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Keskin
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yani bu çocukla dalga geçecek kadar alcaksin
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bu çocuğun engeli var ve bunu adı mizah oluyor dalga gecince
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i did it
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Alex
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this is us
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I botted that so hard
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Horunik
i did it
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@bencie dmdm
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Horunik
i did it
молодец
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Broso56
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nekorul
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Man I still can't find it
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cankick
bu çocuğun engeli var ve bunu adı mizah oluyor dalga gecince
çocuk dediğin adam eline çocuk verir knk kimseyle dalga geçtiğimiz yok bak dalgana
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Keskin
çocuk dediğin adam eline çocuk verir knk kimseyle dalga geçtiğimiz yok bak dalgana
kardeşim sende gayet iyi biliorsun (edited)
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adam cocuk değil ama (edited)
17:00
baya dalga gecdiler
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Did you know it is relatively hard to die from alcohol poisoning unless you are a very small person?
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Are you talking from experience?
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justatest
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I will be putting it to test tonight
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update us tomorrow... or not monkaS
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At 68kg even 10 standard drinks shouldn't kill me
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Learath2
At 68kg even 10 standard drinks shouldn't kill me
Hey just try one drink of isopropyl
19:20
Its damn strong!
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I need scientific data about this. I'll have to try 😎
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Nah that'd definitely kill me. I'm just trying to be on the edge
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Wanna feel like dying? Just dont eat entire day and then spike urself with sugar
19:21
Eapecially in liquid form
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Someone who swallows isopropyl alcohol may appear drunk. Effects include sedation, slurred speech, unsteadiness when walking, and vomiting. Isopropyl alcohol is also extremely irritating to the digestive tract. Drinking a lot of it can cause vomiting, diarrhea, pain, and bleeding in the stomach and intestines. "Dying" isn't written there. Might be safe nouis (edited)
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It wont kill U, U will just feel like puking and everything will be dizzy/sipnny
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Overlord
Eapecially in liquid form
Hm, why should that do anything? It's basically fasting and breaking a fast quickly
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No, ur body goes numb nuts i have no idea how it works
19:23
I read it in a book about survival to avoid certain sugars when U are exhausted
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not eating for a day isn't that much either....
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Will give it a try, thanks for the tip
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And accidently tried on myself
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"Accidentaly didn't eat for a day and then accidentally proceeded to eat sugar in liquid form"
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I didnt eat for entire night and work day then got really really sweet tea at restaurant and nearly passed out (atlest thats what i felt)
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Devinci
"Accidentaly didn't eat for a day and then accidentally proceeded to eat sugar in liquid form"
Happens to all of us
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Devinci
"Accidentaly didn't eat for a day and then accidentally proceeded to eat sugar in liquid form"
Ye :l it really happens
19:24
I read it 2-3 weeks prior and forgot about it till it happened (edited)
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Overlord
I didnt eat for entire night and work day then got really really sweet tea at restaurant and nearly passed out (atlest thats what i felt)
oh wait. this might actually explain some stuff
19:25
so yeah, I'll probably consume less sugar from now on justatest
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Learath2
At 68kg even 10 standard drinks shouldn't kill me
r u smol?
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Way too big to die from drinking 😦
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u can definitly die from drinking
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Devinci
so yeah, I'll probably consume less sugar from now on justatest
Its only a problem when U dont have other stuff to digest it with and its not for every type of sugar i think honey has this effect
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one way is u get too drunk and poke upwards
19:25
if ur in a bad position u die
19:26
cuz u cant breathe
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Learath2
Way too big to die from drinking 😦
U can die from drinking like my neighbour fight ur drink buddy to death over last bottle
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If I was a 40kg female and drank 10 standard drinks I'd get a lethal level of BAC (edited)
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Ryozuki
if ur in a bad position u die
yeah but that's not dying from drinking is it? More like drowning in your own vomit
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well drinking caused it
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did it really?
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and it definitly can happen
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you had to put yourself in a bad position
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If U want sure fire way to die painful death
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lol when ur drunk u dont decide that
19:27
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Just melt a lot of salt in small amount of water and drink it
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thats why first rule of someone puking is to put them in a position
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Nothing will save U
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if they are on the ground
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Overlord
If U want sure fire way to die painful death
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But I mean, what would be the real cause of dead? "drinking too much" or "not enough oxygen / whatever you call it "
19:27
nvm, I'm thinking too much about this
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U can die from alcohol poisoning with liver failure
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repeated drinking a lot will also cause ur liver to be shit
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Overlord
Just melt a lot of salt in small amount of water and drink it
Hypernatremia is correctable if caught early 😛
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but i first would worry about becoming addict
19:28
and then agresive
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and more sad
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Ye but as with every toxin if U drink for first time huge amount U might not handle it
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Learath2
Hypernatremia is correctable if caught early 😛
Show me where the ambulance arrives in less than 7 min
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drugs = bad case solved
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Either way dying is bad, self harm too
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i think the actual state of "feeling" good from drinking doesnt last too much, and then the depressive side kicks in hard
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U cant get isekaied this way
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Overlord
Either way dying is bad, self harm too
yes dying is bad, one less tax payer
19:30
if ur on the old side of age, dying is good
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True, unless they die on the day of their retirement
19:31
capitalism powa
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Ryozuki
i think the actual state of "feeling" good from drinking doesnt last too much, and then the depressive side kicks in hard
you don't get depressed if you can't wake up 😎
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Devinci
you don't get depressed if you can't wake up 😎
This is the goal
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If U dont want to wake up just dont sleep
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Devinci
you don't get depressed if you can't wake up 😎
i just read ur discord bio, and i can only say its interesting xd
19:32
where u high writing that? kek
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Ehhhh. I'm my defence I put that a long time ago justatest
19:32
nah, just looked for shitposts, and found that
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^regarding capitalism (edited)
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me_irl
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Grave robber or digger
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Devinci
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This is equal to wishing to get hit by car everyday
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that one is gold
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Damn spy x my mom spoilers i havent seen 2nd season at all
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Ryozuki
i think the actual state of "feeling" good from drinking doesnt last too much, and then the depressive side kicks in hard
Ethanol is a cns depressant, there is not much happy associated with it. It does numb all sorts of pain though, which is A+
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im just imagining a 13y old kid joining this discord happy to play and seeing this offtopic chat
19:34
kekw
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13 yo are already depressed
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listening to billie eilis
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Learath2
Ethanol is a cns depressant, there is not much happy associated with it. It does numb all sorts of pain though, which is A+
Alcohol is only fun when its wine, with a friend and U later lie in bed with that friend but there is nothing geh about that because thats what people in and before medieval times did
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the fun ends when you realise the 10cl you drank actually cost 30 euros
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Thats when U pull the trick of my neighbour
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Either way @Learath2 have U ever been really drunk?
