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monkalaugh

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the krankenkasse does

Thats sick leave then and as i said zu wont get it for "kopfschmerzen"

You will

07:29

you just need an AU after 2-3 days

I can even provide proof I think if I scroll up in our companies Telegram chat

07:41

Because I called ill for headaches before

AU? = ?

Arbeitsunfähigkeitsbescheinigung

yes its true, germany is awesome in that regard

basically paper that says you are ill

Yea as i said in gernany U can get that AU for headache

07:42

Its well known internet fact

07:42

But in normal countries it doesnt work most of the time

your sentence sounded like "you won't get it for headaches"

Overlord

Must be germany where U get sick leave for headache

First msg

07:43

But as far as im concerned not everyone lives in germany anyway this new monday is just as tedious as regular monday

07:44

Why do they expect me to work at work?

07:44

Inhumane

I am at Home Office rn

07:44

or something like that

Thats dopee

I got exams soon

07:44

so they gave me free time to work on my IT project that I have to deliver for it

wait are u finishing ur it apprenticeship too right now?

Free unpaid or free paid time?

free paid time

07:45

they have to give us 80 hours

Thats very nice of them ach

xd

Ach have to? :/

07:45

Well enjoy two weeks off and last weekend working on entire project like a madman before deadline

all it is is coding a website

07:46

for me at least

07:46

the drop down menu literally sucks to code without javascript

07:46

impossible challenge

Understandable have fun

@default is hand in time also end of april? i just cant get to start working on documentation

should be the same for everyone

send me ur doc as reference ok??

nah

just ask your company

07:50

they surely had someone before you

my ausbilder is sick for months and im kinda left alone with it rn sadly

and you don't have access to the file server?

its rly small company not many azubis

07:52

btw why would u do a webside without js?

I don't do a website without js

07:52

I code it in React.js using TailwindCSS

07:54

the problem I have faced last week was that I don't seem to get the state of the drop-down menu in the button

07:55

so I can't make the arrow switch from down to up. or wait no. that was no problem. switching the arrow when you click outside the drop-down menu is a pain without making a listener for mouse clicks which I think is still overkill. because the drop-down menu already closes itself when you click outside of it.

07:55

just have to figure out how to get the state of it. because the open field doesn't seem to do shit

maybe making it work with :hover could be easier if it meets the applications requirements

I didn't set any requirements

07:57

I just told them what I want to do

07:57

and my company doesn't really care what it will be

07:57

probably won't even replace the old website (edited)

its kinda similar for me, but wont this bite u in the ass at the documentation? aka. no real pflichten/lastenheft

well. I said what I wanted inside the projektantrag

07:59

I will just work with what I provided

I love how the convo is in english with german keywords, *german knowledgr increased *

its rly hard to translate those and keep the understanding up between to germans xd

I clarified it as "Projektanforderungen"

08:00

so I don't see a problem with the Pflichtenheft

yea maybe thats right

08:01

have u asked chatgpt about ur state problem? if i learned one thing during this problem it is the use of it xd

08:02

helped me a lot with understanding laravel structure etc

I asked it. And it provided me code that looked like it works. But I want to do it without javascript. But with what the library is supposed to provide.

08:03

I also can just ignore the arrow. And not make it switch like on https://openai.com/. Then this wouldn't be a problem. (edited)

Introducing GPT-4, OpenAI’s most advanced system

well the best part about those projects is that the dont even need to work anyway xd

yea

08:04

you can just make screenshots

08:04

my friend who did his ausbildung at the same company even faked his to look good in photoshop

oh dear xd but maybe its a good plan to focus on your doc and presentation when u run out of time

08:05

btw do u know when presentations are?

after Sichtung?

sichtung is full may?

yea but you have to give it to them earlier than that

08:06

so you can't do any changes to it

oh the presentation as well?

08:07

but not together with the doc, right?

no clue

08:07

i think the presentation is not part of what you give

08:07

you give them the documentation

good

and the presentation is what you bring to the talk

okay

there you explain your project, code, whatever

08:07

and then they ask you stuff

08:08

to see if you understood everything

doesnt sound too hard the way u say it

you can have dicks in there, or you can have nice people

08:08

also yea. wtf.

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mh im fairly confident about my topic, but my presentation skills are ..xd

when do we hold our talk then

08:09

at the end of the year or what

i heard some say that tbh

08:09

oh u also have 3 weeks more than me

I just realized I only have 10 days left and the website is not even done yet

08:10

I am gone. o/ (edited)

well good luck!

nischt leichter als das

im glad to not be a student

08:41

learning becaue someone tells to is way different than doing it urself, u genuinely enjoy it more, atleast for me

Ryozuki

learning becaue someone tells to is way different than doing it urself, u genuinely enjoy it more, atleast for me

True words, being forced to do something even if its advantegous to U vs Ur free will

How is work ur free will lol

i never said work is better xd

08:47

but atleast u get paid

Xddd

Jupstar ✪

How is work ur free will lol

Well isnt it? Truth be told we could work 1-2 months and then move to@wilderness

08:51

Either papa new guinea islands

08:52

Or alaska / mongolia / siberia

08:52

Those are places where goverment wont touch U even if U live by hunting and have a hut without paying taxes

08:52

But to live like that is also a type of work

08:53

Also some people live like prasites all their life without ever having real job

And that is what u call free will

08:53

Running away xd

Its not running away but have fun doing this in any european country in a forest

08:54

U will get caught in probably less than 30 days and then Ur free will be sitting in jail

08:54

From 3 months to few years

Why would they even hunt u lol

Ryozuki

learning becaue someone tells to is way different than doing it urself, u genuinely enjoy it more, atleast for me

Amen. I could spend hours and weeks learning stuff and have fun. As soon as you tell me I have to learn it and it has to happen within a set time I’m completely uninterested

They give a shit about u

Jupstar ✪

Why would they even hunt u lol

Because it"s "public space" and hunting animals without loicense is illegal

Learath2

Amen. I could spend hours and weeks learning stuff and have fun. As soon as you tell me I have to learn it and it has to happen within a set time I’m completely uninterested

Yep sucks hard

Overlord

Because it"s "public space" and hunting animals without loicense is illegal

Just eat berries

Have fun eating them in winter

Thanks

Also im positive if somone finds Ur hut they either will report it, ruin it, or steal ur berries in less than 30 days (ofc huge part of population will just ignore it )

Huh, most places have hunting exemptions for subsistence hunters and there are many edible species that are allowed to be hunted like wild boars

I dunno I often see a homeless in a forest in my city

08:57

I think nobody cares lol

People care, a guy had super provisory hut and it got dismantled

He uses a tent. Maybe that's the trick

Learath2

Huh, most places have hunting exemptions for subsistence hunters and there are many edible species that are allowed to be hunted like wild boars

Hunting with bow:"/crossbow is illegal in many places also, im pretty sure it still requires loicense and the one who will out U is a hunter with one

Maybe the citizen in our city are simply different xd

Ok, get a loicense?

Jupstar ✪

He uses a tent. Maybe that's the trick

Idk when i was 14 me and friend stalked a homeless guy in bloodied shirt for 3h really boring and it ended in a trench with 2 others (thats when we left)

Learath2

Ok, get a loicense?

It requires money which U cant get without working

09:00

+ it needs to be renewed

09:00

Shit even for fishing U need a license

Oh you want to not work at all. I thought you just wanted to live outside settlements

Jupstar ✪

How is work ur free will lol

I think this sentence is the topic @Learath2

Most fishing licenses are for commercial amounts of fishing, atleast in turkey you can fish up to a certain amount

In poland U cant fish in public water without license

09:02

And in private without owner"s approval

Jupstar ✪

How is work ur free will lol

This one is simple, work is not free will at all. It’s just a neoliberal illusion

Pond and river / creek included

09:03

As somone who sat on his ass for 8 months i gotta say its free will

09:03

Because the other option is either very harash life, death, or imprisonment

You are free not to work as long as you are okay with dying of hunger

or just have shitloads of money

09:04

thats the true no work way

09:04

in capitalism

Yeah literally last sentence, also what is even worse, when U think about it, even if U could fish/hunt without any "money" its still work... just not for money

in comunism u also work tho

09:05

the best society is the one from star trek

09:05

reaf this

09:05

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trekonomics

Trekonomics: The Economics of Star Trek is a 2016 book by French economist Manu Saadia. The book deals with the topic of the scarcity in the economy by looking at it in reverse. The author describes the 24th-century Star Trek universe in which scarcity does not exist at all. The book explores a post-scarcity age and how our society would need to...

09:05

The book deals with the topic of the scarcity in the economy by looking at it in reverse. The author describes the 24th-century Star Trek universe in which scarcity does not exist at all. The book explores a post-scarcity age and how our society would need to change to adapt itself to such an environment. It looks at the expectations regarding automation and artificial intelligence and takes readers through a journey of the fictional, moneyless world of Star Trek. It also looks at the challenges to the Star Trek economy.

