DDraceNetwork - general

tela

i think relying on steam in anyway is a bad idea, people shouldn't have to have that program installed

People using steam can rely on steam, open source players shouldnt have anything to do with steam though

people who use ice:

yeah as long as we had access to that stuff it'd be fine

people who use water:

@deen What's the true purpose of Season 2? Actually reset the ranks or with another purpose like making the game more attractive-idk?

having accounts, that would be a huge change

You dont have to ping deen every time

wait

00:01

ohhh i get it

00:01

if ddnet is so good, wheres ddnet 2

Floral Strobe

@deen What's the true purpose of Season 2? Actually reset the ranks or with another purpose like making the game more attractive-idk?

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3411#issuecomment-746169480

Accounts · Issue #3411 · ddnet/ddnet

If anyone wants to summarize the discussion, feel free to. I just wanted to create the issue now.

00:01

have a look here

reseting the ranks isn't the objective, just a minor consequence of accounts

cyberFighter

if ddnet is so good, wheres ddnet 2

If ddnet 2 is supposed to be good then why is there no mention of ddnet 3???

Floral Strobe

@deen What's the true purpose of Season 2? Actually reset the ranks or with another purpose like making the game more attractive-idk?

i want it to look prettier. yes the graphics are fine, but management with it is very.. off

tela

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3411#issuecomment-746169480

Thanks I get it now

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cyberFighter

if ddnet is so good, wheres ddnet 2

https://hookrace.net/blog/writing-a-2d-platform-game-in-nim-with-sdl2/

Make season 2 servers incompatible with legacy teeworlds clients so we can get more features

where can i explain my small gripes with how graphics are set up in images?

00:04

would #off-topic work?

Dayum, discussion seems heated on GitHub aswell

I think its step in right direction, ddnet should progress and eventually deny old principles, hope next step will be stopping integration with vanilla and 07 with upgrading network protocol and adding more customisation to client from server side

Anime.pdf

I think its step in right direction, ddnet should progress and eventually deny old principles, hope next step will be stopping integration with vanilla and 07 with upgrading network protocol and adding more customisation to client from server side

Actually no, I think 0.7 integration is a must. There are no players already, this would make it worse imo

Floral Strobe

Actually no, I think 0.7 integration is a must. There are no players already, this would make it worse imo

Good

00:11

0.7 had nice graphics and client features but gameplay was horrible

we need to mediate

00:11

(idk i just like how that word sounds)

lmao

Voxel you should learn figma if you havent already

Voxel

where can i explain my small gripes with how graphics are set up in images?

what are your gripes? curious

00:12

i think here is fine to discuss that

game.png is super unoptimized, and very unorganized. red is weapon related, green is particle related, blue is HUD related, pink is map objects

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ya true, some of the entities locations dont make sense either, but thats because they got added over time

00:13

not sure about game.png

00:14

i really dislike the assets 'grids' that people make that have lines separating, that 1px line belongs to one of the sections and its unclear

Okay but what about skins, they could also have additional stuff like hats

entities should really like, compress checkpoints into one square as well, treat it like a speeder or smth where you can give it a value from 1 to 25

00:15

this is how a grid should be imo

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Alexander

Okay but what about skins, they could also have additional stuff like hats

some issues w hats

Damn

Floral Strobe

Actually no, I think 0.7 integration is a must. There are no players already, this would make it worse imo

0.7 is 4 years old and its completely dead, ddnet is successor and should get better with every update because people like something new and shiny greenthing

(edited)

What issues

like it cant fit every skin

Voxel

game.png is super unoptimized, and very unorganized. red is weapon related, green is particle related, blue is HUD related, pink is map objects

sg/nade/lazer shields should also be in pink :> sorry xd

louis

like it cant fit every skin

Dont understand what this means

Voxel

entities should really like, compress checkpoints into one square as well, treat it like a speeder or smth where you can give it a value from 1 to 25

i think moving the stuff around tho makes backwards compatibility hard, lots of players still use old clients

Lunaris

sg/nade/lazer shields should also be in pink :> sorry xd

fair fair

You mean that not all skins are created equal and the hats would be offset for some skins?

why do we still support them?

would have to add something to detect version and refer to an older image, which now means shipping with 2 images

Alexander

You mean that not all skins are created equal and the hats would be offset for some skins?

yes

and tbh moving stuff around might look nicer to us dorks who edit assets often, but it really isn't solving much

No way its happening

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00:17

Microtransactions next

louis

yes

Are you thinking about hats as accessories that you can add to every skin or making them a part of the skin file

if there were micro transactions id quit

Stepfunn

Microtransactions next

40$ for twerking twinbop (edited)

twibop

ddnet needs to stay foss, but i'd be cool with a patreon

Voxel

twibop

Minor spelling mistake

tela

if there were micro transactions id quit

Well it will benefit the game moren then you cud ever moderate with all your energy

00:18

Ngl

you can spend your money on the servers or artists that Make the hats possible

So if you want to quit because of that go ahead

Stepfunn

Well it will benefit the game moren then you cud ever moderate with all your energy

hmmm how

Stepfunn

Well it will benefit the game moren then you cud ever moderate with all your energy

Average micro transactions enjoyer: nouis

Voxel

you can spend your money on the servers or artists that Make the hats possible

Can you draw nsfw pinky with noby colors

bro if microtransactions happen im just gonna code my own shit in thats pretty much alike

Anime.pdf

Can you draw nsfw pinky with noby colors

no

it's insane to me that people are so conditioned to accept micro transactions that they actually WANT them

Voxel

no

Why

If they add microtransactions im gonna make them macrotransact their money to my account for new maps gigachad

as long as paying doesn't effect skill at all tho, it wouldn't effect me

tela

hmmm how

Better servers, more players, prizemoney for tournies, rewards for people that actually put money into the game to support it

i think that could be done with something like patreon too

Sure bahaha

but yeah i'm all for finding a way to get money to develop

ok we combine hats with lootboxes so everyone is happy

hats are cute

Why did it not happen yet then? Cus nonone would spend that much money to only be able to play the game (edited)

micro transactions should be an absolute last resort imo

dont support microtransactions but maybe a supporter subscription

Loot boxes is gambling

00:21

Go ahead and support gambling

00:22

Have fun dealing with those kind of people

it's sad that people see mtx as something negative take Path of Exile system as a proof of concept and tell me what's so bad about mtx

i just donate to fund servers once a year, i'm happy to do that

if ur gonna monetize do a monthly supporter package similar to osu

i will not stop rolling till I get my nouis beanie

that just shows smth like supporter on ur profile

lol

00:22

i'd buy louis merch

00:23

ive been meaning to screen print ddnet shirts and either give them out for free or donate money to servers

Stepfunn

Go ahead and support gambling

I like gambling, i cant buy fast food after gambling = healthy life greenthing

How much do you pay a year for servers @tela

@deen would be nice if next to "achievement" it would be written how many % of players have it, like in steam

Microtransactions = bad Monthly supporting = good

i think i did about 80 dollars

00:24

usd

00:24

it was whatever the full server yearly cost was

support donations support for: servers, developers, map makers/designers, stuff like this

Yea and those 80 dollars go into servers that get dosed/ddosed 5 month of those 12 months straight

00:24

Good investment

what are you suggesting lmao

00:25

dont donate to servers?