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Overlord
Either way @Learath2 have U ever been really drunk?
I've literally crawled home before though only across the hall
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So... do You want to repeat that?
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Overlord
So... do You want to repeat that?
No, I hate being drunk with a passion
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then what's the reason for all of this?
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Self destructive behaviour
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then why not do something fun and self destructive?
19:42
like spending night in a forest?
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or going to some junkie nightclub
19:43
i think drinking is same as smoking, "safe" self destructive behavior, same as food/sugar addiction U only see results with time
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how is going to a nightclub better, You are still drunking but with people you don't know and far from home 😔
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im just saying, people do what they already know in the self destructive behavior, because they know it's pretty "safe" but i would be damned if i ever went to junkie nightclub
19:47
also to make things straight im not recommending self harm, but to think about what and why, what's even the point? it will only make U feel like shit even more later on
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who cares, that's something that the "you" from the futur will ahve to handle, not you
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weird way of thought, i hate myself for what i did in the past, and what i do in future, but i think i would loathe myself even more if i ever went and did something permanently retarded just because i feel like that now
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honestly Idk xD. Probably to just feel better. I can't (sadly? thanksfully?)talk from experience (edited)
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why wont people just explore new ways of masturbation, which are just as dangerous, putting things here and there, why dont they just buy useless expensive stuff, or as i said do something actually dangerous, i think problem with self harm starts when Ur everyday is exactly the same for years and only seems worse in retrospective, so Ur brain tells U to do something...anything
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bruh bro
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Overlord
or going to some junkie nightclub
I don't have the social skills to go to clubs alone. I write C++
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och U do?
20:00
might i interest U in a source code
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to see if somone fucked up on network packets?
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No. I refuse to look at anymore code. It ruined my life
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might i interest U in woodworking then?
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imo, buy urself some clay, or whatever else and do some manual labour, a pottery, a wooden mushroom statue idk
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but it helps, I dont recommend music or instruments U migth feel even worse thanks to them
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Learath2
No. I refuse to look at anymore code. It ruined my life
But.. but... and my freezeb- troll
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There is no fun for the lonely, only pain and suffering
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im gonna repeat what i always say to people... if U cant be happy by urself, U will only make the person U spend time with miserable too
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can't really agree with that. You maybe be happy with someone but sad when alone
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I get up, I study for courses I don't give three shits about for a dozen hours, play an hour or so of games that are barely fun, sleep, repeat
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you seem to have a problem with perspective
20:12
that's all i can say
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Learath2
I get up, I study for courses I don't give three shits about for a dozen hours, play an hour or so of games that are barely fun, sleep, repeat
I get up, go to work where i just try to pass time, spend time with people that physically disgust me (eating their own fingernails), go home, sleep, wake up, walk the dog, eat, back to sleep, no time/energy for games or hobby
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Perspective is overrated. What does knowing other people that are worse off really bring to the table? I hate living all the same whether there is a starving kid somewhere or not
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im 99.7% sure it's now what @Iza meant with perspective
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i'm not talking about comparing yourself to others
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it's not about who has it worse or better, it's about accepting reality, that it's actually Ur life and U just choose to be unhappy, due to self perservation mechanism, because it's safer to study, than going live in forest alone, (which is more fun but if U break ur ankle U're dead)
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and even then in that forest far from civilization full of free time, U do same shit everyday, get wood, eat, sleep, maybe play some instrument or watch grass grow
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Learath2
I get up, I study for courses I don't give three shits about for a dozen hours, play an hour or so of games that are barely fun, sleep, repeat
our lives are made up of the same whole
20:18
i study german and arabic intensivly
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Overlord
it's not about who has it worse or better, it's about accepting reality, that it's actually Ur life and U just choose to be unhappy, due to self perservation mechanism, because it's safer to study, than going live in forest alone, (which is more fun but if U break ur ankle U're dead)
This is absurd. Who would choose to be unhappy? (edited)
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You do, and increasing amount of population does
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my irl friend, went to study comp science, instead of philosophy (which actually interests him) just because he fears being a wage slave
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guess what, he's unhappy despite achieving results i expect burnout in 10 years
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No one would explicitly choose to be unhappy, you can argue their other decisions ultimately lead to unhappiness but you'd have to be insane to pick unhappiness given the choice
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well are U living Ur life according to Ur choices, or somone's expectations?
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you're indirectly choosing to be unhappy
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and like overlord said, more and more people are like that
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it doesn't have to be your fault, this is a changing world we're living in right now
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Some people chose to be unhappy cause they actually don't know how to be happy 🤷‍♂️
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This is why I hate talking to well adjusted people. Everything is so simple for you with all your perspective
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do i count among the well adjusted? if yes then damn i must be good at putting up facade
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nah we just don't see whole situation and thats why we can't model anything
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to be unhappy it is enough not to do anything and to be alone....
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most of the times I tell people stuff that I don't even follow myself, I don't understand your situation fully but in some ways I can maybe understand you
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actually our words have no sense for you
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If you think anyone on earth actively choses to be unhappy you are out of your mind
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I'm actually talking from the unhappy side. not long ago I had the best day of my life, next day I cried cause I came back to usual daylife. Now I'¡m not changing anything cause I don't know what to do xD
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Learath2
If you think anyone on earth actively choses to be unhappy you are out of your mind
pay attention to my wording, "indirectly"
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If you think people make choices that lead to unhappiness sure, but how could they be blamed for the butterfly effect of their choices 15 steps down the line?
