon> u still running ubunt 1999 ?
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yes
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:08:38Z
<ChillerDragon> why
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<ChillerDragon> delete it alr
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too lazy
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:08:49Z
<ChillerDragon> !
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<ChillerDragon> then use your main pc instead
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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not home
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:09:18Z
<ChillerDragon> travelfita
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troll troll
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:09:28Z
<ChillerDragon> send pic
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<ChillerDragon> of ur pc
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when i get the will to do it im gonna adk jup for help on how to add in shader type rendering into ddnet because i wanna do some fun things
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chillerdragon:
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:10:43Z
<ChillerDragon> nice
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<ChillerDragon> u got a usb @cyberFighter?
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the house looks like those backrooms images lmao
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<ChillerDragon> u got a usb @cyberFighter?
ping fail + what images
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:11:38Z
<ChillerDragon> @cyberFighter better pinger?
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what usb*sry brainfart
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ye it works
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:11:51Z
<ChillerDragon> pog
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<ChillerDragon> e
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<ChillerDragon> usb for pc
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<ChillerDragon> drive
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<ChillerDragon> flash drive thingy
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no flash drive
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:12:22Z
<ChillerDragon> hm
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i mean i can use my phone i guess
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troll
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:12:33Z
<ChillerDragon> to install linux?
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<ChillerDragon> eh idk
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idk if it can even run new ubuntu
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:13:00Z
<ChillerDragon> ye ye
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<ChillerDragon> linux is very pog vor ancient hardware
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<ChillerDragon> VOR!?
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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i played fng and the fps is the same as those old videos on youtube
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:13:56Z
<ChillerDragon> wot?
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<ChillerDragon> i thought tw was already smooth 12 y ago
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<ChillerDragon> what specs u got?
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20 fps is smooth?
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:14:21Z
<ChillerDragon> no
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<ChillerDragon> just buy usb stick and a 4090 and run some new archlinux
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lmfao
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send money
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:15:11Z
<ChillerDragon> send nudes
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im 16
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:15:20Z
<ChillerDragon> yikes
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chiller is over party
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:15:49Z
<ChillerDragon> good thing heinrich is asleep
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i legit think heinrich is in asian timezone
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oh
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he is active
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nvm
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:16:09Z
<ChillerDragon> sherlock ryo again
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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but either he is awake at 4am always or he is in asia
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it takes not big brain
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:16:35Z
<ChillerDragon> 🧠
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or maybe america?
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i kinda forgot how much ass vanilla 0.6 is
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:16:51Z
<ChillerDragon> rude
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:16:53Z
<ChillerDragon> its nice
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so many qol features in ddnet
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hi enrich
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:17:02Z
<ChillerDragon> also true
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@ChillerDragon @Voxel please no insults ..
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he is typing
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:17:09Z
<ChillerDragon> ah shit
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hi o/
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:17:11Z
<ChillerDragon> we woke him
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(and bloat)
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:17:15Z
<ChillerDragon> :justatest:
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the emote doesnt work
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:17:27Z
<ChillerDragon> works for me :p
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im a good tee 😇 i would never
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(ok)
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:17:48Z
<ChillerDragon> bu ye @Ryozuki i should use the discord magic thingies to send it to u
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chillertroll
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:18:11Z
<ChillerDragon> can u send me the magic emote string again?
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chillerdragon when next map rls
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:18:21Z
<ChillerDragon> blchill?
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on ddnet
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:18:30Z
<ChillerDragon> o
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<ChillerDragon> when ddnet moves map testing to non discord again
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<ChillerDragon> blchill?
fun map to explore until u realise like 90% of the map is useless
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:19:11Z
<ChillerDragon> wait wat
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<ChillerDragon> u want to release BlmapChill on ddnet?!
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no
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:19:27Z
<ChillerDragon> xd
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i mean im not saying im against it
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:19:40Z
<ChillerDragon> what is a fun map then?
