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Between 2023-05-01 00:00:00Z and 2023-05-02 00:00:00Z

3 stages of making own client: 1. Wow, i want to make my own client, thats will be great 2. Fuck i have to learn c++ 3. Depression

Not just cpp

00:34

Many concepts as well

Ewan

Many concepts as well

Yeah, indeed

I tried also to remade the discord rcp

00:54

I did new classes but I got error to import my new class inside ddnet client

whuh

01:33

it's not like java man

Depends on the client. Some client projects could also be done in C#, rust, JavaScript, ruby or pythonUsing existing libraries made for teeworlds (@-StormAx)

3 stages of making own client: 1. Wow, i want to make my own client, thats will be great 2. Fuck i have to learn c++ 3. Depression

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01:36

Or lua kek ath

chillerdragon

Depends on the client. Some client projects could also be done in C#, rust, JavaScript, ruby or pythonUsing existing libraries made for teeworlds (@-StormAx)

But headless kek

kek

Jupstar ✪

@Robyt3 is this fade out indented to look so weird?

Yeah, I also noticed that at some point. Last time I just tried to change the text color of an error message to red, but the color gets blended with another color in the text renderer so you don't end up with the color you want

text containers should™️ support what u want

08:49

since they have a render color

yea most of the languages i mentioned are libs that do not offer a gui so you have to build your own. But rust and lua integrate into the gui clients

Jupstar ✪

text containers should™️ support what u want

in the end, almost all rendered text is a text container though

08:51

many are just one-time-use, but they use the same text container functions

yeah, but i mean the interface for text containers

08:51

textex has the old interface

yeah, I don't this stateful interface where you have to do SetTextColor(...);Text(...);SetTextColor(Old..); (edited)

yeah, still surprising the alpha is ignored like that, but dunno the reason rn XD

08:53

ah text outline is probs completely ignored right?

I don't even see any code that handles the broadcast alpha fading

08:55

at least in broadcast.cpp

08:55

it's still using TextEx though

ah it want u changing it?

I don't think I changed anything with text color, so it was like this before the text renderer and IME changes (edited)

09:03

ah, it's not a broadcast, it's its own function in hud.cpp

yeah, is actually pretty long in

09:03

weird that i just noticed it yesterday xd

looks like this is the same bug I previously mentioned, the text color itself is also not faded to alpha 0 correctly

09:12

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09:12

looks like it fades to grey instead

09:13

and text outline alpha is also not set currently

Maybe an addition somewhere along the way?

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6550 Finish time fade-out not working correctly

!a !b It looks like it fades to grey instead of transparent. The outline alpha is not currently set as well.

Ewan

it's not like java man

Cpp object oriented

That doesn’t mean you can mingle classes like you can in Java??

-StormAx

3 stages of making own client: 1. Wow, i want to make my own client, thats will be great 2. Fuck i have to learn c++ 3. Depression

what's the problem that something not done with classes instances a new class and calls a method?

09:52

and then I did this a while ago but it seems to me that there were other things in the code done with classes

The problem is lack of experience in programming, i learned a lot, but didn't used my knowledge in practice

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6551 Fix Y Alignment by respecting cursor height independent of character …

…height since the cursor height is simply the font size, but obv not all characters use the full font size, it must additionally make sure that this size isn't ignored in the y offset calculation (since it makes the characters render at the offset of the cursor height), so basically: 0 + FontSize == Character start CharacterHeight != FontSize that moves the character down. Also added back the render flags, i think it logically makes sense if they are there, since a character could ...

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6552 C++20

June 2023 ends Ubuntu 18 LTS standard support, I think that was our deadline? ^^

justatest

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10:17

til git allows commit hashes as tag names for maximum troling

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warning: refname '7a6e705e67297e45b7b744f92e5d9b705c5008a6' is ambiguous.

10:18

xd

10:19

on git checkout

lol

troll

git tag master :trollface:

10:20

type that if you get your hands on a co workers device and they spend the day debugging git

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6553 Fix alpha fading in hud

fixes #6550

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#u...

