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Between 2022-09-07 00:00:00Z and 2022-09-08 00:00:00Z
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18258c9 M Strategic Paraplegic - ddnet-maps
06:39
gg
06:47
absolutely insane. minecraft is one of those games where its boring to play but thrilling to watch (edited)
06:49
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when minecraft in minecraft in minecraft
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ReiTW
@heinrich5991 what's the delay for a server to disappear from the https list?
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Okay that was really strange then
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what is strange?
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heinrich5991
what is strange?
dunno how that happened but my server was registering using a wrong source port ??? And my server was still visible. Even by doing a tcpdump I couldn't see the port 8404 trying to communicate with masters, but was still in the list (edited)
09:16
I wasn't visible for status.tw, but for https masters yes
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do you register by https or by the old-style master protocol?
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old-style
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ah, different stuff applies to that
09:19
it seems to be 50 seconds for that
09:20
that's probably still too few?
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well it was way more
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maybe there's a bug in there
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probably yes, dunno what happened but if somehow it happens again I'll write again here
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Was the info updated tho?
09:20
or old info displayed
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ah, it's probably the fact that the backward compatibility won't stop scraping a server unless it stops responding
09:22
even if it drops out of the masterserver list
09:22
this could be considered a bug, I guess
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Exactly, sv_register 0 doesnt work for old registering
09:22
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only with the server being down for ~a minute
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btw was confused about the new rcon feature "username"
09:23
wrote my password in sue
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"""new"""
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"new" 😛
09:23
never seen it before, I always update my client
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its serverside
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huh? how
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aswell
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it only shows if the server has rcon with usernames
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justatest we don't
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then something went wrong
09:24
the feature is from 2017 😉
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if u connect to a server that tells the client to use usernames, and you then join a server that doesnt send this information at all, it will not fallback to anything, it will just go with what was set before
09:24
thats why you saw username on ur server
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fokkonaut
if u connect to a server that tells the client to use usernames, and you then join a server that doesnt send this information at all, it will not fallback to anything, it will just go with what was set before
that sounds like a bug
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is that reported already?
09:25
[8:14 PM] fokkonaut: @heinrich5991 could you also reset on connect, that the server sended the message for rcon username login? because when i connect to ddnet, then to my server it asks for a pass...
09:25
yup
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i definitely said it already before, not sure if i made an issue
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damn I've never seen that before, that looks cool, 2017 justatest
09:28
@ReiTW
09:28
permalink (press 'y' to generate a permalink on github) (edited)
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and you know whats the best about this? oy removed it entirely from 0.7
09:29
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heinrich5991
permalink (press 'y' to generate a permalink on github) (edited)
ah yea, or copy permalink on the 3 dots on the left
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This would be preferred over the built-in map download URL. Need to figure out the security-related problems with this. This would allow an attacker to make the client make an arbitrary HTTPS GET request and check whether the response matches a given SHA256. A web browser can be made to make arbitrary HTTPS GET request, but can't check whether the response matches a given one. So the only difference is that the attacker can match the received data against expected data. How much worse is t...
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It would be cool to find a a RCE using maps
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Ryozuki
It would be cool to find a a RCE using maps
Are you in my walls? I was literally talking to someone 10 minutes ago about an RCE they found in the map loader for a different game xd
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the one he found was because the map saved its size in the file so if you changed it then the checksum would buffer overflow when looping over the map bytes but we probably don't do that
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how does a buffer overread for a checksum turn into an RCE?
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We have lots of out of buffer reads during map loading (with fuzzing), but hopefully no more writes
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f387c55 Add 92 € donation by NeXus - def-
10:37
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-09-07 10:44:20Z
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MINECRAFT
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I hate so much that font style
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-09-07 10:45:12Z
xd
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forgot the name of it (the look)
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I knew u would show it chiller
10:45
Its minecraft
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Monocraft font?