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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yk i wonder why are there blocker maps but no way to submit new ones
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look at the maps that get insta declined in submit maps
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then think of that but amplified x10
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:20:39Z
<ChillerDragon> a
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and that would be block map submits
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i saw someone try and submit one lolol
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:21:04Z
<ChillerDragon> there are less block map mappers tho
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turkish people:
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russian people:
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i want to make a blocker map thats actually fun to play
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:22:05Z
<ChillerDragon2> @Voxel there is one block map that is more than fun to play
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<ChillerDragon22> its literal crack
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i want to make a blocker map thats actually fun to play
fun is subjective feelsbadman
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:22:32Z
<ChillerDragon222> objectivley the best map in all history of gaming
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<ChillerDragon22> its literal crack
if it starts with a fokkos and ends with a playground then im not interested
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troll
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chillerdragon when the map doesnt have poop shidfard mega 5 jumps and taser
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:22:54Z
<ChillerDragon> thats neither a map nor what i am talking about
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ok then what
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hes talking about the drug
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:23:19Z
<ChillerDragon> its the map Unstable by Tee 3D
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oh
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unstable like fokkonauts code i get it
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<ChillerDragon> inhuman perfection
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chiller will u use edlang once its usable
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:24:37Z
<ChillerDragon> no
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<ChillerDragon> :p
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oh yuck
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i need a mascot
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ideas
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rust is a crab
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:24:50Z
<ChillerDragon> your face
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WHAT IS THAT
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maybe i should name it iron
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use your shitty ai gemerated rust chan image LOL
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my lang is not rust
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:25:21Z
<ChillerDragon> but iron
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chillerdragon tee 3d sure was cooking... i AINT eating THO!
🔥 1
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:25:42Z
<ChillerDragon> it good map trust me
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<ChillerDragon> nothing better will ever come
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harvard called.. it said wrong number 🌊🌊🌊🌊
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can u host it
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lmfao
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I'll continue when I am back 0 best id ;)
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chiller im hopping on ur server
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... i think its your server
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:27:19Z
<ChillerDragon> it trap
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:33:07Z
<ChillerDragon> go leak greenthing emote
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this is your new mascot @Ryozuki his name is edwig
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he is Trustworthy and Very Skilled at Edlang
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man this is so funny. After knowing the bug and doing refactoring what you did to reproduce the bug, I now notice how often I was close to getting the idea behind the bug. Yet my brain decided to try a different thing first, ignoring the almost obvious xD
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chillerdragon: whats chidraqul
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  • I wondered what happens if invalid killmsgs are generated
  • I wondered why we use a temporary object (which caused the bug)
and so on D:
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:38:48Z
<ChillerDragon> @cyberFighter text based 2d platformer
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huh
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unrelated but what is codecov
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<Jupstar> ChillerDragon, does it show all Discord ppl that ever wrote?
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unrelated but what is codecov
code coverage, checks how much of the codebase our tests cover
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:39:23Z
<Jupstar> Can it also show the #tag
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<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar no
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at that point just make doom with text in ur server chillerdragon:
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:39:39Z
<ChillerDragon> it only adds the ones it has in backlog
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code coverage, checks how much of the codebase our tests cover
ohh so only 27 of the code is tested? LOL
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:39:55Z
<ChillerDragon> they are added in the frontend so all messages you see its authors get tracked
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<Jupstar> but at least <tab> works for discord ppl
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<Jupstar> nice
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<ChillerDragon> yes
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<ChillerDragon> very pog
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ohh so only 27 of the code is tested? LOL
i even doubt that tbh
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tests can be bad too xD
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:40:34Z
<ChillerDragon> what do you mean by hastag?
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ohh so only 27 of the code is tested? LOL
Yes, higher the better, I find the 100% target by modern projects a little too anal, but yes. Since we added tests afterwards our coverage is fairly low
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Newfangled projects will do "test driven development", that means every PR must come with a test for it
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Well technically you'll first write the test, then develop the feature. So the PR thing is more a result, but whatever, same difference
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:43:50Z
<ChillerDragon> > Can it also show the #tag
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<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar
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<ChillerDragon> wat does that mean?