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It's absurd
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How was I supposed to know not being more social almost a decade ago would lead to me being depressed and alone? At some level of indirection there is no choice anymore, it's just randomness
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cause you can always change.I'm in the exact same situation tho
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Learath2
How was I supposed to know not being more social almost a decade ago would lead to me being depressed and alone? At some level of indirection there is no choice anymore, it's just randomness
its really bad to be alone
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Devinci
cause you can always change.I'm in the exact same situation tho
Change what exactly? Say your life is full of regrets, can you go back and fix them?
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-02-20 20:25:47Z
Don't regret and care about what happens at the moment?
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i'm sure you hear this everyday, but part of achieving happiness is to look over your past, and atleast try to look forward
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Learath2
How was I supposed to know not being more social almost a decade ago would lead to me being depressed and alone? At some level of indirection there is no choice anymore, it's just randomness
okay but that was decade ago? for example, i couldnt have any friends all my childhood till i was basically an adult, and that was still a problem, so never ever meeting anyone after school, no friends coming over or going to anyone, ofc I could just forever blame my familly, but i could aswell just fight fears and try, currently my list of friends consists of a guy who was in same school but different classes (hard to tell how we became friends) and a guy i met due to work (a friend of coworker) and now we're friends too.
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
Don't regret and care about what happens at the moment?
Well sure, but can you really logic yourself into that? You wouldn't even have regrets if you didn't care about the past at all
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no, your way of living. start something new. going outside, meet people, etc. But what would I know anyways, I'm not doing any of that x)
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don't do anything in the future that you regret in the past, that's the only solution
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Learath2
Well sure, but can you really logic yourself into that? You wouldn't even have regrets if you didn't care about the past at all
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-02-20 20:27:05Z
I could logic myself into that
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well... the only way of looking past your regrets... it's actually not having them, so that's not really an option x)
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cankick
don't do anything in the future that you regret in the past, that's the only solution
You can live a better life in the future, but if what depresses you is your past and it's effects on your life now, you still can't fix it. You can only make sure it doesn't get worse
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anyway i'm not a psychiatrist but you seem to be stuck in a mental loop, I unfortunately can't help you there
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2023-02-20 20:28:26Z
It's normal to commit errors and you must learn from that, but overthinking it in such a way that you get to feeling bad is just overdoing
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There is no helping me, I'll just wither away here, slowly, hating every single day of it until I become a bitter old man that complains about parking places in the street
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that's... quite pessimistic
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
It's normal to commit errors and you must learn from that, but overthinking it in such a way that you get to feeling bad is just overdoing
Yes, I do this a lot, I think a lot about the mistakes I have made or the things I wish I had said or the things I wish I could change that I never wanted to do in my life.
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i just said "I" can't help you. It doesn't mean that you yourself won't overcome your problems one day, since the only real solution is to help yourself
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cankick
Yes, I do this a lot, I think a lot about the mistakes I have made or the things I wish I had said or the things I wish I could change that I never wanted to do in my life.
I can give you the usual advice, it works for some people. "Don't worry about the past it's in the past and you can't change it"
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Other solution is to get rich, cause money brings happiness 😄
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No, I can tell you there is no happiness in money at all
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Devinci
Other solution is to get rich, cause money brings happiness 😄
thats exactly my mindset lmao
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At some point you'll have acquired everything you want. Unless you are one of those insatiable people, material possessions will just be empty after a while
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Nah, for money to not give happiness means either you aren't spending it correctly or you don't have enough to spend it on hobbies
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Devinci
Other solution is to get rich, cause money brings happiness 😄
Do you really think rich people are happy??? ohh noo
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i agree with devinci
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There is only one truly valuable thing on this earth, it's the connections you make with other people
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cankick
Do you really think rich people are happy??? ohh noo
Vast majority of rich people have always been rich. So they don't know how to "enjoy" nor spending money correctly
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money is never the solution
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Well I guess I won't rob you of your dream 🙂
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Learath2
You can live a better life in the future, but if what depresses you is your past and it's effects on your life now, you still can't fix it. You can only make sure it doesn't get worse
U cant turn back time, i cant go to 2013 and tell myself not to drop c++ to please my mother with school grades, cant tell my 2015 self to not be depressed ass and sleep 11-14h a day for 3 years straight, cant tell my 2019 self to actually read the books i bought and learn something to not end up where i currently am, or 2020 self to not drop chinese/japanese langauge learning, cant go back in time to fix my small brain that after excercises group was disbaneded to just find a new group, but what i can is make amends for some of those now? cant i? ofc it's harder, ofc i beat myself because suddenly time is running out quickly, i get depressed and think if it's even worth doing anything because ultimately it doesnt matter, and i think it's exactly because it doesnt matter, im just a freaking number, that could die from tree dropping on me due to high wind, is why im free, because i finally have to please noone but myself, all my current mistakes are due to myself, but so are achievments, my dreams of cloning items in old game are voided too because i dont enjoy playing it anymore (mostly because "its waste of time"), so since the only other option is to be depressed as fuck, why not just do things at my own pace, or not do them at all, it's all about mindset, and no amount of pills can cure depression, also just so U know, I personally talked with people the same way U do over the years (i would say it took me solid 7 years) and thought there's no hope, but little by little the acceptance of myself fixed it atleast a bit
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sorry for essay!!
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im not readying that
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Devinci
Vast majority of rich people have always been rich. So they don't know how to "enjoy" nor spending money correctly
after a while they will fall into another kind of depression because they can get everything
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you are tired of something? Get a nice week-end at the mountains / go skying / diving etc... get yourself a nice hotel, a nice restaurant (and preferably with 1 or 2 more persons....) that's enough to empty your head
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cankick
after a while they will fall into another kind of depression because they can get everything
nah. The idea isn't to ALWAYS ahve everything. Just do your normal life. then enjoy a few REALLY GOOD moments some holidays, weekend, etc
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Devinci
you are tired of something? Get a nice week-end at the mountains / go skying / diving etc... get yourself a nice hotel, a nice restaurant (and preferably with 1 or 2 more persons....) that's enough to empty your head
On the one hand it's true, but you have to be very rich for that.
