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Between 2023-03-12 00:00:00Z and 2023-03-13 00:00:00Z
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poggers
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POGGERS
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there you go
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just took a while (edited)
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yeah, only took 1 hour and a half
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😎
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it was your prompt Devinci
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@Voxel doesnt even look like a ddnet map
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10% ETA: 02:48
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f
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to copy paste a seeded image
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it was your prompt Devinci
how was it me if yours crashed 3 times
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😔
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anyways unlucky
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nah don't confuse the crash
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Eh, idk, kinda seems broken @default it generates to the very last step, then it just disappears and I get a missing image instead
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cyberFighter
@Voxel doesnt even look like a ddnet map
did u make the mapres
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with your pastel blurred image
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Voxel
did u make the mapres
yeah
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just a simple prompt, no hires, no controlnet
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See? Learath is also havcing troubles
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Learath2
Eh, idk, kinda seems broken @default it generates to the very last step, then it just disappears and I get a missing image instead
it needed a while for Devinci to load their image, if you have a missing file icon (edited)
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actually really good!
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Devinci
See? Learath is also havcing troubles
he is causing them
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the only mapres i didnt make is the freeze (which is easy lol) and the uh gradient
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I mean, there's 1 common thing between me and learath.. we are both using your instance... troll
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Voxel
actually really good!
thaanks! epic thankers
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he is causing them
I've literally not touched controlnet after I said I won't touch it anymore fwiw
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yea but idk
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wait what if mod type 'cock' can i see this?
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justatest
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i wanna make tons of decor/doodads for it too
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yea but idk
Loading model: t2iadapter_openpose-fp16 [4286314e] Loaded state_dict from [E:\Kohya\stable-diffusion-webui-master\extensions\sd-webui-controlnet\models\t2iadapter_openpose-fp16.safetensors] Error running process: E:\Kohya\stable-diffusion-webui-master\extensions\sd-webui-controlnet\scripts\controlnet.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\Kohya\stable-diffusion-webui-master\modules\scripts.py", line 386, in process script.process(p, *script_args) File "E:\Kohya\stable-diffusion-webui-master\extensions\sd-webui-controlnet\scripts\controlnet.py", line 614, in process else self.build_control_model(p, unet, model, lowvram) File "E:\Kohya\stable-diffusion-webui-master\extensions\sd-webui-controlnet\scripts\controlnet.py", line 478, in build_control_model network = network_module( File "E:\Kohya\stable-diffusion-webui-master\extensions\sd-webui-controlnet\scripts\adapter.py", line 64, in __init__ self.control_model = Adapter(**config.model.params) TypeError: Adapter.__init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'linear_start'
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omg i got a result
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someone did run controlnet
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I don't blame you
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i think i know ryos type
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ryozuki kind of the prodigy of ai generated waifus
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Ryozuki
omg i got a result
is her clothes ripped?? wtf
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the gpu is focusing on getting ryozukis waifus generated
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seems like that
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well, I'm gonna try for myself one good and nice prompt. What can go wrong 😎
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try to generate something using a random seed Devinci
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louis
i think i know ryos type
i think i know too but its like, probably very mean so
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same prompt
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wdym? a seeded image?
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ok
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-1 I guiess then
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or the button next to it
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yy, the button puts it to -1
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the cabinet guy is back
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with his hyperdimensional house
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when you get an image you like you can take the seed below the image, and use that to mess around with it
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something strange is that the "queue" message disappears even tho the image may be still loading?
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Pray pls be done
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Devinci
something strange is that the "queue" message disappears even tho the image may be still loading?
weird stuff happening
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Ryozuki
Pray pls be done
You've finally cracked the code
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Ryozuki
Pray pls be done
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not bad, I would do the house 95% smoller and the waifu 9000% bigger
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ohh thanks
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it didnt show up on my web
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my internet connection might be dying
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Click to see attachment 🖼️
what if she uses windows greenthing
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-StormAx
AMAZINGGGG
its my fav
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It's working again Celebrate
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Voxel
what if she uses windows greenthing
doesnt matter
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when making an ai that can make 2d generated waifusinto 3d? troll
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cuz she a waifu
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Learath2
It's working again Celebrate
wtf is that emote
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works I guess? @Devinci
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not for me lol
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learath that is out of character for you (edited)
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wasn't that yours?