Stepfunn

Yea and those 80 dollars go into servers that get dosed/ddosed 5 month of those 12 months straight

How would mtx fix ddos problem you nobo

Pepega

No im suggesting microtransactions

00:25

Only way to provide for good solide servers

Alexander

How would mtx fix ddos problem you nobo

more money to afford expensive properly protected servers?

yeah naw i see your point tho, its a pretty successful way to motivate people to cough up the cash

Yea people are just troll or to short sighted to unserstand here

microtransactions ❌ ❌ ❌

00:26

supporter subscription best model im telling u

it's not that we don't understand it's that we have a moral dilemma against micro transactions

It is what it is. There is a reason why every big game uses microtransactions

I dont think many people would spend money on mtx if they dont spend it on servers already

$4.99 a month, u get ddnet supporter role, it gives u nice badge on profile and maybe a bit of exclusive cosmetics as long as u have it (edited)

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louis

supporter subscription best model im telling u

Maybe with some visual benefits, people like to stand out greenthing

Stepfunn

It is what it is. There is a reason why every big game uses microtransactions

There is a reason why every big game is not open source too but here we are

louis

$4.99 a month, u get ddnet supporter role, it gives u nice badge on profile and maybe a bit of exclusive cosmetics as long as u have it (edited)

golden name on all ddnet servers

louis

$4.99 a month, u get ddnet supporter role, it gives u nice badge on profile and maybe a bit of exclusive cosmetics as long as u have it (edited)

100%

microtransactions are shit cuz ppl start whaling

And whats bad about whaling?

louis

$4.99 a month, u get ddnet supporter role, it gives u nice badge on profile and maybe a bit of exclusive cosmetics as long as u have it (edited)

Small supporter badge near nickname on servers with ddnet accounts integration on

00:27

louis

$4.99 a month, u get ddnet supporter role, it gives u nice badge on profile and maybe a bit of exclusive cosmetics as long as u have it (edited)

and an only very very slightly increased tee hitbox to make edgehooks easier

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whaling? as in p2w games that have no connection to visual mtx whatsoever?

Benefits the game after all

00:28

Exactly

its just morally wrong for me

00:28

it makes an infinite paywall essentially

Microtransactions has nothing to do with p2w

while supporter is same benefits for all

where did that paywall even come from in your mind wtf D:

Stepfunn

Yea and those 80 dollars go into servers that get dosed/ddosed 5 month of those 12 months straight

the solution will be there once a stronger server will be up to back it up

like to get the same cosmetics as the drippiest guy you will need to whale the same amnt

louis

yes

Is it not possible to have the option to only allow hats with certain skins?

00:29

Sorry if it was already mentioned, I skimmed

Skeith

Is it not possible to have the option to only allow hats with certain skins?

Or just dont put a hat if your skin looks bad with it

Ya

Skeith

Is it not possible to have the option to only allow hats with certain skins?

like with the default skins that come with client

Or add option to offset the hat

Skeith

Is it not possible to have the option to only allow hats with certain skins?

yea but it gets much more complicated the more hats and skins u have

00:30

like 300 skins and 50 hats = 15000 combos to check (maximum) (edited)

Just add a rule that the hats should look normal on all vanilla default skins

"urhuruh look at my SHINY NEW SKIN its animated and EVERYTHING. the perks of microtransactions" the open source devs coding in their own client sided animated skins to not give a fuck:

louis

like to get the same cosmetics as the drippiest guy you will need to whale the same amnt

So your the kind of business guy who would never be successful with his business cus its morally wrong

Cause almost every good skin is based on the default ones

Stepfunn

So your the kind of business guy who would never be successful with his business cus its morally wrong

yea but the thing is ddnet isnt a business

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Absolutely

louis

yea but the thing is ddnet isnt a business

nor is it americam

I think this is another issue of over policing things that you personally find ugly, if it's really a problem, you can just allow hiding hats for specific people, client-side, similar to hiding emotes?

Stepfunn

So your the kind of business guy who would never be successful with his business cus its morally wrong

Go stream something

100%,agreed

00:31

But do you like playing on servers that get ddosed every day almost?

00:31

Is that what motivates you to keep playing?

Skeith

I think this is another issue of over policing things that you personally find ugly, if it's really a problem, you can just allow hiding hats for specific people, client-side, similar to hiding emotes?

And of course a way to hide other peoples hats if you dont like hats or they look ugly af

Ok serious, I never thought about getting donations to support tourneys or entire servers if the game's gonna expand a notch. Sponsorship is definitely possible, if done right. At least I plan on making it right for 2024 if the next year won't do well for me and for my projects

Stepfunn

But do you like playing on servers that get ddosed every day almost?

Dude mtx over monthly subscription doesnt fix the damn ddos

Stepfunn

Is that what motivates you to keep playing?

PAY 5 DOLLARS A MONTH TO WHITELIST YOURSELF FROM DDOS ATTACKS!

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Stepfunn

But do you like playing on servers that get ddosed every day almost?

deen already doesnt want to accept donations over the yearly server costs so why would you think he would say yes to microtransactions

I don't think anyone wants this game to have MTX

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Alexander

Dude mtx over monthly subscription doesnt fix the damn ddos

You are so short sighted its crazy

00:33

Cant make everyone understand it is what it is

NovaShock

deen already doesnt want to accept donations over the yearly server costs so why would you think he would say yes to microtransactions

Never said he woulf say yes but that is what the game needs to stay alive

Stepfunn

You are so short sighted its crazy

Adding benefits for monthly subscribers would draw more people to subscribing

Also I'm not supporting an idea of sending out a service, that lets you have a private server access for whatever amount of real life value, since DDoS is not being used by DDNet, thus would be very abusive towards the community as if DDNet's struggling

Ddos almost killed off the game multiple times

Micro transactions aren't gonna get us enough money to buy fancy ddos free servers