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Today on hn
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no I mean the ===
10:45
shit
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you can enable/disable it for eg on vscode for some fonts
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Ligatures
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yes this
10:46
this is horrible
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-09-07 10:47:48Z
hrhr im in such a mc hype these days
10:48
my github feed showed the repo :D
10:48
@Ryozuki about the RCE probably our map expert @Patiga has some findings and i assume you know those CVEs already https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/created_by/mmmds
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10:53
@Ryozuki also send help to write mc hax
10:54
i fakin hate java
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java sux
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Compared to rust yes
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org.ddnet.server.entity.CharacterFactory (edited)
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BASED
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ChillerDragon: haven't looked at out of bounds reads extensively, didn't manage to find an exploit. for fun I tried to create the smallest crashing map. I managed 48 bytes, maybe someone can golf it further ^^
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We need to write map loading tests
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Ryozuki
Compared to rust yes
no
11:06
in general
11:06
java sucks
11:07
such a horrible app, language can be "sometimes" a bit fun to work with, but what a shit thing to have to install 36000 java versions for different apps cuz developers doesn't even maintain it
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon
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cursed js
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1 error output in java has more lines than the linux kernel source code itself
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imagine getting a keyboard which utilizes those fonts xd
11:08
gonna be longer, than my desk
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Learath2
With ints they are all equivalent, but with floats abs optimizes the best
m_VelX is an int xD maybe type prefixes would not be to bad at all xD
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Voxel
All fixed!
The fix looks fine
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@Voxel I just tested it, It looks really cute. But I do not get an afk emote for my dummy, is that normal?
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I've myself have run into a problem when playing in a party of more than 2 player. If you seek for a map, you never know what is the max players on it. The idea is to add a filter function to choose specific options for a map such as: Player amount, Mode (novice,moderate and so on)
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@Voxel Also my main tee does not get afk at all
11:57
@Voxel also if you pull an afk Tee, he moves his feets like if he would walk. Do we want that? (edited)
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c0d3d3v
m_VelX is an int xD maybe type prefixes would not be to bad at all xD
There was a discussion about how round_to_int function is being used to ahm, make floats into int in the most simple way possible
11:58
with learath
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c0d3d3v
@Voxel also if you pull an afk Tee, he moves his feets like if he would walk. Do we want that? (edited)
and in air
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Cellegen
whoever made that clamp is not so much of a genius, you could've already perform rounding onto the parameters of the function itself
@c0d3d3v whole convo here
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Cellegen
@c0d3d3v whole convo here
I know about the rounding problem... I just saying that it is an int xD
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well yes xd
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c0d3d3v
I know about the rounding problem... I just saying that it is an int xD
can't understand what's the issue
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Learath2 only explaind the options, and pointed out what would be good for floats. I only said it is an int. If you mean the rounding issue ... that was multiple times discussed here. Maybe I can link to one of my explanations xD wait...
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rounding issue yes
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When opening the console or rcon, it is not always easy to find something you are looking for. Especially when chat is running actively. Sure there is dump_local_console command and in text file you can use the ctrl+f, but its not that efficient when you need something you have missed immediately. The search function would be useful for moderators to seek for rule breakers ip. Just by entering couple letters of their name, would show you the line of needed information. When opening cons...
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https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/963862774633611396 https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/963867973695721482 But that is only server side. The client will get -1 0 or 1 fixed At least I think they discussed about this issue... I have not read the whole discussion Cellegen linked (edited)
12:11
Mh I read a bit more on his thread, I guess he is talking about something different. But I thought it is about this because of the code I had refereed to.from Voxel
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oh, then nvm my convos
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@Voxel ... if(g_Config.m_ClAfkEmote && m_pClient->m_aClients[ClientID].m_Afk && !(Client()->DummyConnected() && ClientID == m_pClient->m_aLocalIDs[!g_Config.m_ClDummy])) I see dummies never get afk emots
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tbf the emote is too much
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Cellegen
oh, then nvm my convos
Nah I'm sorry that I have not read your thread. But it looks like that is a thing of refactoring (with special care about keeping same physics)
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the eyes are way enough, emotes are big af, imagine you have so much people, gets ugly (edited)
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ReiTW
the eyes are way enough, emotes are big af, imagine you have so much people, gets ugly (edited)
there is an option to turn it off. Could be added to the settings menu
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Cl_AfkEmote
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c0d3d3v
there is an option to turn it off. Could be added to the settings menu
@heinrich5991
12:38
We need your lecture
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@Voxel https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8dj5fz I tested your afk animation. I like it. But we have already an sit animation, if you sit on the edge of a block. I think the afk animation should overwrite this.
