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DDraceNetwork
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GitHub BOT 2022-12-12 02:36:57Z
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uklas
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6125 Automatic dummy setup on dummy servers.
Have a console- or chatcommand "dummyteam" or the like to 1. connect dummy 2. join an empty team and 3. lock the team. Also add a "run on joining dummy server" switch. Benefits:
  • convenience
  • newbie friendly
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GitHub BOT 2022-12-12 05:30:29Z
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[ddnet-maps:master] 1 new commit
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Matodor 2022-12-12 08:27:59Z
any forum moderator here?
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murpi 2022-12-12 08:30:54Z
Approved
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deen 2022-12-12 10:21:17Z
Anyone here who has Tele Columbus / PYUR ISP (in Germany) and can enable native ipv6 in router? We have an issue where it resolves ger2.ddnet.org to an ipv6 address, which is wrong. I want to make sure this is a configuration issue from the ISP
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deen 2022-12-12 11:15:29Z
Anyone has good ideas how to make DDNet more noob-friendly? See https://steamcommunity.com/id/sancarn/recommended/412220/
Steam Community :: sancarn :: Review for DDraceNetwork
If you are looking for a light hearted fun online coop puzzler platformer, this game is likely NOT for you. The tutorial is doable (in solo or cooperatively) but as soon as you join a server you'll find it impossible, and very easy to get left behind. Even most of the servers labelled 'novice' are almost impossible to complete for any new player...
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:18:59Z
Add more tutorials
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Current is getting started. Next should explain how to connect dummy and do very basic ddrace
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Pipou 2022-12-12 11:20:47Z
Add an aim bot and press the keys for them
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:20:54Z
Part 3 some harder stuff like towers
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Part 4 wall hammers
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Most novice are also rather hard. Esp the old school ones
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Pipou 2022-12-12 11:22:02Z
The game is much easier (to start playing) than 10 years ago
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:22:08Z
School hook and the other stuff isn't really novice beginner level
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Pipou 2022-12-12 11:22:20Z
But we lack of good introduction maps
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:22:38Z
Also slash r should be on
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Pipou 2022-12-12 11:22:43Z
Should we really have a map with a "press [key]" to move "right"
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:22:46Z
Or generally no falling
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Failing
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Pipou 2022-12-12 11:23:00Z
No /r, otherwise they'll be confused on any other maps
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:23:09Z
Then teleport
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Pipou 2022-12-12 11:23:13Z
Yep
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Pipou
Should we really have a map with a "press [key]" to move "right"
Ama 2022-12-12 11:23:26Z
Probably Yes
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:23:38Z
But failing is maybe 4-5 star novice only (edited)
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Should we really have a map with a "press [key]" to move "right"
Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:24:16Z
We have that. The guy even played it
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Ama 2022-12-12 11:24:18Z
But its too hard to start playing correctly when the most played map is multeasymap and its not beginner friendly at all haha
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Pipou 2022-12-12 11:24:46Z
It would be good if we could display the keys one has picked. Some people jump with w (qwerty), space, or even alt so we can't just write "press space to jump" (edited)
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 11:24:49Z
But after 30 minutes play u don't have the aim for dummy dragging parts yet
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Pipou 2022-12-12 11:26:33Z
You need to face the difficulty to improve in the end
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And I believe our novice maps cover everything there is to know and to learn
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At least, the basics
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Anyone has good ideas how to make DDNet more noob-friendly? See https://steamcommunity.com/id/sancarn/recommended/412220/
default 2022-12-12 11:29:04Z
Got nothing to say wrong about the current methods to teach players how the game works. -> You already start off in the Tutorial map (maybe you could make it so that you can't skip it, it's annoying, but I still see a few people with 0 points in something like a Kobra). -> Novice filter gets appropriately set (maybe you could suggest people try out a lower star map instead of hopping into a 3+ star one) (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:30:15Z
i think the guy just doesnt put effort
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this game rly ticks people who like the reward for their efforts
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no hand holding gaming like these days
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default 2022-12-12 11:30:56Z
^
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But maybe you could make a difficulty tab for the browser (so the difficulty of the map gets displayed, you only figure it out by looking at the server/voting tab once you joined a server. which a lot of people won't look at. because they either don't care or don't know how to navigate through the UI) (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:31:09Z
and ultimately
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the difficulty is what makes this game so addicting
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its whatm akes people play for 6 hours straight on maps
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easy stuff gets boring easily
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u just cant catter to everybody
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and that shouldnt be on ur mind
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@deen maybe put a Novice specific tab?
