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Overlord

Ehhhh how old were You again?

I'm 24, will be 25 soon

So not even 60 years of suffering left

I guess 80 years is a little too pessimistic. I wont live until 105 (edited)

Don’t be so sure

With how U are, the telomeres shorten quickly and cancer gets U

Life spans are increasing

Though my grandparents lived very long. I just might

Anyways learath I doubt getting a gf will make you happy

But he aint attracted to men nor animals

It seems to me that you hate yourself or at least don’t respect yourself

So thats worth a try

Until you can fix that you will always be unhappy

funman

Until you can fix that you will always be unhappy

He will also be toxic for potential gf

funman

Anyways learath I doubt getting a gf will make you happy

I'd just like to give it a try. It's the only thing I didn't get to experience in life yet. If even that isn't enough I'll find a way to cope np. I'm flexible

But that’s just a guess, I don’t know you, but it seems to be the case from what you say

Mostly unconsiously i believe

I’ve seen it in my friends

Learath2

I'd just like to give it a try. It's the only thing I didn't get to experience in life yet. If even that isn't enough I'll find a way to cope np. I'm flexible

Did U get to exeprience 8G force?

Overlord

He will also be toxic for potential gf

I would never. I have a very gentle personality. Toxicity is illegal

Where they hate themselves

00:03

Makes it impossible to be happy

Overlord

Did U get to exeprience 8G force?

There is no way pulling 8g brings happiness

Learath2

I would never. I have a very gentle personality. Toxicity is illegal

U wouldnt even know toxicity has many forms as overprotection and being too clingy

Learath2

I would never. I have a very gentle personality. Toxicity is illegal

Burdening someone with your problems is toxic even if you don’t intend it

Learath2

There is no way pulling 8g brings happiness

But U said U tried everything i doubt U did try even 20% maybr manual labour brings happiness

Overlord

But U said U tried everything i doubt U did try even 20% maybr manual labour brings happiness

None of this will work

funman

Burdening someone with your problems is toxic even if you don’t intend it

How about equivalent exchange? I'm much better at helping others with their problems than helping myself

He needs to find a way to value himself first

Learath2

How about equivalent exchange? I'm much better at helping others with their problems than helping myself

Not everyone wants the guy with the solutions

funman

He needs to find a way to value himself first

He doesnt value life not himself

Overlord

But U said U tried everything i doubt U did try even 20% maybr manual labour brings happiness

Let me rephrase. I tried everything you might associate with happiness

I’m not saying it won’t work btw but I’m just guessing

Learath2

How about equivalent exchange? I'm much better at helping others with their problems than helping myself

Girls are sunken cost fallacy too especially if u invest and she leaves U later

Overlord

He doesnt value life not himself

I think he doesn’t like the person he sees in the mirror

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He doesn’t respect him

00:06

And he probably thinks he is pathetic

Learath2

Let me rephrase. I tried everything you might associate with happiness

But not 8G and other things that release it

If that’s the case you can’t be happy until that’s resolved

All I ask for is a chance at it. If that doesn't work either I'll figure something else out. I'll just become a druggie or sth idk

funman

I think he doesn’t like the person he sees in the mirror

He blames most of his problems at his past choices which is just wrong, and expects things to literally work like do X -> get happy

Learath2

All I ask for is a chance at it. If that doesn't work either I'll figure something else out. I'll just become a druggie or sth idk

Drugs aint for responsible kids like us

Overlord

But not 8G and other things that release it

How will enough force to scramble my brain help?

Overlord

He blames most of his problems at his past choices which is just wrong, and expects things to literally work like do X -> get happy

Yup he is blaming himself

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Learath you need to learn to forgive yourself

00:08

You are worthy of it

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I assume

funman

And he probably thinks he is pathetic

Aye, tell how to fix

Learath2

How will enough force to scramble my brain help?