But our basic needs scarcity is fake

there is no money in star trek

There is way more than enough food for everyone

09:06

And i think shelter shouldnt be too much of a problem

ofc not

09:06

we have the resources

09:06

but people are greedy by nature

Stop making interesting conversations

09:07

I need to not have a free will

Duh im at work rn

09:07

Yet i rebel and use that free will to chat here

Since covid something changed in my mind xd

09:08

Corona freed me

There are many after effects of covid

09:08

Some may consider them unnatural

Overlord

Yet i rebel and use that free will to chat here

ur free will is being used by a corpo to analyze ur texts and sell u stuff

Xd

Ha thats the trick i rarerly ever buy anything other than food

u bought a steam deck

09:08

by my recommendation

Somewhat, but mostly due to sony

Ryozuki

in comunism u also work tho

Well ofc, even in a post scarcity community, it is humans that create the scarcity. Only when everything is fully automated can you eliminate necessary work

how do u know im not a discord employee

09:09

kek

Because psp was my best buy for nearly a decade

09:09

And steam deck is wonderful continuation

running arch linux

Overlord

And i think shelter shouldnt be too much of a problem

The US has enough buildings to house all it’s homeless and just the food the US wastes is enough to feed the entirety of africa iirc

Ryozuki

how do u know im not a discord employee

But tbh U werent deciding factor so maybe thats why

people in the west rly are ignorant

09:10

i am too

09:10

about how poor others are

09:10

by getting 30k a year

09:10

ur at the top 1% earners

09:10

of the world

09:10

i am one of those

Learath2

The US has enough buildings to house all it’s homeless and just the food the US wastes is enough to feed the entirety of africa iirc

Well average american eats like two normal humans

Ryozuki

ur at the top 1% earners

Thank god i earn like 7k

Ryozuki

about how poor others are

We lack context. It’s extremely hard to even imagine the conditions the global south lives in

Overlord

Well average american eats like two normal humans

Even if they kept eating like 2 humans if only their food waste was less we could feed africa

we dont lack context

09:11

some ppl would dream getting 1€

09:11

a month

Learath2

We lack context. It’s extremely hard to even imagine the conditions the global south lives in

If i wanted to see sad i would watch somalia, sudan, or some lithum/cobalt mine

09:12

I dont want to feed africa

09:12

I want everyone to feed themselves

09:12

lol didnt know this emote exists

Ryozuki

some ppl would dream getting 1€

@Ryozuki well sure, you know this fact, but do we really understand what it feels to live like that? With that kind of poverty the things we regard as basics are luxuries

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Learath2

@Ryozuki well sure, you know this fact, but do we really understand what it feels to live like that? With that kind of poverty the things we regard as basics are luxuries

yeah i understand what u mean

Learath2

@Ryozuki well sure, you know this fact, but do we really understand what it feels to live like that? With that kind of poverty the things we regard as basics are luxuries

U can always try if U need empirical experience

kek

Overlord

I want everyone to feed themselves

In a capitalist context, this is just not feasible. Their work is just not valuable enough to feed themselves. That is the hard neoliberal truth

If only they focused on growing their crops, instead of everything else, even if they cant do it right now if population falls 20% it will reach equilibrium

@Learath2 they can be self suficient, the problem is that oligarchs doesnt allow that, due to their abusae

If their work was valuable enough and they had any leverage they wouldn’t be starving. Decades of european and american dominance has made it impossible for them to negotiate anything, so we could all have thriving post war economies

africa is everyones playground sadly

Ach right, because before that they, werent doing exactly what they do right now

europe usa, china and russia

Learath2

Even if they kept eating like 2 humans if only their food waste was less we could feed africa

I'd be careful with this tho. Shipping so much food every day is quite hard logistically. Also just giving Africans food won't solve all problems. Africans have an insane birth rate for example

Ryozuki

europe usa, china and russia

Yeah china buys africa rn

09:16

Also there are african countries that were never under "european occupation" and they are exactly same shitholes

its hard to have a thriving economy when ur surrounded by shit

Problem is. We don't actually want Africa to get rich BCS we want cheap energy

Overlord

If only they focused on growing their crops, instead of everything else, even if they cant do it right now if population falls 20% it will reach equilibrium

You can grow all the crops you want. The “free” market will pay you only a certain amount for it, so it’s only useful for feeding yourself. The “free” market also will just refuse to sell you seeds at a price where it makes sense for the crops to be used for feeding your population

But its alright, if U dont live in harash climate that requires U to think 6 months ahead, U dont really need ti advance

Learath2

You can grow all the crops you want. The “free” market will pay you only a certain amount for it, so it’s only useful for feeding yourself. The “free” market also will just refuse to sell you seeds at a price where it makes sense for the crops to be used for feeding your population

Aside from those engineered crops that last 1 year, real plants are reusable

Jupstar ✪

Problem is. We don't actually want Africa to get rich BCS we want cheap energy

Energy, labour and resources

Jupstar ✪

I'd be careful with this tho. Shipping so much food every day is quite hard logistically. Also just giving Africans food won't solve all problems. Africans have an insane birth rate for example

I’m not saying we ship the food. I’m saying we have the capability to make this amount of food, we can most certainly grow it elsewhere aswell. Humanity as a whole has the resources and the capabilities to make more than enough food to feed everyone on earth

Jupstar ✪

usa dominance, these bags should have the euro symbol smh

True. We'd heavily need to export knowledge and technology

Ryozuki

usa dominance, these bags should have the euro symbol smh

Lmao

09:18

More like Chinese currency

macron pissed off USA by visiting china

Jupstar ✪

True. We'd heavily need to export knowledge and technology

Problem is not lack of knowledge but there is hardly anyone who wants to learn and those that do want to run away from there asap

but imho its a good move

Future ready icons

europe shouldnt over-rely on murica

09:18

and we should make our own moves

Jupstar ✪

Future ready icons

Chinese often dont use emoji but their corresponding number like 886 - means bb

Overlord

Problem is not lack of knowledge but there is hardly anyone who wants to learn and those that do want to run away from there asap

I dunno. I doubt this is true for children. They just copy paste what their parents do

Europe has wet dream of absolute control like everyone else

Jupstar ✪

I dunno. I doubt this is true for children. They just copy paste what their parents do

Problem are also peers, and upbringing why be smart if strong and cool gets all benefits

09:20

Why change irrigation system if U can rob somone

09:20

Im not saying everyone is like that

Overlord

Also there are african countries that were never under "european occupation" and they are exactly same shitholes

Most were occupied by their local militias and warlords who had deals with the neighbouring europeans. It’s not by some intrinsic factor that africa is poor. It’s that it was always more profitable to use it as a resource

Also it's not like we could educate all of africa anyway. Even if all Europeans stop working and get teachers

But those are heavy weight that pull the rest down

in fact europe lacks teachers

This is simply a generational conflict that takes time

but the russia problem made the politicians aware

Ryozuki

in fact europe lacks teachers

Good that we have gpt4

of the need to be less dependant

09:21

on others

I wish I had this during school

Learath2

Most were occupied by their local militias and warlords who had deals with the neighbouring europeans. It’s not by some intrinsic factor that africa is poor. It’s that it was always more profitable to use it as a resource

Och please U make it sounds as if china or europe didnt have warlords both local, external, shitload of bandits, and being raided by others

Jupstar ✪

Good that we have gpt4

an american company

Ryozuki

an american company

Yep

Good that kenyans helped train chatgpt by being manual filters of gore text and such

tf is this conversation

ReiTW

tf is this conversation

typical offtopic tw convo

and their pay was also wonderful 3$ a day?

ReiTW

tf is this conversation

ReiTW

tf is this conversation

I would be more concerned about the hour

3$ a day for them is a lot

09:23

i think

Looks like everyone here fake works or has day off

i start at 12

09:23

so my time aligns a bit with america

Ryozuki

3$ a day for them is a lot

Yea which is problem, because if U dont do it at this rate, somone else will

I fake work xd

also fake work ofc

09:23

if u dont fake work ur dumb

09:23

u will be given more work

Overlord

Och please U make it sounds as if china or europe didnt have warlords both local, external, shitload of bandits, and being raided by others

And your point is that africans by some miracle were dumber than any other human on earth? Stop being silly. It’s much more likely that they were no less intelligent than the average european peasent dominated by their local lord

Ryozuki

u will be given more work

Thats why i changed jobs to ones where there is no work only support

My concentration is completely gone since covid xd

And the support is very rare (edited)

xd

I could do two jobs in time of one

09:24

But im not even doing one

i do that, but instead of another job my side projects

09:24

someday ill make a profitable side project somehow

09:24

but i just lack the creativity to monetize

My side project is reading mangas

or do smth that can be monetized

Overlord

My side project is reading mangas

that too

Overlord

Looks like everyone here fake works or has day off

I work and have discord at the same time, ez

Jupstar ✪

My concentration is completely gone since covid xd

True, had same thing first time it happend in 2 months U will be okay

Thinking the incredible poverty of the global south is their own fault is about as insane as claiming 2x2=5

lea try not to be based challenge, impossible difficulty

Learath2

Thinking the incredible poverty of the global south is their own fault is about as insane as claiming 2x2=5

Ach right then it"s always somone else fault

Ryozuki

but i just lack the creativity to monetize

If all devs here would team up we could easily create something profitable

@Overlord https://mangadex.org/title/ab41d97a-0725-4f37-85db-da001d4ff0dc/chi-no-wadachi

Blood on the Tracks - MangaDex

Seiichi Osabe is just a normal if not insular 14-year-old boy with a beautiful, loving mother and a hardworking father. The bond between him and his mother is iron-clad, but when an accident involving his cousin sows the seeds of doubt in his head, Seiichi begins to question whether his mother's doting nature is normal, or something more siniste...

