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Between 2022-11-17 00:00:00Z and 2022-11-18 00:00:00Z
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türk varmı
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#welcome rule 5, use english please :-)
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hello there, are there any metroidvania like maps? 😄
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season 2 wasn’t a bad idea honestly, and it was mainly focused on accounts on reset and most people went for fixing skips and team kill skips
12:23
it would be great if achievements could still be added
12:23
with a way to get the account system
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2022-11-17 12:26:31Z
wait does the announcement mean that accounts got cancelled?
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after the admins see 100's of comments on each suggestion post, they realize that they don't get paid enough for that shit kek
kek 11
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RIP battlepass
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i remember a couple years ago learath mentioned accounts, and people thought it was a meme. now it's even more of a meme
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could have been perfect it S2 was made for april fools or something
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some people stopped finishing maps and speedrunning because it was “pointless”
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2022-11-17 12:37:45Z
pointsless troll
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spur
some people stopped finishing maps and speedrunning because it was “pointless”
so removing peoples points (some made since 2013/14) is a better point? xD
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no im just stating what happened
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this game is old af now, i can't believe people votes yes to remove everyones points
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David*°Villa 2022-11-17 12:41:28Z
Why no season 2? I was already hyped to grind all Novice maps thonk
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2022-11-17 12:45:04Z
two years ago I posted a simple idea for accounts, but nobody cared, so I was hyped for the season 2, and now it got cancelled feelsbadman https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/746852003744841858
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Blade
this game is old af now, i can't believe people votes yes to remove everyones points
Worth it gigachad
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Lumpy ◐ω◑ 2022-11-17 12:53:34Z
we only care about /points Meekrioz
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#announcements be like : wanna play Koule maps again ?
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Blade
this game is old af now, i can't believe people votes yes to remove everyones points
Why is it surprising to you that a fair bit of people who don't really care about points thought that the benefits of a clean slate outweigh the "loss" (technically just archival) of some progress?
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Blade is a classic gate keeper. Obviously he doesn't want change to happen
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I'm not even saying it's good or bad. I'm saying the result of the vote isn't surprising at all 😛
13:39
The obsession with points some people seem to have is a little concerning though given they signify nothing at all
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Learath2
Why is it surprising to you that a fair bit of people who don't really care about points thought that the benefits of a clean slate outweigh the "loss" (technically just archival) of some progress?
Speaking of clean slate, china should've received it's own leaderboard after the steam release (edited)
13:40
imo
13:41
China > asia in general 👀
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Stepfunn
Blade is a classic gate keeper. Obviously he doesn't want change to happen
what is ddnet and where is ddmax? this is false discord feelsamazingman
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Sorry, I didn't quite follow the news 😅 Is the current plan to implement an account system without resetting any points at all or is the account system itself cancelled?
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I would recommend to lean back for a week and wait how things will sort out. No one can tell you a serious answer
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👆 wiser ddnet player in the channel
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I doubt that this decision was made without any thoughts but okay I guess we all just have to wait then, thank you for responding! (edited)
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Learath2
The obsession with points some people seem to have is a little concerning though given they signify nothing at all
Why not make legacy points . and season 2 points
15:32
and people will eventually themselfs decide which is more important
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That's what I proposed aswell. Legacy points would not be associated to accounts but stay there
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and when you create an account you can decide which legacy name you collect points for
15:33
and you can still collect them
15:34
Then the community would just have 2 leaderboards and 1 would eventually fall off
15:34
or there would be a classic community and a new point community
15:35
like we have speedrunners and point farmers
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the goal would be not to split the community x)
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im only sad that if points dont reset, i wont be finishing Ama maps againfeelsbadman
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I think you shouldn't be able to get more legacy points tbf
15:36
That leaderboard should just be archived at that point
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My suggestion would make the whole community decide and not only loud people
15:38
People could still farm the legacy points and be happy with their 10y old accounts
15:38
or have a fresh start and enjoy the maps 1 more time
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thats what i waited for. would have been my comeback sad
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I was gonna be hyped for s2
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i think this was decided way too early
16:02
this idea deserved more time
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Akari
this idea deserved more time
yes. it should be more discussed before a full decision. im pretty sure ALOT of people love it and there will be a ton of new/old players. i mean some will leave but the main community will stay
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fuck twerking twinbop, embrace s2
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16:12
deen should be scared of what i just said
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well, it's only phase 1
16:26
but feedback is actually helpful, now they know what to work on next
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Sure, there were lots of good ideas and independently of season 2 people can pick them up and work on them.
