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Between 2022-09-14 00:00:00Z and 2022-09-15 00:00:00Z
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@DDNet
02:05
who tf
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when buff kill protection
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ダルベーブ♡ 2022-09-14 04:46:32Z
pls tell me comand off freaze
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what are you trying to do exactly?
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ダルベーブ♡ 2022-09-14 04:48:33Z
Do you know the command in f1 to remove the black skin during freeze
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cl_show_ninja 0
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ダルベーブ♡ 2022-09-14 04:49:17Z
😄 thx bro
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Ayo is ger10 whitelist now?
04:58
Epic
04:59
But why isn't there a captcha
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#off-topic
06:02
06:04
even tho there arent any pins
06:04
kek
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Broso56
even tho there arent any pins
yes there is
06:05
"I can speak to matricks" ok but is matricks even in the tw server anymore
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not in gen
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Good morning
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@Pgashpg gmm
13:04
@Discord Mod
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@Meekrioz shut
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Stepfunn
@Meekrioz shut
Shut yo skin tone chicken bone extra chromosome ass up
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Meekrioz
Shut yo skin tone chicken bone extra chromosome ass up
D: Rude moderator. I will report you to the authorities
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Stepfunn
D: Rude moderator. I will report you to the authorities
I will say "it was my brother"
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can someone tell me how to join ger10 (edited)
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i just blocked 6 people at finish line
14:03
need more mods to be active
14:03
or im gonna continue doing what i want
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@Pgashpg visit http://ger10.ddnet.tw/ in your browser
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worstwish
or im gonna continue doing what i want
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worstwish
need more mods to be active
Because of people like you we need more mods lol
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Pgashpg
can someone tell me how to join ger10 (edited)
what client and version do you use btw? it should work automatically with recent ddnet
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latest master build, first connection to ger10 hangs on "Getting game info", all following connections to ger10 returns "No response from server" (edited)
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teeworlds be like (edited)
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deen
what client and version do you use btw? it should work automatically with recent ddnet
wheere can i check it
14:46
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ger10.ddnet.tw
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not working
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connect to http://ger10.ddnet.tw through browser (chrome, firefox, edge, safari, whatever), then you can access it ingame
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Chairn
latest master build, first connection to ger10 hangs on "Getting game info", all following connections to ger10 returns "No response from server" (edited)
on all servers?
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i still cant join
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heinrich5991
on all servers?
ger10 i meant
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@Chairn can you send me a wireshark package dump?
14:50
in DM
14:50
ah
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only no answer from server
14:50
that's not interesting
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uh, ive never done that 😄
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nvm, "no answer from server" isn't really interesting
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i can reliably reproduce hanging on "Getting game info" if i wait i'd say 10 minutes between connections
14:51
only on ger10
14:51
other servers work fine
14:52
on this commit: b48ac7d5f (HEAD -> master, upstream/staging, upstream/master) Merge #5833 (17 hours ago) par bors[bot]
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY @jana pogU
🎉 10
15:07
FeelsBirthdayMan
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can you hellp me
15:50
join ger10
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?? map??
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every ger10 server
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Pgashpg
Click to see attachment 🖼️
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can you send a screenshot of your browser with http://ger10.ddnet.tw/ ?
15:57
white screen and later crash
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which browser?
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opera gx
15:58
vpn off
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do you have another browser installed that you could try?
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@Davide ^
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microsoft edge
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does it load there?
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same situation
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then I don't know the solution, sorry 😦
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deen
@Davide ^
I don't see issues about the TCP filter
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thanks anyway
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@Davide works fine to me
16:03
so dunno
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Pgashpg
thanks anyway
Maybe disable your windows internet security for one time
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i tried it
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Also the same result?
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Try it in incognito?