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maybe idk
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yea go to sleep
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Devinci
not for me lol
I'm not allowed to celebrate?
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but if that's the case I can't see it xD
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@louis btw how long does a map have to be
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Learath2
I'm not allowed to celebrate?
ninja
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yea go to sleep
xDDDD
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like dummy map or qhatever
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cyberFighter
@louis btw how long does a map have to be
50 minutes
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EXACTLY!
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Devinci
xDDDD
we will get another cat for albert to play with today, so pretty tired to fix issues rn (edited)
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im thinking of making the map like
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6 mins
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or something
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that's fine
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holy
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Ryozuki
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booba
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GAWT DAMN
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its funny because I see it in realtime
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we will get another cat for albert to play with today, so pretty tired to fix issues rn (edited)
kinda same 😄 Cuase I'm not doing any thing that strange anyways so idk
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and am predicting if you post it into here or if it stays our secret (edited)
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Hm, when does it get too lewd I wonder
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and am predicting if you post it into here or if it stays our secret (edited)
kek
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Learath2
Hm, when does it get too lewd I wonder
too much skin I guess
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it doesn't go for anything else
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if majority of the image is skin -> flag
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does this do hentai
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that's why you can screenshot it with the border
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and it still uploads
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too much skin I guess
more as in when should I stop this ai waifu generation night
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Ryozuki
Click to see attachment 🖼️
nobot nobot nobot nobot nobot
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Learath2
more as in when should I stop this ai waifu generation night
oh. I can keep it running for the next 10 hours. if you don't need it anymore. I would shut it down earlier though. (edited)
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@Learath2 wait what ur doing on this server lul?? https://i.imgur.com/G6NIWgE.png
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-StormAx
@Learath2 wait what ur doing on this server lul?? https://i.imgur.com/G6NIWgE.png
I'm on a lot of teeworlds related servers just to keep an eye on people
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NO FUCKING WAY a human is in a server with other people?????
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Holy shit
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exposed
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im posting this on youtube easy 100k views
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@Learath2 im watching so many block clans
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I have so many I can't fit on a single screenshot
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-StormAx
@Learath2 im watching so many block clans
ur not in my clan
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i win
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troll
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its broken
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talk about low budget flights... no food or movies? i'm outta here!
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this is true peak of humanity, advanced maths to get waifus
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truly the end game
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@furo maybe your house looks better in a specific style
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like studio ghibli
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Ryozuki
this is true peak of humanity, advanced maths to get waifus
society is fucked
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kid named society:
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@furo maybe your house looks better in a specific style
There's styles? how do i change?
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hotcoffee
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Oh wow, now we are talking
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furo
There's styles? how do i change?
In case of Studio Ghibli you would want to add <lora:studioGhibliStyle_offset:0.6> for example
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where whatever comes after the first : is the file name in the screenshot
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Voxel
society is fucked
why so mad? be happy
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whatever comes after the seconds : is the weigth
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@default I managed to generate something 😎
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Learath2
why so mad? be happy
says you
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So proud of me
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Devinci
@default I managed to generate something 😎
cool
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In case of Studio Ghibli you would want to add <lora:studioGhibliStyle_offset:0.6> for example
I put that in my prompt or the "styles" section?
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in the prompt
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@Ryozuki btw about MiA, who`s ur fav character?
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didn't manage to make styles dropdown work (edited)
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-StormAx
@Ryozuki btw about MiA, who`s ur fav character?
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Voxel
says you
you do have a point there
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eyo that one with the captain hat looks good
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but I mean the one before your last one ryo
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not that one
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the one with the huge milk packages
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I didn't get like the last 2 batches of mine, idk so weird that the webui is kinda glitching at the very last part
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the one with the huge milk packages
i cant see it
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the web ui is funky
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show me
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sometimes it doesnt show images
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discord blocks me wait
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let me be creative
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The first generation after refreshing the page sorta kinda works
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that one
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sometimes you just need to wait for it to load. even tho nothing seems to happen
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@default u probs can send it without purple
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nah I can't
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Wait discord actually has a filter for that?