It just works man, bungee jumping might too

Learath2

Aye, tell how to fix

Think opposite of what u do, so simple

I did bungee jumping before

Learath2

Aye, tell how to fix

Idk but that’s why you are unhappy if that is what you think

Learath2

I did bungee jumping before

Rope was too short then

I should try skydiving I guess, that's the next step. But adrenaline just doesnt do it for me

You need to be less judgmental of yourself and others

Learath2

I should try skydiving I guess, that's the next step. But adrenaline just doesnt do it for me

How about reading books with a story instead of c++ manuals?

funman

You need to be less judgmental of yourself and others

I never judge others. I do compare myself to others a lot

One friend of mine thinks he is pathetic because he is wasting his life Rooted in his judgment of others

funman

You need to be less judgmental of yourself and others

If U keep on helping him i wont have unhealthy chatting partner, as he might actually do something to get better

But he is even harsher to himself

Overlord

How about reading books with a story instead of c++ manuals?

I read every day almost. Usually some philosophy but sometimes also fiction

Learath2

I never judge others. I do compare myself to others a lot

You think things you do are bad though right

Learath2

I read every day almost. Usually some philosophy but sometimes also fiction

Probably stoicism judging by Ur lack of desire

You would say if others were like you then they would be bad too right

funman

You think things you do are bad though right

Not really. I mostly blame my past actions rather than the present ones

funman

You would say if others were like you then they would be bad too right

Something like that took place few hours ago

Learath2

Not really. I mostly blame my past actions rather than the present ones

What have you done that is so unforgivable

Overlord

If U keep on helping him i wont have unhealthy chatting partner, as he might actually do something to get better

I sure hope so, hopelessness is awful

Overlord

Probably stoicism judging by Ur lack of desire

I read some some stoic literature, epictetus and marcus aurelius, honestly it's pretty reliant on belief in a higher power/god. I'm not a huge fan of it

Just watched end of evangelion btw

00:12

This conversation reminds me a lot of it

I'm mostly reading Engels and Marx currently

funman

What have you done that is so unforgivable

If the answer is he wasted his teenage years in front of pc instead of socialising and partying then im in that bag too

Overlord

If the answer is he wasted his teenage years in front of pc instead of socialising and partying then im in that bag too

Don’t see it as wasted time

Learath2

I read some some stoic literature, epictetus and marcus aurelius, honestly it's pretty reliant on belief in a higher power/god. I'm not a huge fan of it

Isnt it reliant on stability of ones mind, that no external informatiom can influence U

You need to let go

funman

What have you done that is so unforgivable

I've neglected developing my social skills, it's not unforgivable, rather it's unfixable

funman

Don’t see it as wasted time

In my case it is if i didnt acquire any new knowledge since 2016

Learath2

I've neglected developing my social skills, it's not unforgivable, rather it's unfixable

No it’s not lol

00:14

It’s a skill you can train

00:14

I in fact did that in highschool completely change who I was

Learath2

I've neglected developing my social skills, it's not unforgivable, rather it's unfixable

Lmao why do U believe urself to be such a hard case, man i didnt even visit somone elses house till i was 17, everything is doable, sure no teenage love not teenage parties as we cant go back in time, but that doesnt fuck up@future at all

Overlord

Isnt it reliant on stability of ones mind, that no external informatiom can influence U

You have to believe some higher power commands you to act in such a way. Even Epictetus himself acknowledges that if you have no such higher power or can no longer live up to those ideals "the door is open" (you should just kys)

I was so shy and awkward, but I literally studied how others acted in social situations and practiced implementing it myself

00:15

It will take a while but change will happen

Learath2

You have to believe some higher power commands you to act in such a way. Even Epictetus himself acknowledges that if you have no such higher power or can no longer live up to those ideals "the door is open" (you should just kys)

Focus on funman and Ur problem dont jump topics protitize them this one is more important

Learath2

You have to believe some higher power commands you to act in such a way. Even Epictetus himself acknowledges that if you have no such higher power or can no longer live up to those ideals "the door is open" (you should just kys)

Also on side note dont believe shit U read in 2000 old scroll

funman

I in fact did that in highschool completely change who I was

Key concept, you did it in highschool. There is a reason I believe it's unfixable: it's because people just dont get many other social pools to change themselves in

Learath2

Key concept, you did it in highschool. There is a reason I believe it's unfixable: it's because people just dont get many other social pools to change themselves in

Then im failure too?

