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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6631 Revert "Show official server icon in friends list"

This reverts commit fc3583a18e59c7ded88a6ca537d8ae95476a435d.

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valg...

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6631 Revert "Show official server icon in friends list"

I wonder if anyone have a blmapV2 map??

Robyt3

there is cl_friends_ignore_clan to ignore the clan

this option seems kind of useless with the way people use clans. maybe the clan should always be ignored if not explicitly requested

Jupstar ✪

discord ravie edition

this is roughly how it looks like in compact mode

ChillerDragon

@heinrich5991 when vanilla 0.6.5 dissector support o.O https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1684481242.png

ChillerDragon: probably never 0.6.5 dissector support. you can manually mark it as tw traffic

Ryozuki

a wireshark competitor

I don't see individual packets in the screenshots though

name

I wonder if anyone have a blmapV2 map??

huh?

do you think it would be plausible to multithread image resource access so the whole game does not have to wait on skins or assets to reload (edited)

A clicked decode as tw and that screenshot is the result. It does not detect most of the packets (@heinrich5991)

heinrich5991#9827

ChillerDragon: probably never 0.6.5 dissector support. you can manually mark it as tw traffic (<@749222324980416602_=43hiller=44ragon>)

how to make funvote (vote what does nothing)

add_vote <name> ""

07:34

if it was that order

07:34

btw better ask in #questions

I think ddnet.org/discord invite link expired or they ban tor idk

nice, u wanted to join dark side

no i wanted to see the server logo

07:44

but somehow it doesnt let me in with tor i guess

07:44

ah no its a tor thing

07:45

ok

07:45

they say invite invalid everywhere its weird

07:45

but its discord idk what i expected xd

07:45

could someone leak the server icon pls?

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wow a banner?

07:45

looks nice

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ah

07:46

where do banners even go?

what is a logo for u

the one in the servers list

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top left

07:46

are these banners new?

not really

i meant the one on the very left ty

but for u maybe xd

07:46

i already sent it bro

yes i know thanks

07:46

who made the banner?

07:47

it hot

i dunno i guess ravie?

07:47

its hot except the ugly orange tees :^)

lol

here chiller

07:48

since u missed all fun

07:48

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07:48

from voxel

pog but not very clean

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thats nice!

07:48

good bg

https://i.imgur.com/sMNF9St.png

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cring hallo

^ insanity

07:49

https://i.imgur.com/VtsHvdG.jpeg

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looks like the art style from da one yter

07:49

yes

ManniK

ty for sharing all dis

07:50

@nouis u got ur banner in a higher res too?

07:50

i wanna buy

https://i.imgur.com/elzbuXJ.png

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07:51

from insanity too

thats looks familiar

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wtf xd

my photo has been mangled (edited)

ChillerDragon

pog but not very clean

itd not look as good if it was clean

08:00

refering to my image

i add some file in the project

08:27

and i try to compile the progject and

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08:27

how to solve this

08:27

LNK2001 error (edited)

08:27

thanks for help

if you’re declaring a variable as extern, you need to provide it a definition as well

ok i will look for the error

do you have any new extern variables?

08:29

and for the record I can’t read any of this

08:30

also, if you’re using CMake, you need to regenerate your solution with cmake -G or the GUI (with the new files in your cmakelists)

where are the kill tiles handled? cant seem to find it

what about the kill tiles

o/ this message was sent from https://chat.zillyhuhn.com/

08:33

!jup thats what i needed the logo for xd i built discord lokking frontend for irc

@Jupstar ✪

Ewan

what about the kill tiles

like what file

08:34

i wanna toy around with making them /r if you are in practice

ws-client

!jup thats what i needed the logo for xd i built discord lokking frontend for irc

epic xd

on irc its instant im sure there is a bit delay to discord

08:35

try sending a message xd

Broso56

i wanna toy around with making them /r if you are in practice

i can’t remember what /r does

<script>alert("xss safe?");</script>

xd

i have a confession i only code in ddnet because im better at editing code than writing my own code

