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Between 2023-03-02 00:00:00Z and 2023-03-03 00:00:00Z
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i have a really weird bad problem my gpu is rx 570 rgb xfx edition and when i run the game my gpu crash for no reason and i need to close the pc and open it again to make the screen work then i need to install the driven again , and i don't think it's the gpu crash because i'm playing league of legends 60 fps (edited)
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already posted here
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Deleted User
i have a really weird bad problem my gpu is rx 570 rgb xfx edition and when i run the game my gpu crash for no reason and i need to close the pc and open it again to make the screen work then i need to install the driven again , and i don't think it's the gpu crash because i'm playing league of legends 60 fps (edited)
@Jupstar ✪ you're the graphics guy right...
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Ewan
already posted here
A oke
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Deleted User
i have a really weird bad problem my gpu is rx 570 rgb xfx edition and when i run the game my gpu crash for no reason and i need to close the pc and open it again to make the screen work then i need to install the driven again , and i don't think it's the gpu crash because i'm playing league of legends 60 fps (edited)
There are numerous graphics (gfx) related bugs users encountered. Not all are fixable, but might have workarounds. This site is there to collect these to help those encountering the same issues.
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@Jupstar ✪ (edited)
06:29
I'm not using an intel gpu , it's an amd readon rx 570 , and also i don't even get time to do it , it's like i open the game i go to the settings , then the screen switch to black
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I never said u use Intel
06:30
Just update Ur drivers
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oh wait i should open the link from the pc to see more, mb sorry , but i already updated the driver and the same problem@Jupstar ✪
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If your really updated your drivers. Tell me which version
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one moment
06:33
@Jupstar ✪23.2.2
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adrenaline
06:34
i tried to install 22.1.1 , it worked for a little bit but suddenly it's stopped working
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Maybe it's a hardware problem
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Jupstar ✪
Maybe it's a hardware problem
how can i fix it ?
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Unplug GPU. Clean it. Plug it in again
07:45
Might work
07:46
Or if PSU is too bad lower refresh rate
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Jupstar ✪
Unplug GPU. Clean it. Plug it in again
i did it before 😦 , if i install a new windows and download the driver and everything again, is it might work?
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Might, not guaranteed, would always try all other methods before reinstalling my system ^^
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i did it before 😦 , if i install a new windows and download the driver and everything again, is it might work?
Hard to say. If u don't have anything important on Ur system u can try it. Issues like this are always random to me. Especially since I have a rx 580 without any problems (edited)
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it’s very interesting that the game is sending your whole system crashing down
08:41
if reseating it & cleaning it doesn’t fix it then it might be time to test on a fresh install of windows (which you can do on another drive, by the way; use rufus to make a windows to go install)
08:41
and if that doesn’t work… get a new gpu or try reflowing it xd
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before: $ ./DDNet-Server 'logfile "invalid/path.txt"' | grep failed 2023-03-02 09:43:37 I client: failed to open 'invalid/path.txt' for logging after: $ ./DDNet-Server 'logfile "invalid/path.txt"' | grep failed 2023-03-02 09:43:55 I server: failed to open 'invalid/path.txt' for logging 🤯
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Jupstar ✪
Hard to say. If u don't have anything important on Ur system u can try it. Issues like this are always random to me. Especially since I have a rx 580 without any problems (edited)
I'll try to do it and tell u ,ty for helping
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2085379 Fix server logfile error message - ChillerDragon 4fa4339 Merge #6374 - bors[bot]
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@Deleted User possible your pc have a virus. My friend's game crashed after he joined as spectator, after scanning hes system with antivirus, he found miner and deleted it, after it game not crasing in spec (sry for bad english xd)
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lmao nvidia big brains
09:33
csgo2 leaked cuz of them
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Source
09:36
Engine
09:38
If they don't transfer CSGO skins would be badass move xd
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Jupstar ✪
Source
source?
10:44
u mean where did I get that info or
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I just wanted to make a joke but u were to slow
10:44
Source engine
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am at school
10:45
can't use my brain too much on discord, already dying with Avispa program
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Finally native Vulkan rendering
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Mʎɹ シ
@Deleted User possible your pc have a virus. My friend's game crashed after he joined as spectator, after scanning hes system with antivirus, he found miner and deleted it, after it game not crasing in spec (sry for bad english xd)
it might be , so the perfect idea now I'll format the C and make a new windows , ty brooo
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@Learath2 what's annoying about the python requests library?
