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08:21

fenatichd from virgin mnet :D fanatichd (fanatichd@cpc76960-warw17-2-0-cust137.3-2.cable.virginm.net) has joined #ddnet

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09:00

same error but it says ipv4

i try open dmz and not working

09:12

wait

i got this error too yesterday im using linux, although i let firewall, it didnt work

WarHammer

i got this error too yesterday im using linux, although i let firewall, it didnt work

i fix this error

do u use windows?

WarHammer

do u use windows?

i used linux but now windows

u fixed right ?

yes

09:13

now i fixed

How

09:13

i used to open servers but now it dont work

wait my english bad i forgot a word

09:13

ill translate

09:14

Allow ddnet.exe from firewall

:)

09:14

Linux

09:14

And i let on linux too

and create a new entry rule

WarHammer

And i let on linux too

i remember linux has a firewall

Ye

okay

09:15

how i did forgot

ok bro dont mind, thank you for help

no

09:16

ill help

09:16

im looking

No its okay i dont have to open server

Create the new arrivals from firewall

09:16

name is ddnet port or something

09:17

allow

i already did

and write 8303(ddnet port)

09:17

select udp

WarHammer

i already did

uh

09:17

try open dmz

09:17

on your router

09:17

if dont work close

ill try

okay

how can i choose my server location Turkey

lul i think one can modify the client to send 9 less bytes when only walking around without breaking server compatibility

how can i ban people on my server console says ban s[ip|id] ?i[minutes] r[reason]

10:37

how i can take people ip

10:37

i cant

10:37

i write nickname says invalid ip|id

10:37

anybody can sent example ban text

Instead of the name you write their id

how i can their id

10:46

idk

10:47

i need find their id

"status" in rcon shows both id and IP (ip only if show_ips is 1)

how

10:49

i dont understand

status

10:50

type that in console

i need write status

10:50

okay

10:50

thanks

For IDs: cl_show_ids 1

10:50

in f1

its look 0 1 2 3 4

10:50

right?

This will show IDs in chat and scoreboard

10:50

Ayes

10:50

That's id

ayo thanks bro

test

ChillerDragon

lul i think one can modify the client to send 9 less bytes when only walking around without breaking server compatibility

You bring me to ideas. Are these bytes unecessary? Animation maybe?

No the bytes are not unecessary they are used for hook/fire/weapon state etc

14:03

but if you only want to update your direction you should be able to only send that. And the vanilla client always sends all inputs even the ones that were unchanged.

14:04

but the client also sends a size field and the server only reads in size amount of inputs and direction is the first

https://blog.rust-lang.org/2023/01/20/types-announcement.html cool news

Officially announcing the types team | Rust Blog

Empowering everyone to build reliable and efficient software.

5 days ago :p

ok I'm slow

wow types

i posted it

14:38

next time grep me kek

14:39

but its good to know u follow rust news

14:39

slowly converting

14:39

cool project:

14:39

https://github.com/pdeljanov/Symphonia

GitHub - pdeljanov/Symphonia: Pure Rust multimedia format demuxing,...

Pure Rust multimedia format demuxing, tag reading, and audio decoding library - GitHub - pdeljanov/Symphonia: Pure Rust multimedia format demuxing, tag reading, and audio decoding library

da rust cult

14:48

ffmpeg in rust when?

did someone build a max limit of skins in the last version?

14:49

i got a message who says he cant start the client because he has near 1k skins

The only maximum is your hardware limits

https://blog.yoshuawuyts.com/capabilities-1/

Capability-Safety I: Prelude

14:57

interesting concept

Jupstar ✪

The only maximum is your hardware limits

ok, weird. he can play with it but since the new update he just can use close to 100 because only 4k skins and gpu say out of vram

How I can take blue tick

15:46

On my server

u cant

Daniel

ok, weird. he can play with it but since the new update he just can use close to 100 because only 4k skins and gpu say out of vram

Why does he need 4k skins on full hd monitor?

15:49

4k skins are for 32k monitor

15:49

U can use 7000 skins with 2gb vram targeting full hd

15:50

Except a very few exceptions all ppl have this

yea i know

i dont do this but i try to explain it to him

Ryozuki

u cant

Why

15:58

Every server on turkey has blue tick

https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/12/13/compute-is-easy-memory-is-harder-and-harder/

Timothy Prickett Morgan

Compute Is Easy, Memory Is Harder And Harder

What good is a floating point operation embodied in a vector or matrix unit if you can’t get data into fast enough to actually use the compute engine to

And still memory scales much better than(esp) single core performance, which is still required by most apps

@Jupstar ✪ do you know how take blue tick

you cant xd only official servers

lalala soytari 卍

@Jupstar ✪ do you know how take blue tick

Make your mod open source and let ddnet host it

how i can open source

Github

16:07

Gitlab

okay than ill ddnet host it right?

