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Between 2023-06-01 00:00:00Z and 2023-06-02 00:00:00Z

Jupstar ✪

bcs it represents geographical coordinates or smth like that

You can own /64 for very cheap lmao

05:42

2^(128-64) is kinda huge

With 2^512 we could give every atom in the universe it's unique ip

(edited)

justatest

Hi, I want to change my name, should I do it?

06:20

please help me thanks

does your name have 3000 points or higher

Yes, I own more than 10,000

Jupstar ✪

With 2^512 we could give every atom in the universe it's unique ip

(edited)

where did u get that 2^512 hollande

hollande

06:33

ipv12

1

Vae

Yes, I own more than 10,000

Hey sunshine123, shoot me a direct message regarding your rename request.

ReiTW

ipv12

Ipv6 will never come,so let's just skip it xd

@Jupstar ✪ people was supposed to deploy it world wide the 06/06/2006

justatest

07:33

im spamming prs to a japanese guy in gh

anyone know opensource chat platform (selfhosted) with bots and android app? for example i want selfhosted telegram alternative

what do you want from a selfhosted platform?

08:16

would matrix with its app element work?

08:19

how well does matrix work in china @TsFreddie?

heinrich5991

what do you want from a selfhosted platform?

I need to send notifications to clients with interactive features (buttons, input field)

heinrich5991

how well does matrix work in china @TsFreddie?

never used it

Matodor

I need to send notifications to clients with interactive features (buttons, input field)

I think matrix doesn't cover that

does telegram have inpiut fields? o.O

you can use the chat itself for that

08:46

but it does have buttons

08:46

I don't think matrix has that

08:46

you could potentially emulate it with reactions

ChillerDragon

does telegram have inpiut fields? o.O

yes xD

Image attachment

that's just the standard input field, no?

heinrich5991

that's just the standard input field, no?

yes, that's enough for my task

anybody here uses distcc

08:58

i thought that while im home i may give my m1 a job, and compile it alongside my pc

08:58

since m1 is nearly as fast as my cpu compiling lol

08:59

ohh this could work nicely to compile firefox in gentoo

Ryozuki

anybody here uses distcc

I don't

@heinrich5991 do u think with distcc, i can use m1, which is aarch, to compile x86 zen3 programs?

09:18

@Learath2 u used distcc right

Been almost 6 years since I last set it up, but yes

09:18

When my old laptop had gentoo aswell

read my comments

09:18

if u can

09:18

xd

Ryozuki

@heinrich5991 do u think with distcc, i can use m1, which is aarch, to compile x86 zen3 programs?

they explicitly say they support cross-compiling

09:19

so I guess yes

Sure you can, iirc you just need to get the correct cross compiler setupa

I don't know how hard it is

https://retroflux.net/blog/distcc-adventures/

09:21

meh this is the reverse

09:21

and windosy

09:23

https://github.com/SergioBenitez/homebrew-osxct

09:23

i think i can use this

09:23

seems old

Hm, idk where one gets cross compilers on osx

might clang be a cross-compiler by default?

09:26

alternatively, zig

CFLAGS='-arch x86_64'

09:26

is this a real thing

09:26

i think clang is

09:26

but what if i use gcc on gentoo

$ clang -arch aarch64 a.c
clang-15: warning: argument unused during compilation: '-arch aarch64' [-Wunused-command-line-argument]

arch is for gcc i think

09:28

ok no

09:28

idk

-target aarch64-apple-darwin

i want my target to be ryzen zen 3 x86

but I seem to lack a lnker

@Learath2 can i use lld systemwide

Mh, you can try

09:36

Problem with those configurations is that no one is actively testing them, so you might get bugs and will have to deal with them on your own

@Learath2 why is even ld the default on the current linux world

09:38

its the slowest

It works

09:39

I'm guessing the reason is that the only people that bulk compile stuff are gentoo users and distro maintainers

you can test lld and make it better \o/

09:40

ChillerDragon: ruby help available?

i never had problems with lld

[ddnet:master] 1 new commit

4785ac3 Version 17.0.2 - def-

the problem is i think i cant use lld with gcc? or maybe not with gcc and lto

09:40

i dont use lto tho

don't wake Jupstar

You can link with lld iirc. But don't remember if lto works

LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS} -fuse-ld=lld"

09:41

ill add this

09:41

and pray

09:42

luckily i think the kernel is outside the scope of this flags

09:42

right?