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Devinci
you are tired of something? Get a nice week-end at the mountains / go skying / diving etc... get yourself a nice hotel, a nice restaurant (and preferably with 1 or 2 more persons....) that's enough to empty your head
+ people always say when you're rich that you won't have real friends because their just after your money, but that's far from reality since if you're rich you will find like minded people like you that are also rich and just want friends
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Devinci
you are tired of something? Get a nice week-end at the mountains / go skying / diving etc... get yourself a nice hotel, a nice restaurant (and preferably with 1 or 2 more persons....) that's enough to empty your head
when U are actually depressed none of those help, and then U beat urself for even spending money on those since U cant "enjoy them properly"
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Overlord
when U are actually depressed none of those help, and then U beat urself for even spending money on those since U cant "enjoy them properly"
trust me, a nice weekend with friends REALLY helps you clear your mind
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only downside, it costs like 1000 euros for a day if you want something TRULY good 😎
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Devinci
trust me, a nice weekend with friends REALLY helps you clear your mind
not really, especially if U somehow make the mood of the group worse, then U beat urself for saying something or being unable to, or feeling like 5th wheel
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then your company isn't good enough 🤷‍♂️
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Overlord
U cant turn back time, i cant go to 2013 and tell myself not to drop c++ to please my mother with school grades, cant tell my 2015 self to not be depressed ass and sleep 11-14h a day for 3 years straight, cant tell my 2019 self to actually read the books i bought and learn something to not end up where i currently am, or 2020 self to not drop chinese/japanese langauge learning, cant go back in time to fix my small brain that after excercises group was disbaneded to just find a new group, but what i can is make amends for some of those now? cant i? ofc it's harder, ofc i beat myself because suddenly time is running out quickly, i get depressed and think if it's even worth doing anything because ultimately it doesnt matter, and i think it's exactly because it doesnt matter, im just a freaking number, that could die from tree dropping on me due to high wind, is why im free, because i finally have to please noone but myself, all my current mistakes are due to myself, but so are achievments, my dreams of cloning items in old game are voided too because i dont enjoy playing it anymore (mostly because "its waste of time"), so since the only other option is to be depressed as fuck, why not just do things at my own pace, or not do them at all, it's all about mindset, and no amount of pills can cure depression, also just so U know, I personally talked with people the same way U do over the years (i would say it took me solid 7 years) and thought there's no hope, but little by little the acceptance of myself fixed it atleast a bit
Hey, glad it worked out for you. I just don't see it that way. Please no one but yourself, but how? If I could find joy in things I'd just do those and not be depressed, it'd be trivial
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Overlord
when U are actually depressed none of those help, and then U beat urself for even spending money on those since U cant "enjoy them properly"
you have to find out what factors are making you depressed in the first place. And trust me, alot of these factors will vanish with money
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Iza
you have to find out what factors are making you depressed in the first place. And trust me, alot of these factors will vanish with money
i think if i won lottery i would be depressed again, but due to different reasons, like going back to hermit life of just living in front of pc
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if you want to get rid of depression just watch this video for 10 hours
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Devinci
you are tired of something? Get a nice week-end at the mountains / go skying / diving etc... get yourself a nice hotel, a nice restaurant (and preferably with 1 or 2 more persons....) that's enough to empty your head
I have access to enough money to do all of the above, I'm still here sitting in the dark chatting with strangers. You really would be surprised how quickly you get bored of all those material distractions
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Learath2
Hey, glad it worked out for you. I just don't see it that way. Please no one but yourself, but how? If I could find joy in things I'd just do those and not be depressed, it'd be trivial
when i looked at some of my chats, from back then, i could not understand myself either, it's extremely weird because theoretically im same person who wrote all that
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Devinci
you are tired of something? Get a nice week-end at the mountains / go skying / diving etc... get yourself a nice hotel, a nice restaurant (and preferably with 1 or 2 more persons....) that's enough to empty your head
Being rich is not a solution in any way, you just don't have to worry about making ends meet, that's all.
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only swiss people understand, am i right @Devinci
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jk xD
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Iza
you have to find out what factors are making you depressed in the first place. And trust me, alot of these factors will vanish with money
imo U cant find those while U're depressed, sometimes listing these things help, especially when U have a bit better day and check on them
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Learath2
I have access to enough money to do all of the above, I'm still here sitting in the dark chatting with strangers. You really would be surprised how quickly you get bored of all those material distractions
Okay, you got access to them, but do you actually do it? And like I said, I'm not talking about material stuff here. Just enjoying a nice relaxing time doing some cool activity / sport int a beautiful /peaceful place
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Iza
only swiss people understand, am i right @Devinci
I'll tell you when I'll get my first paycheck and stop spending giganormous amounts of money on living 🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹
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Devinci
Okay, you got access to them, but do you actually do it? And like I said, I'm not talking about material stuff here. Just enjoying a nice relaxing time doing some cool activity / sport int a beautiful /peaceful place
Sure, I travel almost all the time, that is one of the few things I still barely enjoy
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Overlord
imo U cant find those while U're depressed, sometimes listing these things help, especially when U have a bit better day and check on them
you can but it's obviously alot harder to find these factors in a depressed state
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I treat myself to stupidly overpriced dinners every once in a while, that is also an indulgence of mine that is still a little enjoyable
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Devinci
I'll tell you when I'll get my first paycheck and stop spending giganormous amounts of money on living 🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹
let me know
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Devinci
I'll tell you when I'll get my first paycheck and stop spending giganormous amounts of money on living 🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹
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Learath2
I treat myself to stupidly overpriced dinners every once in a while, that is also an indulgence of mine that is still a little enjoyable
then go to Nusret
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Learath2
I treat myself to stupidly overpriced dinners every once in a while, that is also an indulgence of mine that is still a little enjoyable
dont U enjoy our company tho?
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how is this different from having real conversations
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I'm only a single step away from proving that unhappiness is not related to any of these things you list
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well, I also added good company... and it's true that only by having money you wont get that... So yeah I guess you are right
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i don't know what that means but we're not here to prove you wrong
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But money REALLYY does help if you don't have it. But as I see it it's not your case
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Learath2
I'm only a single step away from proving that unhappiness is not related to any of these things you list
this sentence really does sound like U choose to be unhappy, to prove point, jk jk
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Devinci
But money REALLYY does help if you don't have it. But as I see it it's not your case
I'm sure, all I'm saying is that it just might not be what you need because you do get bored of it quite quickly, unless I guess you enjoy the act of buying stuff itself
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Devinci
But money REALLYY does help if you don't have it. But as I see it it's not your case
Its helps when your depression is based of that .