You get elementary/middle/high school, 3 pools if you change schools, 1 if you don't. You get uni and you are done (edited)

Learath2

Key concept, you did it in highschool. There is a reason I believe it's unfixable: it's because people just dont get many other social pools to change themselves in

Not true, my sister for example now out of college joins so many different leagues to socialize

Since i never had a Gf and have 1 friend and 1 acquaintance

She is in a book club and a volleyball league and a corn hole league etc

00:18

You just need to put yourself out there

00:18

Ik it can be scary

Tf is corn hole

Game

00:18

USA lol

Ok so thats where all girls at ...

funman

I was so shy and awkward, but I literally studied how others acted in social situations and practiced implementing it myself

I'm even fine in social situations. You just don't get social situations out of nowhere

Overlord

Tf is corn hole

Even more confusing

Learath2

I'm even fine in social situations. You just don't get social situations out of nowhere

Join activities

00:19

You live in a city right?

funman

Join activities

He refuses

There are so many leagues

00:20

Just join a book club

Bah u can go to a club and there people@talk to each other for no reason

Or download one of those dating apps but like for finding friends

He is still a student so he could even meet somone at uni

Overlord

He refuses

My university is 70% male, with the engineering part being almost 90% male. What club am I supposed to join even?

Learath2

My university is 70% male, with the engineering part being almost 90% male. What club am I supposed to join even?

Make make friends man

Learath2

My university is 70% male, with the engineering part being almost 90% male. What club am I supposed to join even?

COOKING CLUB OUTSIDE OF UNI

Male*

Actually true, meeting females by association

00:21

It works

Least socially awkward Italian I swear

Overlord

COOKING CLUB OUTSIDE OF UNI

I did a 3 month cooking course. Met some people, led nowhere. I'm a permanent friend to everyone

funman

Least socially awkward Italian I swear

He just living there

What is he then

00:22

French?

funman

What is he then

He has to say it

funman

French?

I'm turkish. I just live in Italy while I study

Learath2

I'm turkish. I just live in Italy while I study

Ah nice

Learath2

I did a 3 month cooking course. Met some people, led nowhere. I'm a permanent friend to everyone

Well, maybe because just maybe, either everyone was already in a relationship or U neither any female felt attraction to one another

00:23

God my dad found his first and last gf late in life

Overlord

God my dad found his first and last gf late in life

He should thank god he found one

Learath2

He should thank god he found one

I rather he didnt

Learath2

He should thank god he found one

It really isn’t that hard

00:24

If you actually try

00:24

Just download like tinder or whatever they have in the eu

Females are super werid if U have one they suddenly appear everywhere and if U dont they all arent interested

Overlord

Females are super werid if U have one they suddenly appear everywhere and if U dont they all arent interested

Femoids*

funman

Just download like tinder or whatever they have in the eu

You need at the very least pics for tinder

Learath2

You need at the very least pics for tinder

So?

funman

Just download like tinder or whatever they have in the eu

Stop bringing logic and technology, U expect him to find a date on a dating app@where people who are alone want to find somone else to not be alone with?!?