If you are brave, do a full rebuild

What's with me

Yeah, kernel doesn't use emerge conf

Jupstar ✪

What's with me

Ur the lto person

package.env exists

09:43

just found out today

09:43

its a nice thing

09:43

for example to enable lto to select packages

Lto is only worth for static linking enjoyers

09:44

A world yet to be created

rust

<Jupstar> the greatest part about rust

09:48

<Jupstar> they knew how to lure me

xd

@heinrich5991 ye same as in python

09:57

try help Array in irb

another day in the good old irc

pog

<ChillerDragon> who needs weechat when there is webchat

09:59

<ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1685613547.png

Embedded image

09:59

<ChillerDragon> quality cde highltght

09:59

<Jupstar> lazy code highlight xd

10:00

<ChillerDragon> Jupstar get pingerd

I was too stupid to figure out the help function in ruby on my own btw

10:01

>> help
Nothing known about .help
>> help(help)
Nothing known about .help(help)

<ChillerDragon> what do you mean?

10:02

<ChillerDragon> i see

btw parenthesis are considered bloat in ruby

10:02

true rubingers say help help

ah

xd xd

you need ruby docs installed

10:02

gem install rdoc

Learath2: i joined #c and #c++ on liberas

10:04

i got my popcorn for those c standard discussions

lmao c people last irc users on da planet

#c is reaaally knowledgeable

i mean ye

10:05

u have people who still use irc

10:05

i expect them to know their bits

10:06

im also on ##rust

i can see rust people using discord over irc :p

ye

heinrich u got da help workin?

but ##rust is quite active

when #edlang

ChillerDragon: yes

pro

that wasn't what I was interested in originally, but it's also interesting

##rust offtopic chatter - unsafety allowed until further notice

10:07

epic channel

what were you looking for?

10:08

Ryozuki: go add reply support to mattermost thank

how to define module functions

10:08

but I figured it out already

pro

ChillerDragon: memes aside

i thought u wanted to generate docs for huffman

:module_function or so

is ruby worht learning

u dont need to learn ruby if you know english

xd

so no not worth it

10:09

just use it

10:09

but it doesnt have many applications

ChillerDragon: no. theoretically everything is done and I could publish the ruby/python package now

it helps when you want to read gitlab source code tho

10:10

very pog heinrich

however, not sure how easy it is with an unreleased version of uniffi ^^

10:10

maybe I'll try

Ryozuki: homebrew/gitlab/meta sploit exploits use ruby but yea it just reads fine even if you do not know it

why do metasploit use ruby

idk

its an interesting framework

10:11

but i never got into it

not all but some

10:11

me neither

10:11

i just watch 10h HACKING ETHICAL DOUBLE PENETRATION COURSE FREE while playing minecraft

there is a channel in rizon called #truth

and they talk about it

its quite funny

10:11

The room dedicated to current events, politics, gender, race, science, cryptocurrency, economics, entertainment, history, religion, philosophy, or any other type of knowledgeable discussion.

Embedded image

10:12

https://github.com/rapid7/metasploit-framework

GitHub - rapid7/metasploit-framework: Metasploit Framework

Metasploit Framework. Contribute to rapid7/metasploit-framework development by creating an account on GitHub.

10:12

ruby is trash because there is no way to compile or add any kind of type annotations

oh

10:12

i need my types

even python has better typing

10:13

and even python compiles to some degree

10:13

shipping a ruby desktop app usually involves shipping a ruby interpreter

like python

in python its a bit better

10:13

better ecosys around it

10:14

also python compiles

ruby is used cuz ruby on rails

to python bytecode

10:14

yes

like elixir is used cuz phoenix

like rust is used cuz ferris

https://www.phoenixframework.org/

Phoenix Framework

Phoenix is a web framework for the Elixir programming language that gives you peace of mind from development to production

10:14

lot of ppl love this

10:14

rust exist cuz C exists

isn't elixir based on erlang?