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Maybe it's something related to the auto-blocklist, I made a cleanup, try now
16:06
Basically, if you send too many (UDP) packets to a DDNet server post you get automatically blacklisted, yesterday I modified some parameters on this logic, maybe the threshold need to be increased
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Davide
Maybe it's something related to the auto-blocklist, I made a cleanup, try now
Let me know if that fixes your issues @Pgashpg
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everything working now ty all (edited)
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Pgashpg
opera gx
Imagine using opera gx
17:30
Only chrome or firefox
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And tor
17:30
For buying illegal tees
17:34
chrome takes 200
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%
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of ram
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imagine using browsers like chrome (microsoft edge user)
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its all chromium anyway
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Pgashpg
same situation
i also have the same situation, and it never worked for me yet ^^
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Jupstar ✪
i also have the same situation, and it never worked for me yet ^^
@Davide ^. Jupstar can probably also tell you his IP address or help you debug
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traceroute to ger10.ddnet.tw (45.141.57.22), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 fritz.box (192.168.188.1) 0.638 ms 0.839 ms 1.002 ms 2 p3e9bf402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (62.155.244.2) 9.910 ms 10.236 ms 10.276 ms 3 217.5.117.54 (217.5.117.54) 13.698 ms 14.024 ms 14.062 ms 4 217.5.117.54 (217.5.117.54) 13.821 ms 15.461 ms 15.726 ms 5 80.157.204.58 (80.157.204.58) 15.764 ms 16.008 ms 16.069 ms 6 ae0.cr7-fra2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.137.6) 20.449 ms ae1.cr7-fra2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.137.14) 15.755 ms 15.783 ms 7 ip4.gtt.net (213.254.224.178) 16.909 ms 14.740 ms 16.750 ms 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * it dies somewhere in frankfurt xd
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ehm, don't put your ip here?
18:16
@Jupstar ✪
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i just blocked 9 people and they couldnt finish
18:16
where are the mods
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Chairn
ehm, don't put your ip here?
no but defs some nodes near to me xd
18:16
so if u want to ddos NRW, go ahead xD
18:16
10ms is probs düsseldorf
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Jupstar ✪
traceroute to ger10.ddnet.tw (45.141.57.22), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 fritz.box (192.168.188.1) 0.638 ms 0.839 ms 1.002 ms 2 p3e9bf402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (62.155.244.2) 9.910 ms 10.236 ms 10.276 ms 3 217.5.117.54 (217.5.117.54) 13.698 ms 14.024 ms 14.062 ms 4 217.5.117.54 (217.5.117.54) 13.821 ms 15.461 ms 15.726 ms 5 80.157.204.58 (80.157.204.58) 15.764 ms 16.008 ms 16.069 ms 6 ae0.cr7-fra2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.137.6) 20.449 ms ae1.cr7-fra2.ip4.gtt.net (89.149.137.14) 15.755 ms 15.783 ms 7 ip4.gtt.net (213.254.224.178) 16.909 ms 14.740 ms 16.750 ms 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * it dies somewhere in frankfurt xd
Seems like you can't reach the server (edited)
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my last hop is this: but i can join the server 7 datacamp-8.gw.opentransit.net (193.251.141.220) 13.085 ms 13.303 ms 13.152 ms
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@Jupstar ✪ Try now
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8 datacamp-ic337377-ffm-b4.ip.twelve99-cust.net (213.248.70.154) 17.954 ms datacamp-ic357608-ffm-b5.ip.twelve99-cust.net (213.248.96.162) 15.408 ms datacamp-ic337377-ffm-b4.ip.twelve99-cust.net (213.248.70.154) 17.601 ms then it died
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Please try the MTR to 45.141.57.99
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its pretty similar
18:19
traceroute to 45.141.57.99 (45.141.57.99), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 fritz.box (192.168.188.1) 0.614 ms 0.769 ms 0.924 ms 2 p3e9bf402.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (62.155.244.2) 8.942 ms 9.198 ms 9.260 ms 3 d-ed6-i.D.DE.NET.DTAG.DE (62.154.4.214) 275.990 ms 276.166 ms 276.155 ms 4 d-ed6-i.D.DE.NET.DTAG.DE (62.154.4.214) 277.180 ms 277.248 ms 277.305 ms 5 ddf-b2-link.ip.twelve99.net (80.239.132.144) 28.536 ms 28.490 ms 28.682 ms 6 ffm-bb1-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.135.150) 74.930 ms 70.890 ms 71.214 ms 7 ffm-b5-link.ip.twelve99.net (62.115.114.89) 91.274 ms 91.459 ms 94.028 ms 8 datacamp-ic337377-ffm-b4.ip.twelve99-cust.net (213.248.70.154) 17.976 ms 15.300 ms datacamp-ic357608-ffm-b5.ip.twelve99-cust.net (213.248.96.162) 16.730 ms 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * 13 * * *
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Give me your IP in PM, let's see
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you can't change the route like that, you need to give it time to propagate information node per node
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Mystery solved
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Chairn
you can't change the route like that, you need to give it time to propagate information node per node
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Chairn
you can't change the route like that, you need to give it time to propagate information node per node
My upstreams are pretty fast, they need only few seconds to be prepended/changed 🙂
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you don't control other nodes in between
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Chairn
you can't change the route like that, you need to give it time to propagate information node per node
how would you do that?