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<Jupstar> discord tag
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<ChillerDragon> whats that
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<ChillerDragon> a
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<ChillerDragon> aaa
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<ChillerDragon> the number
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Ryozuki#2188
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yeah
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:44:29Z
<ChillerDragon> this info doesnt arrive on irc
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discords gonna remove the numbers soon
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ah right
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finally
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trash system
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i didnt think so tbh
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easier to scam people
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xd
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deen#6969
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:45:31Z
<ChillerDragon> legit
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cant wait for my name to be taken so i have to be @/voxeldoesart2763
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also cant wait for the discord username black market
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 17:51:45Z
<Jupstar> ChillerDragon: quick merge
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<ChillerDragon> okok
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<ChillerDragon> deployed
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<Jupstar> puh almost died bcs of the white ones
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<Jupstar> xd
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<ChillerDragon> yes fair
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<ChillerDragon> they ugly af in chromium
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<Jupstar> ikr
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<Jupstar> windows 98
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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<ChillerDragon> ok soon this shit is as bloated and slow and bugged as discord
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<ChillerDragon> amazing
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<Jupstar> tru
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<Jupstar> increase compression ratio in webpack
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<ChillerDragon> does that help?
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<Jupstar> i dunno if that even exists
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<Jupstar> but lets rewrite it in rust
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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<ChillerDragon> eee
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<ChillerDragon> uff
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<Jupstar> wasm is fast af
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<Jupstar> when loading
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<ChillerDragon> i was told wasm is slow af
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<ChillerDragon> if only thing u do is query selector stuff i do
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<Jupstar> from benchmarks its bit faster than JS
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<ChillerDragon> because its just overhead to js
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<Jupstar> but sadly interacting with DOM requires JS anyway
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<ChillerDragon> yes
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<ChillerDragon> that
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<Jupstar> yeah, but its still the fastest in the west
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<ChillerDragon> so we would have to properly not use the dom
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<ChillerDragon> and no html and css
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<ChillerDragon> just draw some webgl stuff idk
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<ChillerDragon> but i dont know shit about it
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<Jupstar> your gaming pc
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<Jupstar> vs my 1999 PC
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<Jupstar> lets see who wins
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<Jupstar> collision: JavaScript: 293.8800 WebAssembly: 285.7200
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<Jupstar> fibo: JavaScript: 617.9400 WebAssembly: 271.3800
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<Jupstar> lmao
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<Jupstar> wtf javascript doing
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<Jupstar> imagconvolute: JavaScript: 34.0000 WebAssembly: 25.1600
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<ChillerDragon> takes so long
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<ChillerDragon> i rq
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<Jupstar> xd
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<Jupstar> in most wasm wins
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<ChillerDragon> Fibonacci Result (average [ms]) JavaScript: 844.8000 WebAssembly: 185.6000 JavaScript/WebAssembly: 4.5517
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<Jupstar> but there were a few where JS wins
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<Jupstar> 😂
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<Jupstar> FIREFOX
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<ChillerDragon> doing dom stuff i guess
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<Jupstar> 😂 😂 😂 😂
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<Jupstar> slower than my PC
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<Jupstar> how does it feel chiller?
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<ChillerDragon> normal
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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<Jupstar> but wasm great results
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<Jupstar> i think ff and chrome uses both the same wasm runtime?
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<Jupstar> i cant remember
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<ChillerDragon> isnt every browser using v8 under the hood these days?
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<Jupstar> but they were similary fast
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<ChillerDragon> why is ff js slower?!
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<Jupstar> i dunno, firefox does its own, doesnt it
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<ChillerDragon> this "benchmark" is random number generator anyways
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<ChillerDragon> and mining bitcoin under the hood
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<Jupstar> hehehe
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<ChillerDragon> can u send a discord video again?
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<ChillerDragon> who sent earlier tsfreddie?