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everytime i have a conversation about money and depression it feels like a deja vu (edited)
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Ama
Its helps when your depression is based of that .
it's almost always related to that... Every person I've met that had problems was because they stayed too much at home / did drugs. Money gives you the means to go outside
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Iza
everytime i have a conversation about money and depression it feels like a deja vu (edited)
💸 💸 💸 💸 💸 💸 💸
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Devinci
it's almost always related to that... Every person I've met that had problems was because they stayed too much at home / did drugs. Money gives you the means to go outside
Doing drugs costs a lot of money haha
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Ama
Its helps when your depression is based of that .
true financial instabilities sucks balls.
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lots money = shit
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Iza
everytime i have a conversation about money and depression it feels like a deja vu (edited)
because we're living in a simulation, this convo already happend a few times, but unbeknownst to all, subconsious of learath might actually change
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Ama
Doing drugs costs a lot of money haha
okay yeah, but as I sais a while ago (when the convo started) You either don't ahve enough money or just don't know how to spend it correctly. it would be the latter here
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I have a friend that is the exact antithesis of this entire conversation. The guy has enough money to buy me yet he is an absolute mess, don't think I've ever seen him happy
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Devinci
okay yeah, but as I sais a while ago (when the convo started) You either don't ahve enough money or just don't know how to spend it correctly. it would be the latter here
wait till U start fearing people and stuff BECAUSE U have a lot of money
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Overlord
wait till U start fearing people and stuff BECAUSE U have a lot of money
I hope I'll have enough money for that xD. But I'm reallyy not social anyways so doubt
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Learath2
I have a friend that is the exact antithesis of this entire conversation. The guy has enough money to buy me yet he is an absolute mess, don't think I've ever seen him happy
bruh, money (unless U're really struggling to live) cannot make a person happy, these same people who hate their everyday job, and "Wasting life there" granted 300mln $ might not know what to do with themselves, with all that free time, then ofc indulgence would start and later on, nothing would provide them happy chemicals, because they dont have to work for anything / can have anything instantly
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traveling would become dull, good food would be just food
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Learath2
I have a friend that is the exact antithesis of this entire conversation. The guy has enough money to buy me yet he is an absolute mess, don't think I've ever seen him happy
share 👉 👈 /s
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Anyway, there is only one thing I don't have in this life and that is a gf. If that doesn't work either then I'll conclude that some people are just wired to be unhappy
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Will cross that bridge when I get to it
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Why do I feel like we are restarting the chat from zero 😰
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Until then I'll just wither away here, playing silly games
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Learath2
Anyway, there is only one thing I don't have in this life and that is a gf. If that doesn't work either then I'll conclude that some people are just wired to be unhappy
once U find some, dont end like *[redacted] guy from kog, who went and tried to kill himself when they split (edited)
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Learath2
Anyway, there is only one thing I don't have in this life and that is a gf. If that doesn't work either then I'll conclude that some people are just wired to be unhappy
Anything you would want to change in your life ?
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Ama
Anything you would want to change in your life ?
he wants to be happy, duh
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Learath2
Anyway, there is only one thing I don't have in this life and that is a gf. If that doesn't work either then I'll conclude that some people are just wired to be unhappy
a gf wont help if you don't fix yourself first 😉
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what scares me about this is that I could perfectly become like Learath in 5-10 years D:
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Overlord
he wants to be happy, duh
That is an emotion and not something he wants haha
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Chairn
a gf wont help if you don't fix yourself first 😉
someone else can help you A LOT
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it can, but it's a huge burden on them
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and you just pass the pain to someone else instead of solving your issues
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Ama
That is an emotion and not something he wants haha
it's actually what he wants 99%, to be in state of happiness, but it's a goal U cant achieve, that's why there are so many memes "i dont want to be horny, but happy
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Overlord
once U find some, dont end like *[redacted] guy from kog, who went and tried to kill himself when they split (edited)
No, I promise, if that won't work I'll find something to live for, I'll just brainwash myself into being a neoliberal and get pleasure from money and the accumulation of it
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Chairn
a gf wont help if you don't fix yourself first 😉
@Devinci will argue against it, but i support that, U will only drain the other person
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not if you keep your burdens to yourself. The other person can just help you enjoy the time you spend with him/her
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Chairn
a gf wont help if you don't fix yourself first 😉
that's very situational but often true
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Ama
Anything you would want to change in your life ?
Am I allowed to go back in time? If so I'm going back 6 years and going to uni lectures from the first year. Or a decade back and never learning C++
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Is c++ that bad???
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Learath2
No, I promise, if that won't work I'll find something to live for, I'll just brainwash myself into being a neoliberal and get pleasure from money and the accumulation of it
worst part is when the other person is with U just out of convenience, reminds me of those political marraiges
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Learath2
Am I allowed to go back in time? If so I'm going back 6 years and going to uni lectures from the first year. Or a decade back and never learning C++
Who stops you from stopping to program ?
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I may want to stop learning it 😰
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Learath2
Am I allowed to go back in time? If so I'm going back 6 years and going to uni lectures from the first year. Or a decade back and never learning C++
meanwhile i would kill to go decade back and keep on learning C++, funny
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Learath2
Am I allowed to go back in time? If so I'm going back 6 years and going to uni lectures from the first year. Or a decade back and never learning C++
well, i skipped lectures from first year university. Then i did the same the year after and i lost 2 years in total. But then i restarted from scratch at 1st year (different) university and now im a phd 🙂 (edited)
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so you can always restart where you want
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it's funny how people always say "don't turn your passion into a job"
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Devinci
what scares me about this is that I could perfectly become like Learath in 5-10 years D:
If you are about 15 you are right on track. I thought money would make me happy, I didn't need any relationships, I would just travel around, eat good, hang out with my friends
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there's a problem in that sentence 😄
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Learath2
If you are about 15 you are right on track. I thought money would make me happy, I didn't need any relationships, I would just travel around, eat good, hang out with my friends
nah, 20
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Learath2
If you are about 15 you are right on track. I thought money would make me happy, I didn't need any relationships, I would just travel around, eat good, hang out with my friends
Friends in adult life 🤣🤣🤣
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Ama
Who stops you from stopping to program ?