<style>* { background-color: green; }</style>

08:38

a FUCK

08:38

all green now xd

greem

UwU

Ewan

i can’t remember what /r does

it tps u to the last spot u were alive and unfreezes u

Voxel

i have a confession i only code in ddnet because im better at editing code than writing my own code

in theory i could learn rust by editing preexisting rust code

08:52

but it still hurts my head

Broso56

it tps u to the last spot u were alive and unfreezes u

i looked around a bit and for whatever reason it doesn't look like its determination is as simple as something like a freeze tile is

09:02

CCharacter::HandleTiles does most of it like this/

09:03

    if(((m_TileIndex == TILE_FREEZE) || (m_TileFIndex == TILE_FREEZE)) && !m_Core.m_Super && !m_Core.m_DeepFrozen)
    {
        Freeze();
    }
    else if(((m_TileIndex == TILE_UNFREEZE) || (m_TileFIndex == TILE_UNFREEZE)) && !m_Core.m_DeepFrozen)
        UnFreeze();

09:04

this is at the start of CCharacter::HandleSkippableTiles in game/server/entities/character.cpp and is probably what you want

    // handle death-tiles and leaving gamelayer
    if((Collision()->GetCollisionAt(m_Pos.x + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetCollisionAt(m_Pos.x + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetCollisionAt(m_Pos.x - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetCollisionAt(m_Pos.x - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetFCollisionAt(m_Pos.x + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetFCollisionAt(m_Pos.x + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetFCollisionAt(m_Pos.x - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetFCollisionAt(m_Pos.x - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH) &&
        !m_Core.m_Super && !(Team() && Teams()->TeeFinished(m_pPlayer->GetCID())))
    {
        Die(m_pPlayer->GetCID(), WEAPON_WORLD);
        return;
    }

    if(GameLayerClipped(m_Pos))
    {
        Die(m_pPlayer->GetCID(), WEAPON_WORLD);
        return;
    }

09:04

nice code guys

lul

09:04

check out rust

09:04

the best lang

rust doesn't fix that

that was me

09:05

trying the chat

if(condition) {
  doOneThing();
}
if(otherCondition)
  doOneOtherThing();

09:05

oic

in that chat i didnt even see ur code properly

09:05

since it spam line per line or smth

09:05

xd

@Ewan please stop sending code snippets

lul he hates it

09:06

your bridge getting blown up im sure

!ryo maybe one day ill add code snippet thingy but u like it so far? xd

@Ryozuki

what if i were to... edit some indentation......

09:06

i forgot to ping you @Broso56

chiller

09:07

check out edlang

ye

09:07

oof

edlang

today i added rly basic type inference

im not sure why i should

you gotta sell it more

cuz i made it

sounds like work idk what to do with it

does it do my laundry

u cant do much rn

09:07

just fiddle with numbers

09:07

i didnt even add a print yet

what's 9+10

yea ill try when u added print xd

xd

Ewan

this is at the start of CCharacter::HandleSkippableTiles in game/server/entities/character.cpp and is probably what you want

    // handle death-tiles and leaving gamelayer
    if((Collision()->GetCollisionAt(m_Pos.x + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetCollisionAt(m_Pos.x + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetCollisionAt(m_Pos.x - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetCollisionAt(m_Pos.x - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetFCollisionAt(m_Pos.x + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetFCollisionAt(m_Pos.x + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetFCollisionAt(m_Pos.x - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH ||
           Collision()->GetFCollisionAt(m_Pos.x - GetProximityRadius() / 3.f, m_Pos.y + GetProximityRadius() / 3.f) == TILE_DEATH) &&
        !m_Core.m_Super && !(Team() && Teams()->TeeFinished(m_pPlayer->GetCID())))
    {
        Die(m_pPlayer->GetCID(), WEAPON_WORLD);
        return;
    }

    if(GameLayerClipped(m_Pos))
    {
        Die(m_pPlayer->GetCID(), WEAPON_WORLD);
        return;
    }

ye meeu pointed me in the same direction, should hopefully be good enough to implement it idk

09:08

ty though

meeu know code?

