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Between 2023-04-29 00:00:00Z and 2023-04-30 00:00:00Z

Hey, I'm on EndevourOS, and I have only 60fps in DDNet on wayland session, although I set refresh rate to 300Hz

09:34

On Xorg session i get values ~3000fps (without limit, if i limit to 300 its 300)

vsync off?

vsync is off

wayland forced vsync off?

09:34

outside of ddnet

am, can I do this?

what desktop do you use?

Actually thats true i have forced vsync on

09:35

because when i turn to 144hz i get 144 fps

09:35

I have nvidia gtx 960, maybe thats the problem? (with drivers)

i dunno, i just know that wayland added a option last year to disable forced vsync

09:36

and at least KDE also has an option for that

luckily i have plasma, so do you know how to do that?

let me switch to wayland, it was somewhere in the display settings

09:38

maybe it was this

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09:38

let me try with ddnet

I disabled it rn and its the same

in f1, do you see anything like this: "vulkan: warning: requested presentation mode was not available. falling back to mailbox / fifo relaxed."

I don't use vulkan, I use opengl 3.3

09:40

And so no errors i see

oh well then it might be an nvidia thing indeed

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nvidia doesnt use mesa so it might not be as well supported

09:41

can u try vulkan, or does it not start?

Vulkan works, the same 60 fps

09:42

Ill check logs

09:43

No error heh

can you start ddnet from terminal __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=0 DDNet

09:44

http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/304.43/README/openglenvvariables.html

09:44

might only work with opengl, dunno

Still the same

mhh weird, did you check the nvidia settings?

09:47

on AMD with mesa i get full fps, tho tbf i also cannot request a immediate mode (full fps + tearing)

No option in settings

09:49

Hm, or maybe is there a way to tell DDNet to run in xwayland?

it depends on SDL but yes

09:50

SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 DDNet SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland DDNet

09:50

it's quite possible that it runs on xwayland anyway btw

09:50

i think SDL will change this in SDL 3.x

Hm no difference still

09:52

But thats weird

09:52

Because on X11 it just works

09:52

And on wayland / xwayland no

well wayland is simply still far away from stable

09:52

even if they advertise it otherwise

09:52

and nvidia probably didnt care for a long time

True

09:53

Okay, tysm for your time legend

09:54

so fast help

09:54

youre like paramedic ;P

xdd

In their desire to kill x11 as quickly as possible they rushed wayland out without finishing it

Yeah, wayland is so young though its initial release was in 2008

09:59

I mean it is already old and still not good enough to replace x11 (edited)

well at least it is close

but if u look into the freedesktop repos u'll see they often take months if not years to merge stuff

10:00

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/18268

vulkan/wsi/wayland: add support for IMMEDIATE (!18268) · Merge requ...

Use the tearing-control-unstable-v1 protocol to indicate to the Wayland compositor that tearing is acceptable. See

10:00

it was opened 8 months ago

10:00

and now they are close to merging it xD

10:00

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/65 this even took over a year xD

Tearing updates protocol (!65) · Merge requests · wayland / wayland...

This protocol is meant to be used by drivers to be able to hint to the compositor if and when it should employ asynchronous page flips for presentation....

:D

10:02

Why is it taking years btw?

10:02

Though a big company is behind it

10:02

Canonical

Jupstar ✪

https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/65 this even took over a year xD

Even before those didn't they argue for another year whether tearing is even acceptable?

Or the code is a messy ...

Learath2

Even before those didn't they argue for another year whether tearing is even acceptable?

yes

Aniak

Though a big company is behind it

Canonical is not big enough, if it was google and they needed it for the next android release wayland would be mature in 2 days

no shit haha

i can only assume that the maintainers are blockers, e.g. it's moving to fast for them.. too few ppl for too much stuff maybe it's simply not very attractive. Also they probably have a bit of pressure to not destroy everything xD

10:04

wayland was simply rushed as learath said

10:04

if they took more time to prototype it might have worked better

They rushed it in 2008 without prototyping, and so they have to prototype it dynamically rn

yeah, kinda tru xD

Is there a thread or sth where bugs and weird mechanics like sg bugs, pirofly, freezejumps etc. are documented? couldn't find much in the wiki tee_thinking

tee_thinking

bcs u look for bug, while it is a feature

17:44

guess there is nothing like that directly

17:45

https://wiki.ddnet.org/wiki/Freeze#Freeze_Jump they are mentioned but only where it makes sense

I see, so expanding wiki it is. thanks anyway!

link to archive of all maps from testing?

Steinchen

link to archive of all maps from testing?

https://ddnet.org/testlogs/

thx!

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