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Between 2023-05-15 00:00:00Z and 2023-05-16 00:00:00Z

[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit

da2848b M Starlit Peaks, M oco - ddnet-maps

ClDummy indicate who is the ACTIVE player between you and the dummy right?

05:46

A GitHub bot?

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Learath2

I'm fairly sure the testing people disagree :/

should be fixed

06:27

15 days till june, aka c++20 revolution warning_icon

warning_icon

XD

will c++20 get a borrow checker?

Ryozuki

should be fixed

the tele0 thing? or the map?

tele0 works as expected

06:56

map is wrong

ChillerDragon

will c++20 get a borrow checker?

No, u

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6591 add unit test for updating teamranks

add unit test for updating teamranks fixes #6113

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[x] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's mem...

Yeah add random stuff and if u notice maps won't work anymore just remove them lol

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

e75a763 add unit test for updating teamranks - edg-l 9161504 Merge #6591 - bors[bot]

08:12

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6113 Add unit test for updating teamranks

08:12

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6591 add unit test for updating teamranks

Cøke

Yeah add random stuff and if u notice maps won't work anymore just remove them lol

nothing random was added, just a fix

08:22

"lol"

Other maps waiting for nice fixes too

08:25

Shouldn't check it b4

08:27

Inexplicable how you can fix something without checking the 2000 maps if you break something kek

kek

Cøke

Other maps waiting for nice fixes too

then go fix them

08:32

this will help you https://en.cppreference.com/w/

Why should I fix game features And break the best maps

this fix is pretty mild, if it was used bya apri fools joke even more

08:34

anyway its done and wont be reverted, so the map should be fixed or just dont play it

I don't care what was fixed, only should be checked before whether maps use these "bugs

thats impossible

It's not like that 1000 maps use bugs

08:35

Only a handful

yeah, but u need to have the prior knowledge that this "bug" is used at all, or that it will affect something, you simply dont think about it

08:36

and u coming here off with that attitude doesnth elp

I mean it's teeworlds

anyway idk why i even care talking here

Bcs u talk all day here

yeah, i care too much

08:37

it sucks

justatest

08:37

Care too much or something different

08:38

monkaS

i mean when u work from home and can have discord open

08:38

and u get bored

08:38

why not talk here

08:38

gigachad

why not write rust instead ?

im lazy too

08:39

and since i write rust at work..

We could check if maps still work after patches. We would just need a complete input recording for every full run of every map and for every player of the team. Then we play back the input recording and see if the run still finishes with the code changes.

Ryozuki

this will help you https://en.cppreference.com/w/

WTF!!!

Image attachment

08:43

ddnet referen

LMAO

Robyt3

We could check if maps still work after patches. We would just need a complete input recording for every full run of every map and for every player of the team. Then we play back the input recording and see if the run still finishes with the code changes.

sounds a bit complicated for only a handful of maps that use bugs

08:45

I mean only important bugs btw

You can't know in advance which maps use bugs, if the bug is only know when it is fixed

08:46

How do you know what an important bug is?

Who can't know? justatest

justatest

08:46

When it's used to complete a map

A random person contributing code to ddnet can't know about all map bugs, including bugs that have never been published or known at all

I think i can point out all of them

Why didn't you comment on the PR then? bluekitty

bluekitty

What im not a PC guy

08:48

Just askin

Well, I'm not a maps guy

Alles gut Robert

XD

I think you two should do a dragonball type fusion to create the ultimate bug-hunting form

But I need soapy for it

08:49

And Jimmy

Skystrife, too

Supporting input recordings would allow TAS though justatest

justatest

Duuude, DDNet TAS runs are so fun to watch (edited)

08:50

Have you seen what Headshot does in his private server?

But TAS are probably banned on other servers, right?

08:52

So you can only use it on your own

08:52

And if it was added to official client, then we would need a flag to prevent using it on servers that don't allow it

Cøke

What im not a PC guy

whats a pc guy

08:52

npc

Robyt3

But TAS are probably banned on other servers, right?

Yeah, they're not connected to the leaderboard, or any official server

08:53

https://youtu.be/S-wUbypuwhI

[Teeworlds TAS] "Joyride" in 01:19.22 (-1.22 improvement)

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08:53

nice edit

justatest

I didn't want to sound like I did them because I genuinely don't

Ryozuki

whats a pc guy

u

saved

Voxel

https://youtu.be/S-wUbypuwhI

It's definitely a suitable game for TAS

Though the one main question about if we ever WERE to implement it is, how would we go by optimizing it if we were to share these runs around?