!ryo wat are the lang goals?

@Ryozuki

idk yet

will it be safe or sumsin?

gotta figure out

09:08

probs not safe, idk how to code a borrow checker

Ewan

meeu know code?

yes

meeuclown

1

swag

!ryo make it so its safe for me to include !edlang eval into chilerbot

@Ryozuki

Ryozuki

probs not safe, idk how to code a borrow checker

reference check

09:09

ez

i gotta figure out how type inference works if i ever add generics

type inference is a joke

09:09

in cpp it's carried by literal disambiguators

09:09

auto e = 10u; unsigned int

09:09

yadda

09:09

basic stuff should be ez tho

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindley%E2%80%93Milner_type_system

Hindley–Milner type system

A Hindley–Milner (HM) type system is a classical type system for the lambda calculus with parametric polymorphism. It is also known as Damas–Milner or Damas–Hindley–Milner. It was first described by J. Roger Hindley and later rediscovered by Robin Milner. Luis Damas contributed a close formal analysis and proof of the method in his PhD thesis.Am...

09:12

yesterday i added basic CFG

09:12

so i can do if else now

smiley

what

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6632 Allow viewing star rating of map inside of the server browser

I think it would be cool to see star rating of maps in the server browser. This could be done by either making the server motd show up somewhere or just show the stars next to the map name. Or really any other way to display this information within the client before joining a server. I've drawn a mockup of what I would expect this feature to look like: !possible implementations mockup

ruski csgo

!:justatest:

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omg pog

11:12

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!

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lol nice

ikr

11:14

!rust fn foo(): str { return "hello"; }

@Ryozuki

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literally discord with irc as backend

11:16

ok ima put build real discord in half a day on my CV now

Vinson

and i try to compile the progject and

i add sth that defined in my own file. (edited)

Vinson

i add sth that defined in my own file. (edited)

and i add it in the gameclient.cpp

11:41

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11:42

and error LNK2001 (edited)

Has it always been the case that players here are sorted by their time descending? The player with the worst time is at the top. Both on nightly and 16.9

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Ewan

if you’re declaring a variable as extern, you need to provide it a definition as well

i did not declar any var as extern

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11:52

these files with g_pData have the LNK errors

11:52

how to solve

hus3h

Has it always been the case that players here are sorted by their time descending? The player with the worst time is at the top. Both on nightly and 16.9

maybe it was forgotten when time scores were added

hus3h

Has it always been the case that players here are sorted by their time descending? The player with the worst time is at the top. Both on nightly and 16.9

@heinrich5991

Vinson

these files with g_pData have the LNK errors

anyone help me

With what? (@Vinson)

anyone help me (@Vinson)

chillerdragon

With what? (@Vinson)

the problem i send

u mean the one from 13:41 i dont get it what is LNK2001? xd do you get a compile error? can you show the full error or even share your repo?

hus3h

Has it always been the case that players here are sorted by their time descending? The player with the worst time is at the top. Both on nightly and 16.9

its a bug i think, it started happening the same time the other bugs happened

12:37

like scrambled order in scoreboard ingame, not updating scoreboard time for a while after finish, etc

Vinson

the problem i send

Did you create new .h or .cpp files? If so then you gotta add that to the CMakeLists.txt i think

where is the /r check for if the player is in the air/freeze? wanted to add another check for kill but i cant find where thats done, tried looking in the rescue function and Load but cant really find anything related to it

!jup new screen arrived and is boring af xd

@Jupstar ✪

total waste of money xd

15:48

well ok to be fair i did buy it to feel exactly like my old one and just fix the tearing and indeed it did xd

15:49

it doesnt look any sharper or nicer xd which is fair i guess but it also doesnt feel any smoother than my suuuuuper old cheaper 60hz monitor xd

15:49

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15:49

do u know why the menu does not offer more than 60hz?

