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Between 2023-04-14 00:00:00Z and 2023-04-15 00:00:00Z

Learath2

I might be one of those. Or I just might not be releasing enough to let me get over the fact that it's extremely boring

I find it extremely boring thats why i recommended martial arts, alternative is gameficatuon buy a dance pad plug to pc and play stepmania

I would like to take this day to thank Wolfgang Fruhstorfer for his contribution to synthesizing oxymetazolin

08:05

Truly a revolutionary invention

god every server im in is dead as hell

Voxel

god every server im in is dead as hell

Move to China

Voxel

god every server im in is dead as hell

its morning in eu

08:56

and this is basically a eu dc

hello from united state

@Jupstar ✪ to not spam questions i ask here

09:24

when is the best time to upgrade

09:24

the 5800x

09:24

maybe wait for the next amd gen

Yeah

09:25

The x3d is epic but defs not worth the money yet

SadScar

Ddr5 also still too expensive

what mhz do the 7000 use

09:25

im stuck at 3200

start of next gen is always expensive

09:25

Smth like 5.5 boost

u can get like 5000+ for newer ryzen

09:26

they love the speed

no

09:26

more than 3200 for 5800x does nothing

09:26

the infinity frabric thing

unless u overclock

09:27

but u cant overclock 5000

09:27

here

09:27

xd

09:27

anyway the gains of overclocking ram arent much i think

Ryozuki

what mhz do the 7000 use

So u meant ram

09:31

Soz

09:31

Then like 5200

09:32

Minimum

09:32

The gigabyte mb x670 also listed higher ones.. probably xmp or how they call it in this generation xd

09:32

Over clocked

09:33

5200 without

still xmp iirc

09:38

maybe just for intel tho (?)

They gave me a text on english lesson

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10:29

There also were questions and ChatGPT was called ChatGTB

I wish I'd be in CS school class with current knowledge xdd

10:36

Would destroy it

10:37

English and German always are boring

Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance

They gave me a text on english lesson

First job it will destroy is that of your English teacher xdd

10:38

BCS it's better in languages

Jupstar ✪

I wish I'd be in CS school class with current knowledge xdd

Sign up again in new uni

Overlord

Sign up again in new uni

I mean like high school

Ach lol those were useless (atleast here)

Yes

And they would still beat U because of their microsoft word skills

10:39

What does f7 do in microsoft word 2007?

But imagine out classing your teacher by a lot xd

Overlord

What does f7 do in microsoft word 2007?

Lol. We actually coded

It checks words

10:40

We kinda did too but only kinda

10:42

The real teachers were actually employed somewhere so they just told us do X and never bothered or very rarerly

10:42

I remember database guy the most of all who was on call 24/7

are we talking about CS classes?

10:44

then hell yea

10:44

everyone on their Laptops or phones

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everyone on their Laptops or phones

How old are u if I may ask?

you are crossing personal boundaries Jupstar

10:49

that's a question you can ask me when we play some Terraria together

Well I'm asking BCS when I was in school, Smartphones were just in the coming and like one person used a laptop in the whole school xd

10:50

So either we were extremely old-school, or u must be young xd

yea but in the CS class I am going in rn. there are people here coming from all ages. Kids who finished their school, students, and even parents learning a new job to switch into.

imagine your high school having actual coding

so that wouldn't exactly tell you my age would it

our CS class was office program skills mostly

mine is focking Java

10:52

the SQL, and RESTful API project was nice

I helped start an optional beginner level coding program, a total of 5 people showed up

the Cisco cert was not necessary

We used Pascal, later java xd

Pascal was my third language

Pascal? I knew jupstar was atleast 70yo

Xdd

Pascal is a mix of C# and LUA

10:52

or maybe more like VB.NET?

