DDraceNetwork - questions

Lilly

Is there a way to change the version of ddrace you play on through steam? Really wanting to go back to anything but 17.0

You can kinda do that by downloading the version that works for you on ddnet.org/downloads and then replace the game folder that steam uses with the old version.

00:51

I'd suggest prioritizing the relearning of muscle memory rather than relying on an outdated version of ddnet though.

What did old mouse mode do?

how do i upload a skin?

Tater

What did old mouse mode do?

It uses windows mouse movement and teleports the cursor instead of the raw mouse movement reported by the mouse

06:27

@Lilly raw mouse movement will probably give you more skill in the long run, because it is less random

What's the difference? Mouse acceleration?

Yes

06:29

And generally the mouse speed u set

Maybe this would work? https://mouseacceleration.com/

Mouse Acceleration - Complete sensitivity control.

Custom Curve makes sensitivity configuration simple with unmatched control and options.

just get used to it

If it overrides the raw input maybe

Oh it costs money nvm

06:31

But I'm sure there's similar for free

06:32

https://github.com/a1xd/rawaccel

GitHub - a1xd/rawaccel: kernel mode mouse accel

kernel mode mouse accel. Contribute to a1xd/rawaccel development by creating an account on GitHub.

Easy

It's rude to say to just get used to it. Mouse acceleration is a valid feature that people use competitively

Mh i doubt that

its not rude

Any example?

humans are amazing, they adapt rly fast, but they tend to be conformists with what they got already

https://youtu.be/SBXv0xi-wyQ

pinguefy

Is Mouse Accel actually good for shooters?

06:34

There is a small number of people who use it

06:34

I know some

thats like no argument

06:35

also i prefer text sources than yt vids, which ill for sure wont watch

Tater

There is a small number of people who use it

Anyway if they want it, they still should prefer it over raw input mode

06:35

Because the old mouse mode want really relative mouse movement anyway

Why would the rawaccel project have 1k stars if no one used it

Why do completely useless rust projects have 10k stars

06:37

cuz everybody uses rust justatest

Ryozuki

cuz everybody uses rust justatest

The funniest thing is actually, that the most downloaded rust projects have like 500 stars only

06:38

Syn and so

kinda funny cuz the first thing i do in my xinput is disable accel

Jupstar ✪

Syn and so

well its because they are deps

06:38

binary projects tend to have more stars

06:38

than libs

Ryozuki

kinda funny cuz the first thing i do in my xinput is disable accel

Yeah mouse accel is another random variable for our brain

06:38

Change mouse and u fucked

The issue is the windows mouse acceleration curve looks like this

I'd not recommend it tbh

Tater

The issue is the windows mouse acceleration curve looks like this

Lmao

Ryozuki

also i prefer text sources than yt vids, which ill for sure wont watch

i prefer non-text, makes it harder for AI to learn justatest

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Tater

https://github.com/a1xd/rawaccel

I use it

using mouse is actually very annoying

linux user detected

vim user detected

hey, i use neovim btw

changing your sensitivity can mess up your muscle memory

09:48

ofc terminal apps are very convenient

09:48

i can see why people use vim

move mouse 5px

09:48

click mouse1

emacs is best santatrollet

non ddnet question but can anyone help me with my pc? anyone knows about hardware stuff

u should ask your question

11:34

then someone will maybe answer if he can help u

Cactus

non ddnet question but can anyone help me with my pc? anyone knows about hardware stuff

dont ask to ask

so i changed some settings by acc on my bios (wanted to format pc) and i couldnt access bios at all today i unplugged the battery from the motherboard and re put it and pc wont boot at all

11:35

i just get 1 beep noise and nothing else

11:35

pc doesnt boot at all

what setting did u change

11:36

modern motherboards often have a reset button, to reset all motherboard settings

i have an old pc

11:37

https://youtu.be/3A44ciwimWs

MAPLE TAX SERVICE

HP EliteDesk 800 G1 booting from USB flash drive

11:37

i watched this vd since my usb wasnt appearing

11:37

after i did what he did i couldnt even see startup boot

11:38

black scree until login popped up

11:38

so i unplugged battery today re put it and now it wont boot

did u unplug the USB stick?

yes

11:41

rn pc wont boot at all

11:41

just 1 beep

11:41

and black screen

mh well normally the beep sound tells u the error, it should be mentioned by the motherboard manual have u tried to remove it from electricity etc.? Else u can probably only search the internet for the problem, it's very specific and hard to answer with this little information

i have searched and currently am

11:52

np ty for your help

Voxel

dont ask to ask

can i ask u something

can i ask you to ask you something

cyberFighter

can i ask u something

no

12:11

you already did

Jupstar ✪

@Lilly raw mouse movement will probably give you more skill in the long run, because it is less random

I already turned off mouse accel months ago. It was a pain to relearn literally everything (even outside of teeworlds)

13:20

Also mouse acceleration can be fine if you are used to it. The thing with "how viable" something is all depends on user preference / how developed someone's muscle memory is. Blatantly saying mouse accel is bad is just an opinion because you've been so used to without it.

well i only said it makes it more random

13:21

random stuff takes longer to learn

13:21

Yeah true, but muscle memory can still be built for it

i mean this curve is weird

Windows mouse accel is whack

13:22

I used mouse acceleration for years (albeit unknowingly) and it was windows mouse acceleration, which is widely considered the worst version of it. I still managed to climb ranks in multiple fps games and do hards / bruts in kog / ddr

Anyway, i'd say try it out, else i guess you need another work around. Sadly we cannot always make everyone happy. SDL, which is the fault for this change, is not coded by us

13:23

or use an older client

Windows mouse accel feels nice in desktop. Like browsing websites and shit

If you don't use mouse accel don't start though imo

Learath2

Windows mouse accel feels nice in desktop. Like browsing websites and shit

Completely agree with that honestly

13:24

I remember back when I was trying to figure out if I wanted to keep using it or not, a big issue for me was how un-smooth the mouse movements felt without mouse accel on

I do usually want to keep input the same between versions but this one is indeed a little out of our control. We need to update sdl for one reason but the new sdl doesn't have this relative input mode anymore

Kinda similar to how current "old mouse mode" feels now honestly

Jupstar ✪

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good thing neural network (like brain) can approximate everything

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_approximation_theorem

Universal approximation theorem

In the mathematical theory of artificial neural networks, universal approximation theorems are results that establish the density of an algorithmically generated class of functions within a given function space of interest. Typically, these results concern the approximation capabilities of the feedforward architecture on the space of continuous...

I did get a report of people feeling like the mouse movements were "quantized". I did try to reproduce it with no luck though

ehm, everything, especially in informatics, is quantized (edited)

13:48

that's the 1st year class i give

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actually, only math can be continuous afaik

then quantize more performance out of CPU chips

@GLOOFISHY

14:28

why i dont can go in multeasymap

What error message do you get? (edited)

hello why i dont can go in multeasymap

GLOOFISHY

hello why i dont can go in multeasymap

What error message do you get?

i dont have a error message just i dont can go