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can u give me that image in dm
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for research purposes
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she is not naked or anything
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just too much skin
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and something that looks like female parts
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it does fabric material so good (edited)
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I always spend way too much time messing around with ai, it's 1 am again :/
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i think this is not meant to be used by multiple ppl at once
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tomorrow ill see to have my own setup
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waifu factory
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legs feel wrong
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thats nice
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weird legs
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lmao
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yeah... if only she wasn't a tripod
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Ryozuki
waifu factory
finally the means of production is in our hands
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@default is it that hard to setup? not even talking about the server, but maybe a local instance?
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its not really a server
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its the same console application you would otherwise run
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but with the addition of the --share console parameter (edited)
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It also keeps the model loaded I presume unlike the script that is shipped with stable-diffusion
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ryo I got something good for you
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charturner
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for what
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This is so unfair, it won't hires my last generation so I can't sleep
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also Oomphf
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then you can do this stuff
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omg
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f
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well ill go sleep
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try to add <lora:charturnerbetaLora_charturnbetalora:0.8>, charturnerv2For1_5, multiple views of the same character in the same outfit, to the prompt
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i want to see what would happen
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it does something
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XD
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yea wait
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ah nvm I thought it still upscaled it
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also you don't have to send me the images, I see them in realtime inside the folder
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looks like the quality goes down a lot
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try to set it lower maybe
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not 0.8
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eeeh, I gave it a try in img2img but it wasn't even close to being the same character aside from the hair maybe
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not bad
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Learath2
eeeh, I gave it a try in img2img but it wasn't even close to being the same character aside from the hair maybe
I have to read into this stuff more
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I don't know how to install the non-lora things
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CharTurner Edit: controlNet works great with this. Charturner keeps the outfit consistent, controlNet openPose keeps the turns under control. Three...
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try again, I figured it out
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21charturnerv2 has to be in the prompt
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nah whoever made the bed thing, it didn't work
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ye idk how this works, it's time for sleep 😄
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Thanks for hosting the instance @default was fun messing around with it again after so long 😄
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well, I'm also leaving. thanks for opening it tho, and sry for going into strange, nonsensical issues 😄
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You're welcome bluekitty
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rotation somewhat works
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forah or what your name was, you crashed it, it restarted itself this time: https://2da0df66-65cc-447e.gradio.live
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I did? Sorry in that case :D
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Error completing request Arguments: ('{"prompt": "girl sitting in boat, forest, mountains, at sea", "all_prompts": ["girl sitting in boat, forest, mountains, at sea"], "negative_prompt": "lowres, text, error, cropped, worst quality, low quality, jpeg artifacts, ugly, duplicate, morbid, mutilated, out of frame, extra fingers, mutated hands, poorly drawn hands, poorly drawn face, mutation, deformed, blurry, dehydrated, bad anatomy, bad proportions, extra limbs, cloned face, disfigured, gross proportions, malformed limbs, missing arms, missing legs, extra arms, extra legs, fused fingers, too many fingers, long neck, username, watermark, signature, boat on land", "all_negative_prompts": ["lowres, text, error, cropped, worst quality, low quality, jpeg artifacts, ugly, duplicate, morbid, mutilated, out of frame, extra fingers, mutated hands, poorly drawn hands, poorly drawn face, mutation, deformed, blurry, dehydrated, bad anatomy, bad proportions, extra limbs, cloned face, disfigured, gross proportions, malformed limbs, missing arms, missing legs, extra arms, extra legs, fused fingers, too many fingers, long neck, username, watermark, signature, boat on land"], "seed": 4096835131, "all_seeds": [4096835131], "subseed": 2409594540, "all_subseeds": [2409594540], "subseed_strength": 0, "width": 1280, "height": 720, "sampler_name": "Euler a", "cfg_scale": 7, "steps": 40, "batch_size": 1, "restore_faces": false, "face_restoration_model": null, "sd_model_hash": "5493a0ec49", "seed_resize_from_w": 0, "seed_resize_from_h": 0, "denoising_strength": null, "extra_generation_params": {}, "index_of_first_image": 0, "infotexts": ["girl sitting in boat, forest, mountains, at sea\\nNegative prompt: lowres, text, error, cropped, worst quality, low quality, jpeg artifacts, ugly, duplicate, morbid, mutilated, out of frame, extra fingers, mutated hands, poorly drawn hands, poorly drawn face, mutation, deformed, blurry, dehydrated, bad anatomy, bad proportions, extra limbs, cloned face, disfigured, gross proportions, malformed limbs, missing arms, missing legs, extra arms, extra legs, fused fingers, too many fingers, long neck, username, watermark, signature, boat on land\\nSteps: 40, Sampler: Euler a, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 4096835131, Size: 1280x720, Model hash: 5493a0ec49, Model: abyssorangemix3AOM3_aom3a1b"], "styles": [], "job_timestamp": "20230312014732", "clip_skip": 1, "is_using_inpainting_conditioning": false}', [{'name': 'E:\\Kohya\\stable-diffusion-webui-master\\outputs\\txt2img-images\\2023-03-12\\00208-4096835131.png', 'data': 'file=E:\\Kohya\\stable-diffusion-webui-master\\outputs\\txt2img-images\\2023-03-12\\00208-4096835131.png', 'is_file': True}], True, 0) {} Traceback (most recent call last): File "E:\Kohya\stable-diffusion-webui-master\modules\call_queue.py", line 56, in f res = list(func(*args, **kwargs)) File "E:\Kohya\stable-diffusion-webui-master\modules\ui_common.py", line 61, in save_files with open(os.path.join(shared.opts.outdir_save, "log.csv"), "a", encoding="utf8", newline='') as file: PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 'log/images\\log.csv'