Benefits as in a badge next to ur name to stand out

that shit is way out of range for us

Stepfunn

Ddos almost killed off the game multiple times

And as we moved on, we get more devs finding solutions for those DDoS attacks if you haven't noticed. They need time and effort to complete such a task

im broke send money i wil fix yor ddos

00:34

:)

ok guys hear me out... pay 5 dollars a month to have a more stable tee during gores gameplay (this investment route will skyrocket because bores players would buy like a years worth)

tela

Micro transactions aren't gonna get us enough money to buy fancy ddos free servers

That only time will tell. But if you never try you will never know

Voxel

ok guys hear me out... pay 5 dollars a month to have a more stable tee during gores gameplay (this investment route will skyrocket because bores players would buy like a years worth)

I don't wanna hear it. If all you care is money, no

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you need a team of people designing new visual perks constnatly to keep a consistent income

I think the nameplates could have better customization to begin with, the smallest you can make it isn't very small, I shouldn't feel forced to hide names (edited)

otherwise everybody buys once and then we get a nice server for 1 month

Cellegen

I don't wanna hear it. If all you care is money, no

cellegen i was joking LOLOOLOLOL

Also to keep getting enough money for your damn ddos servers people would have to keep buying shit meaning every so often you have to add a new shiny cosmetic so people can spend their money on

Voxel

cellegen i was joking LOLOOLOLOL

we don't have people to keep designing that shit for free

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And yet there will be people who will

Exactly

and nothing in place to stop people from just sharing the game.pngs you get

what if yu r broke

tela

otherwise everybody buys once and then we get a nice server for 1 month

And again just prove thaf you didnt think ahead at all. If you implement this kind of concept its obviously not gonna work from the getgo

I'm down on making entertainment for the Teeworlds community next year, let it be a failure or success

You need to give it a few months and see how things develop and take the appropriate steps

yeah see if ravie wants to design 100 new hats a month that every chinese player buys

00:38

see if that develops

tela

and nothing in place to stop people from just sharing the game.pngs you get

Why would it be a problem, since Assets from DDNet has no licence requirements and Teeskins (Teedata) has CC BY-SA 4.0 as some sort of protection

100$ a hat (edited)

And thats the amazing thing about all this. People like ravie will even earn money from this. Crazy right? And thats gonna attract more amazing artists

00:39

And boom in 3 months you have 10 artists making skins

tela

yeah see if ravie wants to design 100 new hats a month that every chinese player buys

Bro, I'm planning on organizing all 5000+ Assets on skins.tw and you cry about somebody not doing hats?

00:39

I would be GLAD to do that!!

Crazy right. What a far fetched idea

i'm not complaining about somebody not doing hats lol idrc ab hats

but you still mention, that nobody will (in an ironic tounge) (edited)

naw im just saying its unrealistic to be churning out enough graphics

I guess there was a convo long ago about cosmetic shop in Teeworlds, but instantly got scrapped due to it making no sense to do it

Well i can clearly tell this is not going anywhere. Cant make you agree with my opinion. Deen has to decide that after all and we all know the answer to that. Really sad because its so much lost potential (edited)

tela

you need a team of people designing new visual perks constnatly to keep a consistent income

thats facts a subscription is generally a lot more stable

the client's free, the assets are free and everything else is up by the community

gotta be consistently generating a ton of graphics and rely on consistent buyers

Magnum would be ashamed if we make real life value exchanges on tw

i mean itd be nice to have a stable pay for graphic design, but would you REALLLY want to put it behind a paywall?

there would have to be some major changes to ddnet to make micro transactions actually work

tela

gotta be consistently generating a ton of graphics and rely on consistent buyers

Guess you dont understand the concept of microtransactions then

Cellegen

I guess there was a convo long ago about cosmetic shop in Teeworlds, but instantly got scrapped due to it making no sense to do it

cosmetic shop would be good as long as its not costing real world $$

its usually based on you having the png downloaded

Cellegen

Magnum would be ashamed if we make real life value exchanges on tw

How a gun can be ashamed

Who said you need to publish 100 skins a month

and it would be easy to just have one person buy it and then hand it out to everyone else

people come to teeworlds since its a free game,I imagine if they had the money they would spend it elsewhere

the servers are yearly or montly costs

00:43

and really nice servers that offer ddos protection are super expensive

louis

cosmetic shop would be good as long as its not costing real world $$

Maybe exchanging points for skins, but not with the same points you get from ranking up the leaderboard

00:43

but I'm not interested in real life investing

Cellegen

Maybe exchanging points for skins, but not with the same points you get from ranking up the leaderboard

From donation points troll

we're talking hundreds of dollars a month for a nice server

I guess that also works as a "Donor pack"

i just dont think ddnet has the playerbase to support micro transactions, atleast to the scale of buying ddos protected servers, monthly, consistently

00:44

regardless of if people would hate it or not

Well i have to go sleep. Would love to discuss this topic more but kinda running into a wall with all the gatekeepers here.

Broso56

i just dont think ddnet has the playerbase to support micro transactions, atleast to the scale of buying ddos protected servers, monthly, consistently

Noo stop being short sighted so much lost potential, think about the money!!

the only argument against mtx im getting so far is pretty much "i'm not gonna buy skins and that's the reason nobody should be able to"

But guys, main issue. The game's free and everything in it should be accessible by everybody, including Assets

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also its an open source game

We would need a new engine and a new concept for the game to make it work

00:45

Like, fuck that

i would think (maybe im just wrong) that would cause a lot of issues for paid cosmetics

it'd be way easier to discuss with you if you didn't turn it into an argument

Im guessing a lot of devs would stop developing for free

Lunaris

the only argument against mtx im getting so far is pretty much "i'm not gonna buy skins and that's the reason nobody should be able to"

Yea crazy that you are the only guy that understands

Unlocking cosmetics for reaching point milestones / achievements sounds cool, but ya... Having it for MTX sounds like a very slippery slope.

I mean the artists are gonna earn but what about the devs who poured 10 years into the game? (edited)

i just dont think its possible, not for ages

Well back then I was shitting on the devs for not doing anything, until this day I want to suduku cuz of that statement I put at them

00:46

it would take so much planning and for everything to go well for mtx to stand a chance at funding anything useful

I appreciate it now much more

@Cellegen are you the person behind skins.tw?

If the devs say that the game don't need transactions or shops, I'll take their side

Alexander

I mean the artists are gonna earn but what about the devs who poured 10 years into the game? (edited)

Omg please stop talking. You were just cringe and brought 0 value to the conversation the whole time. Obviously devs are gonna benefit from This as well

tela

@Cellegen are you the person behind skins.tw?