!ryo aaa

09:19

@Ryozuki sos i think your py decompression code has bugs ._.

never claimed otherwise

Py... Makes sense

09:29

ChillerDragon we need a command to ping u

@Jupstar ✪ gh contributors still hasnt updated

09:31

i feel lied

!jup tru

@Jupstar ✪

ryo watf ur huffman uses 100% cpu of one core since 7mins to decompress 20 bytes xd

09:41

jup what command u want to ping me?

09:42

!add_ping_pong c ChillerDragon

09:42

!c

ChillerDragon

Nice

09:44

!c++ ChillerDragon++

wtf

09:45

!add_ping_ping c++ ChillerDragon++

09:45

aowdng

09:45

!add_ping_pong c++ ChillerDragon++

Now !c 1+1 not working anymore btw

never planned to add c

09:45

only js

It was there

wat

It said. Ub

ah true

Or segfault

ur right

09:45

was very funi

09:46

i really dc

But who cares, now it's gone

pick watever cmd u want to ping me

It's ok like dis

09:46

!c++

ChillerDragon++

xd

Epic enough

it pings ffs

09:48

if rust pings ryo and c++ pings me we need !nim to ping deen axax

09:50

!vulkan i added !nim for deen now :)

@Jupstar ✪

True

09:50

Epic

!rust merge my py pr or riot

@Ryozuki

we gonna revive TeeAI pog

Ewan

this april fools thing is the closest you can probably get to obfuscation lol

but I think we shouldn't hold back on fixing the obfuscation

10:14

also, it's not really useless nowadays; I can still use it to get unreadable text etc.

10:18

ChillerDragon: should I publish my libtw2 huffman for python?

10:19

it's pretty battle-tested

heinrich5991

     17 "types/brutal/maps/Intercepter.map"
      3 "types/dummy/maps/Pace.map"
    154 "types/moderate/maps/Sky Stone.map"
     24 "types/moderate/maps/oco.map"
      1 "types/solo/maps/GetSpeed2.map"

@Cøke the potentially broken maps are here ^

@heinrich5991 oh yes please :)

10:26

would kill my nice zero depency package but its worth it i guess

im a blogger https://edgarluque.com/blog/daily-gentoo/

Gentoo as a daily driver

My experience using Gentoo

10:27

wanted to write something, even if its bad and short xd

size doesnt matter they say

Ryozuki

im a blogger https://edgarluque.com/blog/daily-gentoo/

Nice, just a "it should use more rust tho is missing"

xd

10:35

!c++

ChillerDragon++

i merged ur prs

pog pog

10:56

https://github.com/edg-l/TeeAI/graphs/contributors

Contributors to edg-l/TeeAI

A project that probably i'll never end... Contribute to edg-l/TeeAI development by creating an account on GitHub.

10:56

i hijacked ur repo ez

10:57

did u ever get ur bot running and not crash? for me its full of python import errors and nonetype errors

read the project description

ye ye i red but i mean u changed ur email or whatever and now in the contributors tab its only me xd

11:41

also saw the comment about it not working but kinda assumed it would work more

@Ryozuki how far did you get (TeeAI). I (and some other friends) used StableBaselines3 and got somewhat respectibly far but then hit a wall where it just gets stuck :(

i never got into makign the actual ai

11:45

xd

oh xD makes sense

@Mr.Gh0s7 is your project public?

ofc

send

https://github.com/Inateblig/KoGAI

ah that

ye (edited)

u explained me alr and i forgot how it worked

12:13

u made some fifo adjustments right?

yeah to the ddnet client so the python gets the input

chot

12:14

gigachad ryo rewrote whole tw in python

ye xD

I am Ryozuki

!ryo i mede another big pog pr

@Ryozuki

i commented out your code and called it a fix

13:16

fokkonaut imposter sus

13:17

!nim rocks

deen

axaxax

deen zuts

xd

13:17

deez

ChillerDragon fears to ping deen lmao

ofc

13:19

he big wig

13:19

i only ping him on irc

K

bigwig*

13:19

noun

13:19

A very important person.

13:19

such a cool word

13:20

im trying to fancy up my english like lerato

13:20

but irc pings useless

13:20

im trying to reach fstd in forver

13:20

fstd:

13:20

fstd: u ok?