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DDnet - New Players
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or smth
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idk
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default 2022-12-12 11:33:33Z
nah
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Ryozuki
i think the guy just doesnt put effort
deen 2022-12-12 11:33:57Z
I know that with effort you can get started in DDNet, but we are trying to make it easier for people who don't put in that effort
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Or we should market more to "hardcore pro gamers"
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:34:17Z
well in my opinion if they dont put the effort they wont like it
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i think we shouldnt bend over backwards to people who simply arent into this type of game
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deen 2022-12-12 11:34:41Z
Want to play the hardest game ever? Want to finish no map ever? Want to suffer for hours and cry, getting nothing in return? Come play DDNet with a community of other sufferers!
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:34:44Z
advertise it as pure skill based
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Ryozuki
i think the guy just doesnt put effort
Pipou 2022-12-12 11:34:54Z
I agree, it seems like he wants to be rewarded and "finish" the game by doing nothing. If if struggles on novice, don't let him know about the brutal and insane categories
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:35:07Z
i didnt finish a novice map for 1-2 months
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and when i did
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deen
Want to play the hardest game ever? Want to finish no map ever? Want to suffer for hours and cry, getting nothing in return? Come play DDNet with a community of other sufferers!
default 2022-12-12 11:35:12Z
that's not a good description. you easily find people guiding you through easier maps. so you get to finish at least a few maps until it gets (mechanical) hard and brain worky. (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:35:13Z
it was a rly good feeling kek
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the problem is that they probs see it as "if you dont finish the map you havent achieved something" as in you didnt have fun if you didnt finish
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but actually finishing is the least of the fun lol
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default 2022-12-12 11:36:05Z
road is the goal
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learning how to solve challenges
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solving them yourself
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finding mates
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deen
Want to play the hardest game ever? Want to finish no map ever? Want to suffer for hours and cry, getting nothing in return? Come play DDNet with a community of other sufferers!
Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:37:43Z
Want to play a skill based game that will reward your efforts to learn its mechanics? With only yourself as the barrier to entry (no paywalls!) you can join DDNet and enjoy this unique cooperative game that will test even the most hardcore players!
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smth like that
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someone with a marketing degree should do it kek
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default 2022-12-12 11:38:37Z
That. And probably most players start this game because of people like Aoe. At least I did start to play this game because of him. Seen open source is a big argument too. Also, you hardly find any other Jump and Run MMO. This one also is easy to start off in but hard to master. (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:38:38Z
making emphasis on no paywalls is important
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for free to play games
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deen 2022-12-12 11:41:43Z
We are not "free to play", we are "free"
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"free to play" indicates that playing is free, but you have to pay for something else, so I don't like the term
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:43:10Z
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"free to play" indicates that playing is free, but you have to pay for something else, so I don't like the term
Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:43:16Z
doesnt matter
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normal people often assume free games have paywalls sometimes
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its not bad to make it clear
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default 2022-12-12 11:43:51Z
>totally completely free ? (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:44:21Z
DDraceNetwork (DDNet) started out as a simple modification of Teeworlds, a 2D action shooter. But, in DDNet, you don't fight against each other - instead, you work together with up to 64 people and push your way through maps.