Overlord

Females are super werid if U have one they suddenly appear everywhere and if U dont they all arent interested

Don't say females if you don't want to die alone. That's a turbo redflag (edited)

Learath2

Don't say females if you don't want to die alone. That's a turbo redflag (edited)

Human producers

I give you guys benefit of doubt since you are English second language

I say females when i refer to all age of women and girls

00:27

Because U looking for a girl not a woman atleast i believe so

Overlord

Because U looking for a girl not a woman atleast i believe so

Sus

funman

I give you guys benefit of doubt since you are English second language

Dont, im just retarded

funman

I give you guys benefit of doubt since you are English second language

Turborude, I speak proper English AnyaSob

(edited)

00:28

The queens english even (edited)

Learath2

Turborude, I speak proper English AnyaSob

(edited)

You do, but I can’t know for sure over text

Well, i spent a lot of time, in egyptian english community (chats) and so now im full blown NI - ach nevermind

Overlord

Well, i spent a lot of time, in egyptian english community (chats) and so now im full blown NI - ach nevermind

Excuse me wtf

Anyway my english was firm and proper few years ago too

Overlord

I say females when i refer to all age of women and girls

I'll take anyone between 18 and 50

Learath2

Excuse me wtf

Dude they are crazy over there and egyptian death metal sounds like shit and is illegal by law i believe

Learath2

I'll take anyone between 18 and 50

Tinder then

Learath2

I'll take anyone between 18 and 50

Damn 50 bro

If U hate the tought of dating app like i do

00:29

GET A DOG and go to DOG park

00:29

There are a lot of girls there

Have a little more respect for yourself

Also choose dog under 20kg

funman

So?

Selfies are lame, don't have any friends here to take pics with

When my dog was small i was swarmed by girls 15-30

00:30

For 2 months

Learath2

Selfies are lame, don't have any friends here to take pics with

You do a selfie for the cover

But never got further than random small talk

Then do picture of you doing activities

funman

Have a little more respect for yourself

Desperate times desperate measures. I'll add another 5 every year

Or just creative pictures of yourself

Learath2

Selfies are lame, don't have any friends here to take pics with

Self picture aka the one U setup with a timer

00:31

Y love technology yet dont use it

Learath2

Desperate times desperate measures. I'll add another 5 every year

This is the issue

00:31

You deserve better but you don’t believe yourself worthy of love

funman

This is the issue

He cant go below tho

funman

You deserve better but you don’t believe yourself worthy of love

Deserve is such a bad word... to use here

Everyone does deserve love

funman

You deserve better but you don’t believe yourself worthy of love

What does it matter what I think I deserve? At the end of the day I don't get a chance either way, might aswell keep the pool wide

U gonna get him to say really long sentence about life and stuff

I’m not saying you are entitled to a woman

I believe I'm entitled to an ounce of happiness atleast. This is illegal

Learath2

What does it matter what I think I deserve? At the end of the day I don't get a chance either way, might aswell keep the pool wide

Just find some italin man and ask for his daughter hand

Learath2

I believe I'm entitled to an ounce of happiness atleast. This is illegal

Ye but U dont allow urself to be happy

Learath2

What does it matter what I think I deserve? At the end of the day I don't get a chance either way, might aswell keep the pool wide

This goes back to the lack of self respect

00:34

Anyways no one else can fix you

00:34

Change must come from within

U expect happiness to work like fucking console output, if X=true then HAPPY

It must be deliberate and consistent

00:34

If you focus on improving your self respect over time things will get better

Overlord

U expect happiness to work like fucking console output, if X=true then HAPPY

I only expect that because that's how it works for everyone I have around me

Not being miserable is good start, then U should stop belittling urself

You must view it as focused practice

00:35

Like getting good at teeworlds

Peoples lives just work out. They do the things they want and it just works out

You must be able to analyze your flaws

00:35

Anyways that’s my advice, I really hope you can get better

Learath2

I only expect that because that's how it works for everyone I have around me

They LIE or U misunderstand their words noone is happy all the time just like depression is not big sad 24/7

I’m going to take a shower good luck

I do the things I like, I end up in a dark room alone getting drunk which I don't even enjoy

funman

I’m going to take a shower good luck

Enjoy

Learath2

I do the things I like, I end up in a dark room alone getting drunk which I don't even enjoy

Bro