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not fun in practice, the very first access to allocation is going to crash your program

i think he knows

10:38

its a meme

more fun would be something like return (unsigned char *)malloc(size) + (rand() < 100);

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10:41

less likely to crash on the first invocation, much more fun to debug

xd

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6554 discussion vs needs-discussion

We have two labels, https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/labels/discussion and https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/labels/needs-discussion, which seem to be applied in the same way. The description of "discussion" says it's a meta-discussion, whatever that might mean. Merge the two labels?

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

54e013f Fix alpha fading in hud - Jupeyy 0cb8488 Merge #6553 - bors[bot]

12:21

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6550 Finish time fade-out not working correctly

12:21

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6553 Fix alpha fading in hud

ChillerDragon: do u still use gnome?

da

ChillerDragon: do you have weird mouse issues with latest DDNet with gnome?

how latest?

13:08

i am 16 commits behind

13:08

leme remerge

thats ok

13:09

u use arch right?

yes BTW

i just wonder why https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6548 has problems

Mouse issue · Issue #6548 · ddnet/ddnet

I cannot using my mouse to moving cursor. It's my self compile it. System is Ubuntu. But i still can click.

13:09

never heard of a bug like that

13:09

but he uses ubuntu 22

i dropped to 10% skill and 1% game feels so i kinda feel like my internet and mouse is broken af since months but thats probably brain damage

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oh that bad not just a bit wonkey

13:10

no no no such thing on my side

13:10

tell him to buy arch

13:10

maybe he uses wayland axaxax

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X11 masterrace

13:11

wowo github ajax feels like live messenger

13:11

github issue comments are smoother than matrix chats ngl

13:12

!jup open this on 2nd screen and comment something lets try gh livechat https://github.com/ChillerDragon/github-meta/issues/5

live chat · Issue #5 · ChillerDragon/github-meta

@Jupstar ✪

i currently dont have a second screen xD

ok watever

13:13

then main

my last broke, bcs samsung is trash company

13:13

and then i actually found 1 screen quite nice

write commento and write here

13:13

i wanna know delay xd

13:14

quality chat xxxxxxxxxxxD

13:17

i always kinda thought gh issues could be abused as live chat but now i know for sure

13:18

this is epic

13:18

sad that ill leave gh soon because ms crap and the new ui is sooo bad

as long as ms doesnt make it harder for open source projects idc the good about github is, that it attracts more devs

not for long

i hate to have a extra account for freedesktop gitlab xd

the performance decrease of the new code viewer is intense it feels so sluggish

13:21

might as well use bitbucket

13:21

i login to gitlab.com with github.com oauth xd

i use gitlab for private hosting, its defs not made to use less resources xD

to maximize damage when they finally ban me on github so i lose all backups too

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ye selfhosting gitlab is bloat

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i only selfhost bare repos

13:22

if i want proper backups and ui i want it to be managed by big corpo

ChillerDragon, can you disconnect your bot on multeasymap please? We dont want to encourage blocking and its taking up a slot.

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its disconnected

13:28

if blocking is not encouraged why is there a dedicated area for it?

13:28

me counting only stats there encourages to not block in the race

Just name the bot differently, then nobody notices it's u xd

axaxax

13:29

as a language model i can not get involved in illegal activities

13:30

@Vy0x2 ^

13:31

eh yea jopsti verified with latest master my mouse is going strong still

If it would just collect data i would rethink my request, but since its announcing killing sprees and stuff its kinda annoying.

i can turn the mute mode on

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nothing into public chat

Hm if it will tell the personal statistics in whisper i think i dont have anything against that at the moment

shit i need to adjust code

13:34

ok ill do and spin it up again

I dont want to discourage you to create new stuff and contribute to the community, please keep it within bounds =)

ye dw i was expecting a 4 week ban within the first 2h not a friendly note after weeks so im good :D

i dont mind ur bot if its written in rust

13:42

gigachad

In safe rust xdd

Ryozuki

i dont mind ur bot if its written in rust

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@Ryozuki

it has like 1% rust in it so im safe :D

!jup sos i got sidetracked so hard rewriting bash in javascript my c++ looks like this now

@Jupstar ✪

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Uff

14:12

Enough js for the month i guess xdd

ikr

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but i gotta implement pipes in javascript

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i just feel the urge

@Ravie @Pipou What do you think about #6546?