Germany is really weird about Pascal and Delphi

TurboPascal-gang

I didn't even know that you still use it

Eu

10:53

Ez

because the only good IDE is paid now

And qbasic xdddd

10:53

Not a joke

10:54

I remember in qbasic was the first time I compiled something to a .exe and felt so fucking amazing xdd

Back in the days a "computer" teacher heard I was "using" php, so he asked me which website I was getting my php scripts from. He was baffled when he heard "using" php implied actually coding the "scripts"

Learath2

our CS class was office program skills mostly

Then program in excel mf

That's the level of computer education we got

Learath2

Back in the days a "computer" teacher heard I was "using" php, so he asked me which website I was getting my php scripts from. He was baffled when he heard "using" php implied actually coding the "scripts"

Lmao

@Jupstar ✪ dont worry, being a language necormancer is fine

I started cpp with 16 anyway

FORTRAN when?

Changed everything

10:56

My whole view on computers

10:57

But also took like 2 years to be reasonable good

I think my first ever language was visual basic

jupstar. whats the language banks still use to this day?

I think my first ever language was polish

did you learn that one?

You could have swf views embedded in vb applications, so we used that to make cheats for flash games

what were those cheats

10:58

autoclickers?

You could access internal variables of SWF objects

oh

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https://youtu.be/SJgad_Hmkmg

How To Hack Flash Games With Visual Basic

10:59

good old days

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jupstar. whats the language banks still use to this day?

What are language banks even

Learath2

good old days

SO THERE WERE GOOD TIMES

Overlord

SO THERE WERE GOOD TIMES

Sure, I was mostly happy before my eyes were opened to the truths of our society

Jupstar ✪

What are language banks even

banks use some old coding language for their applications

11:00

i forgot the name

Learath2

Sure, I was mostly happy before my eyes were opened to the truths of our society

So till what age

Banks still have damn mainframes...

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banks use some old coding language for their applications

Cobol

yes

COBOLtimee

I heard cobol is being reanimated

Overlord

So till what age

20-21 I'd guess

they get interns to slowly transition their whole system to a modern coding language

I used to be a sane individual, with serotonin

Learath2

20-21 I'd guess

What the fuck, so late? U had so much time to enjoy

i have a friend working at a bank using cobol and a mainframe

Ryozuki

i have a friend working at a bank using cobol and a mainframe

they usually make bank too

Learath2

20-21 I'd guess

How is u are 12 years old

before i got this job, he got more than me

Yes they do but their salary is capped

now i earn more

11:02

and i use rust

Jupstar ✪

But imagine out classing your teacher by a lot xd

I did that regularly with some of my informatics teachers

Jupstar ✪

How is u are 12 years old

At 22 I downgraded

Yep U reach wage max in cobol in 2-3 years

We had a programming teacher for half a year who only used python in his life and didn't know what exactly a class is xd

Python.... cammostripes

cammostripes

this

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Also my first year in high school I literally did nothing on the programming lessons cuz everyone was learning basics of programming and I already knew enough

The only language i actually hate

Same

11:04

And I am forced to use it

11:05

Well like, not really forced

I think I might even enjoy Java more than Python

But if I try doing everything in the exams on my beloved cpp I will spend way too much time on some tasks

Get better in C++ so you can do the boilerplate faster

There are two which require going out of long long bounds and python ignores it

U guys would not survive in my school

There is this one asian dude on youtube doing competitive programming and he is a C++ user

Have U ever written 100 times select * from db_name; on paper?

He spams out code so fast

Overlord

Have U ever written 100 times select * from db_name; on paper?

I have done a database exam on paper before, it was cringe

Learath2

There is this one asian dude on youtube doing competitive programming and he is a C++ user

Lol. Wouldn't have thought but why not xd

And I got penalized for using a window function instead of doing the ugly self join the teacher likes...

If u know what u don't

11:07

Doing

Learath2

I have done a database exam on paper before, it was cringe

Agreed all programming on paper teaches next to nothing

Degenerate behaviour, who doesn't like partitions

Learath2

There is this one asian dude on youtube doing competitive programming and he is a C++ user

Ik it's possible and I'd love to do that but I have 1.5 months before informatics exam

And your teacher doesn't know cpp anyway

11:08

He would die

My current one does

11:08

Thankfully

11:08

And it's his main language

Jupstar ✪

Lol. Wouldn't have thought but why not xd

Me neither, technically STL is so weak compared to all the things other languages offer