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all good
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it runs in its own thread or something like that. so whenever a request crashes, the webui itself doesn't crash
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Last generation for today. Might start the webui again later today. ((high quality)), ((masterpiece)), 8k, 1girl, ((white_hair)), (((Majo no Tabitabi))), ((((elaina)))), black hat, (((golden medal hangs from the top of the hat))), black clothes, ((take the straight black magic wand without any decoration)), gold jk bow tie, white background, view from behind the character Negative prompt: nsfw, (worst quality:1.4), EasyNegative, bad_prompt_version2 bad Architecture lowres bad anatomy bad hands text error missing fingers extra digit fewer digits cropped worst quality low quality normal quality jpeg artifacts signature watermark username blurry Steps: 60, Sampler: DPM++ 2M Karras, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 3620795854, Size: 512x368, Model hash: a074b8864e, Model: CounterfeitV25_25, Denoising strength: 0.7, Hires upscale: 2.1, Hires upscaler: Latent
  • Added 2 new models to it. Selectable in the top left.
--- Counterfeit --- Meina (esspecially for people like Devinci that only type a hand full of words into the prompt. the less you limit it in the prompt, the better the results.)
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@Learath2 i got my own factory
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i think this runs way way faster on linux
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i get my results nearly instant xd
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justatest
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i might get addicted
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is this some AI?
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stabledifusion
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with anime models xd
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Jupstar ✪
is this some AI?
Stable Diffusion web UI. Contribute to AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui development by creating an account on GitHub.
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ez
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Ryozuki
i might get addicted
>might
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finally got the intended use for my 3080
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its 5 am and i really need some sleep
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but i cant
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Finally a reason to update my gpu
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@Voxel sleep like the anime girl
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Ryozuki
@Voxel sleep like the anime girl
i hate her
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does she not know what pajamas are
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that looks uncomfy to sleep in
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anyways when are we going to get more actually useful ai tools
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like, something we physically cant do ourselves like audio stem splitters (edited)
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im rly interested in the voice ones
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if optimized, it would allow to make games with infinite npcs, and those could have voice
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its another game
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oh yeah those are kinda fun
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tbh i just hate the "THIS WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE 47853% EASIER" and autogen art ais
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they've become so overbloated to the point of having no value
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u should come to terms with it
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cuz it will stay xd
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but yeah
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its odd
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but at the same time
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amazing
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if you think about it from a tech point of view
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Ryozuki
cuz it will stay xd
not if i can just.. do it myself
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Ryozuki
if you think about it from a tech point of view
i guess, but now everyone is doing it. so its kinda.. not as impressive
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well its the boom
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even discord's implimenting it (there is no reason to besides trying to be noticed by executives)
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thonk
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this is my first all nighter since forever
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it sucks
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liar
10:38
ur offline
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cyberFighter
ur offline
hi
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i was watchimh youtube
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Voxel
hi
yo
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while u were awake i slept
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fantastic
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i wasted my morning generating images
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back to gaming
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MonkaGiga
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Ryozuki
i wasted my morning generating images
krill issue
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(^ wasted their night comtemplating life)
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Ryozuki
@Learath2 i got my own factory
Now just need tie it to chatgpt
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ai can make child porn
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business is gonna be boomin
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Blade
ai can make child porn
your mind is in some weird places
this 2
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Voxel
this is my first all nighter since forever
not sleeping sucks
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the longer you watch YouTube the more you realize that you are pointlessly wasting your time as you start thinking about what you are watching
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it's an extremely weird addiction if you are addicted, especially because it just isn't really satisfying
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just like smoking
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so much recycled content trapping you
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Sphynx
your mind is in some weird places
everyone's like ooo ai so good, but it's gonna fuck up this world also mate
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well, if you use it for such questionable things
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Blade
everyone's like ooo ai so good, but it's gonna fuck up this world also mate
Everything good will also be used for bad, it has always been like it