Main organizer of it

appreciate ur work there bro

thanks, but still have a lot to do

Stepfunn

Omg please stop talking. You were just cringe and brought 0 value to the conversation the whole time. Obviously devs are gonna benefit from This as well

You are talking like the game is gonna gain 10 million dollars in two days and everyone will be happy

i'd be down to help a bit if you need some

The only thing this game really needs funding for is server costs, and it seems to be getting by with just a donate button... ddos protection is semi unrealistic

Alexander

You are talking like the game is gonna gain 10 million dollars in two days and everyone will be happy

Ok, real talk, did you see our message from a while back?

Guys no need to argue I have a solution

00:48

$8 a month for a blue badge next to your name

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funman

$8 a month for a blue badge next to your name

Can i have red one

00:48

but guys... nobody understands... so short sighted... crazy to me... you must prefer ddos....

Anime.pdf

Can i have red one

$20

Alexander

You are talking like the game is gonna gain 10 million dollars in two days and everyone will be happy

Not thats what you are interpreting into this. Stop trying to insert yourself into a convo when you have literally nothing valuable ro say

tela

but guys... nobody understands... so short sighted... crazy to me... you must prefer ddos....

I must prefer patience and trust to the devs

00:49

we all should do that

facts

funman

$20

Sounds good to me greenthing

Why dont you stop telling everyone their opinion is wrong when everyone is literally against yours

im recognizing that mtx can generate money, i'm saying it's a morally inferior alternative to smth like supporter subscriptions, and requires more upkeep/work (edited)

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facts

i honestly just straight up dont think mtx would work, morals aside

This conversation is giving me vibes of block chain ddnet

louis

im recognizing that mtx can generate money, i'm saying it's a morally inferior alternative to smth like supporter subscriptions, and requires more upkeep/work (edited)

Yeah I think people would donate more if it showed in game that they are a donator

not without insane planning and execution

louis

im recognizing that mtx can generate money, i'm saying it's a morally inferior alternative to smth like supporter subscriptions, and requires more upkeep/work (edited)

I don't see a good use of that

DoS Solution: Massive lan party at deens house

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true

DOWN

funman

Yeah I think people would donate more if it showed in game that they are a donator

And with an account system it’s possible now

Deen will be the ddos filter with a shotgun on his hands

yes

murpi

DoS Solution: Massive lan party at deens house

Buying a ticket to Germany asap

louis

im recognizing that mtx can generate money, i'm saying it's a morally inferior alternative to smth like supporter subscriptions, and requires more upkeep/work (edited)

it's not mutually exclusive

im fuckin down, Teecon let's go

00:50

murpi

DoS Solution: Massive lan party at deens house

Only for supporters though justatest

we shall meet at the server office trollge

Better pay up https://ddnet.org/funding

Oh yeah, if you don't donate 20$+ to funding, you cannot go there

btw @Stepfunn im not tryna hate, ur a chill dude and i like watching ur streams

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Donate 20$ pay 300$ to fly there

tela

btw @Stepfunn im not tryna hate, ur a chill dude and i like watching ur streams

but he's malding all the time

tela

btw @Stepfunn im not tryna hate, ur a chill dude and i like watching ur streams

Name change is cringe tho

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00:52

Sounds like some stepbro thing

lmao

00:53

fun with step bro

louis

im recognizing that mtx can generate money, i'm saying it's a morally inferior alternative to smth like supporter subscriptions, and requires more upkeep/work (edited)

I dont understand why you all think mtx requires you to put in alot of work. You can literally just publish a skinpack for example once very 3 months that includes 5 skins and it would still be perfetly fine. Mtx is not forcing the gamedevs and artists to put in hours of there time every day to provide foe that

funman

Sounds like some stepbro thing

you watch too much porn

The user has the rights, unrelated to the game, to change your username to your heart's content

00:53

as long as there is an account part of it

Stepfunn

I dont understand why you all think mtx requires you to put in alot of work. You can literally just publish a skinpack for example once very 3 months that includes 5 skins and it would still be perfetly fine. Mtx is not forcing the gamedevs and artists to put in hours of there time every day to provide foe that

for it to generate enough money for ddos protection i would imagine its a lot more planning/work than that

Broso56

for it to generate enough money for ddos protection i would imagine its a lot more planning/work than that

yep, need actual devs to set up ddos filters and proper networking to the server

00:54

which a regular server host cannot do

if we really wanna get down to it, i know the devs have peeped some fancy dos protection servers, let's see how much money they are per month and see how many skin packs + cost of each it would take every month to keeping the servers paid consistently

tela

btw @Stepfunn im not tryna hate, ur a chill dude and i like watching ur streams

Im totally fine with your opinion. No hate here at all. I just see this out of the most optimal way in my opinion. Im fine eith that if you dont agree

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Lunaris

you watch too much porn

Idk man his name is having fun with step siblings

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yes and outside of porn context that is absolutely.. fine?

Stefan when someone subscribes to his twitch instead of donating money for a perk:

Broso56

for it to generate enough money for ddos protection i would imagine its a lot more planning/work than that

Yea and the devs and artist already put a shit ton of work into the gamr every day without anything coming back to them

tela

if we really wanna get down to it, i know the devs have peeped some fancy dos protection servers, let's see how much money they are per month and see how many skin packs + cost of each it would take every month to keeping the servers paid consistently

Well me and Rei did some sort of solution for open tourneys and worked better, than expected, so tournaments are not going to be an issue to host with some methods we'll do in the future

00:56

I hope it's worth doing my project at least, otherwise it's just ddos fest

Stepfunn

Yea and the devs and artist already put a shit ton of work into the gamr every day without anything coming back to them

for sure, but i just dont think mtx is realistic

Lunaris

yes and outside of porn context that is absolutely.. fine?

Btw I never said porn so your mind is going there too

like sure you could add mtx and generate some income with that but i doubt its getting enough funding

00:57

not with how small this game is and how expensive ddos protected servers are

Well boys and girls its way to late would love to keep talking about this but its time for sleep sleep. The decision is not ours anyways

fair enough (edited)

Stepfunn

Well boys and girls its way to late would love to keep talking about this but its time for sleep sleep. The decision is not ours anyways

Gn stepbro

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Broso56

like sure you could add mtx and generate some income with that but i doubt its getting enough funding

Chinese would spend a hell lot of money on everything looking different from other players greenthing

lmao

Okay lets make a deal: they add mtx, if it doesnt succeed in a year: stefan has to pay for the servers for the full year

funman

Btw I never said porn so your mind is going there too

well name another reason what's wrong with step-fun :>

4

just add battlepass

Lunaris

well name another reason what's wrong with step-fun :>

Just ignore him. Not the only kid in here (edited)

why did people decide mtx is mutually exclusive with everything else?