18:31
whats the flag
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Chairn
you can't change the route like that, you need to give it time to propagate information node per node
but anyway with tcp it works anyway
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Chairn
you don't control other nodes in between
???
18:38
@Chairn yes I can, the network is mine
gigachad 1
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hi
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Chairn
you don't control other nodes in between
You can see it from the MTRs, I changed his route from GTT to Twelve99
18:39
😅😅
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Davide
You can see it from the MTRs, I changed his route from GTT to Twelve99
h4x0r
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Ravie Senpai
h4x0r
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spanish?
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Minerva22
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qq
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a que bueno que no se mucho ingles 😦
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Minerva22
a que bueno que no se mucho ingles 😦
#off-topic please!
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Rule #5
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Davide
You can see it from the MTRs, I changed his route from GTT to Twelve99
how well does your network handle the ddos? or is the network built to play hide and seek with attackers and changes network per connection? ^^
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Jupstar ✪
how well does your network handle the ddos? or is the network built to play hide and seek with attackers and changes network per connection? ^^
Basically we have big uplinks and we do challenge the traffic
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ok nice
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If the client passes the challenge, then its allowed
18:42
Else, dropped
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i see, well i hope it works out, e.g. next tournament ^^
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The DDNet challenge is still in beta
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would probs be the first tournament ever without ddos xD
18:42
or without lags*
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Without DDoS?
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Jupstar ✪
or without lags*
Oh ok
18:43
😂😂
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Jupstar ✪
i see, well i hope it works out, e.g. next tournament ^^
well we did host the last tournament on ger10, problem with tournaments is that they get insane amount of ddos, no amount of filtering will realistically help without some insane uplink
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Learath2
well we did host the last tournament on ger10, problem with tournaments is that they get insane amount of ddos, no amount of filtering will realistically help without some insane uplink
mhh ok, thought the hide and seek works enough, or the challenge
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Jupstar ✪
mhh ok, thought the hide and seek works enough, or the challenge
"Hide"?
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Davide
"Hide"?
thats ur next improvement ^^, make a trust factor and give less trusted ppl a "worse/more often used" routing
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WTF are you saying xD
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what dont u understand about it
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Maybe the fact that this can't be done
19:03
🤣
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with multiple reverse proxies i could do it
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Routes isn't a good word there
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and if u can literally control the network that sounds possible without it
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Davide
Mystery solved
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thanks 😄
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Jupstar ✪
and if u can literally control the network that sounds possible without it
I can control the upstreams, but making someone going to a pre-determined upstream and someone not, that's not possible
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A hoster won't have enough routes to make this a reality, but you could instead have many proxies hosted on different networks with good peering. Then it's sensible
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Learath2
A hoster won't have enough routes to make this a reality, but you could instead have many proxies hosted on different networks with good peering. Then it's sensible
mhh yeah fair enough
19:05
well time for smone to finish reverse proxies then
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Though it does add a flat 10ms to everyones pings 😄
19:05
Atleast
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Not the best thing for a latency-game like DDNet
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if u choose enough servers in fra
19:06
do you think they can ddos whole frankfurt?
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I think 100kpps/IP are enough
19:06
Because DDNet is very sensible to DDoS traffic
19:06
😄
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Davide
Not the best thing for a latency-game like DDNet
Well it's also the only reasonable solution given no hoster will filter 200g for us, atleast not for a sane price
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Learath2
Well it's also the only reasonable solution given no hoster will filter 200g for us, atleast not for a sane price
I'm doing a 400G upgrade soon, just wait for it
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Yeah but how long can you tolerate us using 200-250g of it?
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That's not an issue
19:07
😄
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lmao
19:08
ddnet biggest internet network in the world in 10 years
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Well if that's the case, then ger10 is indeed a better solution than proxies
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When I'll finish the filter, can be
19:08
Now, nope
19:08
I already said to Deen that the filter is in Beta testing
19:08
😄
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but wasnt there some hoster that tried with filters already
19:09
and failed
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As I said, the DDNet filter is in beta
19:09
And not ready
19:10
😅
19:10
But yes, the server is online
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Jupstar ✪
but wasnt there some hoster that tried with filters already
Fan had a decent filter built too, but I think they just kept breaking our internal database connections and stuff too
19:10
Heard they improved a lot, I think @fokkonaut is still using them
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ok anyway @Learath2 tho, reverse proxies would at least give pros stable connection, bcs i could host a server and only share with ppl i know and tournaments are realisticly only about pros
19:10
so i still think for tournaments it would be nice
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Learath2
Heard they improved a lot, I think @fokkonaut is still using them
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Jupstar ✪
ok anyway @Learath2 tho, reverse proxies would at least give pros stable connection, bcs i could host a server and only share with ppl i know and tournaments are realisticly only about pros
My hope with reverse proxies isn't our own proxies actually, the game changer there would be steam datagram relay
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Learath2
My hope with reverse proxies isn't our own proxies actually, the game changer there would be steam datagram relay
yeah ^^
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fokkonaut
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Weren't you still using ddos protected servers from that one guy who offered us one way back when?