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we should also stop mentioned teeworlds
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ppl dont know it and dont care
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btw steam page can have gifs
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we could put some there
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see
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this is the enjoyers
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default 2022-12-12 11:47:26Z
50 hours
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find one with 5k+ hours (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:47:45Z
i know but i dont wanna show old players reviews
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Chairn 2022-12-12 11:49:08Z
HIGHLY ADDICTIVE 50 hrs on record
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HIGHLY ADDICTIVE 50 hrs on record
default 2022-12-12 11:49:23Z
since 13. November >not addicted enough (edited)
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Chairn 2022-12-12 11:49:28Z
https://tenor.com/zJ3J.gif
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:49:56Z
kek
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nouaa 2022-12-12 11:50:05Z
lool
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default 2022-12-12 11:50:20Z
yea maybe adding a chat filter wouldn't be too bad
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to the official servers at least
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:50:30Z
another review calling this game commie cuz lot of russians and chinese
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lol
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btw steam page can have gifs
deen 2022-12-12 11:50:45Z
What kind of gifs do you imagine would be good? Just some gameplay? Fancy animation?
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What kind of gifs do you imagine would be good? Just some gameplay? Fancy animation?
Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:51:10Z
i would show off lots of tees together honestly
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and maybe some hammerfly
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but better ask others xD
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lots of tees together -> description of community
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hammer fly -> description of techniques
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in a simple way ofc
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and the tee wiki logo
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with a link to the wiki
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xd
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wiki
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default 2022-12-12 11:52:29Z
DDoS attacks were solved by kicking players sending too many packets. If people from outside send too much traffic (should be blocked by default, if it isn't a connection attempt), maybe adding something like Cloudflare could help. (edited)
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Alexander 2022-12-12 11:52:52Z
Cloudflare ddos protection is only for websites
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DDoS attacks were solved by kicking players sending too many packets. If people from outside send too much traffic (should be blocked by default, if it isn't a connection attempt), maybe adding something like Cloudflare could help. (edited)
deen 2022-12-12 11:53:00Z
I wish it were that easy
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Alexander
Cloudflare ddos protection is only for websites
default 2022-12-12 11:53:06Z
domains
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:53:15Z
nah its only for http
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Alexander 2022-12-12 11:53:23Z
It won't block the traffic coming to ddnet servers
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deen 2022-12-12 11:53:30Z
I talked to Cloudflare developers, they haven't been able to help us
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:53:43Z
https://hookrace.net/blog/dos-attacks-against-online-game/
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u can read more
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@deen https://store.steampowered.com/app/1145360/Hades/
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example of gifs
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default 2022-12-12 11:56:02Z
does it cost you guys something to add steam cosmetics to the game?
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does it cost you guys something to add steam cosmetics to the game?
deen 2022-12-12 11:56:14Z
no
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default 2022-12-12 11:56:18Z
I hate that my favorite games don't have them
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MW2, Teeworlds, the list is long
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:56:37Z
u have to know u can play this without steam
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default 2022-12-12 11:56:58Z
yea but then it is optional
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 11:56:59Z
maybe we could integrate the workshop to download assets and put the im the assets folder
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i neverchecked it tho
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https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/workshop
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deen 2022-12-12 12:03:11Z
Good enough for now
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default 2022-12-12 12:04:11Z
I could recommend this game to people breaking games if you accept any traffic. Similar to how I recommend the Game Growtopia atm (for anyone wanting to learn how to bypass user-mode anti-cheats, assembly, and reversing in general). I could see people staying when they like to play this game. And you get to improve the server-sided ac. (edited)
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yair 2022-12-12 12:04:15Z
how to increase the hammer range?
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I could recommend this game to people breaking games if you accept any traffic. Similar to how I recommend the Game Growtopia atm (for anyone wanting to learn how to bypass user-mode anti-cheats, assembly, and reversing in general). I could see people staying when they like to play this game. And you get to improve the server-sided ac. (edited)
deen 2022-12-12 12:06:27Z
Please don't tell attackers to attack this game...
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Please don't tell attackers to attack this game...
ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:07:06Z
lmao we have enough of those
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deen
Anyone has good ideas how to make DDNet more noob-friendly? See https://steamcommunity.com/id/sancarn/recommended/412220/
murpi 2022-12-12 12:07:10Z
Novice but with /r enabled everywhere
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lmao we have enough of those
default 2022-12-12 12:07:39Z
Not so sure about this. All the bot clients/hacks I have seen for this game are nearly a decade old. And they even get detected as such. Resulting in its users getting banned from the servers. (edited)
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deen 2022-12-12 12:08:27Z
Not true, we are struggling with new bots
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nouaa 2022-12-12 12:08:41Z
Yeah and bans are useless
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deen 2022-12-12 12:08:45Z
But I won't give more details in order not to help the bot developers
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:09:16Z
I can't think about a proper way to ban people on an opensource game
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yair 2022-12-12 12:09:22Z
btw if u talkin about bots and stuff anyone got good pathfinder code? mine kinda shitty and to lazy to work on it
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But I won't give more details in order not to help the bot developers
default 2022-12-12 12:09:30Z
That's alright. Banning them instantly already does that. But you can't ban in waves as well. Because that would impact the other players experience.
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I can't think about a proper way to ban people on an opensource game
nouaa 2022-12-12 12:09:36Z
accounts?
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accounts?
default 2022-12-12 12:09:48Z
>creates a new one Did I mention the game Growtopia yet? more than 50% of the 80k users online are bots. (edited)
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:09:53Z
yes but then you need something to avoid people creating alot of accounts
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nouaa 2022-12-12 12:10:02Z
Sure
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default 2022-12-12 12:10:42Z
And I don't see HWID bans for this game becoming a thing
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lol
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:10:52Z
hwid ban is useless
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default 2022-12-12 12:10:58Z
yes all bans are useless
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fingerprint to enter the game the only way to avoid cheaters would be to do it like China. Requiring your residential info upon registering for a game. Reducing your social credit score by a lot when caught cheating. Also being unable to play other games using that system. People still bypass this by buying that info online of someone else. But it is way less. (edited)
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btw if u talkin about bots and stuff anyone got good pathfinder code? mine kinda shitty and to lazy to work on it
nouaa 2022-12-12 12:12:18Z
look for it, there was a good one the last time I surfed on github (edited)
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fingerprint to enter the game the only way to avoid cheaters would be to do it like China. Requiring your residential info upon registering for a game. Reducing your social credit score by a lot when caught cheating. Also being unable to play other games using that system. People still bypass this by buying that info online of someone else. But it is way less. (edited)
ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:12:37Z
this is not possible at all
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default 2022-12-12 12:12:48Z
yea I know
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that was a joke
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:14:29Z
guys i need your help, I've had a framelag problem for a long time, they seem invisible but they make the game impossible for me, it didn't do it before and I don't know how to solve it, I posted a video a while ago if you give me permission I'll link it
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I even tried to format the pc
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:15:01Z
if it's a youtube link you can share it here
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:15:14Z
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAeSM-MW8WU
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Problem Teeworlds framelag |PLEASE HELP ME|
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they are imperceptible but if you focus you can see it
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:15:53Z
clearly visible
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default 2022-12-12 12:16:04Z
does look more like server lag
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yair 2022-12-12 12:16:08Z
i got those but x100 stronger ur net prob shit or smth
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nouaa 2022-12-12 12:16:14Z
Yeah just lags I guess
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:16:26Z
what's ur ping average lul
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Patiga 2022-12-12 12:16:28Z
are you playing with wifi?
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:16:31Z
i have this problem with all maps
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAeSM-MW8WU
murpi 2022-12-12 12:16:32Z
wifi?
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:16:38Z
with a cable
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murpi 2022-12-12 12:17:15Z
then most likely packet loss (edited)
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:17:32Z
what can i do for fix it?