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<ChillerDragon> watever can anyone send any vid
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i send one too
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let me resend my struggle
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<hello222> how big u want em?
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it's fine, but the aspect ratio looks wrong
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:04:40Z
<ChillerDragon> they gonna add scroll again xd
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<ChillerDragon> yes it wrong
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<hello2222> better
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:05:42Z
<ChillerDragon> webdev is free
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no challenge
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:05:57Z
<ChillerDragon> ye
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<ChillerDragon> i love it
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..for servers with the new ddnetlaser. Tested this locally and on Fun server, and seems to work. Also adjusted the criteria for when to send the original dragger id slightly, to improve prediction in some edge cases when going through solo/unsolo while being dragged.

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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:08:27Z
<ChillerDragon> lmao nice video @Jupstar ✪ xd
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<ChillerDragon> now i just need my own cdn to get rid of discord ip grabber links and allow file uploads
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:10:04Z
<ChillerDragon> this video tag might be an actual game changer
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do u know <object> ?
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:10:24Z
<ChillerDragon> i never watched any videos in this channel because it always downloaded them if i click the link unlike images that just show
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<ChillerDragon> no?
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it allows to put basically anything the browser supports into it
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PDFs
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and shit xD
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:10:41Z
<ChillerDragon> woah
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<ChillerDragon> as binary? xd
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nah xd
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browser must support it
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ah
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:11:12Z
<ChillerDragon> browser supports binary
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sry missread
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BASE64
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or URL
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GitHub
Click to see attachment 🖼️
possible good update?
f3 1
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 18:48:29Z
<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar ✪ u know which settings affect tabbing? seems like i broke it once again xd
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<ChillerDragon> alt+tab does nothing only atlt+tab and alt+tab again
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<ChillerDragon> and alt+^ doesnt work at all
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wat
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:03:11Z
<ChillerDragon> if i press alt+tab once it just opens the tabin menu if i release nothing happens
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<ChillerDragon> if i want to switch between two instances with altr+^ nothing happens either
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sry bro, i have 0 iq
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what instances xD
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:04:38Z
<ChillerDragon> i mean swicth between two ddnet clients
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<ChillerDragon> its gnome feature i think
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<ChillerDragon> alt+tab is tab between applications like tab to browser
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i can do that too
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:05:00Z
<ChillerDragon> and alt+^ is tab from 1 ddnet cleint to other ddnet client
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<ChillerDragon> but my tabbin is cursed rn im sure its a cfg
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<ChillerDragon> i did a git diff to old pc didnt find anything
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ok but sory i cant help with gnomium
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robit, stop having RL and make new release
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:21:33Z
<ChillerDragon> xd
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ChillerDragon: I had this alt-tab bug for a while and it happened randomly, either the upgrade to gnome 44 / some package update fixed it or I didn't alt-tab enough yet for it to appear again. I remember finding out that it happens even without any extension enabled
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:45:45Z
<ChillerDragon> oh no da scr0llz
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<ChillerDragon> da fakin hilite didnt wrap jupsti
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<ChillerDragon> @hus3h i mean alt+tab technically works but not as i want it. What i want is press alt+tab and reach my browser. What now happens is i press alt+tab twice and i reach my terminal if i press it thrice i reach my browser
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<ChillerDragon> u sure thats a gnome bug not a client setting?
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<ChillerDragon> @Jupstar hilit with long message xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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<Jupstar> ChillerDragon: add box-sizing: border-box; to .highlight
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<Jupstar> every time u use padding, use this, except u know what you doing
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<ChillerDragon> idk wat i do
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<ChillerDragon> can we add this to * ?