Too late, you can never forget, it's a curse
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don't need any relationships, ..., hang out with friends
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Learath2
If you are about 15 you are right on track. I thought money would make me happy, I didn't need any relationships, I would just travel around, eat good, hang out with my friends
haha when those friends dont have money / strict jobs U cant reach them at all, ach the wage cage gotta love it :v
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Chairn
don't need any relationships, ..., hang out with friends
I distinguish between (romantic) relationships and friendships. I refuse to submit to the unified theory of social interaction
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well, friends are relation ships (etymologicly)
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platonic ones though
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" unified theory of social interaction" xDDDD
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what's that
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hey guys, we all forgot to propose, "find god in ur life :-)" where are my theists friends at?!
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Devinci
nah, 20
You may have made it over the hump maybe you can just be permahappy with only money
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actually i think joning a sect would help a lot, plenty of social interactions, "grand purpose" feeling of fitting in
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Chairn
well, i skipped lectures from first year university. Then i did the same the year after and i lost 2 years in total. But then i restarted from scratch at 1st year (different) university and now im a phd 🙂 (edited)
I don't actually care about the learning, I can do that on my own, I just want more friends
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Overlord
actually i think joning a sect would help a lot, plenty of social interactions, "grand purpose" feeling of fitting in
uff worst idea ever 😄
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Learath2
I don't actually care about the learning, I can do that on my own, I just want more friends
U can get them anywhere or not get them at all, U might end in a situation where U think U're friends with somone, but they're just using U to pass subjects, or U're just friends in that specific settings, because U're the least unlikeable person to that guy
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Iza
it's funny how people always say "don't turn your passion into a job"
Funnily enough my father always says the exact opposite
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Learath2
I don't actually care about the learning, I can do that on my own, I just want more friends
Are you doing something to actually get more friends ? Or staying in home and traveling alone
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can we open a "looking for friends on the #looking-for-group
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i think he means irl friends
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Chairn
uff worst idea ever 😄
U sure? i heard it actually works because of these reasons
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i mean gaining sect members
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Chairn
i think he means irl friends
yeah, maybe I'll find someone who lives nearby...
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yeah, sect definetely wont solve any problems, only agraves them
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how much are we in this discord? 10000? may do it
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Chairn
yeah, sect definetely wont solve any problems, only agraves them
been in one yet?
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no, does that disprove my point?
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bruh, nobody wants to be friends with random people, it's like tinder but for friends, U will feel "weird"
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Well, friendships start somewhere don't they?
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Chairn
no, does that disprove my point?
i know atleast 3 people who have been, and one of them nearly died, because they were eating sun, hilarious, but the sectleader had real integrity and died :v
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it's like talking to strangers, idk
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I think adult friendships are really hard to make .
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Overlord
i know atleast 3 people who have been, and one of them nearly died, because they were eating sun, hilarious, but the sectleader had real integrity and died :v
so... you are proving his point right?
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i mean they were all happy for the duration of being part of the group
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Devinci
what's that
There is this theory that all social interactions are equal and they satisfy your social needs. I say NO
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atleast it wasnt a scam... but real belief
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yeah definitely no
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Learath2
There is this theory that all social interactions are equal and they satisfy your social needs. I say NO
finally some sensible words
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Ama
Are you doing something to actually get more friends ? Or staying in home and traveling alone
I sort of gave up on it, mostly because I don't even know where the fuck to find them. I joined a club or 3. I frequented bars, I went to lectures
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Ama
I think adult friendships are really hard to make .
how are they different of childhood ones? I would actually say they're more real
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Learath2
I sort of gave up on it, mostly because I don't even know where the fuck to find them. I joined a club or 3. I frequented bars, I went to lectures
you don't just need to go, you're not a motherfucking statue. You need to talk to them 😉
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Learath2
I sort of gave up on it, mostly because I don't even know where the fuck to find them. I joined a club or 3. I frequented bars, I went to lectures
Yeah lectures the Best way to find friends 🤣
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Overlord
how are they different of childhood ones? I would actually say they're more real
well... when you are a child it's wayy easier to make contacts....
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People just aren't looking for friends after the first couple months of anything. Whether it be work or uni or whatever
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Learath2
I sort of gave up on it, mostly because I don't even know where the fuck to find them. I joined a club or 3. I frequented bars, I went to lectures
places to meet friends: 1. at other friends, 2. culinary lessons, 3. martial arts (boxing, whatever), 4. work/university they dont have to be in Ur class
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I cant say much i dont really have friends but just took my gf Brother As my bestfriend 🤣🤣🤣
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You acquire 2-3 "friends" and you just stop hiring
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Overlord
places to meet friends: 1. at other friends, 2. culinary lessons, 3. martial arts (boxing, whatever), 4. work/university they dont have to be in Ur class
1. bootstrapping problem, 2. NO, 3. never tried, 4. only the first month or so and you cant go back in time
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if u lived in barcelona i would hang out
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and even the first weeks... you still need to be a bit social....
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so it's not that easy either
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no, it still works in the middle of the year
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Learath2
1. bootstrapping problem, 2. NO, 3. never tried, 4. only the first month or so and you cant go back in time
about 4th i wont agree, first month people just form groups and realise they often dont fit in certain group and float somewhere else
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just ask questions on how to do X problem
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eat with them also
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stalk them, hear them talking about dragonball, then say something, they wont just randomly ignore U, boom temporary friendship now just need to soldify it
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Well, you need to eat with them, and engage a conversation with them. And when you are complete strangers it may be a bit weird...
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U guys are way too ahead, i would say eating with them is already atleast middle level of friendship
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just make ddnet con and we can all become learath friends there
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Ryozuki
just make ddnet con and we can all become learath friends there
for 1 day*
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i feel like if people meet irl it changes ur view
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u no longer view the other as an avatar image
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Ryozuki
i feel like if people meet irl it changes ur view
i mean he wants physical friends, no way im staying in turkey longer than required
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People Talking about how to get friends on discord . This is just peak
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i think he lives in italy
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Ryozuki
just make ddnet con and we can all become learath friends there
I support ddnet con
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Ama
People Talking about how to get friends on discord . This is just peak
and ur here bruv
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Ryozuki
i think he lives in italy
tbh i have two internet friends, and U dont need to meet them, but after knowing them for so long i really do want to, but jobs became problems...