13:21

!mail fstd u ok?

13:22

@heinrich5991 lemme know in case you published the huffman py package i wanna preorder now! Ill instantly kick out ryos garbage axaxax

13:22

no offense babe ryOwO

!c

Segmentation fault

merged

pogpog

13:23

u like?

its nice

pog

but im not touching python

did not expect anything else

13:24

based rust dev

13:25

!add_ping_pong c ChillerDragon

13:25

seems like bot reboot added segfaults again

13:25

ill kick em out

13:25

more important to pinger me

sometimes i believe chillerdragon is an alien

wot i hooman

proof tee capture

axax

14:42

Embedded image

14:43

i see 6 unfrozen tees

14:43

ez hooman

ChillerDragon

Click to see attachment 🖼️

how many of these screenshots exist

out data engineering team collected a uncrackable amount of 22 images https://github.com/TeeCaptcha/data

GitHub - TeeCaptcha/data: Captcha image data

Captcha image data . Contribute to TeeCaptcha/data development by creating an account on GitHub.

14:45

with well obfuscated solutions https://github.com/TeeCaptcha/data/blob/master/22/solution.json

data/solution.json at master · TeeCaptcha/data

Captcha image data . Contribute to TeeCaptcha/data development by creating an account on GitHub.

14:45

our*

14:46

google recaptcha team tried to buy us multiple times but we declined since we are confident we will exceed googles market share

justatest

xd

Mr.Gh0s7

The best idea so far is to get the input from /dev/input/eventX. Where X would correspond to the mouse event eg /dev/input/event3

I am now using libinput to find the /dev/input/eventX for the mouses and to interpret them so I can get each mouse's input separetely. I'm guessing this is a Linux-only solution though (maybe UNIX too idk). In windows maybe you could run it with wsl.

imagine if google actually bought ddnet, do you think it'll become closed source almost immediately

google does some open src too

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but yea idk if there are big corpos that have open source games not that i am aware of

14:54

i guess the biggest opensourceish game is minecraft

14:54

publishing the source code is illegal but decompiling isnt and ms even shares the class and var name mappings these days so its legally closed src but technically open src

Voxel

imagine if google actually bought ddnet, do you think it'll become closed source almost immediately

They'll abandon it the moment they see the source code kek

kek

but i guess google would just offer roby a job and go closed src to better avoid botters

ChillerDragon

publishing the source code is illegal but decompiling isnt and ms even shares the class and var name mappings these days so its legally closed src but technically open src

imagine minecraft does go open source and people actually make it run faster

or make better hack clients

it is the case rn already @Voxel

ChillerDragon

but i guess google would just offer roby a job and go closed src to better avoid botters

nah they'd make it closed source to extract people's info

the paper and spigot ppl get the mappings from ms as i said so they have the code and their performant patches get merged into the official game from time to time

Voxel

nah they'd make it closed source to extract people's info

making teeworlds p2w with the skins

14:56

oh no, that means google will buy teeskins db too

thats more valve buying it xd

justatest

ChillerDragon

the paper and spigot ppl get the mappings from ms as i said so they have the code and their performant patches get merged into the official game from time to time

You sure? I remember them extracting the hooks from the jar

google will put ads and sell users data but keep everything free

14:57

@Learath2 they started doing that at some point

they dont get mappings iirc

they did not use to

popping advertisements on MOTD

https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn

GitHub - FabricMC/yarn: Libre Minecraft mappings, free to use for e...

Libre Minecraft mappings, free to use for everyone. No exceptions. - GitHub - FabricMC/yarn: Libre Minecraft mappings, free to use for everyone. No exceptions.

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thats why there was yarn

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the unofficial mappings

ChillerDragon

https://github.com/FabricMC/yarn

pog

libremappings xd

14:59

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-snapshot-19w36a

14:59

Obfuscation maps are now published with all future releases of the game

15:01

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-for real

15:02

wait no

15:03

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frfr

fr

Mr.Gh0s7

I am now using libinput to find the /dev/input/eventX for the mouses and to interpret them so I can get each mouse's input separetely. I'm guessing this is a Linux-only solution though (maybe UNIX too idk). In windows maybe you could run it with wsl.

