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Between 2023-03-08 00:00:00Z and 2023-03-09 00:00:00Z
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thebluepandabear BOT 2023-03-08 10:19:46Z
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isnt this year ddnet 10th birthday?
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cb0192d CMake: Add targets to allow (previously available) build by exec name - Kaffeine 28f9d0d Merge #6389 - bors[bot]
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 12:02:21Z
yea seems about right given that the first finish of deen is 2013 https://ddnet.org/players/deen/
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deen should know the date
12:04
will there big birthday event?
12:06
the wiki says it's 2013-07-18
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 12:17:28Z
multimap is hard
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ChillerDragon
the dude that made homebrew is now building a blockchain package manager to make it even slower than brew :D
Whenever I talked shit about this dude people came in to defend him. Look at what he created...
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ChillerDragon
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xd sure chillerbot.png is lyfe
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I was always wondering: why don't we have a tile-size option in the editor so it's possible to map smaller/bigger tiles then the default?
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AssassinTee
I was always wondering: why don't we have a tile-size option in the editor so it's possible to map smaller/bigger tiles then the default?
Hm, what do you mean?
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Teeworlds supports only one tile size
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Learath2
Hm, what do you mean?
for example, you use a tilelayer in the background with parallax, but since it's "further away" you want smaller tiles for a better distance effect
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Hm, is this currently doable? I don't know if we have zoom levels for layers
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It might require a map format change again
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We have zoom layers, but it's documented nowhere, I managed to break it and it's unclear to me how to map with it what I want to
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:27:20Z
wait what you can zoom tiles?
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in the editor, yes
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:27:41Z
how o.O
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group->custom zoom, press zoom button on editor top (next to grid)
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:30:07Z
indeed i did not know that thats fancy
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so you want to se a size of the tile instead of a general zoom? how is that even different
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parallax
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you can for example put smaller tiles in your fg
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or do some detail work in different sizes
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or the zoom in the bg doesn't make my tiles small enough, but I can't control it's value
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:32:44Z
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and working with parallax and zoom is really REALLY confusing
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:32:49Z
so you need more fine grained control
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does that thing even work? do clients see it resized in game?
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oh no, they don't ?!
13:34
Now I don't get this feature at all
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Learath2
Hm, is this currently doable? I don't know if we have zoom levels for layers
Do you think I should open a discussion? I would be willing to implement it as well (edited)
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:37:17Z
If it does not get applied to the actual map file then it is probably some ddnet editor shinanigan and not supported by the current map format.
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If that is the case one would have to create a new map format.
13:38
when having map format questions always ping patiga he is the guru
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does the map format never receive updates? Also makes me question slicing, as if it's also "hacked in"
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@Patiga ping 😄
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:41:56Z
most of the map updates cause compatibilty break so old clients can not load the new maps
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like for example the ddnet client not being able to load maps made with a 0.7 client (yet)
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if you change tile size, it can only be a visual (detail) layer and could therefore be only marked as detail and maybe not even served for other clients (or they ignore it)
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"but Assa, people will draw over gamelayers with half tile size" 🤔
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:47:09Z
serving two map files is actually what is being done with 0.7 maps on bridge servers but adding yet another map format is additional complexity im sure there will be some backlash
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The idea is, that you expand the map file format but only in ways which get ignored by other clients, you can't load a ddnet map with a 0.7 client anyway (at least fully, missing layers like tele-layer)
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I think you can mostly load a ddnet map in 0.7
13:49
only the tilesets are missing
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ChillerDragon BOT 2023-03-08 13:50:09Z
yea this way is fine but not the other way around
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heinrich5991
I think you can mostly load a ddnet map in 0.7
multimap: telelayers are missing, probably other stuff, too. I know from my material experiments that sound layers get ingored entirely (edited)
13:54
So we could just let the clients which can't load a map with that feature ignore a non-default-tile size and force it as detail for now
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3dd2435 Ignore .gdb_history - ChillerDragon 2222a1d Merge #6393 - bors[bot]
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Simon
will there big birthday event?
I will be quite busy around that time, so can't organize anything
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One feature I always wanted were resizable tile layers. I want to map smaller or bigger tiles in order to provide more details and I personally worked around it by creating extra tilesets. I also know that a lot of people want that feature, but there might be some caveats:
  • Adding a sizeX/sizeY parameter for a tilemap might require a new map format
  • Other/older clients can't render this properly
  • Gamelayers and other technical layers shouldn't change tilesizes
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A couple months ago I asked for a way to diagnose a stutter, I remember getting some good advice but I can't find it by searching :/
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So anyone any good ideas on how to diagnose a stutter with no apparent reason?
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Learath2
@Jupstar ✪ for the last couple months I've been getting some very harsh stuttering. Do you have any idea how I could go about diagnosing the issue?