09:25

i heard this manga is superb (edited)

09:26

i need to read it yet tho

Super or super perv?

super good

Ok

oyasumi punpun level of good

09:26

so godly

Overlord

Ach right then it"s always somone else fault

Newsflash, some things are other peoples fault

Jupstar ✪

If all devs here would team up we could easily create something profitable

true

Do you think it was Poland’s fault the Nazi’s invaded?

kek

09:27

careful here

09:27

kek

@Learath2 well they can only blame their ancestors like i do mine for, not making more cash with salt centuries ago

Learath2

Do you think it was Poland’s fault the Nazi’s invaded?

Yes

BASEDHALT

It was polands fault because they fought a war prior to that thus were weak as fuck

i just find it so funny someone with a kid in a pfp talking about these things

Would an argument such as “Poland should have been smarter and better prepared” sound sane to you? If so there is nothing to discuss here, you and I fundamentally disagree on ethics, morality and logic

poland was asking for it. did you see what they were wearing?

Then they for offer from nazis to hey wanna team up which they answered "no fak off" so then ribentrop molotov happend

what the fuck is this

tuesday shenanigans

Learath2

Would an argument such as “Poland should have been smarter and better prepared” sound sane to you? If so there is nothing to discuss here, you and I fundamentally disagree on ethics, morality and logic

Actually it all falls back to stupid laws in poland before 1773

09:29

1772

09:29

So its our own fault

09:29

For proritizing short term greed

In todays episode of global atrocity apologia by based online guy

r u polski?

Over wellbeing of everyone

Ryozuki

r u polski?

Ye

the nazis are clearly at fault since they invaded

09:29

they didnt have to

@Overlord i thought u were hungarian or smth

09:29

more poor

No my 700€ ispoland min wage

funman

the nazis are clearly at fault since they invaded

Apparently not, survival of the fittest is the only thing these people ever argue about

"I murdered this guy, but its his own fault for being so weak."

Learath2

Apparently not, survival of the fittest is the only thing these people ever argue about

Well U have to understand germany standing after ww1

btw i saw in the news another shooting in murica

09:30

they never cease to amaze

Was terrible french treated people like shit

more guns pls

09:30

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65233350

Louisville, Kentucky: Gunman kills five in bank shooting

The former intern opened fire on staff in a conference room at the bank, livestreaming the attack.

So no wonder they were fed up and when chance came they went for another wat

its so sad

Five people died when an employee opened fire at a bank in Louisville, Kentucky, and livestreamed the attack on Instagram, police say.

nothing will ever change here

the guy was live streaming

09:30

the shooting

09:30

xd

09:31

modern world

Ryozuki

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65233350

Who could have forseen this? Problems don’t solve themselves?

Mostly because the ww1 could go on and on just germans saw no point so it was more like semi draw

an employee?

Ryozuki

the guy was live streaming

If the shot people had a gun ~~~ merican mumbling

anyways id love to keep dicussing the nazi apologizing, but I do need to finish a paper

funman

its so sad

Shooting or offtopic? Because its everyday for both

Overlord

Shooting or offtopic? Because its everyday for both

all the shootings that happen here and people will blame it on trans people instead of guns

So if U want to put fault on somone for poland standing in ww2 U can blame 1. French from 1920s, 2. Bolschevicks, 3. Poles prior to 1772

Overlord

Mostly because the ww1 could go on and on just germans saw no point so it was more like semi draw

Ok, question. Do you actually think Poland would be better off if not for the brutal occupation that lasted half a decade?

Learath2

Ok, question. Do you actually think Poland would be better off if not for the brutal occupation that lasted half a decade?

Woot occupation in poland ended in 80s

09:33

The occupation from 1772 was for 123 years

Overlord

Woot occupation in poland ended in 80s

After nazis came reds

Overlord

So if U want to put fault on somone for poland standing in ww2 U can blame 1. French from 1920s, 2. Bolschevicks, 3. Poles prior to 1772

not the nazis tho?

@Ryozuki what I'd actually find a funny test, even if illegal, would be if 4 people contribute as one person to look completely overpowered xdd

However long it was, do you think you’d have fared better if your country wasn’t occupied, your libraries razed, your people slaughtered for thinking?

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Learath2

However long it was, do you think you’d have fared better if your country wasn’t occupied, your libraries razed, your people slaughtered for thinking?

Quite possibly yes, but also no, if 1772 problems didnt happen we would be worse, but after solving those if no ww2 then yes we would be better off

funman

not the nazis tho?

Can U blame somone for wanting to better their lifes?

sendhelp

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lol

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Overlord

Can U blame somone for wanting to better their lifes?

insane take

I just don’t quite understand how it’s difficult to grasp how centuries of physical occupation and another century of proxy occupation had insane effects on Africa

Learath2

I just don’t quite understand how it’s difficult to grasp how centuries of physical occupation and another century of proxy occupation had insane effects on Africa

Because prior to that Africa was the same

09:37

How external occuption is different from internal when they both exploit U

Overlord

Can U blame somone for wanting to better their lifes?

the answer of course is yes. the treaty of versailles in no way justifies their horrific campaign

09:38

like serial killers often are abused as children, doesnt mean they get to murder people

Overlord

How external occuption is different from internal when they both exploit U

Because your resources are leaving your country, for no benefit of you at all. European lords profited off their peasantry, but their insane wealth was contained within europe

funman

the answer of course is yes. the treaty of versailles in no way justifies their horrific campaign

Well as a single perosn U have to understand how hard it is to say no to atrocities when everyone is doing it, so i dont blame regular people, only the madmen that had expansionist super human race ideas

Learath2

Because your resources are leaving your country, for no benefit of you at all. European lords profited off their peasantry, but their insane wealth was contained within europe

European leaders were inbred with each other so one could claim, we are all big familly

Overlord

Well as a single perosn U have to understand how hard it is to say no to atrocities when everyone is doing it, so i dont blame regular people, only the madmen that had expansionist super human race ideas

I 100% blame people who were nazis and followed the ultra nationalistic dogshit no matter how sad their story is

funman

I 100% blame people who were nazis and followed the ultra nationalistic dogshit no matter how sad their story is

Ok so rn do U blame all russians for whats going on in ukraine?

09:40

Or only those that are conscripted

Overlord

Ok so rn do U blame all russians for whats going on in ukraine?

I never said it was all germans fault poland got invaded, i said it was the nazis fault

funman

I 100% blame people who were nazis and followed the ultra nationalistic dogshit no matter how sad their story is

Did U even know. What they did with unwilling people?

09:40

But NAZIS are GERMAN

09:41

Its not some aliens that took over germany

09:41

The non nazis germans were prosecuted

09:41

Disabled people were sent to euthanazia centers

Assigning blame exactly isn’t the issue here. Whether blame is external or internal is the discussion we were having

Overlord

Did U even know. What they did with unwilling people?

I dont consider people conscripted against there will nazis, and shocker btw many people were willing participants

If U didnt escape prior Ur chance of escaping was null

Overlord

But NAZIS are GERMAN

nazis are people who follow the ideology

there are american nazis and spanish nazis

funman

I dont consider people conscripted against there will nazis, and shocker btw many people were willing participants

if not most but im being generous

some people from spain joined hitler to help in the war

Learath2

Assigning blame exactly isn’t the issue here. Whether blame is external or internal is the discussion we were having

Thats why i say dictatorship is best form of rulling, because U want to keep Ur country rich for ur kids

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Division

The Blue Division (Spanish: División Azul, German: Blaue Division) was a unit of volunteers from Francoist Spain operating from 1941 to 1943 within the German Army (Wehrmacht) on the Eastern Front during World War II. It was officially designated the Spanish Volunteer Division (División Española de Voluntarios) by the Spanish Army and 250th Infa...