500 points you get +1 skin BUT with battlepass pro u get +5skins +10 gameskins +50 extra points

Stepfunn

Just ignore him. Not the only kid in here (edited)

I’m not even a kid. The name just sounds weird to me. I get it’s your real name

wtf is that name

01:00

hi stepfunn

Lunaris

why did people decide mtx is mutually exclusive with everything else?

People have one straight concept of how mtx works and you will not be able to change their minds

@Stepfunn are u really called stepfun irl

Stefan

oh

Thats my real name

thats a generic name

Ok

Wait why are you steffunn then

cyberFighter

hi stepfunn

Imagine his step mom forgot his name but he looked very funny so she named him step funn after his step brother

I thought you had a p in your name

Stepfunn

Stefan

cyberFighter

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Lol

01:02

Ok gn you weirdos

Anime.pdf

Chinese would spend a hell lot of money on everything looking different from other players greenthing

Bruh, I don't want chinese propaganda in here

Cellegen

Bruh, I don't want chinese propaganda in here

30 social credit, you have to give ur cat wife back to government now

01:03

NOT MY CAT

01:04

btw #announcements pog, I'll hurry with the project then

What project

you know, the hmmmmm

Oh, THAT project greenthing

Cant wait to see the twerking twi... Ops, nearly spoiled it

sounds like a splendid idea to me

(edited)

Anime.pdf

Oh, THAT project greenthing

Cant wait to see the twerking twi... Ops, nearly spoiled it

Public teehistorian would be nice alongside season 2

no!

1

01:19

well yes with strings attached plz

I think it'd be cool, a more competitive season

a replay review system to let the community regulate itself would be great I think

pog, we'll finally review the rank 1 demos to learn from them pog pog

cs:go overwatch, but for ddnet

In-game report system with reporting directly someone's account poggers2

someone's "acc"

no? more? macroyale

plzz r1 demos only available after 2 weeks

01:23

here i have a legitimate reason: if someone does a gamebreaking cheat then it's harder for others to find out and abuse, so devs have more time to fix

"gamebreaking" this whole game is working on gamebreaking bugs

"gamebreaking cheat" finishes ideally be removed if the "cheat" is removed

Anime.pdf

"gamebreaking" this whole game is working on gamebreaking bugs

so lets release all skystrife maps !!!!

Voxel

so lets release all skystrife maps !!!!

Never heard of them justatest

#deleted-channel

Looks fun

Anime.pdf

"gamebreaking" this whole game is working on gamebreaking bugs

only one

01:29

sg bug

Hooking between tiles, edgehooks, deepfly are bugs as well

01:34

I think even hookfly is a bug

01:34

Or hammerfly

01:34

All flies (edited)

Collision bugs to gain mad speed, tp gun bugs.

01:35

Speeder arrows are quite buggy

01:35

The slow down at high speeds

01:36

Explosive bullets only affecting one person at a time seems buggy XD

Ninja is very buggy as well in many ways

Shotguning a wall to get upward speed or floor to get forward speed

Whole game is built around unintended bugs

(edited)

Strong tee falling down when held in stoppers

Stoppers are super buggy tho

Strong tee having a stronger hammer when holding it after unfreezing

01:40

There’s a ton of weak/strong bugs that are odd

Yeah like lasering for a rocket jump in freeze

Soapy Sandwich

Yeah like lasering for a rocket jump in freeze

That might also Have to do with client id like hammering in freeze

And that bug that crashes my editor sometimes XD

Double jumping to stop your momentum, falling through kill tiles at a certain distance / reverse speedfly. Weak hook affecting how high a person can grenade themselves in freeze unless you bounce it off a tile,

01:41

so many bugs

Skeith

so many bugs

Bugs??? No bugs! Only features

2

1

Skeith

Double jumping to stop your momentum, falling through kill tiles at a certain distance / reverse speedfly. Weak hook affecting how high a person can grenade themselves in freeze unless you bounce it off a tile,

dj to stop momentum is nice actually

Ya, it's cool

I assumed Dj stopping momentum was intended originally tbh so not a bug (edited)

Used a lot in speedrunning, optimizing movement

01:44

It definitely feels like a bug

louis

dj to stop momentum is nice actually

Yeah it really ought to be that way

01:46

Imagine using a dj which adds vertical velocity

wym by dj to stop momentum?

If you are falling too fast it would just slow you a bit

you mean the fact that dj resets your vertical speed?

If you're going fast upwards, if you dj, you'll come to a stop, basically

01:46

Ya

yeah that is very much intended afaik

Oh? interesting

That’s how all platformers with dj are

and it feels very weird if you change it, I experimented a bit with very weird physics

You would think it'd just use your double jump with no actual effect

think of double jump as having a temporary platform right under you, taking a step on solid air if you will

01:48

you are jumping on that small cloud animation

Also stacking on top of each other and shooting a shotgun giving max speed upwards and leftwards was intended afaik

Now that one I don't think so

Skystrife

Also stacking on top of each other and shooting a shotgun giving max speed upwards and leftwards was intended afaik

Duh, we looking for bugs here

Wouldn't really call it intended, since shotgun didn't pull you originally, in vanilla

01:50

Definitely a bug

01:50

The reason as to why it happens? Dunno

Stealthy troll remains undetected. xd

Yoo ddrace season 2 (troll??)

Weapons don’t do damage in ddrace maybe fix that bug

true

Skeith

The reason as to why it happens? Dunno

It is an overflow error when sg hits the middle of the tee the game doesn’t know the direction to pull (edited)

Skeith

The reason as to why it happens? Dunno

I assume it uses division by the distance between the tees or something which results in a math error and it substitutes an infinite value.

Anyway more bugs let's go XD

01:52

Hitting things on the otherside of tp before teleporting

01:53

Hitting 2 tps at the same time

Oh tps are buggy af too

Clipping into some stoppers

Tees die of old age XD

client id bugs

The bug that causes you to get stuck on a tile randomly, never actually seen it happen before, personally

Swap places with tp gun is buggy XD

Learath2

Clipping into some stoppers

Do you know if the client id bugs would be easy to fix or not? They are really annoying to tell what’s wrong bc client id isn’t readily available

Skeith

The bug that causes you to get stuck on a tile randomly, never actually seen it happen before, personally

Is it only the corner of a tile?

Skeith

The bug that causes you to get stuck on a tile randomly, never actually seen it happen before, personally

There was a setup where people found it and can repeat it quite easily I think Louis put it in a map

Skystrife

Do you know if the client id bugs would be easy to fix or not? They are really annoying to tell what’s wrong bc client id isn’t readily available

Wym by client id bug?

Ya, saw it

01:56

Seems like one of the craziest bugs to have happen to you

I think Jimmy jazz and Novashock found it

Learath2

Wym by client id bug?