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c0d3d3v
@Voxel https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8dj5fz I tested your afk animation. I like it. But we have already an sit animation, if you sit on the edge of a block. I think the afk animation should overwrite this.
video is privated
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Mabe now with password 1234
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u leaked private feature zoozpepe
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the weapon holding looks weird, especially hammer
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c0d3d3v
@Voxel https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8dj5fz I tested your afk animation. I like it. But we have already an sit animation, if you sit on the edge of a block. I think the afk animation should overwrite this.
Thats the in air condition
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fokkonaut
Thats the in air condition
ah true
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and that should not be overridden, i think its totally correct like this
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mh yes maybe starange if it would start sitting in air
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exactly
13:13
but good think is it adapts, if someone hooks you over
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thing*
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yes but it shows the walk animation... thats also strang, but acceptable
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haha, you wanna get dragged over the floor wiping your ass? :D
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yes you are afk
13:14
yeah maybe it should check for direction, not velx
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mh, but I think it is ok to show the walk animation. It was always like that
13:15
maybe just the switching is actually ugly
13:15
swithcing from sitting & weapon on back to normal
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and back
13:15
seems a bit inconsitent
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xD yes, but that also happens normaly only once
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its just because I forced afk state
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well, if someone does multiple short hooks on you
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while ur afk on ground
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but the weapon stays on the back
13:16
if he hooks you
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im not sure whether weapon stays on back, but definitely the feet toggle back and forth
13:16
ah ye
13:17
only feets change
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feet*
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weapon switches only if you have automatic weapon active while you are afk (edited)
13:17
i suggested dat
13:18
yeah well, actually i think its fine with the feet
13:18
we will have to see how it is for a while probably
13:20
maybe we could use the same for freeze btw, with weapons on back and sitting
13:21
right now the tee doesnt have any weapo
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@Ravie you said something about the position of the feet, that it is kind of strange. Maybe you want to comment about that again...
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fokkonaut
right now the tee doesnt have any weapo
good idea
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ah yeah I think they're a little too far to the side
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u compared to 0.7?
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cuz they fixed it
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iirc
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I mean the sitting animation
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what did they fix ?
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the feet positions are a little bit wrong i think, either in 0.6 or 0.7
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also when facing to the left, the front foot is upside down xD, dunno a lot of things about this look weird to me
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fokkonaut
the feet positions are a little bit wrong i think, either in 0.6 or 0.7
someone pointed out to me that in 0.6 the feet are shifted too, but the other way
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ah, then it might be that and we are all just used to it
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yeah it looks even more shifted because of that
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@fokkonaut I think we have general no transition animation. So also not from AFK to Aktiv and the other way around. But maybe in a far future xD someone implements transition animations xD
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@fokkonaut just for fun here's a 0.6 and 0.7 tee and below with mirrored foot offset
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a, so 0.6 was broken
13:35
right
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and we use top left?
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and here both are perfectly centered
13:37
my favorite is the 0.7 tee with 0.6 foot offset
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interesting
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Ravie
@fokkonaut just for fun here's a 0.6 and 0.7 tee and below with mirrored foot offset
bottom right looks nice
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xD my eyes are to bad. I see so little diffrence
13:40
but yes I think you are right. It looks the best
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cus of the feet outlines
13:43
they are fixed
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I like more the one with more shadow
13:45
(shadow I mean the black outline, the bigger one) (edited)
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wait the outline is fixed? I think it is part of the skin, you could change it. Could you not? @Ravie
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what do you mean?
13:46
0.6 skins seem to have slightly fatter outlines
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but only because its in the skins right?
13:47
if you want you could do one with small outlines
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I don't get what you mean
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I refer to what @louis said. "cus of the feet outlines they are fixed" I do not think they are fixed
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ah yeah because the 0.6 tee is just my faithful remake but I fixed the wonky foot outline
13:50
I don't have the official svg for 0.6 tees
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ah he means not fixed in the sense of it is not changeable, but it was repaired xD I'm lost (edited)
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the difference is really subtle xD but somehow it upsets our eyes so much
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ah that helps
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c0d3d3v
@Voxel I just tested it, It looks really cute. But I do not get an afk emote for my dummy, is that normal?
i swear it looked fine when i tested it
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c0d3d3v
@Voxel ... if(g_Config.m_ClAfkEmote && m_pClient->m_aClients[ClientID].m_Afk && !(Client()->DummyConnected() && ClientID == m_pClient->m_aLocalIDs[!g_Config.m_ClDummy])) I see dummies never get afk emots
oh weird
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Voxel
i swear it looked fine when i tested it
yes ignore that xD ...