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@deen so points are not resetting right?
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how to make online server?
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</RUTUJEK>
how to make online server?
if you want to test your map or play with friends for fun i would recommend to use trashmap
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Ama
if you want to test your map or play with friends for fun i would recommend to use trashmap
what is it ''trashmap''? (edited)
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</RUTUJEK>
what is it ''trashmap''? (edited)
16:59
a provider for temporary online servers
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Well, as how KoG did it with season points, it would be fine like that tbh
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I was okay with points being removed if it meant that things would be fixed like account system would be added
17:32
But season points without an account system would just make me play even less because I know my effort would go straight into the void after every season
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@Peppa Pig Who stopped banning?
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I was talking about season 2 in game chat the other day and basically the whole server agreed that they might quit playing entirely if they lost their points lol
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丂ひア3尺-_ 2022-11-17 18:16:32Z
hy guys
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Need future tech to automate teehistorian validation
18:16
2030 season 2
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丂ひア3尺-_ 2022-11-17 18:16:45Z
i play with ddrace
18:16
but i have one problem
18:17
when i start one lobby have one messagge ... Ban 10 min for VPN
18:17
but i dont use VPN
18:17
in all lobby
18:18
KOG lobby
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bomba34
@deen so points are not resetting right?
#announcements "instead of reset" that means no reset (edited)
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丂ひア3尺-_
KOG lobby
kog lobby you should check out kog discord.
18:30
ddracenetwork provides the client and the ddnet servers but are note related to the kog network. (edited)
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丂ひア3尺-_ 2022-11-17 18:31:30Z
have a link for kog discord bro
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丂ひア3尺-_
have a link for kog discord bro
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丂ひア3尺-_ 2022-11-17 18:32:33Z
thanks bro
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oh lol discord changed invite links
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丂ひア3尺-_ 2022-11-17 18:32:57Z
i entrer but must wait 10 min 🙂
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@Discord Mod the client that shall not be named justatest
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mf seriously pinged all the mods for that
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Don't mention bot clients @Peppa Pig
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Alexander
mf seriously pinged all the mods for that
no huge difference between moderator and discord mod. to ping discord mods related to such an issue is totally fine.
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when KFC client (only chicken themed skins)
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Cellegen
when KFC client (only chicken themed skins)
f3
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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tela
I was talking about season 2 in game chat the other day and basically the whole server agreed that they might quit playing entirely if they lost their points lol
virgin point grinders greenthing
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tela
I was talking about season 2 in game chat the other day and basically the whole server agreed that they might quit playing entirely if they lost their points lol
dont think a 3person usa server counts as a "whole server"
kek 9
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Lmao yeah it was like 10
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Dragere
@Discord Mod the client that shall not be named justatest
Why?
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Still tho only time I've seen players express an opinion outside the discord
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Peppa Pig
Why?
falls under rule #8
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Dragere
falls under rule #8
Oh, sorry.
18:54
justatest
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bu esap silidi 2022-11-17 19:53:15Z
anan
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Ne Dion ezik
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@Krain sry bro I laged
21:04
move me to spectors
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All good ahah
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bomba34
@deen so points are not resetting right?