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Iza
Everything good will also be used for bad, it has always been like it
Fair point
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nuclear energy
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for example
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or a knife
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anything can be used badly
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just imagine how much money we would have if we didn't need to spend it on security, but that's just the harmony of life
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Is AI censored at all? Like can you ask it how to make a bomb or something like that, who censores it and what stops it from giving out dangerous information
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There could be darknet AI where u can ask it to calculate some fucked up shit xd
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even without AI bad people would still try hard to make bombs
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Yeah but it will be so much easier to just ask mr.chatgpd, so much more accessible
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once they find it out, the process is in their brain, it'll be just as easy
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my point is, if someone is motivated to commit a crime, they'll try a lot
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the most dangerous thing though will be AI voice and deepfakes being used to accuse someone of things they never did and get something that looks real in court
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and i don't that only good people work on improving AI
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Blade
Is AI censored at all? Like can you ask it how to make a bomb or something like that, who censores it and what stops it from giving out dangerous information
Well, that's the whole point of fine-tuning. Trying to avoid fase information / dangerous ones. Sadly it can also be used to make the ai not as eutral as it should...
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its like programming
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can be used for good and bad
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we shouldnt stop progress cuz evil doers
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Blade
Is AI censored at all? Like can you ask it how to make a bomb or something like that, who censores it and what stops it from giving out dangerous information
They try to censor it but it's futile, you cant control something so general purpose
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Stable Diffusion 2.1 sanitized the dataset a bit, so it can't generate as much degeneracy, but it also made the normal generations worse
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@Learath2 how far u think we can get by training a model with the 600 tee skins we have
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xd
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Ooh, that's a great idea
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they are same format
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i wonder how to specify it to not get out of format
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xd
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Dreambooth and lora doesn't even need much data, let's try finetuning sd2.1 or 1.5
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i think there was a train tab
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im gonna check
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Ryozuki
i wonder how to specify it to not get out of format
Honeslty idk if we even have to do anything, it might just figure it out on its own, otherwise we need to split into parts then merge at the end
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booting back on my gentoo waifu generator distro
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Also need to get rid of the alpha I think
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Turn all (r,g,b,0) into (0,1,0) and we can revert it after
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Sphynx
the longer you watch YouTube the more you realize that you are pointlessly wasting your time as you start thinking about what you are watching
half of it was youtube the other half was just pure depression
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Voxel
half of it was youtube the other half was just pure depression
so you could say that half was the cause and half was the effect
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dude my life isnt one dimensional
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id rather not explain my depression
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but distractions only exacerbate it
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at least they help to cope somewhat
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that makes sense
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Voxel
id rather not explain my depression
my depression is there being a complete discrepancy between what i think and what i do
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yeah i have unhealthy case of escapism
12:49
its like rebirth without dying
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Sphynx
my depression is there being a complete discrepancy between what i think and what i do
and me been almost naturally even so easy to distract, that doesn't really help at all
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im interested in so many things, but looking at what i do, my actual interests seem to pale
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I think that sums it up, being able so easily explain it, yet so unable to prevent, that's the worst thing ever
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Ryozuki
i wonder how to specify it to not get out of format
Train it using lora
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@Learath2 the preprocessing tool does it
12:55
the alpha
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is that the bitch from wednesday
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but that is only an example
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Voxel with the spicy language again
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you will just feed it with teeworld skins (or fanart) (edited)
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Sphynx
im interested in so many things, but looking at what i do, my actual interests seem to pale
yeah true i love graphic design and shit but literally no one knows me for it
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guys i made a game
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not a virus
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@Learath2
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virus download
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Better safe than sorry 😛
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poor pilonpl tho
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you can trust me
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no i cant
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also vms exist
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cant some programs in vms leak into your actual pc
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you can escape vm's, yes
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i am not so smart to do something like that lol
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but those methods aren't public
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or if they are public, they have been patched
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code would look something like this: while in a vm { escape() } which is hilarious to have implemented. but some people run vms in vms.