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c0d3d3v
@Voxel also if you pull an afk Tee, he moves his feets like if he would walk. Do we want that? (edited)
Well, I think that would be fine, unless we have it where if you drag an afk tee it still sits. Then I think it would be only fair to start skidding when fast enough
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@Voxel what do u think about this kind of events?
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MilkeeyCat
@Voxel what do u think about this kind of events?
Very nice!
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Voxel
Well, I think that would be fine, unless we have it where if you drag an afk tee it still sits. Then I think it would be only fair to start skidding when fast enough
I think I collected the imported questions/statements on github. (edited)
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anyways I'll tweak the actual sitting parameters to make it better looking, though i dont know how to i would do weapon placememt
15:16
also about the left foot being upside down thing, i dont think you can flip assets in contents.py
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I actually think the normal gun is so small, on just a little bigger skins you do not even see it.
15:18
Do the feet not flip if you change direction?
15:19
Mh they do not. Why should we start flipping them
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it never was like that in the code
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@Ravie do the feet flip in 0.7?
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c0d3d3v
@Ravie do the feet flip in 0.7?
what do you mean flip?
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I just tested it, they do not
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Ravie
what do you mean flip?
you mentioned when afk tee faces left the foot is upside down
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I do not even see what you mean by upside down @Ravie for me it looks correctly mirrored (that falls a little bit out of teeworlds style since in all other states the feet do not mirror, but I like it)
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the pointy end of the foot should be facing upwards
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theres no way to flip the feet in animations :(( wish there was (edited)
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you could add an option for it 😄
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I got banned with out any reason
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Every time when i join
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Give me banned
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Reason bot
15:26
Wtff
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кто русс?
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Try the official client 🙂
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What@c0d3d3v
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bankeras
кто русс?
#off-topic
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c0d3d3v
you could add an option for it 😄
i could try, but it might take a while
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osman
What@c0d3d3v
Is this really a question for developers? If not move to #questions
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Voxel
i could try, but it might take a while
Or we could always mirror the feet depending on the directions 😄 But that would change all animations
15:30
But I still do not understand what is mirrored wrong. Is it so significant? For me it looks ok
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the animations in code are symmetrical, thankfully, meaning one left animation is a nice mirror to one right (edited)
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The tee could also just always sit to one side. That would also solve the problem
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yea but that looks wrong when you're looking the other way
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Ah now I see what you mean...
15:39
The underlying problem also contains that the tee itself never changes direction. I mean the skin does not flip its side.
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yeah, but its too late for that now. it would ruin a lot of skins if it was flipped
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you could add flip_x and flip_y to the CAnimKeyframe and make it default false, and then use it in render.cpp
15:42
and also in python in AnimKeyframe
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or flip_h flip_v
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xD flip_h and flip_v is also used in the editor ...
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ah in code its FlipX and FlipY
15:49
That should be pretty simple. If it is really useful is an other question. If you do it, I would use H,V instead of X,Y that sounds more verbose to me
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Voxel
yeah, but its too late for that now. it would ruin a lot of skins if it was flipped
Or better add it to the animation itself instead of the animKeyFrame :/ not sure. But I think the texture should not flip in an animation
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@c0d3d3v can you show how the sitting looks with the skin Bub?
15:55
left and right
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c0d3d3v
Or better add it to the animation itself instead of the animKeyFrame :/ not sure. But I think the texture should not flip in an animation
Mh that would be a lot more complicated
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Ravie
@c0d3d3v can you show how the sitting looks with the skin Bub?
yes wait
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it should be much more obvious what I mean with that skin
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right is cute, left is doing yoga (edited)
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right is ready to poop
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i mean
16:02
why not
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c0d3d3v
right is cute, left is doing yoga (edited)
skin dependent
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Ravie
it should be much more obvious what I mean with that skin
I'm not even sure if it would be better if the feet would flip. since the skin does not, the tail would be between the feet
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nevermind the tail
16:03
just to give you the idea that the toes are the wrong way
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At least the feet would be better
16:03
yes
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I see
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and not all skins have feet that will look "ok" even flipped
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optics and design is so hard xD
16:06
I think I will make a short test video with just hard coding the flip...