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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<Jupstar> np, that's why i'm here
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<Jupstar> yeah should work too
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<Jupstar> there are ppl that claim css should default to this
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<Jupstar> u know css very bloated, but very powerful
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<ChillerDragon> yea seems sane
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<Jupstar> we just need CSS-next
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<ChillerDragon> wot
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<Jupstar> bloat free new version
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<ChillerDragon> i dont think css is very bloated
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ChillerDragon: yes to me one alt-tab would open the popup but highlight the current focused window instead of the other one, so I'd have to press twice to get the next window seems like a bug to me as it changes the normal behaviour and it would happen all of sudden without changes in settings and a shell restart usually fixed it
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:54:31Z
<ChillerDragon222> oh nice to know @hus3h thanks
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<pinger> @TsFreddie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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<ChillerDragon> sorry test in prod
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<ChillerDragon> xd
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<ChillerDragon> works amazing @Jupstar ✪
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<ChillerDragon> @TsFreddie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx @ju
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WTF
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:56:50Z
<ChillerDragon> @TsFreddie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jupstar
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chillerdragon
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u such a troll
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:56:59Z
<ChillerDragon> wot?
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<ChillerDragon> ur css good!
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why do you ping tsfreddie when u tag @ChillerDragon xDD
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:57:19Z
<ChillerDragon> watf!?
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<ChillerDragon> ??????
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ChillerDragon: no problem! I suspected having nautilus or vscode open being the cause of it but nothing confirmed, maybe some update will fix it for you
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xDDDDDDDDDDDD
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:57:35Z
<ChillerDragon> HOLY MOLY
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fcking troll
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i swear
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 19:57:38Z
<ChillerDragon> bridge moment
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<ChillerDragon> ah yea i think tsfreddie maybe tried to spoof my name to bypass some !mods command thing
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<ChillerDragon> he is known imposter
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lmfao poor fred
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no way its 22oclock, i did nothing today
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have to fly to USA quickly
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to save my day
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 20:10:24Z
<ChillerDragon> yea ffs just had the same thought
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<ChillerDragon> jopsti we both waste too much time in this channel xd
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Anyone want to merge #6684 and #6685?
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Same as for the envelope editor. Extract RenderExtraEditorDragBar function to reduce duplicate code. Fix height being changed by repeated clicking on the draggable element by also resetting s_Opera...
Allow dragging the demo player controls anywhere on the screen. The controls can't be moved outside of the screen. Round corners are automatically disabled when the controls are on the edge of ...
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Jupstar ✪
0 IQ
:( I still didn't get it plz explain ;) I have a non 0 IQ now
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Mr.Gh0s7
:( I still didn't get it plz explain ;) I have a non 0 IQ now
explain what? what 0 IQ means? xd
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No xD 0 IQ = pog
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What went wrong and why it crashed
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basically, we created the text container in a temp variable
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and conditionally didnt save the result of it
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Ok thanks. welp I had no chance of figure it out guess !0 iq for me then 😅
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9be2a78 Fix killmessages might drop text container indices, if a killmsg was invalid - Jupeyy 44039c2 Revert "make sure it's not modifying memory" - Jupeyy 5955699 Merge #6698 - bors[bot]
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I suggest enable cl_ddrace_scoreboard 0 also for PVP(example ICTF) demos
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ws-client BOT 2023-06-03 20:56:59Z
<ChillerDragon> @hus3h nice update and reboot did indeed fix it lul
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ChillerDragon: nice!
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90ae59a Make server settings editor height adjustable by dragging - Robyt3 bbe2430 Fix tooltips being active behind popups and outside clipping rects - Robyt3 6aa7d3d Delay menu (de)activation until end of render call - Robyt3 3130649 Support dragging demo player controls to move them - Robyt3 8121abf Add dragger prediction - trml 49c0bf9 Slightly broader condition for snapping dragger id - trml c227ed4 Merge #6684 #6685 #6699 - bors[bot]
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e3fed7d Update libraries - def- 374229f Version 17.0 - def-
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is this https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/2892 being worked on? I am interested on trying to implement it :) (edited)
Its hard to clean up the map folder (I have a lot of "testmap", "partIdea#136", etc) or find a map without their name. Loading each map taking a lot of time... Can we show a map...
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is ddnet against use of std strings in new code?
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also, should i use _vVarname for a std::initializer_list
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it's not a vector but it's similar
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