09:43

see

Ryozuki

some people from spain joined hitler to help in the war

I blame czechs for no resistance

Overlord

Thats why i say dictatorship is best form of rulling, because U want to keep Ur country rich for ur kids

dictatorships famously great for human rights

Overlord

Thats why i say dictatorship is best form of rulling, because U want to keep Ur country rich for ur kids

Works great in Russia xd

09:43

Really rich country

09:44

Or north Korea

Maybe I should have steered clear from politics, I forgot how much these kinds of edgy neo-monarchy individualist arguments annoy me

funman

dictatorships famously great for human rights

What, rights, but everything within country is property... (only first gen dictators were good :/. Because those tried to estabilish dynasties)

xD

Jupstar ✪

Really rich country

Venezuela too

Those are way different, they just want to get rich and live luxury even if their lives goes to shit

humans are complicated, even with democracy they do bad stuff, perfection doesnt exist

Like with a terrible monarch every now and then

No sense in debating people in tw discord. Didnt realize how insane you were and I really need to write a paper

Ryozuki

humans are complicated, even with democracy they do bad stuff, perfection doesnt exist

Indirect democracy is as bad as monarchy

i always said i want direct democracy with votings on every new law

I wish I could send you back in time so you could experience some monarchy. This isn’t HOI4, it’s real life

funman

No sense in debating people in tw discord. Didnt realize how insane you were and I really need to write a paper

How am i insane, because i claim the current system sucks and is no different than wool over dictatorship? Its same as it was except with current system they get 4-5 years to steal as much as they can

@Learath2 i think most ppl arent affected they just followed the religion of turn and didnt do much bad

Learath2

I wish I could send you back in time so you could experience some monarchy. This isn’t HOI4, it’s real life

Didnt play hearts of iron

also spain is a monarchy btw

Learath2

I wish I could send you back in time so you could experience some monarchy. This isn’t HOI4, it’s real life

God i wish a was a serf

"democratic monarchy" kek

09:47

the elected president has to be accepted by the king, even if its a formality

09:47

ii wonder what would happen if the king didnt accept

God i wish i was a farmer, had a wife and unless some random bandit raid my village live somewhat happy with many festivities and break in middle of a day

Ryozuki

ii wonder what would happen if the king didnt accept

They would probably get rid of him

Overlord

Didnt play hearts of iron

Whatever paradox game you enjoy doesn’t quite portray the life of a peasant living in a monarchy

Why have a pawn U can't play

Overlord

How am i insane, because i claim the current system sucks and is no different than wool over dictatorship? Its same as it was except with current system they get 4-5 years to steal as much as they can

I suppose you are young and have read too much plato, I really hope you grow out of these beliefs, because this is just sad to see

Overlord

God i wish i was a farmer, had a wife and unless some random bandit raid my village live somewhat happy with many festivities and break in middle of a day

a wife and 10 kids

justatest

1

09:48

put the kids to work

Learath2

Whatever paradox game you enjoy doesn’t quite portray the life of a peasant living in a monarchy

Now Ur life is not in Ur hands either, rockets, engineered disease, U name it means to get rid of somone or make their live miserable are only growing

Mfw pope asks me to march to jerusalem to save the religion and I die of dysentery

xd

funman

I suppose you are young and have read too much plato, I really hope you grow out of these beliefs, because this is just sad to see

I prefer taoism over greek plihosophies

Learath2

Mfw pope asks me to march to jerusalem to save the religion and I die of dysentery

Only "good" families could do so

09:49

So yeah @Learath2 It was "fun" activity for people back then

Overlord

God i wish i was a farmer, had a wife and unless some random bandit raid my village live somewhat happy with many festivities and break in middle of a day

this seems to me like you are very unhappy with how your life currently is and you are over romanticizing these other lives as a form of optimism. that maybe things will get better

Only for privileged i mean

the only way you will be happy is if you work to improve your mental health

funman

this seems to me like you are very unhappy with how your life currently is and you are over romanticizing these other lives as a form of optimism. that maybe things will get better

Well i dont like my life being controled by technology and every move, word, product i buy registered

09:50

@Learath2 remember childeren crusade?

Overlord

Well i dont like my life being controled by technology and every move, word, product i buy registered

I will fund your flight to Alaska

Those wimps didnt even make it alive to the shore probably 10-15% did

Overlord

Well i dont like my life being controled by technology and every move, word, product i buy registered

abandon this paranoia and just live a normal life

09:51

I dont disagree that people are opressed by the elites in a fundamentally classist society

Learath2

I will fund your flight to Alaska

I have a dog to take with me, broken ankle and im dead but on bright side better young than old

funman

abandon this paranoia and just live a normal life

But im living normal life?

but even under this framework you need to be able to find happiness first

I work i sleep, i buy groceries and repeat

a dog that enjoys to poop

Everyday, atleast i came to terms with myself unless depressed learath

murpi

a dog that enjoys to poop

And fart and many other things i guess

I seem to be unable to help you internet people at all

09:53

So many times ive given lea advice and he has taken none of it

funman

I seem to be unable to help you internet people at all

Only beatings can cure my disorder

maybe if I could speak with you all in person idk

Anyway, I need to get going. This has been an “interesting” conversation. I hadn’t heard anyone argue that african people are intrinsically inferior in a while

at the end of the day you have to be willing to change and it seems like none of you are

funman

maybe if I could speak with you all in person idk

If learath funds my alaska U can find me there

Hopefully I don’t have to hear this one again in a while

because at the end of the day your misery has a form of comfort to it because it is what you know

Learath2

Anyway, I need to get going. This has been an “interesting” conversation. I hadn’t heard anyone argue that african people are intrinsically inferior in a while

Never did i say they were inferior just their enviorment doesnt let them grow

09:54

Mostly because they dont have to plan for future

you all are too scared of the unknown to abandon your misery

funman

you all are too scared of the unknown to abandon your misery

Which is what? What is that unknown

09:55

Im like electricity i go through easiest path of resistance

puttign yourself out there and being uncomfortabe

09:56

lea complains about no girlfriend, when that shit is so easy to get, but he literally never tries

09:56

he says social skills are bad, but then doesnt work to improve them

Where is out there? Do i have to change jobs again? Or U mean i really should move to alaska where my chances of survival are dull because i dont know the ways of living there

you all choose to stay in your comfortable misery

funman

lea complains about no girlfriend, when that shit is so easy to get, but he literally never tries

He probably wants perfect GF from start

funman

you all choose to stay in your comfortable misery

Just tell me what i do wrong

what makes you unhappy

Im semi content with how things are i only lack a bit more money

you hate your job?

09:57

yourself?

09:57

youre lonely?

09:57

what is it

09:57

you may not even know yourself

Overlord

Well i dont like my life being controled by technology and every move, word, product i buy registered

why do u use winshit then

I hate being forced to wake up at hours my body clearly has problems with, I do hate parts of myself that choose comfort over achievment

anyways if you are able to figure it out

09:58

fucking work to improve it

funman

he says social skills are bad, but then doesnt work to improve them

life is not that easy in that "just do X" will work for everyone

Ryozuki

why do u use winshit then

Because thats what landed me a job, and all my computer knowledge comes from tomfoolery with programs and games and they were for windows

r u depressed? "just be happy"

09:58

same kind of say

Ryozuki

life is not that easy in that "just do X" will work for everyone

maybe if youre autistic

09:59

but social skills are just that a skill

u dont need to be autistic to not be that good at social things

you can break it down and work to improve it

09:59

anaylze what people do who are good at socializing

Actually social skills are doable, problem is lea tries thing, makes opinion on it and never tries again

its also a problem of the modern world

09:59

technology makes it harder to find places to meet others

and practing implementing it

09:59

its not fucking hard

Ryozuki

its also a problem of the modern world

Image attachment

xd

Ryozuki

technology makes it harder to find places to meet others

it makes easier if you actually try

10:00

but none of you guys do

Bruh he just put us all in one bag

yeah

When ryozuki never complains, trains and learns things he wants, while i subconsiously want easiest life possible

10:01

So i still dont understand what i do wrong, except my self sense of achievment which is probably due to my childhood im prettt ok

funman

lea complains about no girlfriend, when that shit is so easy to get, but he literally never tries

Your trivialization of my trouble is pretty sadge

Overlord

So i still dont understand what i do wrong, except my self sense of achievment which is probably due to my childhood im prettt ok

Idk you well enough

bruh im tryna to socialize i just am socializing much harder but im tryin to

Also there is internet in the metro apparently, so I can continue this extremely edgy conversation

Learath2

Also there is internet in the metro apparently, so I can continue this extremely edgy conversation

Seek @moon

can malloc give u unaligned memory

10:03

ask this to ur gf

Learath2

Your trivialization of my trouble is pretty sadge

from my perspective i feel like Im telling you exactly how you can improve your situation, but you dont implement it

Ryozuki

can malloc give u unaligned memory

No

@Learath2 its not joke, he has been through exactly same trouble (i would say even way bigger)

10:04

@Learath2 i cant say anymore to respect his privacy but seek him out

funman

from my perspective i feel like Im telling you exactly how you can improve your situation, but you dont implement it

I do not want to make you feel bad about it, Im sorry for being so agressive

@Ryozuki doing jumping jacks at work because im cold, heating season is gone :/

Overlord

Because thats what landed me a job, and all my computer knowledge comes from tomfoolery with programs and games and they were for windows

so ur developer

Gewinum

so ur developer

Wtf no

10:05

Im IT support

lol

In a place that requires no support

10:05

Before i was IT support at hospital and couldnt even have 5min break someday

was u receivin more salary at hospital?