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/6546

move some editor buttons into menus by Marmare314 · Pull Request #6...

The entities and unused buttons are now in a new "Settings" menu. The border and goto buttons got moved to the "Tools" menu. Checklist Tested the change ingame Provided scr...

Robyt3

@Ravie @Pipou What do you think about #6546?

good idea to clean up the toolbar a little but I still think we can get rid of some of those buttons at all

It's good

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I don't know if anyone is using "Border" at all

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Even "goto x/y" (edited)

15:47

I think those two could be removed

Goto XY is useful for testing, when you share a position in the map

I test a lot and I never needed that

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Nobody ever gave me coordinates

Some error messages that the server/client print might contain coordinates

There are barely any gigantic maps that require the coordinates not to get lost

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Oh

15:49

Some tool by Patiga do I think

Was useful for #6489

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6489

Just Pseudo Fly gives error in server console · Issue #6489 · ddnet...

After downloading Just Pseudo Fly from https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-maps/blob/master/types/brutal/maps/Just%20Pseudo%20Fly.map and voting that map on a LAN server, you get this error in the serve...

Ok then it's fine

Maybe the info button and hex values buttons could also be moved to tools

15:50

Or another menu "View"

15:51

If we want to use similar names like in other programs

The info button is very needed

There's also a hotkey for it, or do you more often click the button?

It can be moved to tools if there are shortcuts (keybinding)

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(talking about the info button)

Yeah, there is Ctrl+I for the info button and Ctrl+Shift+I for the Hex Values button

I never used it

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What are the hex values for ?

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I don't understand how it's supposed to help

Someone said it's easier to read because the values are more aligned

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#5938

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5938

Hex Values in the editor's info feature by VoxelDoesCode · Pull Req...

Add an option when the info button is selected, you can show the hexadecimal values for a tile rather than 1-255. This has some benefits, as it aligns in a perfect grid. Can help with making and te...

It's more confusing to me than numbers

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@Voxel

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However I understand how some people might find it more comfortable (2 digits instead of up to 3)

15:58

It could be moved in the tools in that case

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@Ravie What do you think of "Entities"

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I think it could be moved elsewhere

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It's rarely used

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We mostly map and test DDRace in DDNet (edited)

yeah never used that myself

What about "Color"?

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I never understood why it was there

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What about the "Zoom" button, there is the

already (between - and +)

@marmare_314 More possible editor changes discussed above

can i bind the change of the resolution?

kio

can i bind the change of the resolution?

No, I think it doesn't update your screen size afterwards correctly

I never use "Refocus" either, I don't think it's really necessary (it could be moved too)

beacuse from linux the game idk why don't keep the stretched 4:3 and the text is all bugged

kio

beacuse from linux the game idk why don't keep the stretched 4:3 and the text is all bugged

You would have the restart the game after using the bind

Pipou

I never use "Refocus" either, I don't think it's really necessary (it could be moved too)

Yeah, maybe move "Refocus" and "Info" both into a new menu "View". With 3 buttons to select "Off", "Dec", "Hex" for info.

Sure

Robyt3

You would have the restart the game after using the bind

?

@Ravie Do you agree on moving those buttons away ?

kio

?

You could use a bind to change the resolution, but you would have to restart the game for the setting to take effect

I use Refocus but maybe there is a better place for it

Robyt3

You could use a bind to change the resolution, but you would have to restart the game for the setting to take effect

oh ok

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but does anyone know the reason for these bugs that didn't fit on windows?