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Bizarre skin, is it part of the normal skin db?
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Learath2
Bizarre skin, is it part of the normal skin db?
yes, I made it
16:17
it doesn't look that stupid normally tho
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wtf
16:18
its one of the best skins
heartw 1
16:18
the happy version at least
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Hm, I'd think this one should have been part of the community db ngl. It's cute and all but is it really tee-ish
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wait this is bubble bobble
16:18
damn
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what do you mean "normally", I think the sitting dino is also not so stupid 😄
16:18
I like it
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If we are doing the new asymmetric animations we should start flipping skins I guess
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Learath2
If we are doing the new asymmetric animations we should start flipping skins I guess
it won't look good
16:20
shadows flipping
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Oh yeah there is that too :/
16:21
Well we can try. Maybe its not that bad
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Probably for now we should just sit only to the right
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it could work with the 0.7 system, flip the feet and marking but keep shadow on the correct side
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Or yeah sit in one direction
16:21
Tees dont face any direction anyway technically
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Ravie
it could work with the 0.7 system, flip the feet and marking but keep shadow on the correct side
o.O what do they do with shadows? (edited)
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nothing but the skin is split into separate parts that you could treat individually
16:24
if it's symmetric then you could flip only the body marking
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the 0.7 system wont work with a skin database sadly also pls dont adapt the 0.7 eyes
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Ravie
it could work with the 0.7 system, flip the feet and marking but keep shadow on the correct side
what if you have tees with different shape
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also if u use a skin with text on it, it would flip it, would probs be weird
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like non symetrical skins
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that is a problem anyway
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ReiTW
what if you have tees with different shape
so far all 0.7 skins are symmetric
16:26
but I guess then you'd have a problem
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@Voxel @Ravie the simplest solution I can think of would be in AFK state to always sit to the right and force the eyes to one nice position
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@Voxel I see also the same problem for your new running animation
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I will make a short video with the Bub skin
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nevermind
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walking with feet that have tows is always strange not only with running (edited)
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Wait until you see tank skin justatest
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@Ravie @Voxel with flipping feet: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8djdo3 pw: 1234 (edited)
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xD
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@Voxel I do upload my code so you can copy it... I think it is way simpler and the better solution instead of adding it to every key frame
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c0d3d3v
@Ravie @Voxel with flipping feet: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8djdo3 pw: 1234 (edited)
looks better but I don't like the feet flipping while running or in air
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also the feet position when sitting still looks odd to me, they seem too far from where they normally are, maybe because the feet go to the side but body angle doesn't change
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Ravie
looks better but I don't like the feet flipping while running or in air
ah yes I just did it general ... the easiest way possible 😄 we could just do it only in afk
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I wanted to test how it looks if you walk with flipped feet (edited)
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I forgot to show that in the video
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@Ravie https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8dje3d pw 1234 Here I tested a little bit walking with flipping. The flipping is only based on the cursor position. If that would be a real thing, I guess it would be better to base it on the walk direction.
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I will just upload it ... then you can test it yourself
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tbh, i think the hammer can actually stay exactly like it is, also when being afk
17:51
it looks very wrong otherwise, and the hammer is already like in a good position to be held idel
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https://github.com/C0D3D3V/ddnet/tree/pr_5802 there you can test it as soon as the CI build is finished. I added a setting cl_force_afk to force afk on all players. Actually just flipping the feet on normal walk does not work prefectly since the feet are not centered on the tee, so it looks little bit strange. (edited)
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But it does not look to bad
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something like this looks more natural
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Ravie
something like this looks more natural
or like that, yea, but not how the hammer currently is being held xd
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he lowers his hammer while sleeping but the hammer doesn't completely change sides
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yes
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Yes I see... Its strange that the hammer changes its side
18:06
this is the current impl
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why is the laser so far back
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when add animated zzz for afkers
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I guess he uses the same position for all weapon. It is just bigger
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WeaponPosition = Position; if(Dir.x < 0) WeaponPosition.x += 7.0f; else WeaponPosition.x += -7.0f; WeaponPosition.y -= 10.0f; (edited)
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Yep its the same position for all weapons
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totally real niteri
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noooo
18:11
they removed
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bomab
totally real niteri
wrong channel
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lmao i was replying to scam message
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oh
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its on all channels
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louis
when add animated zzz for afkers
I actually liked the Zzz Ravie posted. But animated using particles is maybe also good
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that's what I had in mind when I made it
18:15
but it's just hypoethetical, I'm actually against too many visual changes
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@Voxel that's my final version of main page. any thoughts?
