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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 00:13:16Z
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heinrich5991
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6263 Implement `bytes_be_to_int` and vice versa without #ifdefs
This mirrors (and just uses) the bytes_be_to_uint functions, without the byte hackery.

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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 00:36:26Z
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heinrich5991
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6264 Hand the client IP addresses to the antibot module

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Jupstar ✪
new version 😅 prepare for reverts
tobi 2023-01-11 02:31:30Z
I got this problem when I updated, but I went to 16.6 and the game works fine
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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 05:33:36Z
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murpii
[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #236 Zukita as NA mod
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tobi
I got this problem when I updated, but I went to 16.6 and the game works fine
Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 07:05:52Z
Read what it says
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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 08:14:03Z
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #236 Zukita as NA mod
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[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits
dffafe3 Zukita as NA mod - murpii ecd6651 Merge pull request #236 from murpii/patch-5 - def-
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deen 2023-01-11 08:15:26Z
@Jupstar ✪ I added "run with OpenGL" option in Steam, hope that's ok: https://steamcommunity.com/app/412220/eventcomments/3757724418287109034/
DDNet 16.7 released :: DDraceNetwork Events & Announcements
View full event information here: https://steamcommunity.com/ogg/412220/announcements/detail/3666526100989860113
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Anime.pdf 2023-01-11 08:59:03Z
I noticed topics from turkey are mostly getting 'bugged' views count, kinda interesting, looks like their ISPs literally ddosing pages instead of sending 1 request troll
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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 09:16:26Z
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bors[bot]
[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
05f2c1e Hand the client IP addresses to the antibot module - heinrich5991 067af3a Merge #6264 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6264 Hand the client IP addresses to the antibot module
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I noticed topics from turkey are mostly getting 'bugged' views count, kinda interesting, looks like their ISPs literally ddosing pages instead of sending 1 request troll
cankick 2023-01-11 09:25:20Z
Yes, it was clan 44 that did it. they are doing this as an attack on me, i swear i have nothing to do with it. I reported the necessry screenshots to the admins.
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I noticed topics from turkey are mostly getting 'bugged' views count, kinda interesting, looks like their ISPs literally ddosing pages instead of sending 1 request troll
cankick 2023-01-11 09:26:23Z
They are doing this on purpose because I am fighting with that 44 clan.
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cankick
Yes, it was clan 44 that did it. they are doing this as an attack on me, i swear i have nothing to do with it. I reported the necessry screenshots to the admins.
Anime.pdf 2023-01-11 09:30:35Z
I wasn't accusing someone, its just weird that only turkish topics have huge amount of views, maybe some ISPs not working correctly, maybe someone have broken router. Cuz just adding views to someone you don't like doesnt have any sense, that's basically ddosing the website xd
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deen 2023-01-11 09:30:59Z
They are just running DoS attacks against our forum for fun, no need to give them attention
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Anime.pdf
I wasn't accusing someone, its just weird that only turkish topics have huge amount of views, maybe some ISPs not working correctly, maybe someone have broken router. Cuz just adding views to someone you don't like doesnt have any sense, that's basically ddosing the website xd
cankick 2023-01-11 09:31:08Z
view bot yea
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deen
They are just running DoS attacks against our forum for fun, no need to give them attention
Anime.pdf 2023-01-11 09:32:23Z
Ddosing certain topics kekw
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And mostly turkish
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And mostly turkish
cankick 2023-01-11 09:33:20Z
all of them kek
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 12:25:11Z
https://lateblt.tripod.com/bit68.txt
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What happens when a CPU starts (tripod.com)
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Cellegen 2023-01-11 17:33:11Z
I'm having fun YEP Why do I feel like Imma spend 500 lines of code only for the Inspector to look nice? lol
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aaaaand on the character category, I'll also plan to make besides Platformer: Top-down and Isometric (oh I fucked up Cancel velocity) (edited)
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Deadge
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Cellegen
I'm having fun YEP Why do I feel like Imma spend 500 lines of code only for the Inspector to look nice? lol
MilkeeyCat 2023-01-11 17:36:16Z
Very cool, what about bot?