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Overlord
tbh i have two internet friends, and U dont need to meet them, but after knowing them for so long i really do want to, but jobs became problems...
yeah
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but if u meet them irl it changes
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im sure
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Ryozuki
u no longer view the other as an avatar image
damn, imagine Ryozuki is a tall bearded guy and not a skinny girl. Won't ever be the same to talk to you 😄 (edited)
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Chairn
damn, imagine Ryozuki is a tall bearded guy and not a skinny girl. Won't ever be the same to talk to you 😄 (edited)
he already changed avatar, and i thought it was somone else
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Chairn
damn, imagine Ryozuki is a tall bearded guy and not a skinny girl. Won't ever be the same to talk to you 😄 (edited)
u arent a bear?
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depends
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Ryozuki
u arent a bear?
might be just a fursuit U never know
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Overlord
he already changed avatar, and i thought it was somone else
and ur pfp looks like a kid
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xd
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what's your definition of bear?
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that's because of Sorah 😄
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Ryozuki
and ur pfp looks like a kid
pepeH
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dont worry, im defienietly not honeypot
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Overlord
about 4th i wont agree, first month people just form groups and realise they often dont fit in certain group and float somewhere else
Groups split up, they don't become free-agents
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Ryozuki
u arent a bear?
You know thats how fat hairy gays call themselfs ?
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Is that really a thing?
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Learath2
Groups split up, they don't become free-agents
idk happend to me after first two months in technican higschool, man, U're really similar to my irl friend.... U think U can trick me with that Turkey thing HUH?
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nvm I shouldn't have googled that
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JONATHAN!!!!
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Devinci
nvm I shouldn't have googled that
what did U google?
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fat hairy gays bear
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wanted to fact check
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Ama
You know thats how fat hairy gays call themselfs ?
im hairy, but not fat (yet)
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btw it's all fun and games talking here, but bet if we met irl it would be just awkward silence
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I know that because someone my gf worked with was gay and was starting in some Mister bear event haha
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obviously, mixing people from 15 to 30 isn't going anywhere anyway
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Chairn
obviously, mixing people from 15 to 30 isn't going anywhere anyway
idk, actually i think after 20, the age difference doesnt matter that much
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Overlord
idk, actually i think after 20, the age difference doesnt matter that much
i would say up to 15 years
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Overlord
btw it's all fun and games talking here, but bet if we met irl it would be just awkward silence
I think some People would talk and most People would be silent As their spoken english is about 20% what their written english is
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Chairn
obviously, mixing people from 15 to 30 isn't going anywhere anyway
you would be surprised. Where I study ages go from 18 to +60, 10 years isn't THAT much
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Ama
I think some People would talk and most People would be silent As their spoken english is about 20% what their written english is
is this personal attack?! (cries in unintelligible english)
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Ama
I think some People would talk and most People would be silent As their spoken english is about 20% what their written english is
facts
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Ryozuki
i would say up to 15 years
idk, at previous work everyone was older than me by 10 years and another guy by 22, felt a bit like uncle but we still send each other memes
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Its just pretty much what I know from when I was younger and didnt speak 4 languages I was always afraid of being jugded
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weird flex
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still, U guys are a helpful bunch, wonder if it's because it's a small community, or the randomness of characters
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no really that random... I've noticed a BIG part of the commity is somewhat involved with code
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what code? didnt U hear c++ ruins people?
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sounds like Terry A. Davis all over again
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ANd here we are
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in my defense, i only ever programemd a simple macro, that moves mouse and presses button
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so dont lump me in the bag with YOU PEOPLE (edited)
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well, you touched code didn't you? 😎
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yea, but it didnt touch me, like it did @Learath2
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I hope we atleast prevented him from getting hella drunk
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idk, i don't see getting drunk once in a while THAT bad. next time I'm touching alcohol I'll prollly do it
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Devinci
idk, i don't see getting drunk once in a while THAT bad. next time I'm touching alcohol I'll prollly do it
it's healthy to drink a glass of non sweet wine every now and then, but no matter with what U get drunk it's never good for organs :v
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I sadly lack the required skillset to hit on women, this is the reason you must not engage with computers and especially C++ in your teens
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well, they seems more direct, so you just gotta ask 😄
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Learath2
I sadly lack the required skillset to hit on women, this is the reason you must not engage with computers and especially C++ in your teens
You dont hit on them . You just hit them 🤣
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Learath2
I sadly lack the required skillset to hit on women, this is the reason you must not engage with computers and especially C++ in your teens
just use any blunt object, like U would normally
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When they wake up 30 seconds later you are done anyways
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Ama
You dont hit on them . You just hit them 🤣
Sadly I don't fit in with the womenhater crowd either. I'm just a factory defect
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Icelandic people kinda not fun, a lot of them speak english but don't want to speak english with tourists
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Ama
When they wake up 30 seconds later you are done anyways
problems only start, when U're so ugly they actually remember Ur face :/
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Icelandic people kinda not fun, a lot of them speak english but don't want to speak english with tourists
Seems like france
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Learath2
Sadly I don't fit in with the womenhater crowd either. I'm just a factory defect
was it woman hate crowd? not play on words crowd?
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Also depressed people cause no sun
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and smelly water, cause sulfur
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Haven't been there, just know someone who now lives there
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Learath2
Sadly I don't fit in with the womenhater crowd either. I'm just a factory defect
stop pushing yourself down. Self deprecation doesn't help
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yea, he can hate on women like anyone else!
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Learath2
Sadly I don't fit in with the womenhater crowd either. I'm just a factory defect
I mean you can programm might not be that far from mixing some ghb
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sorry for the influx of pictures with words on them* (edited)
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has anyone here ever had real therapist?
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Ama
I mean you can programm might not be that far from mixing some ghb
ghb into my own drink so I can sleep life off
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Ryozuki
Click to see attachment 🖼️
achshually goals
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Learath2
ghb into my own drink so I can sleep life off
what did U do for fun in the past?