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i just wanted to share my game
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then make it open source
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and people would try it out
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pilonpl
i just wanted to share my game
Mhhh, I guess you've been around long enough that it's unlikely to be a virus
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ok lemme ask something
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and that's when they will catch you slacking (edited)
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Doubt anyone here will run it though 😄 We are much too paranoid
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pilonpl
i just wanted to share my game
how did you make the game? coding language or an engine?
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Voxel
how did you make the game? coding language or an engine?
Raylib lol
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And c
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And a lot of stuff I don't understand
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stack overflow?
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C seems like a nice language
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Ok, you can post it. No one that praises C could be a bad actor
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learath if anyone gets their discord token stolen you're the blame (edited)
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Voxel
learath if anyone gets their discord token stolen you're the blame (edited)
No, you are responsible for what you run on your computer, not me
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just run it
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mf it's your job to moderate shit here
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i can share the code
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the one c file written by me lol
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scary
monkalaugh 2
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that mf earing 💀
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@Learath2
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Ryozuki
@Learath2
Weak. Ladies don't ask me anything so I can keep all my PII safe coolcry
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Learath2
Weak. Ladies don't ask me anything so I can keep all my PII safe coolcry
same
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My friend doesn't want to run my game either lol
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Btw, why is it so hard to use a library in C lol
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pilonpl
My friend doesn't want to run my game either lol
i wonder why
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damn, i thought you were always up to date @Ryozuki
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24h late, you're not yourself lately
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Voxel
dude my life isnt one dimensional
2d?
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the ai got to him
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cyberFighter
2d?
at least 2d
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is it the AI or his attraction to loli girls ? tee_thinking (edited)
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Okay!
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@Voxel btw how long hae u been playing
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ddnet
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maybe like 3 years?
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Chairn
is it the AI or his attraction to loli girls ? tee_thinking (edited)
fuckyousnail
painpeko 1
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yesteday was winter, and now its fucking summer
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crazy temps
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wtf is this emo :fuckyousnail?
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private server
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xd
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snail is in it
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@snail you got hate fan club apparently
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Special server where they hate on snail and he enjoys it
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hisnail there is also this (edited)
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@snail tell em
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WhenDildoTooBig
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dont check the emoji name
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justatest
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Learath2
Special server where they hate on snail and he enjoys it
dont shame my kinks brownbear
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Ryozuki
dont check the emoji name
his nail
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every kink deserves to be shamed (edited)
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Voxel
Click to see attachment 🖼️
normal mat vs cursed mat
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Voxel
every kink deserves to be shamed (edited)
degrading
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louis
degrading
it took me a solid minute to figure out what you meant by this
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@M1H40S please don't spam it in showroom
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ReD
@M1H40S please don't spam it in showroom
not spamming, i just sent it two times S2, but np i will give it more time to post again
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@Learath2
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i found this on reddit
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Ryozuki
@Learath2
Soon(tm)
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RAHH AMERICA!! 🦅 🦅
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pilonpl
Click to see attachment 🖼️
never use raylib
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worst mistake of my life
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its simple to set up
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now i am making conways game of life in C
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:07:20Z
Why c when c++ is there
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because
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C is og
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and its easier
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i mean
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there is less stuff i suppose
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:10:55Z
Do you need to write some code for a microcontoller or sth like that?