10:15

ah, it compiles to the erlang VM

ye

10:15

its a BEAM language

10:16

elixir has "better" syntax (lol)

10:16

erlang rly has bad syntax

10:16

anyway elixir can use otp too

10:16

but

otp?

i personally would use https://gleam.run/

The Gleam programming language

10:16

another beam lang, but typed

10:16

otp is erlang/otp

10:16

what makes erlang so good

still don't know what otp is

OTP is set of Erlang libraries and design principles providing middle-ware to develop these systems. It includes its own distributed database, applications to interface towards other languages, debugging and release handling tools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Telecom_Platform

Open Telecom Platform

OTP is a collection of useful middleware, libraries, and tools written in the Erlang programming language. It is an integral part of the open-source distribution of Erlang. The name OTP was originally an acronym for Open Telecom Platform, which was a branding attempt before Ericsson released Erlang/OTP as open source. However neither Erlang nor ...

ye

is erlang that thing where you can upgrade a running process?

10:17

that sounds like a very desirable feature

it is

10:18

u can do that ye

10:18

erlang is the language made by ericson

10:18

massively scalable

do you have docs on that?

whatsapp uses erlang iirc

how does it handle data structure changes

i think u can replace a module

10:19

with the updated version

10:19

erlang is composed of modules

10:19

https://blog.appsignal.com/2021/07/27/a-guide-to-hot-code-reloading-in-elixir.html

A Guide to Hot Code Reloading in Elixir | AppSignal Blog

Discover how to use hot code reloading and updates in your production code upgrade in Elixir.

10:19

oh

10:20

u can upgrade a module, a package, the entire otp

10:20

aka the instance

10:21

https://erlang.org/pipermail/erlang-questions/2007-July/027816.html

You should view versions of your systems as progressing from state1 to
state2 to state3
and so on.

Then you need transformation functions that take state N to state N+1 AND
(importantly) state N+1 to state N.

To make a state change in you system your put it into a stable state,
then roll the state forwards or backwards then resume operations.

Meta code for this is:

     suspend all relevant processes
     roll  to state I+1 or I-1
     resume all relevant processes

10:22

erlang is a functional lang btw

10:22

immutable

the mailing list is nice

@Jupstar ✪ i got a new pfp hope u enjoy

10:47

troll

Ryozuki

@Jupstar ✪ i got a new pfp hope u enjoy

Lol. Back to the year 2000

xd

We had a camera exactly like this one ^^

<ChillerDragon2> watf how old u jupsti

11:01

<Jupstar> 72

hi is ddnet 2 content in progress? or even planned whats comin?

Only time can tell

11:03

Planning often happens here and there

11:04

Esp for accounts

Jupstar is coding on a version not bound by backcompat

11:06

everyone is incrementally adding features to normal ddnet

11:06

I don't knwo about an explicity ddnet2 goal though

<Jupstar> mh Rustians: i have a problem.. i want to panic inside Drop... that's not a problem. But i cannot write should_panic tests for it, because of https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/issues/97

Never allow unwinding from Drop impls · Issue #97 · rust-lang/lang-...

Summary Code using catch_unwind is not typically prepared to handle an object that panics in its Drop impl. Even the standard library has had various bugs in this regard, and if the standard librar...

11:10

<Jupstar> Any idea?

why do you want to panic inside drop?

11:10

you should also not throw in destructors in C++

<Jupstar> i want to make sure a resource is never dropped when it's still in use basically

u can panic on drop

I wondered if ddnet would be good implementing it in Godot, it has both Vulkan and OpenGL compatibility, native language set (so cpp and C# can be used for compliling) and has better control over memory, as in it's object oriented

but if u panic on a panic

11:11

it aborts

I want to make it happen in Godot, but only I can do much at the time xd

<Jupstar> the panic isnt the problem. the problem is i cant write a test for it @Ryozuki

11:12

<Jupstar> at least not with should_panic

11:12

<Jupstar> it's ok that it aborts, this is a fatal error anyway

Jupstar: you probably have to hand-roll your test here

11:13

can't do it with #[should_panic]

11:13

Consider that C++ (which is normally very conservative with breaking changes) made the same change in C++11: destructors were changed to be noexcept by default, which causes any exceptions which escape them to abort the process instead.

11:14

interesting, TIL

11:19

hmm

11:19

@Jupstar ✪ it seems the RFC isn't accepted yet?

11:19

https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/3288 (edited)

Don't allow unwinding from Drop impls by Amanieu · Pull Request #32...

This RFC proposes to change this behavior to always abort if a panic attempts to escape a drop, even if this drop was invoked as part of normal function execution (as opposed to unwinding which alr...

