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ChillerDragon

ms > discord

hard agree

Marmare314

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6430 Add some indication why a file could not be loaded

Currently if a file fails to load the editor just acts like you never pressed the button. This was especially annoying when trying to convert a sound file to a compatible opus file.

Marmare314

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6431 fix bug when loading invalid opus file

Trying to load any invalid opus file crashes the editor.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[x] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[x] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind'...

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

115cd4c fix bug when loading invalid opus file - Marmare314 52217ad Merge #6431 - bors[bot]

08:31

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6431 fix bug when loading invalid opus file

Marmare314

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6432 check for success when decoding audio

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssan...

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

1ccd357 check for success when decoding audio - Marmare314 e5a51d5 Merge #6432 - bors[bot]

10:12

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6432 check for success when decoding audio

Marmare314

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6433 add show directory button in filedialog

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[x] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[x] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssan...

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

fe221da implement draggable layers - Marmare314 8510412 Merge #6426 - bors[bot]

11:17

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6426 [Draft] implement draggable layers

@Learath2 sometimes booting i get a kernel panic, apparently it is unable to mount the rootfs, i wonder if this is cuz the ssd is dying or some issue

11:48

would a initramfs help? xd

11:49

weird thing is it boots like 50% of times,

11:49

and when booted there are no apparent issues

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

b477173 add show directory button in filedialog - Marmare314 5e2e1e2 Merge #6433 - bors[bot]

11:50

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6422 Add button in editor file browser to open current folder in system file browser

11:50

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6433 add show directory button in filedialog closes #6422

maybe ill need to downgrade the kernel

Rip

ms > discord

microsoft has damaged the open-source initiative in long-term ways

12:15

discord is merely not open-source

12:15

I'd say microsoft is worse

❓

heinrich5991

ms > discord

microsoft has damaged the open-source initiative in long-term ways

i don’t get it

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6434 Show popups in editor when loading/saving file fails, fix minor issues with preview image

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The editor gets so much love out of the sudden

Ewan

i don’t get it

e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

Embrace, extend, and extinguish

"Embrace, extend, and extinguish" (EEE), also known as "embrace, extend, and exterminate", is a phrase that the U.S. Department of Justice found that was used internally by Microsoft to describe its strategy for entering product categories involving widely used standards, extending those standards with proprietary capabilities, and then using th...

I’m familiar

12:20

What does it have to do with OSS

please tell me what else you're familiar with, so I can avoid giving you duplicate informatio

12:20

n

I’d consider running the biggest open source platform, designing & maintaining many languages with open source specifications & implementations, and constantly increasing the amount of open source software used in their products a net positive

12:23

Don’t know how that can be interpreted as a bad thing

Microsoft changed, but they are still money b*tches

the bad thing is that this apparently forgets history, where companies (especially microsoft) used such a leverage to make things worse for open-source

Jupstar ✪

Microsoft changed, but they are still money b*tches

This is what you have to do as a business

This is what was taught to you a company had to do

I'm trying to implement a proof mode for backgrounds. Does anyone have some ideas how to get access to the CMenuBackground class (especially the positions m_aPositions) from the editor? I was thinking of maybe extending the IGameClient class.

Jupstar ✪

This is what was taught to you a company had to do

Have you noticed that the two most popular desktop OSes are both made by companies most would consider to have very scummy practices

marmare_314

I'm trying to implement a proof mode for backgrounds. Does anyone have some ideas how to get access to the CMenuBackground class (especially the positions m_aPositions) from the editor? I was thinking of maybe extending the IGameClient class.

I used the ddrace time markers as positions

12:27

And somewhere is an enum for the UI pages

heinrich5991

the bad thing is that this apparently forgets history, where companies (especially microsoft) used such a leverage to make things worse for open-source

I don’t really know what history you refer to that pertains specifically to OSS

Ewan

Have you noticed that the two most popular desktop OSes are both made by companies most would consider to have very scummy practices

Have u noticed that Linux is the biggest operating system in the world?

marmare_314

I'm trying to implement a proof mode for backgrounds. Does anyone have some ideas how to get access to the CMenuBackground class (especially the positions m_aPositions) from the editor? I was thinking of maybe extending the IGameClient class.

perhaps you could move the menu positions to some shared file, and let both the editor and the menu_background access it

Jupstar ✪

Have u noticed that Linux is the biggest operating system in the world?

There is no company behind Linux, moot point.

red hat and canonical are kinda big

12:30

linux is a kernel remember

marmare_314

I'm trying to implement a proof mode for backgrounds. Does anyone have some ideas how to get access to the CMenuBackground class (especially the positions m_aPositions) from the editor? I was thinking of maybe extending the IGameClient class.

We generally try to avoid accessing the client components from the editor. But this is already done once in the editor to access the camera position. You can use the kernel to get a pointer to the gameclient and then get whatever component you need. See CEditor::LoadCurrentMap implementation. If you find a better way that would be preferable.

It’s the largest because the footprint & power for particular tasks on most distributions are obvious pluses for the enterprise world

Ewan

I don’t really know what history you refer to that pertains specifically to OSS

e.g. the one where outlook (still!) very badly supports open protocols

many many companies benefit using linux, specially SaaS and cloud providers

12:31

aws

Ewan

It’s the largest because the footprint & power for particular tasks on most distributions are obvious pluses for the enterprise world

Where the average user (i.e. the vast majority of the cashflow) has no need for such things

Robyt3

We generally try to avoid accessing the client components from the editor. But this is already done once in the editor to access the camera position. You can use the kernel to get a pointer to the gameclient and then get whatever component you need. See CEditor::LoadCurrentMap implementation. If you find a better way that would be preferable.

