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Between 2023-05-31 00:00:00Z and 2023-06-01 00:00:00Z

it betrays me all the time justatest

justatest

justatest

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Hello, can someone help me to see how to open a ticket?

You don't open one, you can use #reports to report people, read the channel description at the top... If it's related to moderator actions, you can contact an admin.

genuine question

03:42

why dont we have a twitter

03:42

like an official ddnet account on every social platform

03:42

social media team

03:43

support ddnet content creators

not really any reason to tbh

03:53

just extra work for people to maintain

Ya, the discord alone has everything we'd need, I'd imagine

03:56

I guess you could argue social media accounts would boost discoverability for the game

03:57

Probably better off paying for ads

03:58

But the game makes zero profit, don't see a reason for doing that

but i mean to have more reach

04:27

make this game mainstream

04:27

passion project

Skeith

But the game makes zero profit, don't see a reason for doing that

that's true

Does DDraceNetwork have a Korean server?

Yes, search "korea" in the browser, bottom left

google browser

Ecosia

thank you guys

SAGE

thank you guys

You can add them to your favorites via the info tab, select a korean server, then click info at the bottom right, click the "Favorite" checkbox at the top of the window

can someone send me kog hammer bind

Aleganto

can someone send me kog hammer bind

488 bytes

thx

08:00

not working

bind ctrl+g "echo Gores Mode: OFF; bind mouse1 +fire; bind mouse2 +hook; bind ctrl+g exec gores\switch.txt"

can anyone join me and help me in 1 part pls

dev's, make a achievements in steam client, just why not

pepeH

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en1gma../

dev's, make a achievements in steam client, just why not

sounds ez to implement :]

en1gma../

dev's, make a achievements in steam client, just why not

because that would be a steam-only feature

Achievements need to be done like by in-game statistics

09:53

im think

heinrich5991

because that would be a steam-only feature

why not xd

en1gma../

why not xd

we usually try to be complete on the non-steam version, too

09:59

but if we also get achievements elsewhere, that'd be fine

No accounts no achievements

make achievements attached to names santatrollet

santatrollet

make names attached to achievements santatrollet

santatrollet

Make attachments named to achievements

nouis

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12:06

We could do client side achievements i guess and upload/sync the progress to steam.. all steam games i know let u easily cheat achievements

12:06

They are really more for fun

Learath2

No accounts no achievements

achievements in steam??

12:31

thinkies

No achievement for website users, no achievements for anyone

A gg

12:32

Nsadlife

i am not a programmer, but i suspect that it is impossible to make interesting achievements that would be based on mechanics of game

Deeper

i am not a programmer, but i suspect that it is impossible to make interesting achievements that would be based on mechanics of game

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Congratulations! You just achieved your first block.

“Finish your first map”

"Get caught paying for finishes"

justatest

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Yeah, I think you couldn't add achievements for ingame things like "Hammerfly" etc, because you wouldn't able to detect that.

Learath2

“Finish your first map”

"you get first r1" justatest

justatest

"Finish a map without touching a single button!" - aka get dragged from start to finish "10 seconds of hammerfly" "Get shotgun bugged" "Die 1 hour into a run"

Mr.Gh0s7

Yeah, I think you couldn't add achievements for ingame things like "Hammerfly" etc, because you wouldn't able to detect that.

“Now we are flying”

12:57

I’m sure we can come up with some heuristic for hammerfly

Learath2

“Now we are flying”

How would you detect it though?

"finish multeasymap 100 times" - 50% of people already have this achievement

@Cellegen already made a list for achievements (edited)

12:57

lul

A hooks B, A is above B, B hammers A while hooked or a couple ticks after unhook, center of mass of A+B is gaining x amount of height

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YEP

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Require like 10 in a row to make sure its a hf

Would it be clientside or serverside though

-StormAx

@Cellegen already made a list for achievements (edited)

I was the only one who did a somewhat decent list

gigachad

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Would it impact performance if client sire

13:00

D

As long as it doesn’t have false positives, false negatives are fine

need a lot of acievementes starts from ez and finish like - "finish 5* insane"

Alexander

Would it be clientside or serverside though

Serverside probably

Check that for every combination of tees and every number of tees >=2. eg For 3 players in a server A B C. Check A && B and B && C and A && C

troll

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Cellegen

I was the only one who did a somewhat decent list

btw would u like to send me?