16:07

idk how ddnet host my server

Maybe. I'm not related to ddnet org

lalala soytari 卍

idk how ddnet host my server

.

bencie

you cant xd only official servers

i wanna be official

Ask an admin I guess

@Learath2

16:09

can you help me

16:09

i wanna let ddnet host it but idk how its that i make

Jupstar ✪

Except a very few exceptions all ppl have this

btw the problem is since 16.7 older versions like 16.5 running fine like we tested now together. is it maybe a problem since rust is implemented?

@lalala soytari 卍

16:28

Türk müsün?

evet

16:28

Xd

16:28

Konusmandan tahmin ettim

16:28

Ne yapmak istiyorsun

16:28

Sunucunla ilgili

mavi tik almak için ddnet'in hostingini kullanmak

Neden mavi tik istiyorsun ki

onaylanınca

turkish → #off-topic

sunucuyu adamlar host ediyor

16:29

sorry

@Ryozuki why you bored?

that was my mood when i wrote that

16:30

but well im often bored

16:30

thats life

16:30

why? xd

dunno. I read it and was wondering why

Jupstar ✪

Make your mod open source and let ddnet host it

It’s not a mod, he is hosting a normal ddnet server. Why would we host that?

Learath2

It’s not a mod, he is hosting a normal ddnet server. Why would we host that?

the whole convo is confusion cuz bad english

And I’m not in the mood to talk turkish

racist lerato

le

Daniel

btw the problem is since 16.7 older versions like 16.5 running fine like we tested now together. is it maybe a problem since rust is implemented?

no its bcs vulkan is default backend, which doesnt allow going over your VRAM limits and ddnet loads all skins at start, no lazy loading

16:55

but its a good way to finally get rid of all these 4k textures

16:55

sad that they spread at all

Jupstar ✪

And still memory scales much better than(esp) single core performance, which is still required by most apps

what you mean with "scale"? Because you seem to compare multiple memory devices with a single core

Chairn

what you mean with "scale"? Because you seem to compare multiple memory devices with a single core

the article sounds like it wants to say we slowly reach the limits of memory capabilities

which is not the case in your opinion?

but i only read like 5 setences, because then my attention span for such articles is over

it's not the capacity the issue, it's bandwidth and latency

Chairn

which is not the case in your opinion?

yeah i think we are still pretty far away, ofc that doesnt mean it will not get slower (e.g. slow bus speed / more latency)

Jupstar ✪

no its bcs vulkan is default backend, which doesnt allow going over your VRAM limits and ddnet loads all skins at start, no lazy loading

ahh this could be the solution for his problem. but yea good point to do it now do get rid of it.... the problem is there will be more and more people who want it and use it not less

Chairn

it's not the capacity the issue, it's bandwidth and latency

but usually u dont need all your memory at once tho, did the article give an example?

Daniel

ahh this could be the solution for his problem. but yea good point to do it now do get rid of it.... the problem is there will be more and more people who want it and use it not less

but for what exactly do they want it. where does their desire come from?

17:05

4k skins dont solve any problem

17:05

they are as said for 32k monitors

17:05

i never seen a 32k monitor in my life

i dont know its just like that xD i dont use 4k skins

u have to understand that most GPUs are simply not build for this the texture might live in very unoptimal buffers on the VRAM

17:06

it can create laggs / less performance, in worst case regular stuttering

Jupstar ✪

but usually u dont need all your memory at once tho, did the article give an example?

simple math kernels are enough to reach bandwidth and latency limits, meaning the cpu is idle for a good portion of time

17:07

bunny hopping in graph structure is also a way to reach those limits

Chairn

simple math kernels are enough to reach bandwidth and latency limits, meaning the cpu is idle for a good portion of time

so whats the solution? better software?

17:08

i mean it was the case in 1990 too

nah, wasn't the case in 1990

17:09

that's what the guys says

17:10

better software and/or better architecture

Chairn

better software and/or better architecture

so apple like architectures

17:10

where everything lives close to each other

maybe, i don't know apple architectures

17:10

im more into pear reviewed architectures

everything that has an advantage also has a disadvantage probably if u put everything under one soc u probs have a harder time to get heat away

17:11

so you cannot clock to 7ghz or whatever ddr5 and new intels clock nowadays xd

Chairn

im more into pear reviewed architectures

@Zwelf Are you available to help with https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/6304 ?

I'll take a look. If I don't find anything, we can also take it out again for now.

17:32

which maps are the crashes on?`

Zwelf

which maps are the crashes on?`

The most recent one was on FarLands https://ddnet.org/maps/FarLands

ok, could reproduce. will fix

Thanks!

@deen I'm not familiar with your workflow yet, do I need to do anything else with my PR, or should I wait for approval from someone?