<Jupstar> Mhh i get panicked at 'panic in a function that cannot unwind' tho

hmm

<Jupstar> anyway i ignore the test for now :D

11:22

<Jupstar> in theory it works

Image attachment

@Learath2 there is a new discord rust lib

11:36

https://twilight.rs/

Overview - Twilight

Powerful asynchronous, flexible, and scalable ecosystem of Rust libraries for the Discord API.

11:36

i might look into it

<Jupstar> have u used serenity before?

rly tiny bit

11:39

never rly much

11:40

cant comment on it

@Mr.Gh0s7 I think using classes to instance different kinds of libraries into one script can be more powerful in Godot and would allow me to use more extensions into one script. My idea would be to have my VScript library create all the other classes like VCharacter2D, VPanel2D, etc. to access them and use them inside another script. Also I see how you wanted me to use classes now, didn't know it worked like that xd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxGOiiR9ZKg

The Flaws of Inheritance

1

12:40

It would make my tw client dev making much easier

Cellegen

@Mr.Gh0s7 I think using classes to instance different kinds of libraries into one script can be more powerful in Godot and would allow me to use more extensions into one script. My idea would be to have my VScript library create all the other classes like VCharacter2D, VPanel2D, etc. to access them and use them inside another script. Also I see how you wanted me to use classes now, didn't know it worked like that xd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxGOiiR9ZKg

this guy definetly use Motion Canvas for his videos

probably, the quality of his videos are really good

yea

12:42

motion canvas is a rly cool project (edited)

I may want to use that program for my own tutorial videos for Godot, if I get to a point, where I want to teach people something new

good luck

12:43

motion canvas is mostly full code animations

12:43

typescript lang

if it's a set of functions, then it's ok

https://motioncanvas.io/

Visualize complex ideas programmatically

12:48

TIL

12:49

https://motioncanvas.io/editor/presentation/

Ryozuki

https://motioncanvas.io/editor/presentation/

the editor is only a way to debug things & set "sleep" delays

13:39

but the animations are made using typescript

13:40

he could make so that animations are made with the editor but he said that he wanted to make everything with code mostly, because he likes it

Ryozuki

https://twilight.rs/

is it new tho

idk if new xd

14:19

but i found it

14:19

i only new about serenity

14:19

iot seems well made

14:19

im making ryochan rn

serenity is kinda huge framework

14:24

twilight looks like dpp

gerdoe

twilight looks like dpp

whats ddp

14:25

dpp

14:25

twilight is unironically everything discord offers

discord api wrapper in cpp written by Brain

14:25

discord api library

14:25

aegis superior

anything non rust is out of question

14:26

anyway im liking twilight rn

dpp was really small at start

14:27

and covered whole dapi

twilight doesnt seem small to me

is it possible in some point to make a search bar to find a tile/group/quad etc.. when your list is too crowded? if it is awesome

Image attachment

@Ravie is this something we want or not

<Jupstar> a filter like in vscode file list could work for this ^^

Ryozuki

@Ravie is this something we want or not

doesn't seem very useful to me, if you get lost in your layers then maybe group and name them better

the resident chief editor decided (edited)

14:43

justatest

Ig that's still useful

15:00

Wouldn't take much place tho

normal layer areas dont have a search function

Hello devs! Any idea why I can't use Vulkan 1.1.0? I select it, reload the game, and it jump back to OpenGL 3.0.0! I tried with steam version, and downloaded version I saw on forum that adding gfx_render_thread_count 1 to settings_ddnet.cfg could help, but it didn't. Here are my gfx analysis, after selecting vulkan:

gfx_3d_texture_analysis_ran 1
gfx_3d_texture_analysis_renderer "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2"
gfx_3d_texture_analysis_version "4.6.0 NVIDIA 528.49"
gfx_render_thread_count 1

line gfx_backend "OpenGL" is missing, but I still see Vulkan in settings :3 Thanks for your help!

Krain

Hello devs! Any idea why I can't use Vulkan 1.1.0? I select it, reload the game, and it jump back to OpenGL 3.0.0! I tried with steam version, and downloaded version I saw on forum that adding gfx_render_thread_count 1 to settings_ddnet.cfg could help, but it didn't. Here are my gfx analysis, after selecting vulkan:

gfx_3d_texture_analysis_ran 1
gfx_3d_texture_analysis_renderer "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2"
gfx_3d_texture_analysis_version "4.6.0 NVIDIA 528.49"
gfx_render_thread_count 1

line gfx_backend "OpenGL" is missing, but I still see Vulkan in settings :3 Thanks for your help!