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If no c is worse than ++
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i need to write code 4fun
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:11:30Z
C++ is more comfortable definitely
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probably yes
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:11:46Z
Like u don't even have std::string in c
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I can't imagine using c outside of ultralow level stuff
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char string[] = "string";
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
If no c is worse than ++
с++ > c
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
I can't imagine using c outside of ultralow level stuff
who cares, its useful to know this language i think
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
Like u don't even have std::string in c
there's enough functions in stdlib
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pilonpl
char string[] = "string";
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:13:04Z
Now get index of 'n' in that string
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
C++ is more comfortable definitely
c++ is monstrous
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
I can't imagine using c outside of ultralow level stuff
I can, C is hot
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c++ как поле экспериментов (edited)
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:13:34Z
Even c++ is kinda outdated at this point
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
Now get index of 'n' in that string
you can do that with a for loop
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pilonpl
you can do that with a for loop
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:13:54Z
In ++ it's one function
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даже ебать комитет плюсов не знает будущее плюсов
19:14
они язык заруинили уже
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at least i dont program in assembly
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2020 стандарт показал
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
Now get index of 'n' in that string
strcspn(string, "n") (edited)
cool 1
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а уже 23 на подходе
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c++ is object oriented, C isnt
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c++ is whatever oriented
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you can write in any paradigm you want
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i can write in C
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C is nice
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very simplistic
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
Even c++ is kinda outdated at this point
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:15:54Z
I would prefer c# or java (depends on the project) over c/c++ for literally anything that doesn't need fast af calculations
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
I would prefer c# or java (depends on the project) over c/c++ for literally anything that doesn't need fast af calculations
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:16:16Z
Damn took me a lot of time to write that cuz beer 😭
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Rust best non C language
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rust is literally c superior
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:17:07Z
Even though c++ isn't a really modern language, you can still find any job in it
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I don't think you could in c
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legacy projects written in c: hello (edited)
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Learath2
Rust best non C language
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:18:08Z
I won't say anything bout rust cuz I'm afraid of starting a negative conversation
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Say things about rust rn
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:18:31Z
Okay
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I don't like it
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@Ryozuki lookAtThisDude
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:18:42Z
Cuz no oop
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That's all
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I know that oop isn't the only and the best way
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Oh noes an OOP enjoyer, I don't think we could ever agree on anything 😄
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:19:53Z
Oop is fun to me and all my friends use it so I don't see a problem with it
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Learath2
Oh noes an OOP enjoyer, I don't think we could ever agree on anything 😄
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:20:23Z
Btw that's what I was talking about, I don't wanna conflict...
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That is half the fun of being a programmer, arguing about subjective things like it's a matter of life and death
19:21
The editor wars is my favourite
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now i am trying to get the number of neighbours
19:31
its actually quite complicated
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Learath2
Oh noes an OOP enjoyer, I don't think we could ever agree on anything 😄
why do i always feel like only less experienced devs like oop, not to brag tho xd
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Ryozuki
why do i always feel like only less experienced devs like oop, not to brag tho xd
because oop feels closer to real life
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oop is weird because you could always subdivide an object into smaller objects
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Ryozuki
why do i always feel like only less experienced devs like oop, not to brag tho xd
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:44:52Z
Well definitely I personally am less experienced than you
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OOP was invented by retained mode GUI programmers companies
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:45:21Z
But I've a friend who works at big corporation and they do use only oop
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i mean u probs mean java
19:45
sure with java ur forced
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but its cuz corporate likes java
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:46:25Z
No, they use c++
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thats worse
19:47
you have oop, and the ub and complexity that comes with it
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
Cuz no oop
oop sucks tho
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rust traits are way better
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 19:49:16Z
Actually I'd call their oop very alcoholic and chaotic
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But still
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To me it looks better than rust codestyle
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i disagree
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hard
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rust type system, the traits, trait bounds, etc allow you to model data really well, and be extremely perfomant about it
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Polymorphism To many people, polymorphism is synonymous with inheritance. But it’s actually a more general concept that refers to code that can work with data of multiple types. For inheritance, those types are generally subclasses. Rust instead uses generics to abstract over different possible types and trait bounds to impose constraints on what those types must provide. This is sometimes called bounded parametric polymorphism.
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Inheritance has recently fallen out of favor as a programming design solution in many programming languages because it’s often at risk of sharing more code than necessary. Subclasses shouldn’t always share all characteristics of their parent class but will do so with inheritance. This can make a program’s design less flexible. It also introduces the possibility of calling methods on subclasses that don’t make sense or that cause errors because the methods don’t apply to the subclass. In addition, some languages will only allow single inheritance (meaning a subclass can only inherit from one class), further restricting the flexibility of a program’s design.