Then u get extra points xdd

Learath2

Me neither, technically STL is so weak compared to all the things other languages offer

Yeah and often quite verbose xd

learn rust

https://youtu.be/HgCpbbpJlOA

Winning Google Kickstart Round G 2021

and u will be a better cpp dev

Learn to learn

11:10

And U will be a better human

He also coded an AI gf, if I didn't hate the competitive programming crowd I might give it a watch

When will company call me REEEEEE im already waiting 1h

Learath2

He also coded an AI gf, if I didn't hate the competitive programming crowd I might give it a watch

competitive programming is just memorizing every algorithm there is

Learath2

He also coded an AI gf, if I didn't hate the competitive programming crowd I might give it a watch

And every answer was as a large language model i cant....

Ryozuki

and u will be a better cpp dev

Learn CPP and u'll understand what problems rust fixes xd

Jupstar ✪

Learn CPP and u'll understand what problems rust fixes xd

yeah thats why i said this

Overlord

And every answer was as a large language model i cant....

He probably used GPT-J or another model without chatgpt's silly restrictions

Learath2

He probably used GPT-J or another model without chatgpt's silly restrictions

I mean he doesnt have to use any AI just put it in prompt to every answer ~~fastest coder in europe

@Learath2 ask chatgpt for a gym routine

12:48

xd

Chatgpt doesn’t understand anything, it would generate hogwash

it made one that makes sense for me

12:50

(not the one i use tho)

12:50

and i asked it in spanish too

12:50

it answers in spanish xd

For such basic stuff it's defs clever enough

It’s not clever. It’s a generative language model

12:55

It predicts what word should come after this combination of words

Learath2

It predicts what word should come after this combination of words

that works out for normies

13:00

and u strive to be one

13:00

so it aligns

that is true, normies believe whatever the clever online robot thing says, I should too

I mean it still has lots of neurons

13:06

So it's smart in exactly what it learned xd

13:06

But not generally ofc

13:07

An some fitness guides are probably part of his learning xd

Well honestly what the fuck do we even know about what "clever"/"smart" implies, maybe we are also just generative language models, but I think understanding a concept is much different than being able generate sane looking text about it

True

13:12

Still generating almost perfect English is pretty insane

e.g. ask it directly and it'll tell you the harmonic series doesn't converge. However it'll accidentally claim it does converge trying to prove convergence of something else, it'll make the same mistake many undergrads make and post online

13:12

It clearly doesn't understand what the harmonic series is and/or how it behaves, it only knows how to write stuff about it as other people write about it

Jupstar ✪

Still generating almost perfect English is pretty insane

Better than anything we had before

13:13

And for a human that thinks a lot in languages. It's scary,,, even if it's not

Oh it's insane at generating text, but that's it. I wouldn't attribute it any higher intelligence

Learath2

Oh it's insane at generating text, but that's it. I wouldn't attribute it any higher intelligence

I understand your view and partially agree with u

13:14

But e.g. is an English teacher not intelligent BCS learning the English language apparently is not hard

Learath2

that is true, normies believe whatever the clever online robot thing says, I should too

When U ask it for daily scheldue including work and learning anything or even gym it gives same thing also from the screen i saw it was humanly hardly possible

Or a couple days ago, I asked it a question about stats. It deduced a t value that's positive, justified it with a flawed but very intelligent looking argument, it clearly should have been negative. I pointed out it's mistake it changed it's mind, told me I was right and justified the now negative t value. I told it that was wrong and it should have been positive, it changed it's mind again and justified it again.