correct
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tela
I was talking about season 2 in game chat the other day and basically the whole server agreed that they might quit playing entirely if they lost their points lol
yeah, that was a lot of the feedback I got too
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Thats really good
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unfortunate
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İ was just started grinding points
21:39
Even though im 1.5k im playing 6hours a day
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reset wouldve been refreshing but i guess with some of the higher point players a lot of the grinding would have to be redone
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İ started playing the game 1 months ago (edited)
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:40:41Z
I wouldn't quit cus losing points, but I totally agree with the point of people who got 10k+ and kinda don't want to go from 0 again
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Broso56
reset wouldve been refreshing but i guess with some of the higher point players a lot of the grinding would have to be redone
i dont even see a single no vote from anyone in the top20 points,the biggest grinders
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interesting
21:41
yea me personally i would be more than okay with points resetting
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NovaShock
i dont even see a single no vote from anyone in the top20 points,the biggest grinders
Because they have no purpous
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especially if it meant changes could be made that have been needed for a while that otherwise couldnt be made
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Rotarite
Because they have no purpous
if they have no purpose why is the reset getting stopped then
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:43:09Z
What reset
21:43
There never was a reset
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ok "point archiving"
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NovaShock
if they have no purpose why is the reset getting stopped then
The top people you said is only %1 of the game
21:44
Most of people doesnt want to lose their progress
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:44:33Z
I don't think deen ever thought bout resetting points together with this season2
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I mean
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Because they still got something to do
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:44:43Z
Before posting and getting feedback
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i mean with adding accounts and stuff you kinda would have to have it be reset
21:45
from when deen brought up season 2 in #announcements
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as far as I can see you only "lose points" if you make an account,the rest play without consequence
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:46:00Z
Yeah
21:46
So like
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hm i guess
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:46:15Z
Just continue playing with your 20k nickname
21:46
Or go again from the very start
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Honestly, a reset is the only way this game ever properly moves forward. It's kinda doomed as is. Even with just 3k players it's getting very annoying with people having conflicting names. This approach of everyone takes whatever name they want doesn't really work out with much more players than this (edited)
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with the great reset I only see recent players fighting for top points,rank and teamrank which will make the game more exciting and make it feel fresh
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The lack of accounts also stops any kind of progression system you can think of. No levels, no achievements
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Learath2
Honestly, a reset is the only way this game ever properly moves forward. It's kinda doomed as is. Even with just 3k players it's getting very annoying with people having conflicting names. This approach of everyone takes whatever name they want doesn't really work out with much more players than this (edited)
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:47:40Z
I think the best idea is to wait a little
21:47
Like a year or a half
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To let everyone move to accounts
21:47
Then maybe think about resetting
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
Like a year or a half
It'll get even worse as people collect more and more points on these legacy names
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@Vy0x2 add me 🙂
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i think season 2 couldve been discussed a lot more, both before deen announced it (so discussing more internally) and then also with the community
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Learath2
It'll get even worse as people collect more and more points on these legacy names
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:48:40Z
There will be less people playing without accounts
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After some time
21:48
Less and less only
21:49
So the % of players wanting to keep the old ladder will be less (edited)
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Quite doubtful, but I guess we'll see
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seems like a weird solution, i think i hard reset would be more refreshing
21:50
for me personally atleast
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:51:15Z
Wait, is the season2 cancelled already?
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:51:26Z
I didn't read the last thing in announcements until now
21:51
Damn
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Twitter cancel culture destroys anything huh 🥹
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just create ddrace 2 and have it to coexist with the original game greenthing
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Teeworlds Nations Forever
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Pedro_
just create ddrace 2 and have it to coexist with the original game greenthing
Or with a diffrent name
21:54
bbrace
gigachad 1
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ttrace
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:54:40Z
Btw I'm amazed of the fact that there wasn't really a real ddrace+ or sth. like that (edited)
21:54
Which would differ a lot from the original
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its actually a nice idea
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:55:15Z
The thing is open source and no one makes anything new
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@Learath2 if the rankings got stored like the OLD ranks then people could see all their ranks and progress before accounts are added,but yeah the duplicate name problem has been a plague for a really long time but if I understand correctly with the accounts system then people would still be able to use the same name if it works like discord? since discord only changes the four numbers after the #
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 21:58:04Z
There could be added sth like admin names highllighted in tab for people with accounts
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all of the clients (teeworlds ddnet etc) are able to play together but if they make another game with accounts, achievements player of the other clients and the new game wont be able to play together
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NovaShock
@Learath2 if the rankings got stored like the OLD ranks then people could see all their ranks and progress before accounts are added,but yeah the duplicate name problem has been a plague for a really long time but if I understand correctly with the accounts system then people would still be able to use the same name if it works like discord? since discord only changes the four numbers after the #
The idea was that you get a discord like name, and we'd use the name part of it to show "legacy points", with no guarantee of them actually belonging to the account
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Rotarite
all of the clients (teeworlds ddnet etc) are able to play together but if they make another game with accounts, achievements player of the other clients and the new game wont be able to play together
Thats not true kog has accounts too yet U are able to Play with Account
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Without*
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If we are being honest, most people that use other clients use bot clients anyway 😄 People that use non ddnet, non bot clients are like a statistical error
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that ppl just play block no?
