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@Ravie

00:22

perfect

ye that's a lot better

00:26

maybe adjust the feet just a little big so the outlines don't merge into one huge one

00:26

bit*

oh yea

Voxel

because currently it clips into the ground

oh, other weapons than hammer dont go to the back anymore?

fokkonaut

oh, other weapons than hammer dont go to the back anymore?

Nah. Transitioning from AFK to normal is a bit jank like that

I think thats totally fine, it doesnt happen every second.

self plug https://edgarluque.com/blog/bencode-parser-with-nom/

Creating a bencode parser with nom

The encoding used by the peer-to-peer file sharing system BitTorrent

06:38

half rushed blog post using nom i had lying around (edited)

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@Voxel could you show how weapons look like now

oh right one second

08:10

im kind of not liking how they look right now, since they're pointing into the ground, but ravie said he liked it.

I would probably leave them how they are, or put them on the back

08:10

I only suggested this thing for the hammer xd

08:11

not all weapons, cuz tbh its not very fitting i think

Voxel

because currently it clips into the ground

at least if its gonna be this, then we can better leave weapons how they are

08:11

What if you look up?

08:12

it's bidirectional too

yeah but no, this doesnt look right at all.

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(and the transition would also not be smooth, your argument)

08:12

Better leave it on the back.

maybe you can make the legs' position be vertically flat, if you're not near wall

i'll keep hammer like this

Voxel

i'll keep hammer like this

yeah, hammer is something different.

but, i would also have to find a good placement for every weapon

Why? Only for gun, maybe

08:15

the other 3 looked fine

@c0d3d3v https://youtube.com/shorts/NDksm3HdIjA?feature=share

mryeester

how to clean thermal paste off of a cpu socket #shorts

08:33

what a coincidence (edited)

https://tenor.com/4CrU.gif

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TIL about env -S

09:16

it's a new-ish feature that lets you pass arguments in shebang lines

09:16

#!/usr/bin/env -S python -O

wasn't it always the case? I know i have some scripts with #!/bin/bash -ex

@heinrich5991 I remember you working on some proxy code, how complete was that?

VoxelDoesCode

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5816 Can't change tiles layer image in editor

Current version: Nightly 20220908 For some reason when I create a tile set and try to change the image it's reluctant and stays on None. And if it's already an image it switches to none despite which image to try to activate. It works just fine on sounds, but not for images.

Learath2

@heinrich5991 I remember you working on some proxy code, how complete was that?

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4791

Add proof-of-concept proxy support by heinrich5991 · Pull Request #...

The proxy server is supposed to prepend the client IP address and port in the first 18 bytes of a packet. IPv4 addresses are represented using IPv4-mapped IPv6 addresses with the prefix ::ffff:, e....

Chairn

wasn't it always the case? I know i have some scripts with #!/bin/bash -ex

you can only pass one parameter like that, and if you want to use /usr/bin/env (and you should), you could pass 0

heinrich5991

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4791

I think this might be our only hope at making this game playable again

the proxy works IIRC, but it's a dumb proxy right now

09:51

it forwards the DoS to the origin

09:51

I got stuck because I needed to implement protocol-specific stuff

09:51

which I didn't like ^^

09:52

Sounds un-fun indeed

LOL

09:52

>written in rust >7 failed builds

09:53

idk why im laughing at this, this whole wip proxy thing could save ddnet

DoS attacks particularly bad right now?

heinrich5991

DoS attacks particularly bad right now?

Yeah seems some of them picked up their welfare payments or their parents increased their allowance

urgh

Special events are basically impossible and long team 0 maps are pretty much not finishable

other thing, https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5599#issuecomment-1240413404

WIP Rust PoC by heinrich5991 · Pull Request #5599 · ddnet/ddnet

09:56

@Learath2 do you know what the quoting rules for CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS are?

09:57

probably ad-hoc and whatever fell out of the "I forgot to quote arguments"?

No idea. I'm horrible with quoting rules of shells

09:58

Without knowing how many times something will be evaluated it's genuinely hard to know how many pairs of double quotes to put

Did someone say shell quotes?

@Voxel https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8djxld pw: 1234 You changed it so that the walking animation also the feet flip If we would do that also in all other states the feet should flip. Else it looks real strange if you start walking aiming to the left. I see alternatives to this:

Flipping only in afk state.
Flipping not in walking but only in running and afk, but that would still be a strange transition from walking to running
Handle Flipping in the player logic and not in render.cpp and use vel.x as indicator for the feet direction. (vel.x keeps the last direction you moved with 1 and -1) and flip it in all states

10:33

If we would flip the feet also on walking I would prefer 3. alternative. I think the feet should not be connected to the aim but to the walk direction.

10:35

Also I think the new weapon position is strange :/ you should defnitly handle hammer diffrent from the other weapons

c0d3d3v

Also I think the new weapon position is strange :/ you should defnitly handle hammer diffrent from the other weapons

So it's official that I should have weapons on back, but hammer as it currently is?