Yeah like 45€more BUT due to change of min wage it would equalize in january

Overlord

@Ryozuki doing jumping jacks at work because im cold, heating season is gone :/

gym is better, weights are hard to replace

funman

I do not want to make you feel bad about it, Im sorry for being so agressive

Worry not, I already feel so awful that you can't say much to that effect

Gewinum

was u receivin more salary at hospital?

+ i wouldnt get any beenfits

How did the conversation end up here anyway? I want to address the monarchy enjoyer instead

Like christmas $$

Overlord

Yeah like 45€more BUT due to change of min wage it would equalize in january

is it in month

Yes

bro watafuk 45€ in exchange for ur mental health xdd

Learath2

How did the conversation end up here anyway? I want to address the monarchy enjoyer instead

one of my close friends brother is a monarchist "alpha male" type. weird kid

Gewinum

bro watafuk 45€ in exchange for ur mental health xdd

Yeah, hospital had its pluses too, would learn more especially about large company networks, workday was 7h 35min instead or 8, and atmosphere was better at my "office" but also worse because manager was crazy woman who went happy mad like metronome

Overlord

He probably wants perfect GF from start

I actually have no requirements. One thing people are right about that it's a skill. Experiences are how you develop them

Here its more like old people house, where everythjng is slow

Learath2

I actually have no requirements. One thing people are right about that it's a skill. Experiences are how you develop them

Well i fear the day U get one, and she turns to hurt U or emotionally manipulate

Overlord

Yeah, hospital had its pluses too, would learn more especially about large company networks, workday was 7h 35min instead or 8, and atmosphere was better at my "office" but also worse because manager was crazy woman who went happy mad like metronome

pluses?

funman

one of my close friends brother is a monarchist "alpha male" type. weird kid

Bizarre behaviour. One person decicing everything is truly the worst form of decision making I can think of

But maybe U get lucky? And she will be normal

Overlord

But maybe U get lucky? And she will be normal

are you from slav countries?

Gewinum

are you from slav countries?

Poland

Overlord

Well i fear the day U get one, and she turns to hurt U or emotionally manipulate

I'll take it. Experience is experience

Overlord

Poland

nice

Learath2

Bizarre behaviour. One person decicing everything is truly the worst form of decision making I can think of

I understand the appeal since it is the most effective form of government yet the most prone to corruption

Learath2

I'll take it. Experience is experience

But U are the type that tries something once, and if didnt like it, doesnt try again

10:11

Dictators dont get to decide everything, its a myth

10:12

They would have to hold absolute military power to do so

funman

I understand the appeal since it is the most effective form of government yet the most prone to corruption

Better have 1 person stealing than a thousand xd

funman

I understand the appeal since it is the most effective form of government yet the most prone to corruption

like platos ideal of the philosopher king is good but it is impossible in reality

Gewinum

nice

And U?

georgia

Noice, can i know if U earn better than me?

Devinci

Better have 1 person stealing than a thousand xd

power is much better spread out, less prone to corruption

Overlord

Noice, can i know if U earn better than me?

i'm 16

even better if the power is controlled by those it effects

funman

power is much better spread out, less prone to corruption

"We investigated ourselves and everything is in order"

Overlord

"We investigated ourselves and everything is in order"

not immune obv

Gewinum

i'm 16

Im all for child labour xD, nah well then my advice is enjoy free time while it lasts

funman

I understand the appeal since it is the most effective form of government yet the most prone to corruption

How is central control of everything most effective? Maybe it's most coherent, but I can't imagine any metric of efficient that would make monarchy efficient

10:14

You can slowly reinvent a form of parliamentary democracy by slowly delegating parts of your power as the monarch for efficiency. But then how is it any better than what we have now?

10:14

I have the same problem with Anarchists. They keep reinventing government

even though corruption still exists in american democracy it is far less than in any autocracy that has ever existed

funman

power is much better spread out, less prone to corruption

For sure, but I was thinking about spain for example. They have like thousands of deputies and administration stuff for nothing. When you are just getting more and morr people uselessly it becomes quite bad

Learath2

How is central control of everything most effective? Maybe it's most coherent, but I can't imagine any metric of efficient that would make monarchy efficient

no gridlock or dissent

I find this politics conversation super funny

Overlord

Im all for child labour xD, nah well then my advice is enjoy free time while it lasts

cant enjoy

Because i on paper am goverment official

10:15

So im part of corruption

I even made a pledge that i will aomething something do my best for poland

funman

no gridlock or dissent

But instead you have latency

government official that works in it support sounds quite funny

10:16

no offense

10:16

just wanted to jk xdd

Goverment is often prone to hacking attempts

10:17

But i dont deal with such stuff aside for phising emails, its goverment branch above me that has to worry

Learath2

But instead you have latency

listen im not going to go to bat for autocracy, but change is very slow in america

Gewinum

just wanted to jk xdd

Its fine, this infrastructure is a joke, one ransomware and we are gone

whereas maos industrialization was incredibly effective at transforming china quickly

Overlord

Its fine, this infrastructure is a joke, one ransomware and we are gone

Everything here is like in 2005 but it"s just where i am, hospital was decent and i think main branch is too (aka city hall)

ataturk as well

funman

whereas maos industrialization was incredibly effective at transforming china quickly

Chinese always play long game, because they have clans instead of families

stalins five year plan

10:19

in this way autocracys are far more effective

Well not having to go through 150 different gov organizations makes anything fast and effective

10:20

Problem starts when U make a mistake in law but fixing it would be loss of face

Devinci

For sure, but I was thinking about spain for example. They have like thousands of deputies and administration stuff for nothing. When you are just getting more and morr people uselessly it becomes quite bad

enchufados

10:21

this is why nobody considers goverment workers the same as company workers

10:21

gov workers have no fear of being laid off

10:21

simply because its incredibly hard

10:21

fck em

10:21

(in spain)

EY

10:21

its same everywhere

Nah

Metro internet is shit wtf

I'm surprised you even have internet in the metro xd

Its really hard to get rid of gov employee the only way is to delete entire workplace ( his spot) as in reduction

funman

listen im not going to go to bat for autocracy, but change is very slow in america

But american democracy is engineered to make change slow. The entire purpose of the senate is to keep change slow

But then U will get less cash next year

i had a professor that was rly bad in a public school, they could only make him not work for one year and then he could return again

Devinci

I'm surprised you even have internet in the metro xd

It's new

its hilarious

Learath2

It's new

Like, free public wifi?

Learath2

But american democracy is engineered to make change slow. The entire purpose of the senate is to keep change slow

its mainly because we have a duopoly and they vote exaclty down party lines 99% of the time

Yeah, well my coworker and boss who keeps everything except new pcs old as fuck

internet in metro here is the most normal thing

Literally told principal / director that he doesnt want to work

i never considered it to be smth rare xd

And still nothing happend she could only take his bonus from pay

barcelona best

but trust me i much rather have what we have now then take a chance that a dictator would align with my beliefs and be a good guy

I'm not a big metro user ^^' And I usually stay on 4g

@Devinci he means that too

funman

but trust me i much rather have what we have now then take a chance that a dictator would align with my beliefs and be a good guy

If not this dictator then next :-D

having 4g in metro requires infrastructure

10:24

i also use 4g

Ohh okay, yeah seems more logical

Overlord

If not this dictator then next :-D

That's too optimistic

Devinci

That's too optimistic

Ofc that was a joke

Overlord

If not this dictator then next :-D

what if there is no next because dictator #1 decided on nuclear holocaust

ddnet is a BDFL

10:25

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_dictator_for_life

Benevolent dictator for life

Benevolent dictator for life (BDFL) is a title given to a small number of open-source software development leaders, typically project founders who retain the final say in disputes or arguments within the community. The phrase originated in 1995 with reference to Guido van Rossum, creator of the Python programming language. Shortly after Van Ross...

But i m sure some people say it seriously

Even best dictator might have bad day and take Ur head off the body

deen is our lord

Overlord

Even best dictator might have bad day and take Ur head off the body

then why are you advocating for it

Ryozuki

deen is our lord

Amen

funman

what if there is no next because dictator #1 decided on nuclear holocaust

That would be problematic, he would have to have no self preservation instinct

10:25

Which nearly all dictators have because they grow paranoid

10:25

Like stalin

10:26

Or like cao cao of ancient china

10:26

Dictators always fear for their lives :v

Overlord

That would be problematic, he would have to have no self preservation instinct

or have terminal cancer like putin is rumour to have

funman

then why are you advocating for it

Because out of existing systems that one i find most appealing, and currently best

funman

in this way autocracys are far more effective

There is a place for them in extremely dysfunctional countries. But notice the couple we can think of as successful changes immediately removed this level of power. Ataturk, Lee Kuan Yew, etc all knew they needed extreme power for change, but also knew it's not a great idea to keep ruling like that

10:27

And you can only think of a handful to begin with. A lot started dysfunctional, kept being dysfunctional

Learath2

There is a place for them in extremely dysfunctional countries. But notice the couple we can think of as successful changes immediately removed this level of power. Ataturk, Lee Kuan Yew, etc all knew they needed extreme power for change, but also knew it's not a great idea to keep ruling like that

ofc because it exceeding unlikely their sucessor will be not corrupt

E.g. Assad

I would advocate direct democracy but for that we would need Many MANY small societies

All i am saying is greater change is possible under autocracy, but more often than not this is very negative

But if U had omnipotent being, as a dictator, then would it be good? Would U be okay with it?