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6307 Fix map check excluded warnings in CI

Due to changes in wording of the error messages, some of the twmap-check-ddnet warnings were no longer suppressed. Closes #6305.

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that ...

17:49

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6308 Fix Crash in CSafeTeam::Safe/Load

Fixes #6304 pEnt is freed after removing, so must not be used in the next loop iteration.

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested th...

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

79e6518 Fix map check excluded warnings in CI - Robyt3 ee834ad Merge #6307 - bors[bot]

18:23

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6305 Map check in CI fails

18:23

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6307 Fix map check excluded warnings in CI

Hello what is the function of this?

MACRO_CONFIG_STR(ClMapDownloadUrl, cl_map_download_url, 100, "https://maps.ddnet.org", CFGFLAG_CLIENT | CFGFLAG_SAVE, "URL used to download maps (can start with http:// or https://)")
MACRO_CONFIG_INT(ClMapDownloadConnectTimeoutMs, cl_map_download_connect_timeout_ms, 2000, 0, 100000, CFGFLAG_CLIENT | CFGFLAG_SAVE, "HTTP map downloads: timeout for the connect phase in milliseconds (0 to disable)")
MACRO_CONFIG_INT(ClMapDownloadLowSpeedLimit, cl_map_download_low_speed_limit, 4000, 0, 100000, CFGFLAG_CLIENT | CFGFLAG_SAVE, "HTTP map downloads: Set low speed limit in bytes per second (0 to disable)")
MACRO_CONFIG_INT(ClMapDownloadLowSpeedTime, cl_map_download_low_speed_time, 3, 0, 100000, CFGFLAG_CLIENT | CFGFLAG_SAVE, "HTTP map downloads: Set low speed limit time period (0 to disable)")

18:50

Map is downloaded from the server

18:51

@heinrich5991

It checks the download url first to use faster map download via http instead of the game server sending it via the teeworlds protocol

18:52

if the download url serves the map it uses it if not it falls back to the vanilla download

18:54

Yo bois I did my first run through documenting all system messages of the 0.7 protocol any feedback to the layout or content? Suggestions? https://chillerdragon.github.io/teeworlds-protocol/07/system_messages.html

18:54

@heinrich5991 @Learath2 @Robyt3 ^ :p

@Robyt3 was not pinged I pinged him now (edited)

ty

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

010d545 Fix Crash in CSafeTeam::Safe/Load - Zwelf cf32aa9 Merge #6308 - bors[bot]

19:00

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6304 Crash in CSaveTeam::Save

19:00

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6308 Fix Crash in CSafeTeam::Safe/Load

Chairn

im more into pear reviewed architectures

Im dumb and get it now, i thought it was a typo for peer but its just cuz apple's apple

19:10

facepalm

@Ryozuki either its a client side bug, or the skin registering is extremly unreliable so many servers dont have the information

19:53

it regulary fails to fetch it even on server that had it previously

hmm

20:00

its weird

20:00

but only updated ddnet servers report it

20:00

maybe somehow the function is not being called sometimes? xd

but i am 99% sure it also happened on a server that showed skins then suddenly not anymore

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6309 Add buttons to move envelopes left and right, improve envelope UI layout, add tooltips for editboxes

Screenshots:

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After:

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Before:

After:

![1080p_2 new](https://use...

Jupstar ✪

@Ryozuki either its a client side bug, or the skin registering is extremly unreliable so many servers dont have the information

yes, it's definitely unreliable. The servers have long been updated but still don't show skin

[ddnet:master] 14 new commits

c86ef06 Add tooltip support for editboxes in editor - Robyt3 5b61691 Pass nullptr to CUIRect functions when result is unused - Robyt3 3b4d291 Rename envelope Synchronized checkbox to Sync. - Robyt3 c9d8fed Use IGraphics::CORNER_NONE instead of 0 - Robyt3 c62cc97 Remove dead commented code - Robyt3 d6d8739 Remove unnecessary temporary CUIRect - Robyt3 3c42b22 Add margin to point value/time editboxes for low screen width - Robyt3 7ce143b Add CEnvPoint::MAX_CHANNELS constant - Robyt3 27790be Reserve same space for all envelope channel buttons - Robyt3 2514f1d Align the editbox labels in the envelope editor with the editboxes - Robyt3 385fa4d Slightly decrease width of name editbox if total width is low - Robyt3 b997fe9 Decrease buffer size - Robyt3 9054eb1 Add buttons to move envelopes left and right, use unicode icons - Robyt3 028ef41 Merge #6309 - bors[bot]

22:35

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4129 Editor envelopes order

i wonder whats going on

23:05

will check some day

23:05

hopium

https://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/releases/1.22/

23:15

33% of GStreamer commits are now in Rust

Hm, I guess the more important percentage would be the amount of code in rust

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