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Cellegen 2023-01-11 17:36:32Z
justatest need to make a character class first for the bot to control
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MilkeeyCat 2023-01-11 17:37:00Z
Just gimme a role feelsbadman
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Cellegen 2023-01-11 17:37:07Z
and somehow make it work for all the character categories
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MilkeeyCat
Just gimme a role feelsbadman
Cellegen 2023-01-11 17:38:54Z
Check #help on the server
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MilkeeyCat 2023-01-11 17:39:16Z
Already greenthing
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Cellegen 2023-01-11 17:43:38Z
Oh wait, you didn't talk about AI for the character class I'm doing lmao
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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 17:47:17Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6265 Missing parameter in error list
Never lucky

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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 18:12:13Z
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Jupeyy
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6266 Show current memory usage in assert too
Since it seems a rather common problem: !image

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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 18:34:52Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
8a8dab5 Missing parameter in error list - Jupeyy 6c07706 Merge #6265 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6265 Missing parameter in error list
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 18:35:20Z
@Jupstar ✪ do u think its worth making a own vram limiter
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e.g just unload skins
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with default
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 18:35:45Z
yes, but ppl should still not load 4k skins
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loading 100MB into ram can create laggs
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we need more threaded memory managment, ez
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 18:36:56Z
people will always be stupid, we just gotta save them from their own stupidity
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#devwork
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#lifestyle
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kek
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 18:37:12Z
tru
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 18:37:22Z
as u have seen
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they dont even read
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 18:37:31Z
xd
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 18:37:33Z
ur messages crafted with love
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they hate u
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 18:37:38Z
xDDD
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 18:37:52Z
BASEDDEPT
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 18:38:07Z
if everyone would have a rtx 4090 we wouldn't have this problem. i blame sillicon valley
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 18:38:12Z
true
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Jupstar ✪
yes, but ppl should still not load 4k skins
Cellegen 2023-01-11 18:50:02Z
justatest
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oops I guess?
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 18:52:11Z
xd
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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 19:19:58Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
69c3fa2 Show current memory usage in assert too - Jupeyy a93f89c Merge #6266 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6266 Show current memory usage in assert too
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Jupstar ✪
if everyone would have a rtx 4090 we wouldn't have this problem. i blame sillicon valley
Chairn 2023-01-11 19:50:15Z
you want my address so that you can send me one?
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Chairn
you want my address so that you can send me one?
Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 19:52:03Z
it sadly doesnt fit into your case
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else ofc
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Chairn 2023-01-11 19:52:16Z
i'll buy one 🙂
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 19:52:34Z
ok that makes 2000€ pls
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🙂
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Chairn 2023-01-11 19:52:46Z
no, you send one for free
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 19:53:18Z
im not sillicon valley sadly
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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 20:08:31Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6267 16.1 Client crash on 16.7
Since the 16.7 update its impossible to connect to a 16.7 server with a 16.1 client it will result in a crash. The remaining 16.6 servers are fine
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:11:20Z
close as wontfix
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we donnt provide support for old clients
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BASEDHALT
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gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:11:44Z
its minor tho
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Ryozuki
we donnt provide support for old clients
gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:12:29Z
xd i tried to interpret it in human way
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like if services ie netflix wouldnt provide support for old man
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:12:55Z
xd
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Ryozuki
we donnt provide support for old clients
Voxel 2023-01-11 20:13:09Z
"bu-bu-but the run animations and the new ui 🤓"
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gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:13:18Z
neuron protocol was broken on 16.372.8 patch, sorry
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Voxel
"bu-bu-but the run animations and the new ui 🤓"
gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:14:09Z
i can make parallel repo that will be just the same ddnet but without animations and new ui 😋
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im too lazy for it tho
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gerdoe
i can make parallel repo that will be just the same ddnet but without animations and new ui 😋
Voxel 2023-01-11 20:14:37Z
thats kinda stupid tho
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no offence
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gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:15:18Z
i think adding non optional changes in xd open source game is stupid
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and also we have optional funny things
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why animations should be forced
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no offence tho
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Voxel 2023-01-11 20:16:23Z
because i was told it should be (also boosts my self esteem)
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gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:16:25Z
heinrich will not change his mind so theres no point talking about it
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Voxel 2023-01-11 20:16:30Z
yea
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Voxel
because i was told it should be (also boosts my self esteem)
gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:16:31Z
ic
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Voxel 2023-01-11 20:17:04Z
if i were to make a paralelle client id completely change the graphical system
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like the ui, the tee and skin format, etc
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gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:17:30Z
you can do it
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also you can look at ninslash
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necropotame did a big thing
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nice work
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:17:59Z
his stance is correct on long term (edited)
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gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:18:39Z
about optional things?