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Overlord
has anyone here ever had real therapist?
depends what you call therapist
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@Learath2 did you try looking and laughing at other dumb people? Quite helpful imo
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what did U do for fun in the past?
I used to play games until I understood the prime directive of life, everything except the pursuit of an SO is pointless
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@Learath2 did you try looking and laughing at other dumb people? Quite helpful imo
I find it hard to laugh at people I consider dumb. most of the time I just get angry
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well, at least you're not angry at you anymore
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5Head (edited)
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Chairn
depends what you call therapist
a certified guy to prescribe "head drugs"
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Learath2
I used to play games until I understood the prime directive of life, everything except the pursuit of an SO is pointless
ok anything else?
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a certified guy to prescribe "head drugs"
then that's not a therapist, that's a doctor
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no, atleast where i live therapist can perscribe those, along with doctor's not to not attend work, i think U think more of somone like counsellor who is enterierly useless
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Learath2
I used to play games until I understood the prime directive of life, everything except the pursuit of an SO is pointless
what U gonna do once U acquire SO? since U dont have any hobbies and do nothing for fun or urself, i think it might lead to trouble
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Overlord
what U gonna do once U acquire SO? since U dont have any hobbies and do nothing for fun or urself, i think it might lead to trouble
I have hobbies, I just don't derive any fun from them anymore, there is a difference
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Overlord
no, atleast where i live therapist can perscribe those, along with doctor's not to not attend work, i think U think more of somone like counsellor who is enterierly useless
A psychiatrist can prescribe drugs, a psychologist/therapist cant
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a pursuit outside one's regular occupation engaged in especially for relaxation ~~ defitnion Anyway, as somone who observed my sister's relationship through 5 year long period, with a boy who was not depressed but did nothing interesting just worked, ate, slept, sometimes played, it did lead to frustration and breakup, and now that im talking with her, the main problems are that despite living together for so long, she didn't know anything about what he liked, he didnt do anything interesting on his own, she had to come up with everything and felt like GF and mother at same time
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Learath2
A psychiatrist can prescribe drugs, a psychologist/therapist cant
over here in trolland, both can do that
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Learath2
A psychiatrist can prescribe drugs, a psychologist/therapist cant
psychologist is for milder cases, but that doesnt change his ability to prescribe stuff
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trolland is weird
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how else would it be trolland? if it was normal
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Overlord
no, atleast where i live therapist can perscribe those, along with doctor's not to not attend work, i think U think more of somone like counsellor who is enterierly useless
well, in France, if the person can prescribes drugs, he's a doctor (psychiatrist) otherwise just a psychologist or any other denomination
21:46
did you try rioting?
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imagine rioting, no U dont riot here, U just say how bad it is and do nothing about it, while they fuck U in the ass, sometimes go to another country to work, then comeback because trolland syndrome (same as stockholm one)
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Chairn
@Learath2 did you try looking and laughing at other dumb people? Quite helpful imo
It is fun, not very helpful though, I still hate existence with a passion
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but you do forget it for a few minutes, no?
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Chairn
did you try rioting?
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Chairn
but you do forget it for a few minutes, no?
I guess, but that doesn't make getting up in the morning any easier
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Learath2
It is fun, not very helpful though, I still hate existence with a passion
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you just need dopamine, laughing releases dopamine
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dopamine is temporal tho
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have you consulted a doctor?
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Chairn
you just need dopamine, laughing releases dopamine
less and less of it though, your laughs feel more and more empty
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@Learath2 forced laughter, nor trying to trick urself that U're happy that U breathe, nor forced smiling will help (atleast didnt help me)
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forced laughter can help
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Chairn
forced laughter can help
i felt even worse after it, knowing full well that it's not real and im just trying to trick myself
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that's the thing, if you do it correctly, it releases dopamine and it's not a trick anymore
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what can i say...
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it's just two sides of same coin
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and just like izanagi said, all depends on perspective
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Chairn
have you consulted a doctor?
I did once upon a time, it's not as effective as people make it out to be
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I sometimes get so high i cant stop laughing and I start laugh crying and I dont know if im crying or laughing at the end
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Learath2
I did once upon a time, it's not as effective as people make it out to be
for extended period or just one visit
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Just one, SSRI's are just creepy, I can't live with that much serotonin floating around
21:55
SSRI?
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yea... i gotta say they're scary, my dog was taking them for 2-3 months, i wouldnt let anyone give me that (as long as im not bound)
21:55
i like my suffering raw
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did the doctor prescribe you any drug?
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Chairn
SSRI?
basically, the little happines U get, they recycle it
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and recycle and recycle
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Chairn
did the doctor prescribe you any drug?
an SSRI yes
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funniest thing is first 2-3 weeks of taking them make people feel even worse
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okay, i had that drug for like a whole year
21:56
or 2
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i like my suffering RAW
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how long did you take it?
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did you see a therapist in the mean time?
21:57
drug itself is just a helper, you still need to do part of the work
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U know what guys, learath ran away, but i really do want to understand, so i will start learning c++ starting tomorrow
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I'm playing league of legends with my dear friends to stave off the pain of existance
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sounds like fun to me
22:11
still wont change my mind, c++ it is, gonna finally get past hello world
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Learath2
I'm playing league of legends with my dear friends to stave off the pain of existance
Im on a 18h bus ride to germany just waiting for the next stop to pop a xani and go to sleep
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couldnt sleep with strangers in a bus
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Overlord
still wont change my mind, c++ it is, gonna finally get past hello world
do you want to die a lonely death?
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no, but i do want to reverse engineer certain applications that are no longer in use
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so why pay somone, if i could do it myself (in 5-50 years ) and i think low level languages would be the best start
22:26
also i already went half bald and look terrible, so it's either going full bald and getting muscles, or being rich to find anyone...
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Overlord
no, but i do want to reverse engineer certain applications that are no longer in use
Ask chatgpt to do it
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to do what? also i dont think that would be any fun, nor satysfying
22:30
+ i really want to know if, a skill could give somone depression, hard to believe
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Im joking 🤣
22:30
Premature ejaculation is a skill that can lead to depression
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U can train Ur PC muscle tho, it apparently helps
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No idea dont have that problem . 🤣
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U can have, as everything in the world it can go both ways :-v
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