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@Learath2 I am at another hoster, we built a teeworlds firewall during the past few months. This is what GER3 is running right now too. Massive attacks have been filtered already, and its being updated frequently.
19:12
I got a testserver for deen
19:13
KoG is still using secured.gg, but their filtering doesnt work, and they gave up on it at some point
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They are using basically a whitelist, @ReiTW code I think?
19:13
I summon you @ReiTW haha
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who tf pinged me
19:14
🤣
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fokko kinda works with his host to filter traffic
19:14
but true he has my code too
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I dont use it anymore
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and that also true
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Oh, okay 😄
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cuz his host filters well
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I hate Instagram since Facebook bought it
19:16
The algorithm got so broken
19:16
I played my algorithm back then to give me perfect memes, and now its all spammed by shitty tiktoks and unfunny stuff and unrelated posts
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Jupstar ✪
but wasnt there some hoster that tried with filters already
You mean Fän?
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yse
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Learath2
Heard they improved a lot, I think @fokkonaut is still using them
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fokkonaut
KoG is still using secured.gg, but their filtering doesnt work, and they gave up on it at some point
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19:18
I think KoG still has their servers there cuz literally KoG is so badly organized and is slowly killing itself it feels like
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fokkonaut
I think KoG still has their servers there cuz literally KoG is so badly organized and is slowly killing itself it feels like
u can crash kog with 1 single chat command troll
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That sounds like a commercial for your hoster @fokkonaut
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cyberFighter
u can crash kog with 1 single chat command troll
dont they have any dev or what xD
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Jupstar ✪
dont they have any dev or what xD
not really
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Jupstar ✪
dont they have any dev or what xD
idk kog sucks
19:19
gigachad
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kog is nice, but crashes are really annoying
19:19
and they are abused really often rn
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their servers are bad
19:20
or at least well their code
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I offered my help for KoG a long time ago, got told "we have everything done already", well since then i think nobody has talked about KoG 2.0 anymore and most people just want stable servers xd
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cyberFighter
or at least well their code
teeworlds code generally sucks xd but yeah
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Jupstar ✪
kog is nice, but crashes are really annoying
They still run like 5 year old ddnet source
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they still didnt fix /emote command after 4 years
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lets say 7 years old probably
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fokkonaut
I hate Instagram since Facebook bought it
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they should just drop the stupid moving tiles stuff and just use ddnet source code
19:21
like wtf
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Jupstar ✪
teeworlds code generally sucks xd but yeah
rust programmers going to remake ddnet in rust be like :
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remaking ddnet in every programming language be like:
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just use C.
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Jeryy
remaking ddnet in every programming language be like:
malbolge 🤫
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just use binary
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zKBTuran
just use C.
Java
19:24
So we can use Minecraft plugins for our servers
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java suxks
19:24
java sucks kys
19:24
gine using java
19:25
imagine*
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Then Kotlin
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zKBTuran
just use C.
tru its not about the language used, humans just suck too much we need good robot coders, then asm best, no compiling, perfect performance
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btw
19:26
does someone know why tee eye gap is different based on what angle ur looking at
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Ravie Senpai
Then Kotlin
even more gay and shit
19:27
just javaclone used in android
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cyberFighter
does someone know why tee eye gap is different based on what angle ur looking at
yes
19:27
i know the code behind it
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WHY
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but there is no real reason, i assume they thought it looks cooler
19:27
and tbh i kinda understand it, but i also understand it looks weird
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zKBTuran
even more gay and shit
Then Dart
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Jupstar ✪
and tbh i kinda understand it, but i also understand it looks weird
no perfection allowed
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but look e.g. 0.7, it looks horrible if the tee look left and right
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Ravie Senpai
Then Dart
no one uses that
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zKBTuran
no one uses that
I do
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bro wtf
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zKBTuran
bro wtf
Then maybe... Swift?
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go learn some real languages like C or haskell
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Is mayonnaise also a language?
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cyberFighter
no perfection allowed
creepy
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Ravie Senpai
Is mayonnaise also a language?
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dont weapons also rotate in a weird way
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Jupstar ✪
creepy
this looks like fanart
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