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fully federated pepeW

01:06

mfw we are never getting accounts because we can't settle for anything less than perfect

Learath2

mfw we are never getting accounts because we can't settle for anything less than perfect

ok, I'm sure discord is still fine for tourneys as authentication

Learath2

fully federated pepeW

fully what

Learath2

mfw we are never getting accounts because we can't settle for anything less than perfect

accounts good but the season 2 stuff discussed is meh unless its really good imo

Have to rip the bandaid sooner or later

01:23

There is no fix to the issue, have to just accept it and move on

Learath2

There is no fix to the issue, have to just accept it and move on

wat issue

There is no way for us to identify and move 1000 peoples points to their new accounts

oh yeah

01:25

well the way i see it is that without adding some new substance, the season 2 is essentially just adding achievements and setting pointcount of everyone to 0

Learath2

There is no way for us to identify and move 1000 peoples points to their new accounts

you forgot asia

True, make it 3000

which will be fun for a while but will just become a chore at some point

Well if you come up with something, let us know

i say set points to 0, but then shove all the currently rls maps in "legacy" pool, limit achievements for legacy pool (maybe up to like get 10,000 legacy points) and release all future maps under quality rules and add new features

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Just don't add accounts 4head isn't a good solution

01:28

You still lose your legacy points and have to get them back, how does that help?

but the legacy points are given less value

Besides how is our entire map pool becoming legacy helping anyway? Most maps released meet pretty high quality standards anyway, not like mapping changed that much to justify archiving everything else

and you can focus on new released maps, possibly with diff features or ranking system

01:30

yes well that's an issue i guess, a lot of recent maps are very high quality

01:30

but over half of them aren't

01:30

ddmax, etc

01:30

the way i see it is if you set everyone back to square one, you should give something new or at least slightly changed to work to

ddmax and oldschool aside which are for archival mostly anyway, I think the rest of the pool is pretty clean except for some very ugly solo and run maps

I think becoming overly strict when it comes to maps / skins is a bad thing, you just end up with less options.

well i wrote on the github but my very radical view is remove all the jank tiles and jank maps for a new season

01:32

i think people would be more happy with a legacy point pool than not, because without a legacy pool it seems like they have to re-do all their progress

Speeders and stoppers getting fixed up for a new season would be good imo

01:33

Purging the entire map pool to legacy would imo be a little too radical

i support purging a large majority and hand-picking a lot of the better qualities and classics

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2130 /var/www/releases/releases we have upwards of 2k maps, I don't think we'll realistically be able to hand-pick much here

well depending on the criteria you could

01:36

maybe like the well-known ones

Ban stronghold

Accounts would give us some really neat ways to reward players, like account locked skins, unique server join messages, profile badges for achievements etc (edited)

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I was going to suggest removing the ability to skip through kill tiles, doors, etc. But I know there's one map that requires passing through a door using said glitch

Skeith

I was going to suggest removing the ability to skip through kill tiles, doors, etc. But I know there's one map that requires passing through a door using said glitch

see that's why you transfer all that stuff to legacy pool

01:38

and start off with clean tiles, maybe add in a weapon or some new (nicely working) tiles

01:38

encourage mappers to come back, and then hopefully all goes well

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/src/engine/client/keynames.h this list shows f1-f24 as available keycodes, but the game doesnt seem to recognize f20-f24. Is this the case for anyone else? (edited)

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Is it that the button doesn't seem to be recognized or if you do bind f20 sth it doesn't work?

ya

01:48

bind f20 echo test

01:49

works for 1-19

but is it the binding that doesn't work or is it that pressing the button doesn't trigger the bind

There should be a seasonal map pool

01:49

Which could function as a sort of monthly competition

good point, it seems to bind it but the button doesn't trigger it

01:49

as in, there's no errors when binding

With high quality maps

tela

good point, it seems to bind it but the button doesn't trigger it

Hm, I don't even know how I'll test this, where did you even find a device with f20?

lol, i use via/vial keyboard firmware, it lets change any key on the keyboard to anything. I basically am finding "dummy keys" to put on my mouse, so I can set my mouse button to say f24, and then in game bind f24 to something

louis

Click to see attachment 🖼️

even on this monstrosity there is not even f13

tela

lol, i use via/vial keyboard firmware, it lets change any key on the keyboard to anything. I basically am finding "dummy keys" to put on my mouse, so I can set my mouse button to say f24, and then in game bind f24 to something

can you try to bind something to f20 in the controls menu?

let me try

01:53

nope

01:53

doesn't work*

Ok, I have no idea how to debug this, I'll investigate how I can send an f24. If I can't I'll give you a test build to see what is going on there

awesome thanks

01:57

if you happen to have a logitech mouse, the ghub software lets you bind mouse keys to f24

01:58

maybe autohotkey can send them too

01:58

looks like razer synapse also will let you

tela

if you happen to have a logitech mouse, the ghub software lets you bind mouse keys to f24

I have a logitech mouse, I'll try tomorrow

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no rush, thanks a lot

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well heinrich probs doesnt care about rust analyzer working correctly xd

I don't care insofar that I don't use it. if someone wants to fix it (or report a problem via github issues), I'll take a look though

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@heinrich5991 you have to read all this xd

what specifically should I read? I read everything, but where do yo uwant a response (wasn't obvious to me)

actually i think f13-15 don't work either. 16 17 18 19 do tho

02:31

f13 seems to get registered as printscreen

02:37

scroll lock and pause too lol. I'll stop there but there seems to be quite a few

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

55f77b3 update workspace with better rust defaults - Jupeyy 64edc3c Merge #6034 - bors[bot]

02:38

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #6034 update workspace with better rust defaults

does anyone know if a player can skip a solo/unsolo tile with enough velocity? (edited)

cant

03:39

only with ninja

heinrich5991

what specifically should I read? I read everything, but where do yo uwant a response (wasn't obvious to me)

No answer. More about what makes sense to be respected

tela

scroll lock and pause too lol. I'll stop there but there seems to be quite a few

f13-f15 usually are print, scroll lock and pause on "modern" keyboards

yeah for sure, i just figured since they're listed in that keycodes page that they'd function as is

louis

but over half of them aren't

yes I agrea, if season 2 will happen then all old ddmax maps should be deleted from ddnet. @Learath2 Theres no point in keeping it as some sort of legacy (trash container - if no improvements would be done to those maps).

xddd

It's true that adding account support is really cool, though i'm afraid it will drive experienced/old players away from the game

i doubt it will drive then away, and if they do its their loss

I still don't know what's going to happen to top players ranks. Will they just disappear or smth?

08:38

Will there be any rewards?

Idk

I see a simple solution to that. You go into ranks and you see Season 2 ranks. There would be some link or tab or "something" to make you see Season 1 ranks. Season 1 ranks would be only as a "text" not assigned to anyone/anything (so no rewards for new accounts - you would spend tooo much time to try to verify that person is that actualy that person also season 1 ranks were cheated by all players even those top ones).

But they will be archived probs