Hooray! Now just need to pass it to godot (for 3D) or to tw (for 2D) ;)

honestly no idea where this fr meme comes from or what it means or why it is a thing xd

15:57

ban

15:57

@ReiTW

gigachad

15:58

feelsthinkingman

feelsscary

ChillerDragon

out data engineering team collected a uncrackable amount of 22 images https://github.com/TeeCaptcha/data

lmao got me

Robyt3

It's definitely a suitable game for TAS

do you think ddnet will become its own movie maker if TAS input handling is added

16:43

ive talked about this too much but i cant code it for the life of me

!ryo sent another two prs but now im kinda stuck without looking things up i dont really know 0.6 or ddnet protocol only 0.7 xd

@Ryozuki

!rust

@Ryozuki

im playing ddnet

ye dw but for the unlikley case of me continuing tomorrow it would be nice if its merged until then

17:36

but if i understood it correctly i need ddnet uuids now and i never bothered to understand how they work yet soo...

:D

17:40

thank for voice

irc pog

ping pong

!ping

pong

ohh work ping

!c

ChillerDragon

pinger

!python import os; os.print("test");

today rain is not good

@Voxal python is banned us !sh instead

also wait what's the deal with irc/matrix

!sh test

bash: test: command not found

xd

voxel

hi

@Voxel wdym? matrix is pretty hyped and on irc there is basically just me and now this DkrTremos guy and sometimes heinrich pops in here

ohh

17:43

idk i dont hear much about matrix

but ye @Voxel try the !sh thing i added many new features xd

17:43

mostly linux not much bash yet

!sh uptime

bash: uptime: command not found

there are not many commands

which network are we parallel?

!sh rustup

bash: rustup: command not found

DkrTremos: used to be freenode and quakenet idk if freenode is still a thing

17:44

also bridged to matrix and a discord channel

ohh ok

basically all bridge ppl are discord

!sh :(){:|:&};:

bash error

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bash error

axaxaxax

bash error

HAHHA

17:45

CHILLER

:justatest:

justatest

1

17:45

does this emoji even arrive on dc?

no

F

17:45

:pepesad:

saddo

1

its ok i reacted with it

ty

idk things like this are why i love this server sometimes

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17:47

png be like xd

just the pure interactivity of learning how to ruin chiller's raspberry pi

xd

i love interactivity in general

!add_ping_pong :justatest: https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/justatest.png

Embedded image

17:49

!:justatest:

Embedded image

dis look good?

yea but the emoji is more like.. hold on

can u send a screen pls

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and mine too

17:49

i wanna see how it looks on dc

17:50

Embedded image

Image attachment

for me crap look like this

17:50

wowo so big xd

yeah but im mobilr

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mobile

17:51

anywaye, like, is this pure terminal?

its pure javascript actually

17:52

wait my irc client or !sh ?

ryoz is going to bully you

17:52

your client

my irc client is weechat

17:52

like the china app

17:52

pog pog i can send money here

xd

nah jk its just a terminal thingie

yeah i thought so

https://weechat.org/

WeeChat, the extensible chat client

WeeChat, the extensible chat client

what can you do in it that discord cant

use a terminal client

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its against discord tos to use a terminal client actually

17:53

in general i have way more freedom what to do and not do

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also its much more lightweight

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and doesnt spy on me

17:54

free software

17:55

i sometimes regret deleting whatsapp but leaving discord and windows behind makes me happy every day

when windows 10 support ends ill consider linux

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but then again i wouldnt know how to run it as a casual computer user

Trust me I am as casual as it gets just get some gnome it’s fool proof

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Installation is the hardest part usage is easy

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18:29

minecraft copyright expired in 2023

18:29

imma claim that

18:29

!jup lawyer juspti is that legal?

@Jupstar ✪

scroll to da bottom here https://www.minecraft.net/en-us

sadly not ;/

fk

18:31

dont ask me why i browse minecraft hp

don't we all do from time to time

tru

@Ryozuki For some reason rustup override does not work with Visual Studio, so I needed to set the default toolchain to stable-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc so fix VS compilation

ohh

19:30

document it xd

!rust its your fault

@Ryozuki

wat

!c nothing

ChillerDragon

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6592 Minor refactoring of map and datafile

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addres...