13:00

cuz i missed(i sold old laptop) (edited)

I swear to god if you guys deleted the forum

I ate the forum

poggers2

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Mr.Gh0s7

Check that for every combination of tees and every number of tees >=2. eg For 3 players in a server A B C. Check A && B and B && C and A && C

Chunk the map, discard every pair that’s not in the same chunk. It’s not hard to optimize and I’m sure we can come up with sth better than something I came up with while waiting for coffee to brew

Learath2

Chunk the map, discard every pair that’s not in the same chunk. It’s not hard to optimize and I’m sure we can come up with sth better than something I came up with while waiting for coffee to brew

Yeah. I was just bruteforcing it ;)

-StormAx

btw would u like to send me?

Ofc I don't have it in me, it was suppose to be saved at the forum post

saddd

did you guys just get rid of the idea forum altogether?

13:05

bluestripe

i guess it save in archive (edited)

-StormAx

@Cellegen already made a list for achievements (edited)

Where?

in archived forum

13:14

I FIND

13:14

@Cellegen GG

13:15

archiving DM with strangers might be usefull

thats really cool stuff

kiska_smug

I don’t think the get number one on points would work but everything else looks fine

13:16

I cannot comment on any of the extra game modes because I don’t play them

13:17

I also like the idea of having achievements per map completed but that might be much more annoying to implement

13:17

If have an achievement for aip-gores then why not all

Bomf

I don’t think the get number one on points would work but everything else looks fine

it only triggeres once and if we would have forum profiles linked to the leaderboards, we could check if your account reached n1 and send the achievement at login

13:19

Again, only if we could use the forum accounts for identification. (that means implementing a login system based on forum database) (edited)

Cellegen

it only triggeres once and if we would have forum profiles linked to the leaderboards, we could check if your account reached n1 and send the achievement at login

Yea but I mean difficulty wise

It was meant to be for the n1 only

13:20

if you cannot reach it, you are not worthy

I suppose I just think it’s an addition that’s a bit strange to me

It's a challenge noneless (edited)

Only like 2 maybe 3 people will ever get it but I suppose it may incentivise people maybe?

Thats their problem

13:21

the n1 people need their attention too yk

13:21

being recognized

I guess being at the top of the first leaderboard players see is not enough

ofc, once you climb, you aswell climb to the very top

justatest

thats the whole purpose of the leaderboard, don't you think?

13:22

pepechill

To show the points of the r1 players

13:23

So what’s the point of the achievement

and show the true r1 player who stand above all the insignificant

13:23

maybe not "insignificant", but you get the point xd

But then the achievement means once u get r1 u don’t need it again

13:24

So so that makes you not the “true r1” no? I don’t understand (edited)

well, in this logic, teeworlds is a game where you dedicate all your skills, time and effort to achieve incredible things, might as well give them a purpose to put their efforts to use, such as people who has been around for 10 years could finally put their efforts into use and climb in a more professional and fun way

Bomf

So so that makes you not the “true r1” no? I don’t understand (edited)

It makes you a person who had been number 1 at least once.