Then @heinrich5991s suggestion is probably the best.

Jupstar ✪

I used the ddrace time markers as positions

What time markers?

Ewan

There is no company behind Linux, moot point.

Linux foundation is kinda

ms is worse than discord, extend embrace extinguish is real, they also spread FEAR for things that are competition, such as saying opengl was trash and thus fear mongering it wasnt supported on vists, which led to the rise of trash directx

12:33

vista*

marmare_314

What time markers?

The checkpoints for time

Jupstar ✪

Linux foundation is kinda

I dunno how they are called

12:33

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Ryozuki

@Learath2 sometimes booting i get a kernel panic, apparently it is unable to mount the rootfs, i wonder if this is cuz the ssd is dying or some issue

Does the table printed above include the correct drive?

I love Linux but its success is not due to the actions of any particular company. This is unrelated anyway because my message was related to how businesses grow, not how there is a successful product without the ownership of any one company

12:34

It was kind of far fetched to bring up

Learath2

Does the table printed above include the correct drive?

ill need to check, i wont be home for 2 days sadly xd

Ryozuki

ms is worse than discord, extend embrace extinguish is real, they also spread FEAR for things that are competition, such as saying opengl was trash and thus fear mongering it wasnt supported on vists, which led to the rise of trash directx

http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX

Why you should use OpenGL and not DirectX - Wolfire Games Blog

Often, when we meet other game developers and say that we use OpenGL for our game Overgrowth, we're met with stares of disbelief -- why would anyone use OpenGL? DirectX is the future. When we tell graphics card representatives that we use OpenGL, the temperature of the room drops by ...

12:35

related read

I think u have a bad understanding of companies. Basically ddnet org can be considered a company too. U think too much from a capitalism standpoint

(2010 context)

"Companies take various forms, such as: voluntary associations, which may include nonprofit organizations business entities, whose aim is generating profit financial entities and banks programs or educational institutions"

12:36

Wikipedia

business can exist and grow without being predatory

Learath2

Does the table printed above include the correct drive?

i think yes

12:37

the uuid never changed right

12:37

i have fstab by uuid

You’re right, I’m using the words company and business interchangeably. But that means nothing. Because Microsoft is a business and everyone in the conversation knows that their motives are different from the Linux Foundation’s

changes*

Ryozuki

the uuid never changed right

Yes it's a part of the filesystem header

Ryozuki

business can exist and grow without being predatory

As long as it's privately owned, sure

My claim only was that u don't need generating/ maximizing money as motivational source to create things

Microsoft does

12:39

It is a publicly traded company

Yes and that can come with a risk

12:39

E.g. if they see open source as the enemy

12:39

Rn it seems Microsoft changed their position at least partially

oddly it started happening when i got 6.2

12:40

maybe i should stick to 6.1 which is next lts now

And that didn't mean this will always be the case

They have already “proprietated” open source as much as they ever will

12:40

And nobody is really paying the price

them owning github is so so dangerous

Ryozuki

oddly it started happening when i got 6.2

Oh did 6.2 get stabilized?

which is why i also self host

12:41

git

Ryozuki

them owning github is so so dangerous

What can they do to it that would damage open source without harming themselves tenfold?

Learath2

Oh did 6.2 get stabilized?

idk gentoo has it

Ewan

What can they do to it that would damage open source without harming themselves tenfold?

they can excert influence

Ewan

They have already “proprietated” open source as much as they ever will

Anyway just to be clear I am on noones side in this discussion. The people working at Microsoft are good devs. I enjoy stuff like vs code. Tho this trend is rather new in Microsoft business history

Ryozuki

idk gentoo has it

If you didn't unmask gentoo sources that means it is stabilized

Jupstar ✪

Anyway just to be clear I am on noones side in this discussion. The people working at Microsoft are good devs. I enjoy stuff like vs code. Tho this trend is rather new in Microsoft business history

Agreed

Ryozuki

they can excert influence

I don’t really know what you mean

12:43

Encourage other businesses to do better? Cool

12:43

Self hosted git services are better than ever

i wouldnt mind m$$ minding their business if their strategy wasnt to entice devs to do win only stuff, like games (edited)

12:43

then i wouldnt care less

@Ryozuki can you check your kernel cmdline?

Sorry I really don’t know what you mean

When you get back. Because rootfs is mounted by using that if you dont have an initramfs

Learath2

@Ryozuki can you check your kernel cmdline?

it had nothing, then i tried to add rootdelay=3 and nothing

12:44

ill check when im back

12:44

lucky i have a boot usb

Ok then idk how your computer even works 50% of the time

it seems it doesnt now

12:45

i tried 4 times before i had to go

12:45

and all panics

maybe obvious, have you tried a chroot system upgrade

Ryozuki

it seems it doesnt now

No initramfs = you have to have root=UUID=<insertrootuuidhere>

there is no upgrade here xd

In the cmdline that is

oh rly

12:45

xd

12:45

ill check when im back

Yeah, maybe grub choked while generating the config and you missed it? Happens to me when I do system upgrades sometimes I miss errors

it’s very easy for something to break upstream & you not notice until the upgrade completes

i didnt see any error

12:47

i have my own script that compiles the kernel, installs and then recompiles nvidia drivers

12:47

and then grub

you use nouveau?

no

12:47

hence why recompile

12:47

do u even use gentoo

do u even lift bro

sometimes