The rustup override doesn't seem to work for the gnu toolchain either

19:49

well, at least I can fix that one MSVC bug and then go back to default gnu (edited)

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6593 Fix uninitialized field causing assertion error with MSVC

The modified time was uninitialized for the editor file browser entry corresponding to the downloadedmaps-link. The time is never rendered for links, but the uninitialized time value was still passed to str_timestamp_ex, which results in an assertion error due to an incorrect time value being used when compiling with MSVC. This is fixed by properly initializing the field and also by only calling str_timestamp_ex when the time value will be rendered. Closes #6579.

Checklist

...

Robyt3

@Ryozuki For some reason rustup override does not work with Visual Studio, so I needed to set the default toolchain to stable-x86_64-pc-windows-msvc so fix VS compilation

in case you haven't seen that yet, you can do cargo +<toolchain> <command> to run the cargo command with the specified toolchain (e.g. cargo +nightly build). I don't have the full context so I don't know if it is applicable

Patiga

in case you haven't seen that yet, you can do cargo +<toolchain> <command> to run the cargo command with the specified toolchain (e.g. cargo +nightly build). I don't have the full context so I don't know if it is applicable

I never run cargo manually though when compiling ddnet. The issue is that both MSVC and GNU+make seem to ignore the rustup override and always use the default

1

@Robyt3 there is a env var

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RUSTUP_TOOLCHAIN

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RUSTUP_TOOLCHAIN (default: none) If set, will override the toolchain used for all rust tool invocations. A toolchain with this name should be installed, or invocations will fail.

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https://rust-lang.github.io/rustup/environment-variables.html

Environment variables - The rustup book

but can I set different values for different build folders?

hmm i wonder

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maybe with a .env

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but idk

I don't think that exists on Windows

it doesnt exist on linux either

I'll just change the default when I need to, I don't need MSVC very often anyway

.env is a common file used to load envs

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i load them with the crate dotenvy

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https://crates.io/crates/dotenvy

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but idk if they use it

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probs not

there is environment management for windows

I mean there is also the rust-toolchain.toml file, in the project directory https://rust-lang.github.io/rustup/overrides.html#the-toolchain-file

ah shit i can not find the tool again but there was something for env on windows i saw it when i spent one day just trying to make windows build setup speedrun

@Jupstar ✪ Any idea how #6578 happens?

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6578

Game window is not shown after restarting game in Windowed and Wind...

After restarting the client from within the client itself (via auto-updater or restart command added in #6577), the game window is entirely missing with Fullscreen mode: Windowed or Windowed Fullsc...

Voxel

but then again i wouldnt know how to run it as a casual computer user

As a "casual user" myself, if you know where to get your drivers from, then any Ubuntu based OS Distro will work fine for you

bloatware

Things you can do as a casual user: You get updates which won't bloat your system You get to choose which apps to update and when to update You get to delete whatever apps you don't like (if you know how to use apt) You don't need to worry about security as much, since most programs you run will always come off of your distro's webstore or from Flatpack, a famous and yet the best store for apps

21:42

Things you cannot do as a casual user: Code, so unless you are interested in it, you'll have to figure out how to update your drivers If you've upgraded your drivers, then that's all there is to it

Teero

bloatware

Ubuntu itself is, but it's open source (edited)

21:43

such as Linux Mint and PopOS are great options

21:43

PopOS is GNOME based, but it's even more customizable imo

arch and only arch, my true love ❤️ (edited)

santatrollet

1

I haven't tried it

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

dd7cf38 Fix uninitialized field causing assertion error with MSVC - Robyt3 94fa9a8 Merge #6593 - bors[bot]

21:45

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6579 Game crashes in editor file browser when compiled with MSVC

21:45

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6593 Fix uninitialized field causing assertion error with MSVC

[ddnet:master] 8 new commits

52e1494 Remove unused CDataFileReader::Unload function declaration - Robyt3 6b37c3d Reorder map and datafile functions - Robyt3 5e215f6 Mark map and datafile functions as const when possible - Robyt3 7273574 Add missing CMap::NumData delegate function - Robyt3 cd9d0e5 Add default parameter values to CMap::GetItem - Robyt3 cbde0bb Use nullptr instead of 0 - Robyt3 2f2c86c Move variable declarations closer to usages - Robyt3 22df50c Merge #6592 - bors[bot]

22:04

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6592 Minor refactoring of map and datafile

ddnet update when

@Jupstar ✪ ig ur sleeping now but on the fng2 repo (0.6 source idk about 0.7) it doesn't want to compile. I added #include <cstdint> in src/game/server/gamecontext.cpp and then it compiled ;)

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