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default 2022-12-12 12:17:58Z
there is a thing under windows where you can give a specific process network priority but not sure if that could help here (edited)
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:19:03Z
I think there was a way to visually see what's happening (in a form of a graph)
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ctrl+shift+d with something else, forgot
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I think there was a way to visually see what's happening (in a form of a graph)
default 2022-12-12 12:21:30Z
is that a game or operating system feature?
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:22:55Z
Game
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there is a thing under windows where you can give a specific process network priority but not sure if that could help here (edited)
Pie. 2022-12-12 12:23:34Z
on task manager?
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:25:00Z
dbg_graphs
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And ctrl+shift+d ingame
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I think
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:25:20Z
what is that?
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:25:28Z
Press f1 and type this command
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And do ctrl+shift+d also ingame
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:26:18Z
i did it
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now?
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:26:35Z
U should see some graphs while playing
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:27:52Z
i'm gonna make a video
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default 2022-12-12 12:28:54Z
if there is no obvious spike down (or up, IDK how the games graph works) while a stutter like that happens, the problem may lay somewhere else (not network related at least) but the first video seriously didn't look like FPS loss or something, more like your hook not getting accepted/registered by the server / a force pulling you down due to whatever f reason. so if the network can't be blamed, the game can't be blamed at all here. one thing that I would monitor though if every other option was tested would be if the game sends the hook packet, like, at all (and if the server received and processed your packet - which is hard to test when you don't host the server yourself). (edited)
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:37:11Z
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can u see something wrong or i have to make a video?
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default 2022-12-12 12:37:31Z
second graph looks interesting
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a video would be better
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:37:59Z
ok i have to download something for doing that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAeSM-MW8WU
deen 2022-12-12 12:38:08Z
enable ctrl-shift-d and ctrl-shift-g
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default 2022-12-12 12:38:16Z
do you have a NVIDIA graphics card? then you can just use shadowplay (edited)
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deen 2022-12-12 12:38:19Z
oh, you did so already
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@Pie. is this problem on all locations or only one? Can you try a different server?
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:39:20Z
this problem is for all servers
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deen 2022-12-12 12:39:47Z
Can you run ping -c ger2.ddnet.org (or whatever server that is) in cmd.exe for a few minutes, then cancel it with ctrl-c and send the result?
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do you have a NVIDIA graphics card? then you can just use shadowplay (edited)
Pie. 2022-12-12 12:40:00Z
yes but i have to uptade it
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default 2022-12-12 12:40:07Z
really? NVIDIA doesn't do forced updates (never heard of that before) (edited)
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:40:08Z
sry if my english is bad
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default 2022-12-12 12:40:19Z
CTRL+SHIFT+G should show up the overlay
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at least I think it was that
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Can you run ping -c ger2.ddnet.org (or whatever server that is) in cmd.exe for a few minutes, then cancel it with ctrl-c and send the result?
default 2022-12-12 12:41:30Z
but do this while you are updating
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deen is the smart one here (edited)
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:41:56Z
it asks me to specify the ip address
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default 2022-12-12 12:43:22Z
make a ping then to resolve the domain to an ip
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ping ger2.ddnet.org (edited)
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:44:23Z
@deen he can prob run WinMTR for that
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:44:28Z
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default 2022-12-12 12:44:45Z
and now copy that ip and use the command deen suggested
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:45:00Z
ah ok
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deen 2022-12-12 12:45:12Z
Sorry, it's ping -t ger2.ddnet.org
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:46:03Z
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default 2022-12-12 12:46:41Z
yea do what he tells
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run it for a while
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and then stop it
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:46:50Z
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default 2022-12-12 12:46:56Z
CTRL+C maybe cancels it
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then copy all lines, paste them into a textfile and send it deen
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Avolicious 2022-12-12 12:47:45Z
https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/27780 Download WinMTR & enter ger2.ddnet.org Press Start Copy as TEXT -> send to deen
Running WinMTR
How to read and analyze WinMTR data in order to track down a potential connection issue.