For example if someone in freeze hammers someone else but has a higher client id and weak than the person they are hammering the person holding space in freeze will use dj when jumping

Oh those, they are almost impossible to fix

01:57

Not without some huge refactoring

Nothings impossible I believe

01:57

That's more accurate XD

Soapy Sandwich

Nothings impossible I believe

Hence the almost

Learath2

Oh those, they are almost impossible to fix

Do you think it's a good idea to have some changes to weak / strong with season 2? It's one of the most heavily debated changes

01:57

Probably, ya?

Such a huge refactor would be very hard to do with something like ddnet where people are used to every single subtle mechanic. We might break so much unintentionally

Why change it ?

Having weak feels worse overall

Let's remove strong

Skeith

Do you think it's a good idea to have some changes to weak / strong with season 2? It's one of the most heavily debated changes

I'm not touching anything controversial, you'll have to lobby someone else

1

It's definitely a now or never type deal

Oh killing on timed switches is buggy

I don't mind weak/strong if we add a better way to handle it, maybe add some UX for it

Learath2

Oh those, they are almost impossible to fix

sad

makes sense though

I want a toggle for it

Spec

Like spec, but without the cheese

Magic edge is buggy.

Just do the solo first troll

Skeith

Do you think it's a good idea to have some changes to weak / strong with season 2? It's one of the most heavily debated changes

there is sv_no_weak_hook_and_bounce 1, but that doesnt actually affect weak bounce only weak hook and strong hammer for some reason

Skystrife

there is sv_no_weak_hook_and_bounce 1, but that doesnt actually affect weak bounce only weak hook and strong hammer for some reason

Just that change was broken too btw

02:01

I think they fixed it again but it's really hard to properly fix deep physics bugs like these as they stem from the way the code is organized in the first place

02:01

We just have to bolt the fixes on, go after each tick and try to fix the inaccuracy caused by ordering of tees

I agree we can't fix anything so must embrace the features

1

We could maybe fix a couple things like stopper clipping and some weirdness with tees inside eachother for season 2 if people want it

Learath2

We could maybe fix a couple things like stopper clipping and some weirdness with tees inside eachother for season 2 if people want it

Stopper clipping would break/make a lot of maps harder or more annoying tbh

Skeith

I want a toggle for it

could everyone have it enabled and weak is essentially removed

02:04

cause im in favor for that anyways

Can we fix dummy maps that allow team finish for season 2 XD

Can we make /spec not cause the tee to despawn and keep everything else? (Including the spawn particles?)

02:05

So you can easily tell when someone swaps (edited)

Skystrife

Stopper clipping would break/make a lot of maps harder or more annoying tbh

I don't mean clipping from the side btw, that is intended. I mean clipping with high speed

02:05

Tho I guess that is also probably used by some maps

Can we fix shotgun bug so it gives you speed in the direction you're aiming instead of just up and left. Embrace the feature!

Learath2

We could maybe fix a couple things like stopper clipping and some weirdness with tees inside eachother for season 2 if people want it

Please, make polls about what the community should vote for

1

Soapy Sandwich

Can we fix shotgun bug so it gives you speed in the direction you're aiming instead of just up and left. Embrace the feature!

eeeeeh, not sure, I guess maybe, but there is no way to clip tees into each other other than spec

Learath2

eeeeeh, not sure, I guess maybe, but there is no way to clip tees into each other other than spec

…

Tp gun?

Cellegen

Please, make polls about what the community should vote for

Just chatting around for now, we just need to collect some ideas first

Teleport?

I have a map with like 12 different ways

Ninja also stacks

katana allows it

Hm, I guess teleports are consistent enough

And maybe with perfect speed you can stack

Soapy Sandwich

And maybe with perfect speed you can stack

Yes but that’s very hard to get a setup so it’s never reliable enough

Soapy Sandwich

And maybe with perfect speed you can stack

If someone didn't fuck up majorly I think there should be no way

Soapy Sandwich

And maybe with perfect speed you can stack

That sounds insanely unrealistic lol

Skystrife

Yes but that’s very hard to get a setup so it’s never reliable enough

Yeah I don't wanna try different speeders for hours XD

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Soapy Sandwich

Yeah I don't wanna try different speeders for hours XD

I already did and couldn’t get a setup XD

Learath2

If someone didn't fuck up majorly I think there should be no way

With speed you can move through other tees so stacking seems possible

Actually, I can think of one way to do it with speed maybe. I don't remember the exact conditional but maybe if a tick of movement can exactly put you into another tee

02:09

like bang on the same coordinates after 1 single tick

yeah unfortunately strong/weak is a hard bug to fix

@Learath2 just have a stable value for sg and apply it to the player's velocity

If you are even a bit off the physics code will definitely push you out

not scale with how fast did you hit the sg

I think /spec is widely accepted, minus the cheese. If the despawning can be removed, it'd probably be ideal

02:10

Strong / weak is such a massive part of the game, may as well have a command for it

Maybe support from Q-move? would qshar accept it?

Skeith

Strong / weak is such a massive part of the game, may as well have a command for it

It's such a massive yet such a subtle part which is why it feels like shit to anyone that hasn't played ddrace for a decade

Feels like shit for me still

You think you've learned to drive a hammerfly, suddenly 50% of the time you can't restart after dropping from heights

02:12

No explanation for it whatsoever

Sometimes recovering with weak is just hopeless no matter what you do

Skeith

Sometimes recovering with weak is just hopeless no matter what you do

well dj is pretty consistent due to it removing all your previous speed I guess

Ya, but if you have no dj, suffer

I guess if you are at an insane speed it might not be enough though

02:13

Yeah, no dj means you hammer down and pray to teegods

Game: So you want to reverse speedfly, eh?

dj canceling your velocity has it's good sides, many people would feel awkward playing without that mechanic

Yeah I'm sure that's intended XD

Cellegen

dj canceling your velocity has it's good sides, many people would feel awkward playing without that mechanic

Oh it feels straight up awful if it doesn't. I can host a server with it sometime

I mean, reseting your horizontal velocity, when player goes down makes sense right?

Oh, I was never suggesting the removal of it, I was just mentioning "bugs"

02:16

Dj cancelling velocity is cool as hell

Isn't it going to be built from the ground up again?

?

Haha doubt

Like the engine is fine, but reworking tee's mechanic entirely

Cellegen

I mean, reseting your horizontal velocity, when player goes down makes sense right?

Never noticed a horizontal reset

We aren't really planning on touching much of the physics at all. Some people suggested it might be a good idea to fix some of the more useless bugs

Learath2

It's such a massive yet such a subtle part which is why it feels like shit to anyone that hasn't played ddrace for a decade

Is it possible to have sv_no_weak… also work with bounce like the name suggests or is that too much refactoring to implement?