15:51

but buy this screen comes with his own set of problems xd freeze is so washy feels like i am drunk xd

15:52

nvm it glitchy af xd good i also ordered a new pc just in case xd

Broso56

where is the /r check for if the player is in the air/freeze? wanted to add another check for kill but i cant find where thats done, tried looking in the rescue function and Load but cant really find anything related to it

search for m_Core.m_IsInFreeze = false in character.cpp (server-side). it remembers the location for rescue when the tee is not in freeze and not in the air with SetRescue();

15:58

doing rescue for kill tiles would be harder, because kill immediately ends the run as far as I know, so you need to make the tee spec and give them a choice to rescue or restart when they hit a kill tile

i mean my testing was fairly limited but for the most part the feature worked fine, the only reason i need that check is because you can get tped inside of a kill tile which makes you unable to move and spams /r infinitely, so unless i would have to refactor how thats done that part already works

16:02

but ye ty ill look into that

!c no hate but if u cant feel difference between 60hz and 144hz then u lost af xD

ChillerDragon

if menu doesnt offer more than 60hz then u didnt even set it to 144hz yet lmao

16:11

undefined behavior sanitizer as anime

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xd

!jup yea maybe the screen is 60hz by default would be weird tho rght?

@Jupstar ✪

i dont trust gnome

16:12

xrandr -r 144

i did notice a hughe diff when i bought my new laptop with 120hz its so much more smooth even on gnome desktop

if it fails then pc issue

but this screen is borin af

16:13

Rate 144.00 Hz not available for this size

16:13

i got scammed xd

lmao, but tbf

16:13

could be ur GPU

rly?

with 4090 it should work

16:13

yes

gpu can say no?

yep

watf

16:13

ok good that i bought new one then

display port also has limitations

16:13

and hdmi

i mean 980 is kinda top of the line

16:14

or was 10yrs ago

16:17

!jup jup japster check out my new setup!!! it loooks wastly different than my old one

@Jupstar ✪

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lmao

16:18

1:1 same

ikr

16:18

also irl it feels 99% same

16:18

just colors are worse

16:18

and even on max birghtness this lumen suck ass

16:19

funny after how many years later i can buy the same screen in more expensive and its worse.

16:19

gotta love inflation

!c here AI generated your dream setup for u

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ChillerDragon

wotefek

16:20

hot

16:20

go green vape nation

wtf is ws-client

https://chat.zillyhuhn.com/

16:21

its nicer for image viewing than weechat xd

16:21

eventho i have gotten really good at imagining how the image would look like based on the discord cdn url

the heck these pfps lmfao

16:21

they're high af

yea.. its placeholders for now xd

16:22

high?

test

its teeish

ah lol u can simply type in, nice

yes its free to use

16:22

no accounts no nothing

16:22

as it should be

and beatiful af

16:25

discord is almost as good as this

buggy

wot?

16:25

how

does it allow multi-line btw

no its irc based xd

foo bar

16:27

foo\n bar

Robyt3

search for m_Core.m_IsInFreeze = false in character.cpp (server-side). it remembers the location for rescue when the tee is not in freeze and not in the air with SetRescue();