The problem with refocus is that it only focuses the top left corner

kio

oh ok

bind ctrl+x "gfx_screen_width 1920; gfx_screen_height 1080; quit this will also quit immediately after using the bind, so you just have to start again

Do you even know what's "Color" for @Ravie

Pipou

The problem with refocus is that it only focuses the top left corner

that's the world's origin

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yeah it shows preview of colored layers on tile picker, I always turn that off xd

Ravie

that's the world's origin

Would be better if we could pick the center ourselves by clicking or entering coordinates

kio

but does anyone know the reason for these bugs that didn't fit on windows?

Can you open an issue on GitHub and describe exactly what the issue with, with screenshots if possible?

Pipou

However I understand how some people might find it more comfortable (2 digits instead of up to 3)

I just think it's convenient because it's a grid

Ravie

yeah it shows preview of colored layers on tile picker, I always turn that off xd

Oh yeah true, I never use that either, can still be helpful for some nonetheless

Voxel

I just think it's convenient because it's a grid

Oh ok, understandable. I'm just more used to look at those numbers

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It's only a preference

Robyt3

Can you open an issue on GitHub and describe exactly what the issue with, with screenshots if possible?

i will write that with the stretched fullscreen the game do that or what

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I don't have much other information

Right. If there is a proper way to get XY coords for tiles in a tile layer, then I'm fine with removing hex values

Voxel

Right. If there is a proper way to get XY coords for tiles in a tile layer, then I'm fine with removing hex values

Aren't X and Y shown in the top right? Or is it not exact enough?

They were? Since when?

I'd expect always xD

I can't test it, I'm away from my PC

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I only question because there's a way to make automappers using code and it involves things like position [0, 0] of a mapres

The X/Y in the top right seems wrong though if you enable grid

@Robyt3 I think he means tile coord relative to the tileset inside tile picker, the top right coord is relative to the map

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tho idk why he'd want that

Ease of use for Rules++

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Duhh

nah

It's easier to use coords than to remember 255 numbers for each tile

you don't have to remember anything

brb

Ravie

yeah it shows preview of colored layers on tile picker, I always turn that off xd

So color could probably also be moved into the settings menu?

yeah

!jup btw back in da days i built some not very battle tested sdl version manager https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/sdlvm if you need to switch between sdl versions and compile from source but want it to feel like a package manager

@Jupstar ✪

Robyt3

Yeah, maybe move "Refocus" and "Info" both into a new menu "View". With 3 buttons to select "Off", "Dec", "Hex" for info.

Im not sure about moving refocus into a menu, maybe it could be grouped together with the zoom buttons

dont u need to use refocus for that autofiller thing

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or it makes it easier

Pipou

We mostly map and test DDRace in DDNet (edited)

if u map other modes you use this

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but yeah most of the top buttons cna be moved to other places

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why not make submenus similar to other content editing documents like powerpoint etc

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have diff buttons in different tabs

Yes that's what I meant, it's useful but it should be placed somewhere else

like have several tabs [View] [Tiles] [Graphics] or smth with each old button under those tabs

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #250 Update frontpage video

Ravie

you don't have to remember anything

what about jotting down square arrays for objects

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that is going to take forever

ChillerDragon: nais

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u can also include sdl as submodule in github

ChillerDragon

if blocking is not encouraged why is there a dedicated area for it?

have same question xd

@Ravie @Pipou what about the proof/proof menu buttons? they could also be moved into the view menu right?

proof is very useful so not sure

I just it often

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Not sure either

we shouldn't move ALL buttons to menus, just the rarely used ones

Alright then they should only be joined

no longer afk

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whatd i miss

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #250 Update frontpage video

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[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits

91a9555 Update frontpage video - murpii 72ab470 Merge pull request #250 from murpii/patch-3 - def-

the best solution would be to make some buttons have shortcuts so people who use rhe editor for diff things can use them accordingly

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would be to be able to add shortcuts*

I do this xd This assert message is so strange

? What do you mean? Submodule in which repo why what xd (@Jupstar ✪)

u can also include sdl as submodule in github

in ddnet repo

I should pr SDL code base into official ddnet repo? Xd I’m still totally in the dark what you on about jopsti

it sounded like u wanted to make compiling sdl easier

>->

https://youtu.be/tLdRBsuvVKc

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