10:28

Religious lot which is huge part of humanity likes that idea

Devinci

Like, free public wifi?

Yep, tho it doesnt seem to work well when the metro is moving

Overlord

But if U had omnipotent being, as a dictator, then would it be good? Would U be okay with it?

not omnipotent but omnibenevolent

We don't get 4g in tunnels here, most of istanbul metro iss very deep tunneled

I would say that a philosopher king in theory is ideal, but is infinity impractical

If heaven is as described in bible it would be horrible, like old peoples home only sounds good to us because we dont have eternal bliss, and have hardships to enjoy the good times

funman

I would say that a philosopher king in theory is ideal, but is infinity impractical

Like marcus aurelius xd?

Overlord

Like marcus aurelius xd?

no human is able to live up to the standards to acceptably wield absolute power

10:31

and even if it were possible they were their sucessor wouldnt be

Learath2

Yep, tho it doesnt seem to work well when the metro is moving

I usually try avoiding any public stuff, can't be potentially be dangerous? But ig it is what it is

Imo ruler doesnt have to have any abilities other than discerning people and employing only those with ability and moral codex

Btw @funman what paper are you writing?

which is why we would need a long term stable form of governance

Learath2

Btw @funman what paper are you writing?

haha i do really need to finish that

Devinci

I usually try avoiding any public stuff, can't be potentially be dangerous? But ig it is what it is

I'm perma on vpn anyway

its on the physics of motor proteins in the cells

Ah yeah, I'm not. Seems smarter

with a primary focus on the mathemical models of kinesins

10:32

as they are the most understood

10:32

due to their linear locomotion

Then dont waste time on social issues here, and advance us to the next age!

Overlord

Then dont waste time on social issues here, and advance us to the next age!

unfortunately I have internet mind rot and think way too much about politics

Learath2

We don't get 4g in tunnels here, most of istanbul metro iss very deep tunneled

i think wifi is worse in metro due to the tech, iirc 4g is rly good at adapting to movement and finding new towers so fast u dont notice disruption

Overlord

Imo ruler doesnt have to have any abilities other than discerning people and employing only those with ability and moral codex

Which there is no guarantee a monarch would do. If u were the king maybe. I would discern and employ only popular people so they can teach me how to party

Ryozuki

i think wifi is worse in metro due to the tech, iirc 4g is rly good at adapting to movement and finding new towers so fast u dont notice disruption

Too deep for proper 4g coverage. I heard the APs are on the trains and they connect to WAN using a special technology. Though it seems to be shit

Learath2

Which there is no guarantee a monarch would do. If u were the king maybe. I would discern and employ only popular people so they can teach me how to party

Sounds reasonable social etiquette is needed for a good politican/king

10:35

Btw its funny U guys dont like monarchy

10:36

When all game servers use it

10:36

On ddnet U have admins

10:36

Them vassals moderators

10:36

Who each oversee some land

Learath2

Too deep for proper 4g coverage. I heard the APs are on the trains and they connect to WAN using a special technology. Though it seems to be shit

dude it doesnt work this way, u install antenas inside the metro, we do that in bcn

And then the lower class

10:36

Developers would be clergymen

10:36

And graphics dev noblemen

i think xd

10:37

i have 4g and some metros are rly deep

10:37

with 4 bars sometimes

Ryozuki

dude it doesnt work this way, u install antenas inside the metro, we do that in bcn

Well yes, but the providers arent interested in spending the money. So public money has to be spent, public likes cheap. I'm guessing the wifi was cheaper than paying the providers

What did I miss? Tldr

10:39

Last time I read, Nazis conquer Poland (edited)

Jupstar ✪

What did I miss? Tldr

Monarchy good, monarchy bad, monarchy good, public wifi wtf, public wifi bad, y not 4g

And were morally the good one

Learath2

Monarchy good, monarchy bad, monarchy good, public wifi wtf, public wifi bad, y not 4g

XD thx

Jupstar ✪

What did I miss? Tldr

Politics, social life, wifi, something about motors in cells (didnt know they jail motorcycles)

There was also mention of pluto's philosopher king

Also most important how africa is at fault no matter what it does or doesnt*

What the fuck is social life

Its something elusive

10:40

U cant touch it but it exists

Something like null in database

Hohenhein

HOHENHEIM

I rather have hohoin

10:41

Ach yes

brushing

Jupstar ✪

XD thx

Oh I also missed that they called me useless for not finding a gf

learath looking for gf

Learath2

Oh I also missed that they called me useless for not finding a gf

NOT THEY

Me too but i have high standards

10:42

And don't get depressed by not finding one

Ryozuki

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"i use rust"

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Jupstar ✪

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"i was forced to use cpp"

justatest

Overlord

NOT THEY

Ok it was only funman, he reminded me my one goal in life was absolutely trivial for everyone else

If it helps U, my uncle had only one gf in his life, she left him after few years

Overlord

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And he sued her for alimoney on cat

Ryozuki

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Hairtransplant costs about as much as

️

Overlord

If it helps U, my uncle had only one gf in his life, she left him after few years

How is that supposed to help? He atleast had one

10:44

wtf

Learath2

How is that supposed to help? He atleast had one

U could be paying now alimoney (edited)

Ryozuki

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First ep i think

Dragon ball took a strange turn

Overlord

U could be paying now alimoney (edited)

I can afford it atleast

Ryozuki

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Xdd episode 2

Devinci

Dragon ball took a strange turn

bola de drac was initially a perv kid with super strength ngl

Well then get a girl wtf

Truee

with a perv old man

10:46

Fuck so tired xdd

Overlord

Well then get a girl wtf

Exactly my point. But I'm having sourcing issues

Jupstar ✪

Fuck so tired xdd

Sleep

@Learath2

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Good idea

i slept sometimes during work hours

10:47

home office

@Learath2 seek moon the guy i pinged

just put he phoen with sounds

@Learath2 he will tell U the way how to get a gf with ur "issues"

10:48

I mean she wont have ur issues

10:48

English is weird

10:48

It means U dont have to overcome Ur problems

10:48

To arrive at solution

I just need to find a very social friend. Then I'll join them in everything until I find a gf the way normies do

Learath2

Ok it was only funman, he reminded me my one goal in life was absolutely trivial for everyone else

If you are actually serious about wanting to get a girlfriend I can help you out and make that happen. I just dont think you would take the steps, regardless if you do or not eventually you will find someone as most people do

It's all planned nowadays

Learath2

It's all planned nowadays

Have u tried to do dancing?

funman

If you are actually serious about wanting to get a girlfriend I can help you out and make that happen. I just dont think you would take the steps, regardless if you do or not eventually you will find someone as most people do

Despite him being mega depressed he wont follow instructions that dont come from trusted authority (himself)

It's probably the highest chance to get to know a girl

So U might aswell be convincing a raccoon to start academic career unless it comes to conclusion itself it wont

Jupstar ✪

It's probably the highest chance to get to know a girl

Yeah girl friend not GF they will think ya geh (edited)

Jupstar ✪

Have u tried to do dancing?