seems to work fine, ty lmao

16:36

i just had to copy the killtile collision code which probably isnt the best idea but it works xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6633 Client doesn't save `inp_mousesens` for some reason

``` Devinci — Today at 7:21 PM Does someone know how to make so that my "ingame mouse sens" doesn't reset to 200 every time? I try lowering it but every time I leave the game it goes back to 200 gerdoe — Today at 7:23 PM it should not reset it lol seems client crashes every time you close it Devinci — Today at 7:23 PM I said when I close it, but I think I don't even need to I don't really know when it does reset Devinci — Today at 7:24 PM and I don't think so. Cause I have no issue...

16:46

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6633 Client doesn't save `inp_mousesens` for some reason

test

anyone can send msges from there?

16:53

justatest

yup

seems like a disaster waiting to happen once 1 person abuses it

ez spam

yes pls dont abuse ._.

16:55

i can trust u guys

16:55

.. right?

16:55

worked wonderfully last time when lerato deleted the drive of my raspberry pi xd

yes trust me

You can trust my bot. It only malfunctioned that one time and honestly it won't miss those files.

ChillerDragon

worked wonderfully last time when lerato deleted the drive of my raspberry pi xd

yup

Broso56

i wanna toy around with making them /r if you are in practice

I don't think this is a good idea. instead, you should have to manually press /r after you die in /practice IMO

Voxel

i have a confession i only code in ddnet because im better at editing code than writing my own code

that's AMAZING, everyone will love you for this ^^ people usually say the opposite thing

heinrich5991

I don't think this is a good idea. instead, you should have to manually press /r after you die in /practice IMO

i mean that would work as well but i dont really see much of an issue with it auto rescuing you

Broso56

i mean that would work as well but i dont really see much of an issue with it auto rescuing you

by doing it automatically, you might get weird effects

17:20

e.g. constantly being pushed into death tiles after /r

17:20

or pushing other tees away from the place where you spawn with /r

i guess yea

17:20

but if it becomes too much of an issue they can /tp out no?

17:21

the main thing that annoyed me was if someone didnt react fast enough they would have to /practice again and then /tp back to the spot they died

17:21

tping out of a spot isnt as annoying

just put the player that hit death tiles in a special state where they can spectate and use /r to rescue

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6634 Fix use of invalid text container index for finish message HUD

Crash from assertion error reported on Discord.

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memchec...

that special state might also be good for death tiles after finishing in etam

17:26

so that you're out of the world, but not killed

17:26

the kill immunity is really just a source of bugs ^^

17:26

also, it'd fix the problem of falling outside the map after finishing

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

68d2d46 Fix use of invalid text container index for finish message HUD - Robyt3 59bc23f Merge #6634 - bors[bot]

17:57

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6634 Fix use of invalid text container index for finish message HUD

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5892 refactor ingame and menu browsertabs

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4561 Add timescore to HTTP server info

hi i want a make own client but i know nothing and where need i start? (edited)

heinrich5991

that's AMAZING, everyone will love you for this ^^ people usually say the opposite thing

wait, really? i always thought it was more of a flex when you coded your own prpjects

It's more of a flex, but flex isn't appreciated as much as help

can somebody help me shy

shy

ywkup

can somebody help me shy

shy

depends on what you need help with

Learath2

depends on what you need help with

how can i make own client

19:27

and which language use for this

Only option is C++

19:28

You just learn C++, clone the source and start modifying it

oh ok thx

Voxel

wait, really? i always thought it was more of a flex when you coded your own prpjects

look at Robyt3

19:30

he's literally shaping out this 20 years old project

yea this puts it all into perspective

19:32

i guess its easier for me to recognize patterns than create patterns

its like looking at somebody's artwork

19:33

you see every problematic piece

19:34

if you can understand process of art tho

yeah definitely

19:36

i guess my next step is to look at more complex code

19:38

like i know how to send and recieve packets now, i know how to work namespaces, i know a tiny bit about how to treat classes

I still think you'd benefit from doing a couple formal exercises. Like implementing a data structure, implementing an algorithm + making one program that you think might be useful

Voxel

like i know how to send and recieve packets now, i know how to work namespaces, i know a tiny bit about how to treat classes

learn more about packet packing, data compressing and snapshot system in tw

19:45

they're quake alike

doesn't have to be a massive program either, a lot of the people I tutor go for a todo program e.g.

gerdoe

they're quake alike

so i mean they're not that hard to understand

gerdoe

learn more about packet packing, data compressing and snapshot system in tw

is packet packing different than creating and sending a packet

Voxel

is packet packing different than creating and sending a packet

if you think that filling up *netmsg is packet packing its not

im interested in these new terms :o

afair there's packer.h/cpp

Voxel

i guess its easier for me to recognize patterns than create patterns

thats because u need more xp

i cant wait to become good at cpp and rust so i can help make ddnet 2.0

1

20:18

since i know rust will become a heavy part of ddnet soon

why so?