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or wdym
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:18:50Z
options ye
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gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:18:58Z
yeah its good in long term
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but ddnet isnt a core
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its literally customized whatever
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i believe ddnet someday will leave teeworlds
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and teeworlds will rest in peace (edited)
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gerdoe
i believe ddnet someday will leave teeworlds
gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:20:06Z
i mean ddet will broke the protocol totally
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will change skin system and maybe someone will do full ui rework
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but its only dreams
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someday ryozoozki will publish rustee troll
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and it will become a new teecore
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gerdoe
i mean ddet will broke the protocol totally
gerdoe 2023-01-11 20:21:16Z
ddnet*
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Ryozuki
we donnt provide support for old clients
Sorah 2023-01-11 20:25:05Z
than just update the ui change and afk sitting emote and i will update
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:25:24Z
@Sorah things dont work like that
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we simply dont do that
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and you dont play
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xD
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ok i might be a bit rude
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but thats the way it works
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why would someone care u cant play cuz u decide to not update?
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unless ur lucky enough forr another dev to waste their time on this
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which i doubt
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Sorah 2023-01-11 20:26:55Z
i dont even want a change for the ui for once i wont a valild argument why no option gets added to have the old way back
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:27:20Z
the argument is it adds code complexity and maintenance burden to devs
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this was told already lots of times
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Sorah 2023-01-11 20:27:31Z
so did adding that stuff in the first place
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:27:33Z
and we dont need to explain again xD
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trust me
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play with it
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after a week u will forget
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the human mind is rly flexible
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with these things
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Sorah 2023-01-11 20:28:44Z
why is every argument you devs bring more against you than me
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whatever
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:29:42Z
or u can just simply update!
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such a easy solution
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and nobodies time is wasted
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Learath2 2023-01-11 20:30:40Z
Our argument is that it's harder for us to maintain the code when there are more options This specific one can be added and I would maintain it, but I literally don't have the time to add it and none of the other devs want to spend their time adding an option for the remaining holdouts that want the stars back
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It's not that complex, it's not some convoluted reason. Nobody hates you for wanting to stay with the old ui. It's a simple issue, I don't have time. We don't force anyone to work on anything because we don't pay anyone
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Sorah 2023-01-11 20:34:13Z
funny that you say force
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before today i wasnt force to update now i am
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i didnt mind not updating but since i need to now or otherwise i just cant join ddnet servers i feel now its forced on me
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well for the forture
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if you accept some random updates from some random new devs they should provide the requested options
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Learath2 2023-01-11 20:36:26Z
A crash that will probably be fixed in max a week isn't forcing you to do anything. If you don't want to update, just wait.
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Sorah 2023-01-11 20:36:38Z
ok that sounds good
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Learath2
A crash that will probably be fixed in max a week isn't forcing you to do anything. If you don't want to update, just wait.
Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:37:02Z
dont promise stuff
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this might involve complex stuff
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Sorah 2023-01-11 20:38:12Z
did someone test if vanilla clients crash ? didnt ddnet wanted to be compatible with them
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Robyt3 2023-01-11 20:38:31Z
Is UUID(NETMSG_CHECKSUM_REQUEST, "checksum-request@ddnet.tw") send in antibot or is there something else different on official servers? Cause the crash is caused by this message and would be fixed on the client side by #5554.
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DDNet BOT 2023-01-11 20:38:32Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5554
Fix out of bounds read in checksum stuff by heinrich5991 · Pull Req...