Going out alone to an activity I've never done before is a little beyond my level of human experience

10:52

This is why I need a turbosocial friend so they can take me places

Overlord

Despite him being mega depressed he wont follow instructions that dont come from trusted authority (himself)

I actually think its a product of his depression

Learath2

Going out alone to an activity I've never done before is a little beyond my level of human experience

Told U many times to go to any club might even be sports something easy like fake martial arts

depression is a cycle

Learath2

This is why I need a turbosocial friend so they can take me places

A wingman

The thing is depression actually has an evolutionary benefit

funman

depression is a cycle

True it comes and goes too tho, its never all the time there

Its purpose is to make you conserve energy

Overlord

Despite him being mega depressed he wont follow instructions that dont come from trusted authority (himself)

All I ask for is some reasoning for the advice. I won't do things that don't make sense to me. All other advice I appreciate very much

Overlord

True it comes and goes too tho, its never all the time there

no im not saying its cyclic though it can be im saying it is self perpetuating

U better tell me how society benefits from paying me to sit my ass and do nothing all day @funman (edited)

Learath2

I just need to find a very social friend. Then I'll join them in everything until I find a gf the way normies do

That's the same mentality I have xd. But then the little friends I have are even worst than me justatest

justatest

Overlord

U better tell me how society benefits from paying me to sit my ass and do nothing all day @funman (edited)

Id rather live in a society where peoples basic needs are met regardless if they contribute labor

@Learath2 then go into some forum and talk with ppl around there? I know at least one person that found his gf over a forum lmao

Jupstar ✪

@Learath2 then go into some forum and talk with ppl around there? I know at least one person that found his gf over a forum lmao

the truth is this is unlikely

imagine finding a gf that likes rust

Learath2

All I ask for is some reasoning for the advice. I won't do things that don't make sense to me. All other advice I appreciate very much

Wanna know where i met the only girl i liked? Was some stupid ass IT competition for local schools, but female friends i have met at cooking classes ( for all ages ) and language school

Ryozuki

imagine finding a gf that likes rust

Rust is the gf

Devinci

That's the same mentality I have xd. But then the little friends I have are even worst than me justatest

justatest

All the friends I've made are pretty similar to me, so they are dead ends. They also would rather sit home and play games or write code

you ought to be more active in trying rather than hoping a GF will stumble into you

kek

Just try anything that is done in groups and its BEST that u go alone and dont know anybody

10:55

Because i bet my ass U will stick to the friend and thus wont talk to anyone he is not talking to

funman

the truth is this is unlikely

Just go where the girls are

If a friend could find GF over phone (not tinder and shit just voice only) and she didnt took his kidneys i say anybody can

Overlord

If a friend could find GF over phone (not tinder and shit just voice only) and she didnt took his kidneys i say anybody can

anyone can but not everyone can

10:57

like imagine a life boat that can hold 400 people

10:57

anyone is capable of getting on the boat

10:57

but not everyone can fit

@Learath2 what is important is that u should accept that no person is perfect. That includes u as well as the girl. If u'd truely want to find a gf u simply have to start chatting with some girl and see if u like her and maybe she even likes u

@Ryozuki imagine i could have spent this time learning corrode/oxidize compiling language but instead i took the offtopic chat again

funman

but not everyone can fit

There are less females than males (birth rate) but more grannies than grandpas so he has chances, he claimed to not have any requirements

But to be honest many ppl aren't even trying. And then it won't work anyway

10:58

I also doubt u are actually open for it

Jupstar ✪

@Learath2 what is important is that u should accept that no person is perfect. That includes u as well as the girl. If u'd truely want to find a gf u simply have to start chatting with some girl and see if u like her and maybe she even likes u

All the girls I know are already taken and I just don't do any activities where I might encounter new ones. It's doomed without someone to take me to new activities

10:59

Or me somehow getting over crippling anxiety randomly

Not like u could start like some shit game where the whole goal is to chat xd

Ok now listen to this guys 1 man 1 wife But many men for one waifu 2D mastereace

Learath2

All the girls I know are already taken and I just don't do any activities where I might encounter new ones. It's doomed without someone to take me to new activities

Try dating apps please

11:00

I will help you set up a profile if you want

In Germany there is Habbo hotel and Knuddels xDD

Do they work?

If u want German girl, go ahead

justatest

Devinci

Do they work?

only if ur a super model

Devinci

Do they work?

Ofc they get paid milions app work just fine, but finding gf there ehhh i dont think so

otherwise u only see models

funman

Try dating apps please

Dating app mostly will fail tho

funman

Try dating apps please

Way ahead of you, I'm doing a photoshoot soon

poggers2

1

It will get him super depressed

Jupstar ✪

Dating app mostly will fail tho

you will face a lot of rejection, but eventually you will find someone

Learath2

Way ahead of you, I'm doing a photoshoot soon

Have U ever tried... talking to people U dont know but are in same space time continuum

Yep.. eventually u get more depressed

11:01

BCS u get swiped most of the time

Like U know U wait on bus stop learath and then talk to somone (without harssment)

I recommend to try other sources first

Overlord

It will get him super depressed

Can't go below 0 on the mood scale coolcry

coolcry

Learath2

Can't go below 0 on the mood scale coolcry

coolcry

Except U are nowhere close 0 U aint even truly desperate

11:02

Imo U are like me and want to stay in status quo

11:02

U still have sense of shame

11:03

And other feelings somone desperate for something doesnt

Overlord

Except U are nowhere close 0 U aint even truly desperate

Yeah, I just roleplay

As said. U don't actually want to get to learn somebody

11:03

There are so many possibilities

11:03

Aaah wait

11:03

Wait

If somone offered U a wife for 60€ a month U would refuse 100% and if i found U a 50yo "mama" U would refuse too, because even tho U say U dont have standards U do

Jupstar ✪

As said. U don't actually want to get to learn somebody

Who do you propose I get to learn?

Overlord

If somone offered U a wife for 60€ a month U would refuse 100% and if i found U a 50yo "mama" U would refuse too, because even tho U say U dont have standards U do

Ofc I would. That's not real. I can definitely just buy a mail order bride on my own

Learath is the first person on earth with 4 billion females to be too bad for everyone

11:04

Forgot

Jupstar ✪

Learath is the first person on earth with 4 billion females to be too bad for everyone

facts

11:04

least date-able man on the planet

Jupstar ✪

Learath is the first person on earth with 4 billion females to be too bad for everyone

Hope you ain' t counting minors

Not to brag but i never been on a date either

despite the fact that he isnt a psycho incel

Underaged*

Jupstar ✪

Learath is the first person on earth with 4 billion females to be too bad for everyone

that's actually reversed, it's because he's not confident that he self destructs himself to prove his own thinking, it's a vicious circle

Learath2

Who do you propose I get to learn?

Just try to talk to anyone.. in-game.or a forum or sports or whatever

Is probably decent looking though i dont know

Infinite possibilities

seems intelligent

funman

despite the fact that he isnt a psycho incel

There are psycho incels that have been on dates, so that is saying something

Yeah and there were those that havent

Learath2

There are psycho incels that have been on dates, so that is saying something

should give you a lot of hope man

And only been to idol meetups

if people objectively far worse than you can do it

11:06

so can you

11:06

You are always so glass half full

@Learath2

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Learath2

You are always so glass half full

and Im not depressed

@Learath2 ok. Install dating app and talk to the ugliest most annoying person u can find

seems like the better choice imo

Jupstar ✪

Just try to talk to anyone.. in-game.or a forum or sports or whatever

I've been talking to people for 2 decades now. There is difference between friendly chatter and chatter that leads to a gf. I just did not come equipped with the social skills needed to do the other one

Learath2

I've been talking to people for 2 decades now. There is difference between friendly chatter and chatter that leads to a gf. I just did not come equipped with the social skills needed to do the other one

practice

Jupstar ✪

@Learath2 ok. Install dating app and talk to the ugliest most annoying person u can find

Hah he cant find me there!

Learath2

I've been talking to people for 2 decades now. There is difference between friendly chatter and chatter that leads to a gf. I just did not come equipped with the social skills needed to do the other one

I can help you practice

Learath2

I've been talking to people for 2 decades now. There is difference between friendly chatter and chatter that leads to a gf. I just did not come equipped with the social skills needed to do the other one

U also have to give the girl the feeling that u need and want her

11:08

And make her clear u want to be alone with her

11:08

And make this cristal clear

@Learath2 if this was mmorpg i would be Ur Gf and U wouldnt even know im a boy

Jupstar ✪

And make this cristal clear

Dont do it with people U only know for 5minutes tho

11:09

They might call cops

Xd

Overlord

@Learath2 if this was mmorpg i would be Ur Gf and U wouldnt even know im a boy

Are you that good at rp?

Dude i had so many simps

11:10

I flooded in items

Mhh that sucks tho

Trick is i could only do so in polish because its gendered language

Imagine one of them actually liked u

I always pretended to be a boy and sometimes made slips using female type of word

11:10

And then i would go on about how hard it is to be a girl in game so i pretend to be aboy

11:10

To be treated equally

Overlord

I always pretended to be a boy and sometimes made slips using female type of word

pretend to be a boy, we got em

funman

pretend to be a boy, we got em

That is a warcrime. I've reported you to the cops

But it works i invented this shit myself but i bet its popular

11:12

It was what 2007 -2014 (edited)

Thats just ewhoring

11:12

People make money like that for ages

Jupstar ✪

U also have to give the girl the feeling that u need and want her

It's honestly easier said than done. It takes a certain kind of language it seems. I just didn't get the guidebook everyone else seems to have gotten

No hate but assholes do this

Its just not Worth looking at all the dickpics you get

Learath2

It's honestly easier said than done. It takes a certain kind of language it seems. I just didn't get the guidebook everyone else seems to have gotten

I can borrow u mine

Ama

Its just not Worth looking at all the dickpics you get

It was good times, U had to upload it and send link so nearly 0 dick picks

Ama

Its just not Worth looking at all the dickpics you get

Depends on the profits. I'd be okay with it for about 500€/mo

I also didnt go into links because getting a virus or ip spoof was super easy

Learath2

Depends on the profits. I'd be okay with it for about 500€/mo

I only got gear and protection in game

11:14

I sometimes went clean too when people got too invested

11:15

Either way it helps to have a sister of girl. Friend to do this when after many days they want voice chat

