DDraceNetwork - mapping

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1095837534950522980/1100814548258263070

16:52

@Pipou i did spent about 3 hours testing it

16:52

it wasnt fun in the least bit

16:52

the map will be the most frustrating thing ever released

16:53

you get to the last parts and 1 tiny mistake OR LAG and hours upon hours of playtime "wasted"

16:53

altough you do get better at the map but this will be mind bendingly frustrating

sadly i dont have time for testing atm (no joke)

I.K.U

the map will be the most frustrating thing ever released

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/252358080522747904/1100820463237742673

16:57

seems like we mildly had the same thought on it

I.K.U

it wasnt fun in the least bit

Well thank you for testing but not every map is meant for everyone. Anyone can find his groove. Because you didn't find it fun doesn't mean everyone agrees

I.K.U

the map will be the most frustrating thing ever released

That's quite a challenge

I.K.U

you get to the last parts and 1 tiny mistake OR LAG and hours upon hours of playtime "wasted"

A lag can kill you (almost) anytime, even on Stronghold so it's not relevant

Pipou

A lag can kill you (almost) anytime, even on Stronghold so it's not relevant

not really

17:05

since stronghold doesnt punish you instantly

17:05

here every pixel matters

17:05

for some parts

17:05

0.2 lagg spike can killl you on this

17:05

but unlikely on stronghold

That would be very unfortunate to have a lag right at the end, but we can't just limit maps because people don't have a mouse or a keyboard or a good internet connection (edited)

i dont have a mouse or a keyboard or a good internet connection... damn

17:07

guess im farming that idle fun map

@I.K.U ur a pro u have no rights to complain about lag

17:22

get the skillz

ye

(i totally didnt read all the convo)

i should just stop freezing for seconds

17:22

randomly

yeah

17:22

git gud

play safe

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17:23

look at me

17:23

no lags

17:23

only skill

Knuski

play safe

what is that pfp btw

n9zuki

@ano takarodj a chatemről

unpopular opinion hostile 3 sucks santatrollet

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I.K.U

what is that pfp btw

its an alien cat

ano

unpopular opinion hostile 3 sucks santatrollet

maybe state ur opinion in #deleted-channel oh wait...

ddnet mafia

DDNET MAFIA

konsti was right all along

opinion?? silence

ddnet mafia

17:24

tester mafia

its only insane just to have

emoji

17:25

developer mafia

17:25

rust mafia

17:25

the devs are the ones holding all the power

17:25

we decide if u get a thing nobody wants

ano

unpopular opinion hostile 3 sucks santatrollet

Pikachu is still waiting

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17:26

hostile 3 is an amazing map

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3

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It's still 5€

1

17:27

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@Pipou Wouldnt it be better to have a map in testing for at least a week so that other people have a chance to give feedback?

It's been almost 2 weeks

18:06

From what I can see recently ppl don't engage in map until it gets ready

Still, wouldnt it be better to have a certain time frame where the community could engage in giving feedback, rather then making it ready in 2 days. Ready means ready and the community couldnt engage in the testing process

18:12

Otherwise testing could be private then, if the opinion of others doesnt matter and you dont want to hear it (edited)

People was complaining about map #deleted-channel ready fast and release date fast . 1. ready fast , map was good with out big mistakes or no mistakes . Testers had time to test so he did . Testers can test what ever he likes , they are not earning anything from that . You can also test map , but you will not do it (probably). 2.Guys if you didn't saw map releases are different style and most of maps in ready are solos , so would be bad to release only solos and couple of dummy , that's why release will be insane map soon . As you can see we don't have any ready map except solos and one dummy map ...

18:19

and i don't think all testers need to test one map !

ahh another mapping drama greenthing

Souly

ahh another mapping drama greenthing

you are late

im souly

Souly

im souly

im noby

so how exactly does #deleted-channel get released if there were TONS of negative feedback and just some kind of potentially made-up positive feedback?