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Doesn't have a good way to hook in
16:25
Axios in javascript is about what I expect from a http client library nowadays
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fokkonaut
Might, not guaranteed, would always try all other methods before reinstalling my system ^^
not on arch xd
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Learath2
Doesn't have a good way to hook in
ah, that's more advanced than what I did before
18:29
mind sharing what you do? 🙂
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heinrich5991
mind sharing what you do? 🙂
I just wanted to hook in on requests to record the original url and check if a redirect occured on the response
18:30
I can wrap it to get that behaviour probably but I just hacked something else together. This was just a small scraper that wont be used again anyway
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it might be , so the perfect idea now I'll format the C and make a new windows , ty brooo
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Something weird just happened. Latest NVIDIA drivers introduced support for unknown app executables called "csgos2.exe" and "cs2.exe". Why project is called Counter-Strike 2 and what are you cooking @csgo?
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Yoooo look at this guys
20:04
this is how hard I bricked my pc kek
20:04
this ssd wont live long frfr
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Is this showing the "disk" fragmentation? Defragging SSDs is pointless, unless you want to decrease its lifespan (edited)
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that’s what it looks like
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at this point does it matter? kekW kekW
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SSDs have excellent random access so defragmenting is just moving shit around pointlessly
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Even for modern HDDs it's not really relevant to defrag them manually anymore
20:08
modern HDD + modern OS
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Still tho, this shit is storing my backups
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Even worse to decrease the lifespan of your backup SSD for no reason monkaS
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this is my very first time defraging it
20:09
Its gonna be fine I think
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Well, yeah, but you'll just wear it out for absolutely no reason
20:09
So it will break sooner than if you never defragged it
20:10
and it will be 0% faster by defragging it
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I guess, then I'll just move my backup to my main ssd, then wipe the other one
20:10
if wiping helps
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Deleting things from the SSD is what wears it out
20:10
Defragging also means you delete things because it moves the blocks around
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ok, then what doesn't?
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Reading doesn't as far as I know
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So, either way I have to shorten it in order to not brick
20:12
oh yeah, the 34% wasnt the final score
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Less writing is better, but you obviously need to write something or it will stay empty 😄
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well yes, since its my backup ssd
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Defragging just moves the blocks around for not reason so it's just bad for your SSD lifespan
20:13
For backups an HDD (or rather a raid) would probably be better
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But I want to wipe the ssd after I moved the backup
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u dont wipe
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I only need to defrag incase I move corrupted files
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u just remove the gpt table and done kek
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If you do a fast format then it doesn't wipe anything except the file table
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Ryozuki
u just remove the gpt table and done kek
its MBR
20:14
the other is gpt
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thats not disk dependent
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no u dont
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Same applies, fast format doesn't wipe everything
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otherwise u wouldnt mention it
20:14
r u on windows 10?
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well i mentioned it cuz u dont know which one is which
20:14
if it ever makes difference
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mbr is for pre uefi era
20:14
but it has nothing to do with the disk
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Ryozuki
r u on windows 10?
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its about booting
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11 needs gpt format
20:15
the one ssd with the os on it is fine, but the backup ssd with mbr is not
20:16
well ok, i shorten the lifespan either way, but im forced to do that arent I?
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If you want to wipe it so it's clean, then yeah, but it doesn't shorten it as much as defragging
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I see
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And defragging is completely pointless for SSDs, because they have fast access speed
20:18
Defragging is only somewhat useful for HDDs, because the disk and the read head need to move into alignment, so it's faster if entire files are in the blocks adjacent to each other
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So it optimizes the route of the files to be as accurate as it needs? and it's usually good for hdds, cuz they are slower?
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With modern OS with lots of RAM it's not really necessary to manually defrag either
20:20
Important files are loaded into RAM if you have enough
20:20
And Windows probably defrags files a bit in the background as well
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ye, with windows defrag
20:21
Ok, so I wipe the data now, I didn't start defraging yet, cuz I wondered if this is worse
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Yeah, wipe is fine if you just do the fast format and not the complete format or a secure delete that takes hours
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i dont have that time
20:22
kek
20:22
and for me, it takes days, not hours
20:23
but ty for the info, appreciate it
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how big is this ssd
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the os ssd is 1tb, the backup ssd is 110gb
20:24
justatest
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smol backup
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before you ask why the 1tb ssd for os
20:24
that ssd is way faster and new
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Robyt3
Deleting things from the SSD is what wears it out
no, writting things to SSD wears it out
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I think its both
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Isn't that basically the same thing? To write to a sector you first must clear it.
20:28
Though deleting in Windows doesn't really delete the file from the SSD I guess
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thats why I use AOMEI partition assistant
20:29
gigachad
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is it with NAND Flash, however when deleting, you only update file table
20:30
reading a quite huge number of times the same data, may also end up wearing the read block
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Chairn
reading a quite huge number of times the same data, may also end up wearing the read block
Isn't it only worse, when the drive starts to fail noticably?