11:16

Getting a boyfriend is easy, getting a gf isnt

11:17

To catfish a girl U have to be goodlooking atleast

11:17

They are good at manipulation so its hard to manipulate them

Overlord

Getting a boyfriend is easy, getting a gf isnt

It isnt as hard as people make it seem

Getting a bf is trivial. Just find me or the many others like me irl and you immediately got one. Ezclap

As if there are no girls like u

Learath2

Getting a bf is trivial. Just find me or the many others like me irl and you immediately got one. Ezclap

youre ignoring the fact extremely lonely women exist

U really have a distorted picture xd

funman

youre ignoring the fact extremely lonely women exist

Yeah but they already have cats

kek

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Lel

Learath2

Getting a bf is trivial. Just find me or the many others like me irl and you immediately got one. Ezclap

Well unless U find selfworth nobody will want U

Overlord

Well unless U find selfworth nobody will want U

half true

Why get a product that advertises itself as failure

its still possible

11:20

but hugely un attractive

11:20

also you should have self worth anyways to be a healthy individual

Look at this cat rn

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Learath2

Look at this cat rn

bro your apartment is sick

11:21

youre an artist?

funman

bro your apartment is sick

Just visiting a relative

ah lol

She is an artist

She is a female

11:21

Boom marry in familly

lmaoi

11:21

incest wincestç

Normal thing

Ryozuki

incest wincestç

funny c

ç

11:21

from catalan

11:22

plaça

Jupstar ✪

As if there are no girls like u

I honestly can't comprehend a computer engineering student girl ever being lonely. I don't think I've encountered any, ever

first ep of new kimetsu is 50 mins long

11:22

and superb animation (edited)

11:22

im watching it while i "work"

Ryozuki

from catalan

Also ç from turkish and from french

Learath2

I honestly can't comprehend a computer engineering student girl ever being lonely. I don't think I've encountered any, ever

XDDDDD

Learath2

I honestly can't comprehend a computer engineering student girl ever being lonely. I don't think I've encountered any, ever

they arent alone ever

@Learath2 atleast U dont look like middle aged man in Ur 20s with these hair on sides... (cries while looking into mirror)

U have to look in the medicine group of course

unless they are super fat i guess idk

Overlord

@Learath2 atleast U dont look like middle aged man in Ur 20s with these hair on sides... (cries while looking into mirror)

if your balding is that bad you can shave your head

11:23

generally looks better

men are starved from attention and woman get too much they get annoyed, such is life

funman

if your balding is that bad you can shave your head

Looks like hemiotheraphy

I have to go to architecture to see any concentration of girls to begin with

funman

if your balding is that bad you can shave your head

Atm both is bad

11:24

Thin hair in middle that slowly disappears

Just get gay.. all problems solved

And bushy or shaved sides

xd

Jupstar ✪

Just get gay.. all problems solved

facts

Jupstar ✪

Just get gay.. all problems solved

I could only be gay for U

become a monk

11:24

and pray

Ez

shine the head

overlord❤️ learath

11:25

problem solved

One of us can fo femboy route

11:25

BUT when femboys get old they get really ugly

Never seen an old femboy

With my balding i cant, and @Learath2 wants a Gf so we have a lose lose situation

Devinci

Never seen an old femboy

Rare species

Overlord

With my balding i cant, and @Learath2 wants a Gf so we have a lose lose situation

Transform yourself into a woman, you'll probably stop loosing hair. Win-win

My wrist hurts from smashing on phone this long, i should start using work pc for discord

11:30

@Learath2 just change the field, drop compiling languages, embrace memes

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Ryozuki

men are starved from attention and woman get too much they get annoyed, such is life

Can we trade a bit?

funman

generally looks better

Only if you got lucky with the head shape lottery

Just kidnap a woman already

11:32

@Learath2 when i was a kid i thought i will have interesting higschool life, i didnt, then i thought maybe young adult, didnt happen, so i reverse it and expect very stressful. Hard 30s, and i wanna see what happens

11:33

Its like those people who attract opposite of what they want ( pyramid scheme friends who want to get rich getting poor)

Overlord

Just kidnap a woman already

I'm not a degenerate

11:34

Well I am but not that kind

2

Ryozuki

become a monk

This is probably what I'm best spec'd for. Or maybe priest

I can go for monk since the balding already is too far gone

Rip xd

11:38

11:38

Get the next avatar

11:39

Wait he got a gf

11:39

Forgot

And they were even bending together

11:41

Wow maybe people think im not at work, cleaning lady was so surprised when she saw me

kek

1

Enhancement

@Ryozuki one friend of mine have this issue on manjaro in discord, do you know what can it be? something with fonts?

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i see the same xd

14:06

idk maybe a missing font

1

Ryozuki

i see the same xd

rly? wtf

monkalaugh

14:07

you should be seeing this feelsbadman

feelsbadman

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discord may use diferent fonts for diferent os

14:12

and symbols are diferent in the font i guess

oi[

14:38

oi

14:38

hi

14:39

that

14:41

14:41

gigachad

gigachad

2

@bencie btw I like the old pfp, reminds me of the album cover of far away trains passing by, by Ulrich Schnauss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqLoGR-INHU happy

happy

(edited)

18:24

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similar vibe =]

18:26

chill song, gigachad

gigachad

taste in music

I once showed to a good friend the tripswitch geometry album (the song I also used in the ddnet r/place video timelapse). and he said it reminded him of this one by Ulrich Schnauss. so that is how we arrive here

but yeah I think this one (and Nothing Happens In June) is absolutely amazing, one of the few songs I would consider a 9.5/10, just flawless and never gets boring

@Learath2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usRDtHjYKzU

デーモンAstari

deko - PHANTASY STAR ONLINE ft. Yameii (Official Music Video)

19:11

be like this guy

19:11

and u get a anime gf

19:15

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19:19

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19:19

best is this dude puts real code in the videos

19:19

excentric style xD

people that would rather subtract by 65 than by 'A' monkalaugh

monkalaugh

@matricks I'm already doing such good progress on my extension, I've managed to lay down a system of 3 principles (move, gravity and jump) which works dependent on direction, which means I can make an omni directional gravity and have all the velocities attach to the gravity direction. It's already at 700 lines (which 200 lines are comments for people who want to learn it) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/959168398586150962/1094834829209641000/image.png

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Cellegen

@matricks I'm already doing such good progress on my extension, I've managed to lay down a system of 3 principles (move, gravity and jump) which works dependent on direction, which means I can make an omni directional gravity and have all the velocities attach to the gravity direction. It's already at 700 lines (which 200 lines are comments for people who want to learn it) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/959168398586150962/1094834829209641000/image.png

doing some 2d jumpin' in godot?

that's the next feature I need to implement

21:17

currently I laid down the Gravity, Movement (On floor / wall / air), Running and Crouching

21:18

I'm missing jumping, walljumping, wallrunning, sliding, gliding and dash

21:18

I learned how to implement them using Unity projects which are similar to what I'm working with

Cool man!

21:19

And on that topic, I'm actually trying out some weird stuff myself

I'm listening

Not in godot or anything like that. Trying to write some super deterministic physics. Got some weird ideas I wanna try out

I expected that you don't do things in Godot

21:21

I may touch things in Godot which relies on Shader physics (might be an interesting one) (edited)

shader physics?

apply physics to materials or shader scripts which interact with the object. That utilizes the GPU instead of CPU and might be more efficient

21:23

for objects like rain or leaves on trees

21:23

or for general destructable objects, idk

not sure I follow :_)

I get it, since it needs a good presentation on what shader physics mean really

21:25

The closest example I can give you is simulations using shader scripts

21:26

where a condition happens, it runs a script for an object's shader accordingly. (for example character running through grass will make the grass move accordingly)

Ahh, that kinda stuff

Imagine if I could just slap all of the code into a shader and run it entirely through the GPU kekW

kekW

well, that has kinda been done

Nice thing about Godot is that, the shader scripts can use global variables and other scripts can access the shader script's variables too making it insanely flexible

21:33

global variables can be accessed through the root of the engine, I don't know how a shader can access that, but ok, it works (edited)

I.... I... I shouldn't have tried to open shadertoy

21:38

global is the root of all evil however

I don't know, until I try it monkalaugh

monkalaugh

how can i download that shit

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22:17

pepe_nani

22:17

i hate github

22:19

ok i got it

kek

22:20

Raw and done

Yek

Raw and done

danceclown

clown

chancho

danceclown

clown

greenthing

Existence is pain

Learath2

Existence is pain

+1

the awareness of existence is pain

22:22

existence is ok

chancho

existence is ok

No u

22:22

i like my vectors FRESH

I am so fucking drunk it's out of this world

22:39

Surrounded with friends I still feel so alone. Gf is truly special

Learath2

I am so fucking drunk it's out of this world

did u drink space beer or something

cyberFighter

did u drink space beer or something

I drank so fuxking much

Yet it wont fill the void in my heart

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