What's your client version? Do u maybe have a laptop?

15:15

On laptop maybe the Intel GPU is the fault

No laptop! How can I give you the client version?

15:15

17.0.2***

F1 top right

15:16

Ok

v0.6.4, 17.0.2 :>

Use steam?

Yup, but I tried on both

Maybe u selected the OpenGL option in steam

15:16

Then it forces ogl

I'm trying this because somone told me Vulkan is actually way better. Should I war to use Vulkan, or not really ahah

15:17

I'm looking into steam settings!

Look at my profile picture xd

Ahahah

you're talking to jupstar- yea

15:18

jup is vulkan rep here

Any idea where this ogl setting is in steam?

15:22

And the difference between both is obvious? Are we sure it's not just the settings page that is badly updated, but the game correctly use Vulkan?

15:27

I uninstalled steam version, to avoid conflicts. Trying to update my nvidia drivers in case. I really don't understand, because Vulkan is supposed to be the default renderer, but looks like my game really prefer ogl 3.0.0 ;-;

vulkan is better

Krain

I uninstalled steam version, to avoid conflicts. Trying to update my nvidia drivers in case. I really don't understand, because Vulkan is supposed to be the default renderer, but looks like my game really prefer ogl 3.0.0 ;-;

after starting the client, does F1 mention something why vulkan failed?

15:38

can you select vulkan in the client close the client look into settings_ddnet.cfg search for gfx_backend

15:38

and see what it says

15:38

maybe your client crashes before writing the config file

2023-06-01 17:37:58 I gfx: Created Vulkan 1.1 context.
2023-06-01 17:37:59 I gfx: unable to create window: Installed Vulkan doesn't implement the VK_KHR_surface extension

OHOH

oh lol

15:39

did you plug your monitor into your mainboard instead of the graphics card?

Wtf no

15:39

oh but I use a kvm!!!

ah you on linux?

Nope

15:39

I use it to switch my screen between two computers

ok maybe i dunno what a kvm is then

https://www.amazon.fr/Switch-Commutateur-USB2-0-Brancher-Ecran/dp/B08H4FKJPN/ref=asc_df_B08H4FKJPN/?hvadid=454735878876&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5881411235968907278&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9040843&hvtargid=pla-968027552616&psc=1 something like that :> You plug in your 2 pc on it, and it will redirect all usb and dpi from one pc to the other in one click

KVM HDMI Switch USB 2 Port Commutateur KVM HDMI 4K@ 30Hz,4 USB2.0,B...

Problème commun : Question 1 : l'ordinateur prend en charge l'interface DVI ou Displayport ? Réponse : oui. Cependant, vous aurez besoin d'un convertisseur DVIto HDMI ou Displayport vers HDMI. (Non fourni avec l'emballage) Question 2 : Est-ce qu'il prend en charge les raccourcis ? Réponse : ce KV...

15:41

I'll try to plug my screen directly to the graphic card, rb

oh ok

Nope, still not working!

@Krain another thing that could be a problem is, if you use a 32bit client or windows

15:44

can you verify both is 64-bit?

15:45

the client says in F1

Image attachment

ok

15:45

but you tried without steam right?

I uninstalled steam version!

ok

15:45

in the ddnet dir, do you see vulkan-1.dll?

15:46

next to the .exe

Yup!

can u delete it and try again?=

Still not working

if that still doesn't work, i assume it's some programm blocking it

vulkan-1.dll didn't came back

e.g. firewall discord some mouse drivers with overlays

Krain

vulkan-1.dll didn't came back

u actually dont need it anyway

ahahah

it's for computers that dont have a vulkan driver at all

am I sure I have thoses drivers?

you have vulkan drivers but for some to me unknown reason it cannot create a surface

15:47

a surface is basically the window itself

1

15:48

can u maybe try without fullscreen?

15:48

in "windowed mode"

still nope

do u have some weird overlays active?

15:49

similar to discord overlay

um I don't think so :/

u updated your drivers to latest now,right?

let me double check that

535.98 WHQL

15:50

is the latest

Jupstar ✪

535.98 WHQL

uuh scary name

15:51

Oh, driver update didn't worked, I am trying again

u can also try a clean driver from nvidia directly https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/205173/en-us/

GeForce Game Ready Driver | 535.98 | Windows 10 64-bit, Windows 11 ...