13:15

It clearly has no higher understanding of what a t value is, how it's calculated, how it applies to this data

Its a woman

13:15

Thats why it changes its mind so often

Learath2

It clearly has no higher understanding of what a t value is, how it's calculated, how it applies to this data

It especially never learned to be wrong

13:16

I bet u find a human that talks just as much shit xd

U got one here @Overlord

I bet I can indeed convince a human of the same thing, but not someone with actual understanding of the subject. They would definitely be capable of the initial mistake, and I could maybe even justify my correction, but they would never be gaslit back into the 3rd position, and if I suggested the absurdity that they should change the answer a 4th time they would just pick up a reference and check

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Yep

But yeah, I do understand it is just a limitation of what we have now and maybe it'll get even better and maybe we are actually nothing more than a generative language model either with just more layers and neurons

We also have feedback from our environment directly

Ofc they would, everyone has basic understanding of biology and that U need to eat to live, yet somone i know turned into bretharianism

13:20

Or inedia

13:20

Where instead of food U eat sunlight

So we can e.g. for applied physics, test if we are wrong

I think the fact that it's only considering word order is kinda a huge issue. We humans seem to have different classes of knowledge with different levels of maturity. You would never convince me putting my hand in an open flame won't hurt. It'd take a very long time for you to gaslight me into believing 2+2=5. It'd be trivial to manipulate me into thinking almost anything about social interactions. For generative language models it seems they didn't evolve anything like this

13:23

Things in their context buffer can easily override their training weights and entirety of the dataset seems to be treated the same way as in it has no levels of maturity. The data it took from wikipedia seems to be of the same value to it as the data it took from mathoverflow

Maybe the reason it's amazing at text generation is that it's very similar to how we learn languages. I very often find myself thinking in terms of "what words can come after my previous string of words". Language is fairly structured afterall

Learath2

I think the fact that it's only considering word order is kinda a huge issue. We humans seem to have different classes of knowledge with different levels of maturity. You would never convince me putting my hand in an open flame won't hurt. It'd take a very long time for you to gaslight me into believing 2+2=5. It'd be trivial to manipulate me into thinking almost anything about social interactions. For generative language models it seems they didn't evolve anything like this

I wish it was so trivial

this just makes one realize how amazing the brain is

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13:34

Brain saying - end ur existence aint that amazing

13:34

Also brain strives for easy comfort

the brain is a optimizing machine

13:35

and its problem is it optimizes too well sometimes

13:35

ie storing fat when overeating

13:35

its optimizing for the possible outcome u dont find food

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i guess

13:35

also vision

13:36

u can trick a person into falling by using a static room with moving visuals

13:36

this is also due to the brain optimization

Wait other organs dont function when brain is dead? I think heart does

i think brain only controls muscles

Eyes are too imperfect and brain has to fix it in real time

idk tho

Yes i think so too it only controls receptors

Overlord

Eyes are too imperfect and brain has to fix it in real time

more like eyes see at real time, and u need to predict to survive, thats what the brain does

13:38

btw the brain is the only organ that doesnt feel pain

Brain fills patched of our vision that eyes cannot see unless theyre moving

headaches arent pain coming from the brain

Ryozuki

btw the brain is the only organ that doesnt feel pain

Ask @Learath2 about that

xd

Yeah well otherwise we couldnt do open brain surgerues

13:40

If it had pain receptors

Why would the brain even need pain receptors anyway? I can't see it being useful for much of anything

13:49

Brain gets to experience all the awful emotions instead

yeah, remove the pain receptors, just have everyone wear diapers

13:52

my brain hurts tho

I don't doubt we'll one day understand how the brain works. I just doubt it's how chatgpt works

Voxel

my brain hurts tho

what did u do

People without pain perception exist and they have to be careful to not bleed out

Overlord

People without pain perception exist and they have to be careful to not bleed out

CIPA patients are extremely rare

Dont call me CIPA :(

putting ur hand on the stove and looking at it after 2 minutes to see that it has turned into charcoal while not feeling anything troll