Just chatting around

like the sg bug

02:18

I can only think of that

Skystrife

Is it possible to have sv_no_weak… also work with bounce like the name suggests or is that too much refactoring to implement?

I think it already should work, doesn't it?

02:18

You should get an equal bounce from an equal height no matter weak/strong

Learath2

I think it already should work, doesn't it?

I would have assumed it would fix the weak bug with falling and gaining velocity but it does not

you don't get equal bounce if the player is moving up or down

Skystrife

I would have assumed it would fix the weak bug with falling and gaining velocity but it does not

But other than that setups are not the same with bouncing with that command on that I’ve made so I’m pretty sure bounces are unchanged with it

02:20

Hook works perfect tho from my testing

Hm, I think either fokkonaut or Jupstar made the patch. I’ve been away for a bit so I didn’t really review it

Soapy Sandwich

Magic edge is buggy.

magic corner is my favorite feature

05:20

a fun surprise every time

05:21

3

holy shit

05:30

ddnet 2

Aoe

lmao imagine people listing accounts on player auctions with 10k points - 100 euro, 20k points - 300 euro etc xDD

@ Starkiller

If ddnet 2 starts not in the summer (any year) so I can yolo all novices in one go I would be sad

can't wait to be the first to claim 'nameless tee' and sell it as a rare name troll

(edited)

5

im going for 'G' then

05:49

10 years later: ddnets history of 1 letter names

can't wait do be more worth than minecraft

Soapy Sandwich

And maybe with perfect speed you can stack

Once I was going into unsolo part with dummy copy and crossed it with presumably 0 speed so I simply stayed inside my dummy

Money money money

06:34

It really turns people blind

06:34

Quite sad

Is it mean rankpoints will be deleted too?

06:44

A cool months of spam ranks coming (edited)

06:44

Time to unpack my bot again

Meekrioz

Time to unpack my bot again

️

Meekrioz

Time to unpack my bot again

dm me the bot? :D

Broso56

dm me the bot? :D

Im not botting justatest

yea but i could bot for you

blushes

drools

RonIn

Is it mean rankpoints will be deleted too?

Oh no

can dummies have their own name? instead of it being [D] [name] which is the automatic thing in this game when you setup dummy

Jump with L is available yes

best name

worst

Silence.

u

what will happen to our saves? i dont want to play ravillion again :/

you'll have to play a lot more than ravillion again

50€ I finish for you

Brokecdx-

50€ I finish for you

can you finish me?

08:27

I am sure deen got a plan, for now let’s enjoy koule week poggers

3

they released?

08:27

pog

08:29

where koule

@Skeith senin gibi admini

Brokecdx-

50€ I finish for you

50€ finish Teamrank 1 at Kobra for me

2

Gazebr

Once I was going into unsolo part with dummy copy and crossed it with presumably 0 speed so I simply stayed inside my dummy

Sounds like a feature to me xD

omg! OMG!! I absolutely love the idea of this season2 and all the opportunities it opens up! And as someone who earned quite some points along the way i would love to get those wiped cause often when i open tw and i only see finishes next to the maps i just dont feel like playing cause i be like "dont need to do it again" so that would be kinda like a fresh start (even when its kind of an illusion)

Knuski

omg! OMG!! I absolutely love the idea of this season2 and all the opportunities it opens up! And as someone who earned quite some points along the way i would love to get those wiped cause often when i open tw and i only see finishes next to the maps i just dont feel like playing cause i be like "dont need to do it again" so that would be kinda like a fresh start (even when its kind of an illusion)

Knuski

omg! OMG!! I absolutely love the idea of this season2 and all the opportunities it opens up! And as someone who earned quite some points along the way i would love to get those wiped cause often when i open tw and i only see finishes next to the maps i just dont feel like playing cause i be like "dont need to do it again" so that would be kinda like a fresh start (even when its kind of an illusion)

not sure if u're sarcastic or not

this is my reaction to point wipes

David*°Villa

not sure if u're sarcastic or not

Im actually not trolling

09:15

Im all down for it

just wanted to make sure xD

time to finish the garbage map known as chilldontkill again

I also like the idea. But I know already how the top-rankings will look like then

(edited)

All the europeans will come back

09:16

All of the people who havent touched the game in a while

09:16

Will come back

09:16

And strike

starkiller would probably kill himself

Bruv I can't even imagine the grind people are gonna put in at the start

09:17

Gonna be so hype to watch

I can imagine someone will get 10k in one month

09:17

Easily

I wonder if people will take an account in shifts, like I do daytime, you do night

Xd

Cipy29

I wonder if people will take an account in shifts, like I do daytime, you do night

Good idea... EUR player sharing with ASI player would be perfect

Wait, no, don't give them ideas

09:20

Delet this

btw, 10 year existence when? Date?

July

09:22

Dunno day

It feels kinda unfair to the old players who spent a lot of time on this season to just wipe it, instead it would be cool to still have the old ladder together with the new one at least for some time after the new season starts

09:25

Although I understand how much data the servers will have to process

i dont think that asian players who grinded 20k points in one year would be amused about starting at 0 again

(edited)

1

How do the chinese players even get informed of this xd?

Knuski

How do the chinese players even get informed of this xd?

I'm doing my part

16

Cipy29

I'm doing my part

bing chilling - > be chilling

10:10

Even tho majority are all for this wipe I think its better to inform everyone through the client itself, since even my friend who play a lot dont check this server

10:12

If the old system is kept along with the new one it will be jank but noone will have any probalems with wiping their stats, but if its a replacement to the old system I bet many will disagree

Knuski

omg! OMG!! I absolutely love the idea of this season2 and all the opportunities it opens up! And as someone who earned quite some points along the way i would love to get those wiped cause often when i open tw and i only see finishes next to the maps i just dont feel like playing cause i be like "dont need to do it again" so that would be kinda like a fresh start (even when its kind of an illusion)

need a solution for the ranks tho..

all ranks wiped

10:16

ddnet servers are gonna be like supermarkets in black friday

10:16

for the rank 1s

no thats never gonna happen

Why u are talking about wipe if its not written anywhere? I guess all player names gonna save all the points and u still can finish for any name. Accounts is about map finishes, not the points. And for motivate people to finish maps there gonna be achievemebts which are connected to account

Kicker

Why u are talking about wipe if its not written anywhere? I guess all player names gonna save all the points and u still can finish for any name. Accounts is about map finishes, not the points. And for motivate people to finish maps there gonna be achievemebts which are connected to account