just ask ryoz

ah I see xD

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6635 Update french translations (by Sukya)

@snailx3 @Chairn anyone want to review?

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https...

idk why im getting so curious over rust now

just learn it

21:19

kek

but its sooo complicated!!!!

21:20

and idek what to make

21:20

if anything i thought itd be funny to transcribe the vulkan code into rust

I'm having fun getting entity data YEP

YEP

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21:23

I need to program all of the rest gamemode entities too

21:24

I wanna kms

Voxel

but its sooo complicated!!!!

have you looked into tutorials

read the web book

the rust by example thing is sweet

21:26

Just Do It

Ewan

have you looked into tutorials

no because they're all "hiii heres how to write hello world!"

you need to move yourself out of the mindset that you're above that

here is how to write "hello world" which results in segfault (edited)

your expectations of a guide can't be met because nobody knows your experience level in other languages & what you will and won't understand about this one

21:27

so unfortunately you will have to learn about stuff you think you already know

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sometimes you will be surprised about what you thought you knew that is actually different in x scenario

u need to learn programming as is too

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do u truly understand for loop,s do u know what arrays are, how to deal with em, etc

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idk if u rly know that

known issue? 14 seconds worse on a 13 seconds finish makes no sense

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i think there have been time related issues jup

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something to do with client version

no because tutorials online dont teach that "hiii heres how to make a guessing game!!!

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you're saying online tutorials don't teach you about loops & arrays

not the ones i see

Jupstar ✪

known issue? 14 seconds worse on a 13 seconds finish makes no sense

tell me the server is old

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i fixed this

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search the commit

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. /info

which ver did the fix come out with

ddnet servers are not deployed on a tag

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rather master at a current time

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iirc

mine has both

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16.9 and hash

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usa1

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but yea ig if they are re-rolled by commit and not tag that wouldn't matter

Ryozuki

tell me the server is old

2023-05-20 23:32:24 I chat: DDraceNetwork Mod. Version: 0.6.4, 16.9 2023-05-20 23:32:24 I chat: Git revision hash: 3f890d1c08715624

search the 3f890d1c08715624

21:34

ah its old i think

blessed

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commits/3f890d1c08715624

Commits · ddnet/ddnet

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ye

which server?

it doesnt have my commit

21:34

soi its broken cuz it hasnt updated

@Jupstar ✪ how do recommend learning Vulkan? Or do you recommend learning OpenGL first?

vk is harder, so opengl helps, but in the end i'd recommend to just getting startet

https://vulkan-tutorial.com/

Introduction - Vulkan Tutorial

A tutorial that teaches you everything it takes to render 3D graphics with the Vulkan API. It covers everything from Windows/Linux setup to rendering and debugging.

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best website

the first week is random anyway, ur brain will not understand everything directly

i wanna retake vulkan someday

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in rust

after using it a bit the concepts start to make sense

Ryozuki

https://vulkan-tutorial.com/

yeah i used this for example too

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also depends if u want to target desktop computers

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then u can skip the "static" rendering pipeline, and use the modern dynamic one which is easier and more intuitive to start with

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"This extension allows applications to create single-pass render pass instances without needing to create render pass objects or framebuffers. Dynamic render passes can also span across multiple primary command buffers, rather than relying on secondary command buffers."

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https://registry.khronos.org/vulkan/specs/1.3-extensions/man/html/VK_KHR_dynamic_rendering.html

cool gonna get started right away then :)

isn't starting with opengl makes it easier to understand vulkan in the future

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bruh my english is so broken

well what do u even want to understand is the question

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opengl wont teach u anything about math

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it teaches u how to combine buffers with shaders basically

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so if u want to focus on getting started then yes opengl is good

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vulkan will teach you about memory management from GPUs/drivers etc

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multithreaded in mind

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in theory u could simply write a OpenGL wrapper in VK

so OpenGL is kinda a subset

hmm... I think I'm gonna read vulkan till I give up and read opengl after xD

u cant betray vulkan

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u can't

I can knot

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