Download the English (US) GeForce Game Ready Driver for Windows 10 64-bit, Windows 11 systems. Released 2023.5.30

I'll try that looks like geforce cannot update my driver?? Problem mght be deeper than just a Vulkan thing ahah

oh

Jupstar ✪

u can also try a clean driver from nvidia directly https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/205173/en-us/

^ and a fresh install?

15:54

if u reinstall, i'd highly suggest to use a tool like DDU https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html It removes all the config files etc. So it's an actual reset of the driver But better try without first

oh. Disk full ^^' edit: I free some space! Brb :< (edited)

ah lol

IT WORKED ahahah

16:07

so it was my drivers I guess ^^' Thanks for your help, and sorry for the time loss ^^'

16:08

I don't really see the difference :w But if it's better, it's better right? ahah

Krain

Hello devs! Any idea why I can't use Vulkan 1.1.0? I select it, reload the game, and it jump back to OpenGL 3.0.0! I tried with steam version, and downloaded version I saw on forum that adding gfx_render_thread_count 1 to settings_ddnet.cfg could help, but it didn't. Here are my gfx analysis, after selecting vulkan:

gfx_3d_texture_analysis_ran 1
gfx_3d_texture_analysis_renderer "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060/PCIe/SSE2"
gfx_3d_texture_analysis_version "4.6.0 NVIDIA 528.49"
gfx_render_thread_count 1

line gfx_backend "OpenGL" is missing, but I still see Vulkan in settings :3 Thanks for your help!

btw setting gfx_render_thread_count higher usually gives more and more stable fps it uses more cores to create the render calls But i cannot guarantee it for every hardware^^

Ryozuki

https://twilight.rs/

That is what @YADDB uses

Jupstar ✪

btw setting gfx_render_thread_count higher usually gives more and more stable fps it uses more cores to create the render calls But i cannot guarantee it for every hardware^^

Oh! ok ok!

Krain

I don't really see the difference :w But if it's better, it's better right? ahah

it also depends on the CPU, but usually it should give around double the FPS

Learath2

That is what @YADDB uses

im making my own

16:09

better than yaddb

16:09

and its named ryochan

Oh.. I was already max fps ahah

considering u have gfx_refresh_rate 0; cl_refresh_rate 0; gfx_vsync 0

Ryozuki

better than yaddb

Better than yaddb is not a very high bar to clear. Yaddb was supposed to be a debugging tool

Krain

Oh.. I was already max fps ahah

i see, it also depends on the map in entities u usually have more fps anyway^^

tbh idk whaty addb does

16:09

i just said it to be cool

It handles banning people on servers

nvm then

wait.. is it my fps?

Image attachment

its like @DDNet

Krain

wait.. is it my fps?

the first number

16:10

yes

ahahah

16:10

overkill? naaaaah

it is

ahahahahaah

16:10

I love it ahah

best is you use gfx_refresh_rate 1000

16:10

or smth like that

Krain

overkill? naaaaah

world record goes to chillerdragon with a rtx 4090

16:11

Embedded image

16:11

17k fps xD

AHAHAHAH

but only possible on linux

It's so dumb ahahah

im sure chiller didnt self compile with march native and lto (edited)

Ryozuki

im sure chiller didnt self compile with march native and lto (edited)

tru

16:11

and Ofast

xd

and using wayland

and native march kernel

even my shit pc reached 15k fps

tuned for the cpu

16:12

gentoo

overclocked hardware

You lost me guys ;-;

16:12

Thanks again for the help Jupstar! You converted somone else to Vulkan gg wp :>

lmao xD

Just in case, I already asked 3/4 month ago, but: I have around 70 ping on ger2, but 25 on ger10. Not using VPN or anything on my network I'm just doomed, because of how routers are linked between me and the ger2 server right? (edited)

yeah, basically yes

16:16

if u lucky a router restart fixes it

i also like heinz ketchup

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Jupstar ✪

if u lucky a router restart fixes it

Already tried! :D Thanks for all the work you are doing on the game ;)

heartw

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Ravie

doesn't seem very useful to me, if you get lost in your layers then maybe group and name them better

and what about an auto save?, sometimes when you are generating for example a hook tile too large the game crashes (edited)

autosave would be nice, especially since it doesn't need any ui

Ravie

autosave would be nice, especially since it doesn't need any ui

open issue please

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6693 Editor autosave

Arrow suggested to add an autosave feature to the editor, I think it's a good idea. It should save the current edited map once in a while in a special folder so the main maps folder doesn't get cluttered.