13:25

A person who can be recognized and not ignored for the achievement you just accomplished

Oh I see for the forums you are implying

It's like Challenger level in league, it's not an achievement, but it feels like one. In Teeworlds, such feats are rewarded with achievements

Maybe make it so that it’s top 100 instead of top 1

so then whoever grinds it shouldn't aim for n1, but rather for n100? bullshit (edited)

Because being a high rank like your league comparison is a bit easier than being the highest rank

but the highest rank is not feasible, it's not like you cannot achieve it, it's like you have to spend more time and effort on finishing maps, than anybody else

13:28

it is truly meant for those, who their lives resolve around Teeworlds and we have many people like it

13:28

I think it could be fun even trying to reach certain achievements, involving n1

I get what you are saying but for an ‘achievement’ like something put up on steam or so I don’t think that amount of dedication should be required

Oh believe me, Teeworlds won't be the first one who does it

13:29

TF2 is similar in this case

13:30

also TF2 has one of the worst achievements to get in history

Many games do it but it doesn’t mean it’s good haha

13:30

They’re usually regarded as the worst achievements

The game's about speedrunning right?

Yes?

You have to reach the leaderboard with whatever position you want it to be, right?

You don’t have to but sure

you can stop at top 1000 or even at top 100 if you want to

13:31

however what are those people, who want to reach the top 1 spot?

Insane

shouldn't them need to be rewarded?

poggers2

yeah, so I wanted to give them something for them too

This is a big jump though no?

Image attachment

equally, regardless if for the others is unachievable, not every game's achievements needs to be accomplished for the casual individual

Yes but I like to get all the achievements on games

Bomf

This is a big jump though no?

that is: be the number 1 for the first time

Cellegen

that is: be the number 1 for the first time

Yes but the one before that was have 10k points

13:33

U need 30k for top 1

where does it put you with 10k points on the leaderboard?

I think like top 1000 but I’m not sure

we could have an achievement before number one, about reaching top 100 and below for the first time

13:36

@-StormAx I don't think the conversation about achievements need to be brought back publicly, as in many people had stupid conversations about it, which had no base line

Cellegen

shouldn't them need to be rewarded?

they are already rewarded by literally being on top of the online leaderboard. achievements are usually meant to be attainable by everyone who invests enough time and effort. finishing all ddnet maps is absolutely extreme

It's for motivation for those who already aim for top1

Patiga

they are already rewarded by literally being on top of the online leaderboard. achievements are usually meant to be attainable by everyone who invests enough time and effort. finishing all ddnet maps is absolutely extreme

I think I already said this but I’m not sure

for the casual, yes it's insanely difficult

13:37

for the veteran however, it's a matter of putting time and effort

But in regards to steam achievements I think it might be a bit of a jump if players look and see one of them is get top 1 on the leaderboard

for the casual, they'll have all the achievements to get, so that they can be happy for the veteran, those same achievements serve no purpose, cuz they already got it

Finish all maps

Jupstar ✪

Finish all maps

Literally the top 1 achievement is this lol

it's unbalanced for veterans in a way, where they don't have to do anything and it's not rewarding

Cellegen

it's unbalanced for veterans in a way, where they don't have to do anything and it's not rewarding

Why not implement something similar to what I said and add a tracker per map completion

13:39

Because then there’s still an aim

It could also say. Play this game 8 years

Jupstar ✪

It could also say. Play this game 8 years

More than that

Bomf

Because then there’s still an aim

any method to reward the veterans too will be appreciated in this matter

Jupstar ✪

It could also say. Play this game 8 years

actual hostage gaming lets goo pepechill

pepechill

Veterans have following achievement: play vanilla for the first time xd

its like you would say "any veteran super mario 64 player just has to invest time and effort into getting the any% wr" having the record is already a huge enough reward. super mario 64 wouldn't be a better game if it had a achievement builtin for the record holder. also, getting wr is absolutely not "just hard for casuals"

Jupstar ✪

Veterans have following achievement: play vanilla for the first time xd

"take a shower for the first time"

Go outside

Patiga

its like you would say "any veteran super mario 64 player just has to invest time and effort into getting the any% wr" having the record is already a huge enough reward. super mario 64 wouldn't be a better game if it had a achievement builtin for the record holder. also, getting wr is absolutely not "just hard for casuals"

those feats are rewarded actually with tournaments

Have a gf

and with popularity, you get to be known

13:41

in teeworlds, there is no chance in this fashion

I like the idea of achievements like be the first to complete a map in the ddrace category