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Aha, thanks. So I was going to grab an old version that doesn't stutter and use the benchmarking tools
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deen
I will be quite busy around that time, so can't organize anything
What about asking some other guys to organize it?
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Simon
What about asking some other guys to organize it?
you could do that, yes
20:23
or help organizing something 🙂
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I was thinking of a maybe a little bit more known person
20:25
Someone who has been some time around and has gathered some trust
20:25
But i have an idea
20:26
Replace the map on Reis server with an older blmap so the players will have a flashback when joining
20:26
v2 or something
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And then for normal maps ask some of the peak mappers for torunament map
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Maybe do a brainstorming session with some mods mappers if they get a nice idea
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Theoretically, I could host another server with the database of my BlmapChill server and F-DDrace mod
20:29
And then do a nice anniversary background for the menu
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first ddnet map as tournament
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Jupstar ✪
first ddnet map as tournament
which is the first map released on ddnet? i think its probably multiple
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first one that is not from ddmax
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Ah yes bring map the old multi easy map
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ddmax maps got released way after ddnets release
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Simon
Ah yes bring map the old multi easy map
/map Mutlimap
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i have no idea, there must be some first map xd
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Multimap*
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And then do a big callback on skype and Facebook and whatnot for the retired players
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Jupstar ✪
i have no idea, there must be some first map xd
Yea, but I think multiple maps got released at once in the beginning. DDmaX lived for about 1-2 years after ddnet started
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Challenge is deens first finish
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awesome map for a tournament xD
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And then ask the streamers which have some streaming experience for streaming events, so the retired who dont actually play can still watch
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And then do a second torunament for gores
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Simon
And then ask the streamers which have some streaming experience for streaming events, so the retired who dont actually play can still watch
No need to ask, they will do it anyways :D
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And do a fat giveaway, and for the giveaway present a temporary sponsor
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I like your pfp 🍞
20:33
very original
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And then shut Fokos server for p2w
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Portal would ofc be disabled on a V2 server
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Dude when i started playing u were one of the big guys to me fokko
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How far down have u gotten
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? xD
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Hosting a p2w server and ddosing
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Tststs
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What kinda random r u
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I used to not understand why ppl didnt liked u
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i dunno how this escalated so quickly now, but lets go 🍿
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wont even argue with this guy
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This guy is coffee
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Calm
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Not THE coffee
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Just for your clarification: 1. was always possible to buy/donate on my server 2. never ddosed xddd
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i think u mix it up with vali or Rei, idk
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Maybe do an announcement that organizers are needed
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Tststs
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Fokko
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fokkonaut
Just for your clarification: 1. was always possible to buy/donate on my server 2. never ddosed xddd
so p2w
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Ddos is not just vali and rei u know
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lets ddos some 2d game that didnt any serious bad thing never
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Gewinum
so p2w
ye but it has been like that since basically always
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Gewinum
lets ddos some 2d game that didnt any serious bad thing never
i find it good idea to risk it for some 2d game
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Simon
How far down have u gotten
ye, i was just proving him that this statement is wrong xd
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and that guy is saying fokko got low lately xd btw how did this go from helping organizing an event to ddos
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childhood trauma probably
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U know what would be pog for anniversary?
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banning u
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Having matricks back in the game
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If he showed up in a video with deen and the other ddnet founders that would be insane
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lets do ddos from ddnet servers
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troll
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imagine ddos by all servers around the world
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Maybe do fat discord vc event with music
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And matricks in the vc
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Matricks is a piece of history
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Gewinum
imagine ddos by all servers around the world
even fucking chile
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And the other founders, Teetow and so on
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Involving the community could be a good move
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I will for sure do not a single thing since i like brainshiting this ddos network and enjoy watching these degenerates being degenerates
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Also fokkonaut also ddosed vali back, idk if he private ddosed him or his server since it was about 2019/2020 when he did
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This statement shows, that you have absolutely no clue. My server started in 2019, and there was absolutely no DDoS at that time. So there was also nothing to DDoS back. But since everything you said today is completely garbage, it doesnt matter anyways xD
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@Discord Mod could we maybe get rid of this guy, since he is accusing and starting dumb arguments out of nowhere
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He pinged
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Bann him
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(check chat history)
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Simon
Also fokkonaut also ddosed vali back, idk if he private ddosed him or his server since it was about 2019/2020 when he did
lmao wtf
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Well well if thats not rei joining all in when its about ddos
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stop saying things when you have no clue, as @fokkonaut said (edited)
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not even the 1st time you're like that
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@ReiTW want some 🍿 ?
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fokkonaut
@ReiTW want some 🍿 ?
gigachad
20:55
No need to answer to those type of people anymore
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Idk bro i came here wanted to talk about anniversary, fokkonaut comes and randomly talks abt my pfp
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Ok then
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not a reason to say things that people didn't even do
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fokkonaut
I like your pfp 🍞
u mean this?
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lmao
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Stop talking here offtopic from now on. (edited)
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