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For these reasons, Rust takes the different approach of using trait objects instead of inheritance. Let’s look at how trait objects enable polymorphism in Rust.
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The space ship "Leviathan" was once the arena for a cruel battle of survival. The only hope: a cryogenic chamber - but there's only room for one person
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looks like I'm late, Rustozooki killed the channel justatest
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I dislike oop because people on YouTube told me to do so
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oop is a great recipe for spaghetti
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i eat spaghetti with tomato sauce
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Me too
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So if c, c++ and rust are all bad langueges, what is an actually good and modern language?
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Or maybe all languages are bad
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why are they bad?
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i'd say rust has more potential than c++, but it feels like some libs aren't really done yet. and maybe some QOL stuff that annoys while coding
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pilonpl
So if c, c++ and rust are all bad langueges, what is an actually good and modern language?
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:10:01Z
They aren't bad, they're situational
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And with different levels of need in the industry
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c++ has no memory safety etc. but has a very stable ecosystem. and c is really ez to implement
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:11:12Z
The best language to me is c# but it has some problems cuz it needs .net
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So mostly I use c++
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ddnet is written in c++
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:12:45Z
I'd call it "old c++"
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copium excuse
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its valid cpp
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why even old c++ xd
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c# sucks bcs GC
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and m$$
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:13:33Z
Cuz tw started in ancient times so nowadays the standards aren't actual
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
I'd call it "old c++"
C but without the annoyances of using C
20:13
c++ is rly different
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c++ is unpleasant, C is weirdly simple
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ddnet mixes modern and old c++
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but a footgun
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well both are
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i think c++ still has the best template/generic language
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by far
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Ryozuki
c++ is unpleasant, C is weirdly simple
Exactly, there are no useless features
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Jupstar ✪
i think c++ still has the best template/generic language
i hear writing a proper c++ header parser is gods work
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probably ^^
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pilonpl
Exactly, there are no useless features
lol on the opposite, it lacks so much u keep reinventing the wheel cuz using deps sucks there
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Ryozuki
i hear writing a proper c++ header parser is gods work
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:16:01Z
Do you need to?
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there are many reasons on why parsing easily headers makes life better for lot of ppl
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lsp servers, codegen etc
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headers suck
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very rarely they can be useful
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also rust has bettere design
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with the fn keyword for functions
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but generally they are annoying
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you can grep for functions easily
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for example
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on c++ there is no good way
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oh shit ryoz is talking about rust again
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he never stopped
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tomorrow ill make Rust-Chan with the AI
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what is grep
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and my new pfp here
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parse
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Ryozuki
tomorrow ill make Rust-Chan with the AI
you are not human
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who is
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yall just bytes that i receive
20:18
kek
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lemme out..
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Bytes? What about electrical signals
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Voxel
lemme out..
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What do you guys think about V?
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22nd letter of the alphabet
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pilonpl
What do you guys think about V?
buzz
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:24:31Z
What's v
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A programming language of course
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:26:09Z
I figured that out but what is special about it
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it has the letter v in the name
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:27:21Z
DAMN IM.GONNA USE IT
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
I figured that out but what is special about it
Nothing i think
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At least not yet
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-03-12 20:28:54Z
Why does it exisr then
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I guess "autofree engine" is quite original
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But it doesn't exist yet i think
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it had smth especial
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but it was not true at the end iirc
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i forgot
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their main claim is they compile super fast iirc
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The Gleam programming language
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i need to learn this someday
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if i dont forget
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its a rusty erlang
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@Ryozuki started reading kingdom at start of my trip to cracow, currently 2/3 in
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Might give leviathqn a shot after
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its a short thriller
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gore
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space
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Btw it's so funny that you can write a C compiler in C
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You can make a better compiler and compile the compiler with the better compiler therfore making the compiler better
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rusti s also made in rust
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Aren't a lot of languages compiled with their own? Maybe not at first, but once it's able to?
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Devinci
Aren't a lot of languages compiled with their own? Maybe not at first, but once it's able to?
ye
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does rust provide bootstrap for compiler less machine?
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pilonpl
So if c, c++ and rust are all bad langueges, what is an actually good and modern language?
C and Rust are great languages :3
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i wonder what itd be like if ddnet was written in assembly
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the active developpers would go from something like 1 to a negative number xd
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