13:41

Because this provides an incentive without making it impossible

well ye

13:42

achievements must be categorized

Especially with harder maps like teestroyer that was just released

13:42

But I think that making achievements like these would be much better than just get rank 1 because it can be done by anyone

Cellegen

@-StormAx I don't think the conversation about achievements need to be brought back publicly, as in many people had stupid conversations about it, which had no base line

that was public, why not to back this topic

I think if achievements would be a thing, there must be a time scale for maps with different difficulty, the harder a map is, the more time it takes to be released, I have no idea if the majority would like that

-StormAx

that was public, why not to back this topic

It was public and made an entire mess which needed to be closed

Cellegen

I think if achievements would be a thing, there must be a time scale for maps with different difficulty, the harder a map is, the more time it takes to be released, I have no idea if the majority would like that

What do you mean

13:44

Also achievements relating to mapping would be cool ^^ (edited)

Alr indeed

13:44

i have to del message

This convo actually makes sense

13:44

xd

13:44

about arguing on who to reward and what to reward for is what actually needed to be discussed

13:45

what others discussed in the forum posts are fucking degenerate opinions about what they like and what they don't like

Why are you talking about achievements, don't we need accounts first?

Yup

Or are you guys thinking about linking them to names?

I thought about using forum accounts as a base for a login system

13:46

since we already have that

oh, that could be smart. And then somehow link them with ddnet names?

yeah, at this case, link their ddnet profiles to their forum accounts

13:47

but then forum accounts require to have the player name listed in it too

13:48

I think in the client, if you login with a forum account and you have no listed names in it, you get to choose a name, like when you run teeworlds for the first time

Well, that could surely be interesting! Gl with it ^^

I won't work on it, but thx

13:48

kek

troll

13:49

I feel like we've reached a point where accounts are an inside joke

It's not a joke, but a sad reality, that whatever account system they choose to do, there might be a bigger vulnerability for users and if they cannot fix it in time, then many accounts can be compromised

13:51

they took the easy way out

Patiga

they are already rewarded by literally being on top of the online leaderboard. achievements are usually meant to be attainable by everyone who invests enough time and effort. finishing all ddnet maps is absolutely extreme

and not fun

13:59

so it fits for a platinum achievement on playstation (edited)

I guess if that’s an idea I may aswell make a forums account

14:02

I will not use it but I need the name

hii

14:59

Im new player (edited)

hi

hi

justatest

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türk varmıı??

15:29

laa

15:29

bence vardır

any other language than english goes to #off-topic

@KamerayaBakanHamster No spamming please, and keep in mind what gerdoe told you

@PopCorn181 congrats for ur map !

feelsamazingman

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@PopCorn181 congrats for ur map !

feelsamazingman

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@PopCorn181 @texnonik @ƤØŢĀŤ0Co @nekorul troll map

gigachad

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@PopaJopa No cursing

I curse you to step on a lego

justatest

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gerdoe

@PopCorn181 @texnonik @ƤØŢĀŤ0Co @nekorul troll map

you mean

nouingle

map?

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nouingle

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nouis3

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nouis4

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nouismas

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nouis1

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nouishuh

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nouis

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alienouis

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banouis

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no u

18:44

troll

18:49

@MilkeeyCat u

@gerdoe huh?

santatrollet

guys can i ask a question

18:58

I have connection problems in the game how to fix it

fix your connection?

troll

wtf

19:20

does it not work?

nekorul

you mean

nouingle

map?

to much 6 numbers justatest

justatest

the bans in ddnet are so rude, i got banned in blmap too omg

nouis

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omg, same! i only said some racist and sexist stuff

yeahh fk this game i only used aimbot

yeah this game sucks, i only doxxed someone!

nekorul

yeahh fk this game i only used aimbot

yea like bruuuh the map is called Aimbot

Voxel

yeah this game sucks, i only doxxed someone!

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

Voxel

(for legal reasons this is a joke)

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