troll

u can get shot and not know

13:54

murica cipa

Ryozuki

u can get shot and not know

Yeah U dont even need CIPA for that in merica

cyberFighter

what did u do

think

i also think

13:59

i think we have something in common

wtf

13:59

twinning

like the tw skin i get it

twintri

14:00

twintri

14:00

wait wtf was twintri always this green

santatrollet

hes not that green

14:01

why can u tell the difference

14:01

u fuckin nerd

14:02

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twintri

14:02

yeah that emoji doesnt look even close wtf

cyberFighter

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cyberFighter

u fuckin nerd

this is me irl

cyberFighter

yeah that emoji doesnt look even close wtf

it does

14:15

clealry

the skin looks more like a tennis ball

14:16

the emoji looks more like a frog

omg need tennis ball skin

14:16

good idea

greenthing

did u guys hear about leaked pentagon documents

lol no

14:22

did warhammer tryhards get them

Two zoomers are doing weird faces and poses at the starbucks mirror, I'm scared

14:50

Zoomers confuse me

same

@Learath2 https://myanimelist.net/anime/52034/Oshi_no_Ko

Sixteen-year-old Ai Hoshino is a talented and beautiful idol who is adored by her fans. She is the personification of a pure, young maiden. But all that glitters is not gold. Gorou Amemiya is a countryside gynecologist and a big fan of Ai. So when the pregnant idol shows up at his hospital, he is beyond bewildered. Gorou promises her a safe deli...

15:17

watch this

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ranked 1 on mal on release

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the ep 1 is 1 hour 33 mins

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insane

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but i can see why its so high

15:18

its quite good

15:18

the summary and the story seems odd af but its genuine xd

15:18

japanese are crazy

15:18

(there is 1 ep only for now)

15:19

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Voxel

did warhammer tryhards get them

nos ome guy leaked them on some minecraft discord cuz he was losing an argument

15:30

and how hes arrested

Voxel

same

ur a zoomer bozo

15:30

i love zoomers

louis

i love zoomers

stop zooz

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louis

ur a zoomer bozo

and i hate myself

feelsbadman

Ryozuki

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kek

Don't think I sent food pix in a while

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oh nice

17:42

but its restaurant

weird sushi

its not sushi

18:21

its the inverse

i see fish and rice

Is that elbow and fingers in upper right corner? Somone"s making italian speak gestuers?

Overlord

Is that elbow and fingers in upper right corner? Somone"s making italian speak gestuers?

Yes, no

@Learath2 @Ryozuki https://9gag.com/gag/a2K05Nw

Green goblin the weebs - Funny

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Ryozuki

but its restaurant

I wonder if I ever sent sushi I made here

@Voxel

20:32

hi

this u in fng

totally

yea it is with that american ping

yeah reasonable

20:34

it was rly hard to play

Voxel

it was rly hard to play

how much do you get?

20:34

120 is very playable imo

i get 180 in eu servers

west coast moment

@Voxel wait do u know some usa fng server or whatever

20:35

where u got good ping

Broso56

i get 180 in eu servers

i think there is like one irish server i can get 90 ping to but for the most part im around 130

damn

20:36

thats less than i have on can servers lmao

cyberFighter

@Voxel wait do u know some usa fng server or whatever

yeah fng usa

cant find no fng usa

Broso56

thats less than i have on can servers lmao

feelsbadman

oh woah kog maps are lame as hell i just noticed

20:42

this map doesnt even have a logo

20:43

not even like simple text or anything

20:43

just nothing

another night

21:19

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Did I say something very depressive yesterday?

22:21

I think I skipped a day there

Smh missin my scheduled learath sad moment

In todays theme, let me ask chatgpt, see if it can put my feelings in words

I had to gaslight it because it refuses to write negative things

22:38

The empty space beside me serves as a constant reminder of my inadequacy, a gaping void that cannot be filled. The thought of spending another day alone, yearning for a connection that will never come, is a weight that threatens to crush me entirely. I am but a shell of a person, a mere shadow of what I could have been if only I had someone to share my existence with.

Learath2

The empty space beside me serves as a constant reminder of my inadequacy, a gaping void that cannot be filled. The thought of spending another day alone, yearning for a connection that will never come, is a weight that threatens to crush me entirely. I am but a shell of a person, a mere shadow of what I could have been if only I had someone to share my existence with.

Good thing I have your mom to fill it

pepeW

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22:50

troll

@Learath2 try these easy steps, slowly https://www.reddit.com/r/antimeme/comments/12lqkjk/necessary/

r/antimeme - necessary

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Chairn

@Learath2 try these easy steps, slowly https://www.reddit.com/r/antimeme/comments/12lqkjk/necessary/

its hard to remember

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