20:31
like being slower of fails writing stuff?
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it gets worse the older the SSD is
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Oh, the backup ssd is around 2020, so it should be fine
20:32
and the os ssd I have is brand new
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when SSD gets old (ie too many writes cycle), it has to move data from stale block to functionning block
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The first rule of data storage is to always have a backup, are you sure you have a backup while you wipe your backup SSD? justatest
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so the older it gets, the more move it has to perform and tries to even the wearing out on all available blocks
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I uploaded the most important stuff to Onedrive (edited)
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hence a 1TB SSD is usually 1.2TB but extra data is hidden by SSD controller
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Guess I should think about cloning my old system SSD to a new one at some point
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seems ok to me
20:34
I saw way worse, like my laptop's ssd
20:34
150k cycles justatest justatest
20:35
it was like an 8 yrs old piece of shit xd
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Mine should be 8 years this year as well
20:35
It's been powered on for 4 years in total
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Cellegen
thats why I use AOMEI partition assistant
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looks ok tho, not a sign that it should be wearing out
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Ewan
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gigachad
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Wear Leveling Count is at 92, which is still okay
20:37
If it's at 0 then it's gone, but it can technically fail at any point before that also
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new one for me is at 98%
20:38
that bastard ssd is already dying on me kek
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Oh one more thing, is dividing the SDD into different partition layers affects the lifespan or performance?
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@Robyt3
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Some google searches suggest it doesn't make a difference
20:50
Wear leveling probably works anyway
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I recently bought a 1TB ssd and the next day found out my motherboard supports m.2 (edited)
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that sucks but you should have done your research lol
21:10
also unless it was on the back or something it's kinda hard to miss
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I just wasn't looking at my motherboard and believed my brother who said that I don't have an m.2 slot
21:11
He somehow missed it
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But there is a possibility that he takes the ssd and buys me an m.2 since he already has an m.2 and 2 bad hard drives
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i kinda want to get a better m.2 drive
21:13
mine is 512 which isn't bad by any means but with size comes speed on these ssds (usually)
21:13
and if i get a better one then i can put that one in my laptop
21:13
theoretically
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Honestly a normal ssd is enough speed for me
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you say that and then you actually try the good stuff
21:14
logging into windows takes no time at all
21:14
i might do some stuff
21:14
rearrange my drives so my windows is on the m.2 and my linux install is on the sata ssd that windows is on rn
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I have to backup my data and switch my current 120 gb ssd with the new 1tb one
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which ssd did you get
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Patriot
21:15
P220 i think
21:16
Was on sale so i got it for cheap
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interesting
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Welcome to the SSD tier list. SSD or Solid State Drive is a storage device containing non-volatile flash memory, used in place of hard drive because of its much greater speed. Unlike a hard drive, a solid state drive doesnt have any moving parts. It has two main components - A flash controller an...
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Might be useful
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all the top ones seem to be pcie gen 5 lol
21:28
which i won't gain anything from
21:28
cuz old ish mobo
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I always just get whatever samsung has. Too much thinking required to research ssds
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Robyt3
Less writing is better, but you obviously need to write something or it will stay empty 😄
Learned something new today... Ive been doin sudo shred -f -z -n 1 /dev/sdxx all my life long. 💀
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Learath2
I always just get whatever samsung has. Too much thinking required to research ssds
Yup, but those are priced heavily
22:23
but tbh worth the cost
22:24
Also, is there a chance in Steam DDNet to cloud save Appdata's DDNet folder as well?
22:24
I lost my data recently and never bothered backing up my ddnet folder, so I lost like 70% of my stuff
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We wanted to do that but the problem is we didn't want to only offer it to steam users
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Crash report by Tarz: ``` ------------------- Error occurred on Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 18:27:38. DDNet.exe caused an Access Violation at location 0000000000000000 DEP violation at location 0000000000000000. AddrPC Params 0000000000000000 0000008A13FFAA70 00007FF674869375 00007FF674B2E4DE 00007FFA3D82A437 00007FF674B6D8B9 0000008A13FFAB00 0000008A13B2FFB2 avformat-59.dll!av_write_trailer+0xa7 00007FF674869772 0000008A13B2FFB2 00007FF6749D0194 3F8000003F333333 DDNe...
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Learath2
We wanted to do that but the problem is we didn't want to only offer it to steam users
But shouldn't it be already on Steam if it's intended?
23:10
At least have Steam players a chance to utilize it
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