[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

4dd647b Add script to check for unused config variables to CI - Robyt3 5963a7a Remove unnecessary usage of preprocessor - Robyt3 75227ed Remove unused config variables: - Robyt3 ba852a4 Merge #6692 - bors[bot]

19:10

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6692 Add script to check for unused config variables to CI, remove unused config variables

afternoon

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so many abstractions over net in libtw2 huh

19:53

server re-registers new peer every disconnect

19:53

with same addrs

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6694 Add "No server selected" message to server details

Otherwise the tab is completely empty when no server is selected. !screenshot_2023-06-01_22-27-29

Checklist

[X] Tested the change ingame
[X] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out ...

GitHub

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YES! YES!

Jupstar ✪

17k fps xD

justatest

I wonder when we'll be reaching the point, where we hit a limit on what a real life simulation (UE5.2 project for example) needs and out of thin air, NVIDIA will make a 3x stronger the official limit GPU

21:13

I think with the 4090, the limit is already broken, as in you can simulate real life interactable environments in 60+ fps

21:13

and anything less will always produce the absolute best, so I don't see a reason to have stronger GPUs for the casual person (edited)

For ddnet the bottleneck is the CPU anyway

well obviously

21:14

with 17k fps, the CPU has to produce those

4090 probably chills at 50% load for 17k fps

bruh

21:15

how is the new Starwars game?

Cellegen

I think with the 4090, the limit is already broken, as in you can simulate real life interactable environments in 60+ fps

The problem is. We actually need 16k screens, virtual reality, more fps. Etc so it feels actually real

21:16

So I guess we are still far away from that dream sadly

for virtual reality, it's natural, for real life games, idk

21:16

I just want to see a fair prize share for GPUs and not let GPUs be used for crypto mining

I guess the good old days are over for the next years coming

Ye

Chairn once shared a graph

21:18

The cost for new cpu manufacture nodes are simply too expensive

Yes, a 1080 for 300€, not even a decent purchase when it comes to the release prize of a 3080

21:19

and you only see lower for the prize of 250~

21:19

menacing prizes really

Chairn

Click to see attachment 🖼️

^

I think AMD still goes as the best affordable GPU market (edited)

Yeah^^

I think we are just fucked with NVIDIA kek

kek

Jupstar ✪

^

Tho tbf the cost might have increased, but the money they earned ofc increased too by the globalization

Cellegen

I think we are just fucked with NVIDIA kek

kek

They are pretty Monopoly xd

Jupstar ✪

Tho tbf the cost might have increased, but the money they earned ofc increased too by the globalization

Just so that the cycle could repeat itself

Especially if u consider every field, not just gaming xd

in every field it's absolutely fine, let the tech guys have it for a reasonable prize, but if you wanna advertise the GPU for gaming, then it's another issue

21:22

4090 literally was advertised to run Cyberpunk at 60fps with ray tracing

21:22

.-.

21:23

which is fucking stupid, the game's fucking unoptimized but ok nvidia

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

81d7b9f Add "No server selected" message to server details - Robyt3 accbe23 Merge #6694 - bors[bot]

21:59

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6694 Add "No server selected" message to server details

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6695 Improve snapping of draggers

These are some things i noticed could be improved while attempting to add prediction for draggers: Sets dragger owner to be the dragged player (this also means alpha will be applied). It also ensures that the dragger that is sent for the players own team always has the same netobject id, and additionally that an idle dragger is always sent if no one in the players owns team is dragged (before it used to be that an idle dragger wasn't sent if any player was dragged, including other teams...

anyone have an example of where in the client there is an interface being defined within an implementation

22:40

i need to create an interface or at least an abstract class that would only be used within this implementation (it's a component) but i'm not sure how the convention would work

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

348748f Fix snapping of dragger target pos - trml 71d45b6 Send dragger target (as owner), use original dragger id when sending dragger beam for a team - trml 2d32214 Merge #6695 - bors[bot]

22:49

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6695 Improve snapping of draggers

ChillerDragon: https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/06/01/Rust-1.70.0.html, sparse registry is now default

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