But for future development there can be rewards for top speedrunners as well as other stuff which requires us to rerun all the shit and its inevitable that this wont happen because accounts open up literally a whole new world for the game

@Brokecdx- when 4q again

Brokecdx-

But for future development there can be rewards for top speedrunners as well as other stuff which requires us to rerun all the shit and its inevitable that this wont happen because accounts open up literally a whole new world for the game

Ye thats right, i didnt think about rank points

Maybe in ddnet season 2 broke will like me again

no one likes you

ok sory

10:24

meekroiz does

spur

no one likes you

Brokecdx-

But for future development there can be rewards for top speedrunners as well as other stuff which requires us to rerun all the shit and its inevitable that this wont happen because accounts open up literally a whole new world for the game

Or it can be done with achievements too. Something like "hold 10 rank1 at the same time", "set ur first rank1". And we keep old rank points system which linked to the name, not to account

Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance

It feels kinda unfair to the old players who spent a lot of time on this season to just wipe it, instead it would be cool to still have the old ladder together with the new one at least for some time after the new season starts

The old ladder will be shown or even used probs

10:28

Idk where ppl got this wipe idea from xd

Yea, its not written anywhrre about wipe

A pre account rank is a valid rank still

10:29

So if it were me i would show it on top5 too

10:29

Its just not bound to an account

Yeah right but, if i have an account it wont be linked to my account then

Yeah

Yes, u will have to beat ur old rank from db to get the achievement

yeah thats the issue

What achievement?

The achievement of being at the top when some ranking command is called

Ah

10:30

Well thats life

lmao

No rank is unbeatable

Ok well if it’s not wiping then I am okay with it and I’m changing my vote

We could also add badges to accounts, e.g tournament #xx winner

10:32

And ofc i wouldnt say no to a "dev" badge hehe

10:32

perma ingame ban badge, perma discord bab badge

Ryozuki

We could also add badges to accounts, e.g tournament #xx winner

Yeah let’s go, then we add pets, exclusive skins…

Yeah and sell our soul to capitalism

10:33

Nah a badge is a good way to promote volunteers

10:33

Such as developers, testers

10:33

Translators

You can even have special skins just for this particular account and stuff

10:33

many many many many new features inc

When u join a server its gonna be "Dev Ryozuki enterened and joined the game"

I dont think skins should be exclusive

10:34

And its hard to enforce that anyway

Imagine if you get a special skin if you have 1 rank

It would be cool tho

Everyone sees it but only you can use it

And the idea of paying for skins isn’t thaaat bad

10:34

But still you can remake any skin

@Brokecdx- on unique clan servers you hold the flag if you have rank 1

Bit2 r1 skin YEP

Ryozuki

@Brokecdx- on unique clan servers you hold the flag if you have rank 1

10:35

But if my acc has 0 ranks i cant have any sad

Just get em

1

10:35

Colored names in chat based on ur badge like in discord brownbear

10:37

Anyway who gonna do all this work for free

10:38

Still Not gonna happen in years probably

Hard to say how long it can take

10:39

For now nothing is started as far as i know xd

Ryozuki

I dont think skins should be exclusive

just add tf2 unusual effects

10:48

wipe all ranks and points pls greenthing

starkiller rn hearing about season 2 and accounts

17

-$500

xd run 30303849392839 point

when koule mep release

when season 2 release

Is this like some fortnite stuff and we will have ddnet "broken" for 3 days

@Arne could you enable your vods? I would love to check out the 63 player team event

ryuma

@Arne could you enable your vods? I would love to check out the 63 player team event

I will upload the video on youtube in the next couple of days, but if you wanna watch it from the stream it should be online now https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1650683431 (edited)

Dafuk happened back then

dont most people who reacted with yes have like 20k points?

Yes, they can play the game and (probably) just want something new, people who have 2 (fake) finishes on insane maps after 10 years of play and showing it off cares about points

If people know ur name, u don’t need any kind of points gigachad

5

havent heard of most people who are in top 10

Anime.pdf

Yes, they can play the game and (probably) just want something new, people who have 2 (fake) finishes on insane maps after 10 years of play and showing it off cares about points

how to have fake finishes (edited)

Dev7z

how to have fake finishes (edited)

Ask someone to finish map on ur nickname

14:09

I even know guy who sells finishes troll

RonIn

If people know ur name, u don’t need any kind of points gigachad

Who are you?

I know a guy who buys finishes troll

(edited)

2

Kinda absurd, but acceptable

Anime.pdf

I even know guy who sells finishes troll

his business plan doesnt seem to have a future

Anime.pdf

Ask someone to finish map on ur nickname

at that point you can give someone your account for them to finish

natchies

Who are you?

Finish seller

14:10

Giving someone account would probably be risky since they could just change the password

Dev7z

at that point you can give someone your account for them to finish

But you will you have risk of loosing account (idk how it will work tbh) and accounts will prevent unwilled finishes, for example you have the slowest 10hours run you set for fun, random troll will finish it for you and you couldn't ever roll it back (edited)

every finish is a good finish if you ask me

Well, would be nice to introduce new kind of purchase to the black market, rank buying think_bot

Hope, admins won’t catch us greenthing

n9 ranks store (edited)

Nice domain

14:18

I can make a website XD

Botted ranks + ban 20 euros

14:19

Not botted - 50€ (edited)

14:19

any black friday sales?

RonIn

Botted ranks + ban 20 euros

Can I preorder?

No

14:43

No

Anime.pdf

Dafuk happened back then

Lots of East Asian streamers/video makers picked up DDNet

deen

Lots of East Asian streamers/video makers picked up DDNet

Actually makes sense

14:51

I love china

Arne

I will upload the video on youtube in the next couple of days, but if you wanna watch it from the stream it should be online now https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1650683431 (edited)

niceeee

holy shit

9

15:10

what does he spend his life on

DDNet, duh

4

MineSell

holy shit

Just a deeper face lol

(edited)

MineSell

what does he spend his life on

I know a guy who had +300

15:21

Yes, had

15:22

Another guy got 7 minutes with his nick

MineSell

holy shit

gigachad playin ddnet

2

when season 2

Yesterdaynt

MineSell

holy shit

deeper moment

MineSell

holy shit

Not even 30 hours, hes too fast

Gazebr

Not even 30 hours, hes too fast

@0x314 kekw when finish

Hi

16:15

im banned the 1 day but im not blocking the people

16:15

no reason

you were bad boi, so karma

dude im turkish

16:17

my english is not good

16:17

I'M NOT A BAD PERSON :((

16:17

I'M A GOOD PERSON :((

16:17

I HELPING THE NEW PEOPLES

@Alessiaa what is your ingame name?

deen

@Alessiaa what is your ingame name?

Pes Etmez ❤️