Checklist Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options Written a unit test if it works standalone, s...
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Learath2 2023-01-11 20:38:43Z
Heinrich loves backcompat. No way he would let it slide
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Heinrich loves backcompat. No way he would let it slide
Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:39:21Z
i would say he likes it when its not problematic
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but well better himself express his opinion
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he iis afk
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Jupstar ✪ 2023-01-11 20:42:11Z
what a lovely day it is
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what a lovely day it is
Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:42:24Z
🏕️
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Mr.Gh0s7 2023-01-11 20:42:40Z
isn't night?
troll 1
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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 20:57:30Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6267 16.1 Client crash on 16.7
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 20:59:32Z
@heinrich5991 what was the issue
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heinrich5991 2023-01-11 20:59:40Z
DM me
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 21:00:01Z
ok
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Sorah
ok that sounds good
heinrich5991 2023-01-11 21:00:09Z
is it fixed on empty servers now?
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heinrich5991
is it fixed on empty servers now?
Sorah 2023-01-11 21:00:53Z
yes :O
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thank you heinrich :) heartw
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 21:01:58Z
u survived
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but there will be a day
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Sorah 2023-01-11 21:02:04Z
ik
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shut up
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 21:02:06Z
that it will be inveitable
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Sorah 2023-01-11 21:02:12Z
:(
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 21:02:13Z
🙊
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Ryozuki
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Sorah 2023-01-11 21:04:29Z
maybe its even the same day something useful is in the updates
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Sorah
maybe its even the same day something useful is in the updates
Ryozuki 2023-01-11 21:08:12Z
u diminish the work of devs cuz u dont know the value of these updates
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ungrateful
sorry 1
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stale dev leads to what happened to tw btw
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I.K.U 2023-01-11 21:15:34Z
why doesnt this get voted?
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heinrich5991 2023-01-11 21:15:39Z
veto
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I.K.U 2023-01-11 21:15:40Z
is it a bug or intended
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ugh
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ok
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Cellegen 2023-01-11 21:15:58Z
if someone has veto, then it won't go off until vetoer gets it off
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I.K.U 2023-01-11 21:16:02Z
when veto strikes back
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Cellegen 2023-01-11 21:16:12Z
when afker is vetoing troll
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Ryozuki 2023-01-11 22:39:16Z
http://www.radgametools.com/oodle.htm
Oodle Compression
RAD Game Tools' web page. RAD makes Bink Video, the Telemetry Performance Visualization System, and Oodle Data Compression - all popular video game middleware.
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apparently this is used in the game dev world
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ffxiv uses it
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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 22:55:53Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6268 When unable to open network client, try resetting bindaddr, else quit

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GitHub BOT 2023-01-11 23:35:32Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
f2b8c32 Happy belated new year 2023 - def-
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[ddnet:16.7.1] 20 new commits
ed1bf05 Update translations for upcoming 16.7 - def- 1cdbb1b Version 16.7 - def- 09c21d5 For integrated and discrete GPUs always prefer what comes first in the list - Jupeyy dbfaecc Minor brazilian portuguese fix (by Akari) - def- 8cd3335 Update russian.txt to incoming 16.7 update - lolipodass d4afa55 Update french translations - Chairn 99dae9e Update spanish.txt - n0Ketchp 9ac6b39 Update spanish.txt - n0Ketchp 58558c4 Add error handling when enumerating physical devices - Jupeyy 31a69c5 Followup fixes for physical devices - Jupeyy 0aefd10 Add warning for missing integrated CPU driver - Jupeyy 2c2f319 Update Korean translations by CHaBek - cwh7435 47cb543 Add new french translations for 16.7 - Chairn 3cfefd1 Update brazilian_portuguese.txt - rffontenelle 50cefec Add ui_smooth_scroll_time variable to adjust smooth scrolling - Robyt3 5d04254 Update simplified_chinese.txt - Cheeser0613 9a882b4 Update traditional_chinese.txt - Cheeser0613 c5b020d Missing parameter in error list - Jupeyy d00fee3 Show current memory usage in assert too - Jupeyy 750129c Version 16.7.1 - def-
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