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deen 2022-12-12 12:47:47Z
So no packet loss, but it jumps to 84 ms sometimes, that could already be the cause for the lags you see
12:48
if that is with LAN cable, and you get the same result pinging anything, then it's probably just your internet connection and only your ISP can fix it
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:53:40Z
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ReiTW 2022-12-12 12:57:32Z
you should run it for 5mins, so there's enough info (edited)
12:58
but looks normal in this file
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Avolicious 2022-12-12 12:58:29Z
Well this looks kinda good, interesting part is the ~ +30 ping from 151.6.3.89 to fra core-backbone
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Pie. 2022-12-12 12:58:33Z
like that?
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Avolicious 2022-12-12 12:58:47Z
Now deen's server MTR would be interesting
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😄
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151.7.215.56 - 0 | 306 | 306 | 5 | 15 | 153 | 7 |
153 worst 😄 (edited)
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But internet routing is over-engineered sometimes. We are hosting a server in turkiye and player have been routed from the local hoster ( Istanbul ) to Budapest and back. (edited)
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GitHub BOT 2022-12-12 13:14:23Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6126 Fix conflict resolution between #6013 and #5948
Thanks @Robyt3 for noticing

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Patiga 2022-12-12 13:17:29Z
anyone know how I can use a rust library in compiler explorer?
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it is easy enough to 'add' the library, but I fail to import it in the code
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 13:18:40Z
hmm most online compielrs usually only support top 100 crates
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but idk
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Patiga 2022-12-12 13:19:10Z
yes, they have a limited set of crates, but I fail to use one of them
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 13:19:22Z
can u show?
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Patiga 2022-12-12 13:19:53Z
sure, sec
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https://godbolt.org/z/nrzerz8r4
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ah it might just be a problem with the integration of the bitflags library, I have no problem importing from quote
13:25
maybe I need to select an earlier edition or smth
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meh
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 13:35:56Z
weird
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GitHub BOT 2022-12-12 13:55:33Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6127 Replace cargo with rust for Arch in README
'rust' is the name of the package that provides cargo tool. Installing 'cargo' with work because rust is set with provides=cargo, but one might get confused for not finding a 'cargo' package installed in their system

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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 14:17:04Z
oh true
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igotta update gentoo
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GitHub BOT 2022-12-12 14:21:55Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
d10c448 Replace cargo with rust for Arch in README - rffontenelle 48cf2d5 Merge #6127 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6127 Replace cargo with rust for Arch in README
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 15:35:55Z
updated the live ebuild to truly be live with rust pkgs
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and added 16.6
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tho needs to wait till guru oficials merge into master
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 15:38:46Z
Why there is rust in ddnet
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Learath2 2022-12-12 15:39:20Z
For lulz
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 15:41:47Z
what
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what
Ryozuki 2022-12-12 15:43:14Z
cuz we know whats good
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 15:44:00Z
Whats good
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Overengineered code?
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Learath2 2022-12-12 15:45:03Z
Yes
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 15:45:10Z
rust over c++
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
412a946 Fix conflict resolution between #6013 and #5948 - def- 8fafc7d Merge #6126 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6126 Fix conflict resolution between #6013 and #5948
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Why there is rust in ddnet
deen 2022-12-12 16:08:33Z
So you can press F1, and write rust_version. That is the only use case so far 😄
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But now new functionality can be added using Rust, which is nice for memory safety
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 16:21:03Z
Sure...