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Learath2
If we are being honest, most people that use other clients use bot clients anyway 😄 People that use non ddnet, non bot clients are like a statistical error
Most people that don't use bot clients or ddnet client probably use tclient
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I've switched back and forth a few times with tclient
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Learath2
The idea was that you get a discord like name, and we'd use the name part of it to show "legacy points", with no guarantee of them actually belonging to the account
ah ok that makes more sensefeelsbadman hopefully this idea wont go to waste
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Broso56
Most people that don't use bot clients or ddnet client probably use tclient
Yeah, that's the only non-ddnet client that isn't a bot with any significant amount of users
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Learath2
The idea was that you get a discord like name, and we'd use the name part of it to show "legacy points", with no guarantee of them actually belonging to the account
What speaks against that Idea
22:08
This way people could get their Accounts and keep old ranks under old names
22:08
Which in fact they could continue using anyway
22:09
Nobody would be forced to create an account
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212 voted yes, 38 voted no
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Meow~
Nobody would be forced to create an account
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I have 20k+ but im all in with this idea
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You'd be forced to create an account at some point I think
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Alexander
212 voted yes, 38 voted no
212 voted yes but not really to this idea. Most of them seem to have other fantasies in mind that we can't really meet
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hmmmmm
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I voted yes for reset points, add accounts
22:11
Mostly that
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Alexander
I voted yes for reset points, add accounts
x2 i have 20k+ too
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Wouldnt this be a fair compromise
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I feel like the accounts system would fix many issues
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Like in kog i have there account too but many dont and they can Play an collect points
22:12
I dont get why this is so big of a deal
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deen
yeah, that was a lot of the feedback I got too
its such bs tho. Ive heard the "im quitting tw" 1000 times
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Meow~
I dont get why this is so big of a deal
I guess people with a lot of points just don't want their points to be called "legacy" and have to collect the new "real" points
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Learath2
The lack of accounts also stops any kind of progression system you can think of. No levels, no achievements
skill based ranks
22:16
imagine
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I think the Big difficulty were that the community had the Chance to influence to direction of season2 where the dev team cant catch up
22:17
I would Like to See s2 with accs and all but im gucci how it is rn
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Learath2
I guess people with a lot of points just don't want their points to be called "legacy" and have to collect the new "real" points
I have 20k+ but i would Love to See Accounts and stuff and i think when We pull Off a fair compromise between old ranks and how to call those and the possibility to not force ppl playing with Accounts it would be OK for the community
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And the Thing is the current Points dont Provide any information besides how long do u play ddnet on a daily Basis
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I mean it could be okay if you could still play without an account too and continue collecting points there
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Alongside accounts
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whatever floats your boat i guess
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Meow~
And the Thing is the current Points dont Provide any information besides how long do u play ddnet on a daily Basis
+1
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Meow~
And the Thing is the current Points dont Provide any information besides how long do u play ddnet on a daily Basis
Even that they don't really provide much information on with people finishing maps for eachother
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 22:27:51Z
Is it possible that some test servers with the account systems would run for some time and then if all works well the thing is merged?
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Well if they decided that they won't be implementing the accounts system then I highly doubt that they will even be working on it
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Alexander
Well if they decided that they won't be implementing the accounts system then I highly doubt that they will even be working on it
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-11-17 22:30:10Z
Depends on how hard the task is
22:30
Maybe a test implementation wouldn’t require too much resources to make
22:31
But at this point I guess such discussions are already pointlesspepo
22:31
Though I still wanna hope they are not
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Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance
Though I still wanna hope they are not
Me too
22:33
I think both systems can co-exist
22:33
And i swear as soon as some Player would to Express how joyful those new systems are Everbody would start again
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jao's hairy kebab 2022-11-17 22:51:36Z
they are testing us to see if we really would want that
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