No we better wait for @Ravie feedback

True

Voxel

Like, if you're rather on normal ground, against a left wall or against a right wall?

if you walked against a wall vel.x is 0

10:46

if you want to detect collisions you can do it. But do you really need it? I did the same to make the jump indicator display (only for the floor) (edited)

c0d3d3v

if you want to detect collisions you can do it. But do you really need it? I did the same to make the jump indicator display (only for the floor) (edited)

But my collision detection will maybe get deleted again with my next update (not completely sure) xD

c0d3d3v

if you want to detect collisions you can do it. But do you really need it? I did the same to make the jump indicator display (only for the floor) (edited)

i decided against it, dont worry (edited)

@Ryozuki what do u think about deno?

11:25

https://deno.land/

Deno - A modern runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript

Deno is a simple, modern runtime for JavaScript and TypeScript that uses V8 and is built in Rust.

Good

11:29

But i prefer if it was v8 itself in rust

11:29

Btw deno is made by the nodejs author

chillerdragon: you can also help me if you know the answer of where to find it

Ryozuki

Btw deno is made by the nodejs author

Yeah saw that

@c0d3d3v @Voxel I like the gun position, guns on the back look totally wrong

11:53

also flipping feet only while sitting is probably the best solution

11:54

I wouldn't mess with the walk animation at all

I liked the running animation, it gives you a good indication that you'll slide slowing down

11:57

I also like the gun on back; this is e.g. where your gun is in cs:go when it's not in use

11:58

(but I'm not fixated on the gun being on the back, somewhere else is also fine. I just wanted to show that not everyone thinks the gun on the back looks bad)

Ravie

@c0d3d3v @Voxel I like the gun position, guns on the back look totally wrong

not as wrong as weapon being in the floor, especially if you look up lol

weapons in the floor are nothing new in tw

12:01

even the default spec position has the gun in the floor

but it doesnt look good if you look somewhere else

Ravie

even the default spec position has the gun in the floor

thats just a bug, and is only shown that way for yourself

in afk state eye pos should be fixed so only either left or right

still it isnt the direction the weapon is going

12:02

then tbh, we can also just leave the weapon untouched

12:02

and only do the sitting

12:02

i think that wouldnt even look bad

it looks good to me, he let his weapon hang behind the platform

that was also the first approach i think, i just threw in we can put the weapon on the back, which first turned out to be nice

Ravie

it looks good to me, he let his weapon hang behind the platform

there we are, arguing about personal opinions again

12:03

useless

on the back looks like just some random made up position that makes no sense to me

this is basically the same

12:04

@Voxel can you make a version where the weapon renders as before, and only the tee is sitting? i think that will look the best. and this way it will also be consistent, because players who keep shooting have that behaviour anyways

Voxel

Click to see attachment 🖼️

This looks wrong.

Ravie

on the back looks like just some random made up position that makes no sense to me

it's also where guns are when they're not being used in some video games

but tees don't really have a back, it just looks weird when the gun is at a random angle somewhere

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heinrich5991

probably ad-hoc and whatever fell out of the "I forgot to quote arguments"?

what if you quote only the part after = ?

Ravie

but tees don't really have a back, it just looks weird when the gun is at a random angle somewhere

i beg to disagree https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/846815559408549888.webp?size=44&quality=lossless

Voxel

Let's do a vote: Vote which one you want the state to base off of! Would you rather have it on the tee's back or resting on the ground?

oh, someone already posted a vote. seems like most people (in that random vote) liked the back position better

@Chairn ah now I know how they are holding the guns on their backs

Chairn

what if you quote only the part after = ?

that might actually work by accident ^^

Ravie

@Chairn ah now I know how they are holding the guns on their backs

https://tenor.com/YT4n.gif

12:31

it might change how it is parsed after first "escape"

if you pass --option="abc", the program sees --option=abc

12:31

same if you pass "--option=abc"

yeah, but you said there were multiple rounds (edited)

12:32

otherwise, just random number of ̀\ can work ?

but if the quotes are moved behind the =, due to unequal number of unquotings, the program will see --option=abc in one case and --option="abc" in the other case

12:32

--option="abc" is wrong, but at least not an invalid option, so it'd work

Ravie

@Chairn ah now I know how they are holding the guns on their backs

more detailed view

exactly

heinrich5991

--option="abc" is wrong, but at least not an invalid option, so it'd work

it's not wrong imo if there's a shell call in between

I'm saying the programm will get --option="abc"

12:33

when it should get --option=abc

12:33

so it gets passed the wrong data

12:34

(after all shell expansion)

12:35

(yes, if there's a shell expansion in between, the program will get --option=abc in both cases, which would be correct)

not necessarily if the call is shelled once more than expected:

sh -c "sh -c \"program --option=\"abc\"\""
--> sh -c "program --option=abc"
--> program --option=abc