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Waiting for new functionality
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deen 2022-12-12 16:24:10Z
Be the change you want to see
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Ryozuki 2022-12-12 16:40:34Z
@Anime.pdf why u hatin
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 16:44:18Z
Im just asking why would you add it if you have nothing to add in addition yetfeelsbadman
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Like ok if you want to make some dope pop ups or custom ui by server (just examples), but you add it just to let it be (edited)
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Im just asking why would you add it if you have nothing to add in addition yetfeelsbadman
deen 2022-12-12 16:53:41Z
Because now people who want to add a feature in Rust don't have the excuse to say "Well, there is no Rust support in DDNet yet and it would take me months just to add that"
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 16:56:31Z
I didnt see a single person who would say thatmonkalaugh
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But i mean, sure
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Sounds good
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default 2022-12-12 16:57:27Z
who codes in rust anyways
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ugly crab
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 16:57:37Z
So now you can make everything in rust instead of c++ or only some things
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ugly crab
Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 16:57:48Z
feelsbadman no u
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I like ferris
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default 2022-12-12 16:57:58Z
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 17:33:27Z
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who codes in rust anyways
deen 2022-12-12 17:39:30Z
People who care about security and performance
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 17:43:39Z
475 issues nice, when do we get gh discussions back
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since they filtered all the useless issues
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 17:44:03Z
Security does not exist troll
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louis 2022-12-12 17:46:35Z
when did it get so cute lol
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i remember it being ugly
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Anime.pdf 2022-12-12 17:46:51Z
Dafuk
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Always has been cute
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Alexander 2022-12-12 17:50:25Z
okay javascript support in ddnet client when?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 17:51:40Z
the day after yesterday
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Alexander 2022-12-12 17:51:52Z
so today
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 17:52:18Z
but only if we can preallocate 8gb ram
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i meant 8tb sry
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Alexander 2022-12-12 17:52:35Z
feelsbadman
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Pipou 2022-12-12 19:07:52Z
Is it possible to change the new zoom setting in the editor ? It's too slow and too smooth to me
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 19:08:03Z
it was already changed
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try nightly
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or maybe it was only changed today
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then wait 1 day
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Pipou 2022-12-12 19:08:19Z
Oh ok 🙂
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Thanks
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 19:08:41Z
at least there sohuld be a setting now
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #6128 Using `restart` removes all spinning lasers from the map
#6074 fixed laser doors having the wrong state after restarting, but spinning lasers are just going completely missing when restarting the round.
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default 2022-12-12 20:30:30Z
what file to delete to get my flags back in the server browser?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-12-12 20:31:48Z
none i guess
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what file to delete to get my flags back in the server browser?
Alexander 2022-12-12 20:33:56Z
ddnet client folder and get teeworlds kek
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #6125 Automatic dummy setup on dummy servers.
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ddnet client folder and get teeworlds kek
default 2022-12-12 21:00:33Z
thanks, fixed it
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guess the old bug of it redownloading something still exists.
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must have happened when I accidentally launched a debug version of the game
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Chairn 2022-12-12 21:01:10Z
it's not a bug, it's a feature 🙂
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default 2022-12-12 21:01:17Z
yea that breaks the flag
21:01
cool feature
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also it made my tee be hardstuck on one emote
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #6129 Remove duplicate `rust` mention from README Arch Linux packages
Fixes #6127.

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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
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Is it possible to change the new zoom setting in the editor ? It's too slow and too smooth to me
deen 2022-12-12 21:53:20Z
F1, ed_smooth_zoom_time 0
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6129 Remove duplicate `rust` mention from README Arch Linux packages
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Pipou
The game is much easier (to start playing) than 10 years ago
heinrich5991 2022-12-12 22:40:40Z
not so sure about that. ddnet mostly has harder maps than the one I started with
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I agree, it seems like he wants to be rewarded and "finish" the game by doing nothing. If if struggles on novice, don't let him know about the brutal and insane categories
heinrich5991 2022-12-12 22:42:28Z
it's true that novice maps are actually hard though. we need to guide players to the easy ones
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since they filtered all the useless issues
heinrich5991 2022-12-12 22:52:34Z
they were just completely forgotten
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Robyt3 2022-12-12 23:02:50Z
You can exclude the labels "to-reproduce" and "discussion" when searching for issues, to find the useful ones (edited)
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Alexander 2022-12-12 23:08:11Z
one question: why isn't vulkan default rendering engine in ddnet?
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