I talked to taktak in-game and tested it with him and we agreed on many thinks regarding the map and you decided to "fix" 2 tiny spots which didn't even really matter taking into account the major issues of the map. Thank you for stating that taktak talked with the critics in-game but not mentioning that not really much of the criticism was actually being taken care of. I love the overall censorship with this map as there are obviously many opinions on this topic as you can read above. I mean you can keep saying that you tested the map with your friends and that you guys are honest to each other but how is anyone supposed to believe that if there are only negative comments in public etc. Agreeing with IKU that the map was not even fun with super which obviously is a total red flag in a map. @Pipou

Freezy

so how exactly does #deleted-channel get released if there were TONS of negative feedback and just some kind of potentially made-up positive feedback?

I talked to taktak in-game and tested it with him and we agreed on many thinks regarding the map and you decided to "fix" 2 tiny spots which didn't even really matter taking into account the major issues of the map. Thank you for stating that taktak talked with the critics in-game but not mentioning that not really much of the criticism was actually being taken care of. I love the overall censorship with this map as there are obviously many opinions on this topic as you can read above. I mean you can keep saying that you tested the map with your friends and that you guys are honest to each other but how is anyone supposed to believe that if there are only negative comments in public etc. Agreeing with IKU that the map was not even fun with super which obviously is a total red flag in a map. @Pipou

potential $reset incoming?! santatrollet

Nah

Knuski

potential $reset incoming?! santatrollet

do it ill give u 5 schmeckles

louis

do it ill give u 5 schmeckles

whats that? is that like a snickle?

idk

Freezy

so how exactly does #deleted-channel get released if there were TONS of negative feedback and just some kind of potentially made-up positive feedback?

I talked to taktak in-game and tested it with him and we agreed on many thinks regarding the map and you decided to "fix" 2 tiny spots which didn't even really matter taking into account the major issues of the map. Thank you for stating that taktak talked with the critics in-game but not mentioning that not really much of the criticism was actually being taken care of. I love the overall censorship with this map as there are obviously many opinions on this topic as you can read above. I mean you can keep saying that you tested the map with your friends and that you guys are honest to each other but how is anyone supposed to believe that if there are only negative comments in public etc. Agreeing with IKU that the map was not even fun with super which obviously is a total red flag in a map. @Pipou

I fixed all the "problems", if there are any left, you are welcome to point them out

22:36

There is no censorship if I'm not aware of everything

22:37

But you are right, just reminded me why I never posted any of my maps on public testing

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i never had problems on public testing justatest

Pipou

I fixed all the "problems", if there are any left, you are welcome to point them out

I think it’s quite ironic to say that as the map was set to ready immediately and the testing channel is even locked by now.

Pipou

But you are right, just reminded me why I never posted any of my maps on public testing

I don’t think the role of the victim really suits you here if that’s what you’re trying to achieve(?)

The map was fine as it was, I only "fixed" things for people like you to stop complaining

Freezy

I don’t think the role of the victim really suits you here if that’s what you’re trying to achieve(?)

I'm not trying to achieve anything, that's just a fact

I think that the map is not really terrible at all and I don’t want to hate on you at all, I just feel like there was much room for improvement simply by dividing the map into half or ideas like that because as anyone might tell based on the feedback, the map is not ideal

22:50

Additionally how is anyone even supposed to test the map properly if no one knows what the real ways are, even only based on this fact alone the testing process should‘ve taken much longer

22:52

I don’t think that this is just my opinion but feel free to continue as you wish as I’m going to sleep, good night

(edited)

Freezy

I think that the map is not really terrible at all and I don’t want to hate on you at all, I just feel like there was much room for improvement simply by dividing the map into half or ideas like that because as anyone might tell based on the feedback, the map is not ideal

The 1st was hard at the time, same for the second, now they are quite easy. I always wanted the 3rd one to stand out, be longer and harder (it used to have kill edges which I fully removed) and I like it as a trilogy

Freezy

Additionally how is anyone even supposed to test the map properly if no one knows what the real ways are, even only based on this fact alone the testing process should‘ve taken much longer

I'm aware of the different ways, even the craziest ones. It's more interesting for me to see how you'd do it

It feels like 95% of the critism is somehow around the fact that you are hiding the "real" ways

23:50

It seems like it isnt that funny for most people to have a map which is just punishing to learn/play