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Ravie
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so i do this pose?
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Voxel
so i do this pose?
dunno do what you want, it's just my 2 cents
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Voxel
so i do this pose?
I like that pose too. For me both looks good. But what about the other weapons?
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only one way to find out xD
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c0d3d3v
https://github.com/C0D3D3V/ddnet/tree/pr_5802 there you can test it as soon as the CI build is finished. I added a setting cl_force_afk to force afk on all players. Actually just flipping the feet on normal walk does not work prefectly since the feet are not centered on the tee, so it looks little bit strange. (edited)
CI build is btw finished 😄 if you want to test flipping feet 😄 https://github.com/C0D3D3V/ddnet/actions/runs/3009684803
DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - force afk setting and mirror feet · C0D3D3V/ddnet@93b2877
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Voxel
so i do this pose?
i prefered the feet straight up the way you did it 🙂
18:21
3 million ppl watching live
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Ryozuki
3 million ppl watching live
Me running to every TV in the building and turning on the stream.... monkalaugh
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off*
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announcing the iphone 69. what's new? absolutely nothing, but you'll still buy it
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i never bought a iphone
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the only interestng thing are the M2 processors
18:23
to me
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Ravie
announcing the iphone 69. what's new? absolutely nothing, but you'll still buy it
I heared you have to wait for IPhone 70. Because they run out of chips
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c0d3d3v
xD
long range cannon ready to shoot
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uff pretty bad for what prices apple charges
18:27
except the cpu
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always on display is already on any android
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btw
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But this is apple, it’s definitely much better than every other product out there. If you say otherwise you are stupid
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mobiles focus so much on pictures nowadays
18:29
the thing i use less
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depends on your definition of better
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Ryozuki
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this image feels from 2000s
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The satellite SOS sounds interesting
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the color palette is weird
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Ravie
depends on your definition of better
It’s better in every definition if you ask an appleboy
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is the processor made in house or not?
18:30
apple processors are good
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Learath2
It’s better in every definition if you ask an appleboy
of course monkalaugh
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Ryozuki
is the processor made in house or not?
Iirc TSMC fabs them but apple designed the architecture in house based on arm
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c0d3d3v
The satellite SOS sounds interesting
indeed
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"from"
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apple doing apple things
18:32
nothing new
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btw apple phones are arbitrarely more pricy in europe
18:32
and laptops
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Iirc TSMC fabs them but apple designed the architecture in house based on arm
is it not the Taiwan fab that now gets a new factory in USA only so that Taiwan is safe again against china?
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@c0d3d3v taiwan fab is TSMC
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I wonder how they did the satellite sos. There is a reason sat phones have that stick antenna 😄
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Learath2
I wonder how they did the satellite sos. There is a reason sat phones have that stick antenna 😄
elon musk stuff?
18:33
starlink
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c0d3d3v
is it not the Taiwan fab that now gets a new factory in USA only so that Taiwan is safe again against china?
Actually I think the idea is the opposite. TSMC opens a fab in US funded with govt grants and in exchange if taiwan is ivaded by china the world still can have high density silicon
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Actually I think the idea is the opposite. TSMC opens a fab in US funded with govt grants and in exchange if taiwan is ivaded by china the world still can have high density silicon
is europe not doign the same?
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(Turkish) 35.000TL
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Ryozuki
elon musk stuff?
Starlink uses dish satellites, even harder to fit in a phone
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we rly should
18:34
put the fab in catalonia
18:34
BASED
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Ryozuki
is europe not doign the same?
This idk. I’m not aware of any funding for fabs in EU
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Learath2
I wonder how they did the satellite sos. There is a reason sat phones have that stick antenna 😄
xD prob you have to plug in a sat antenna in the non existing audio jack port
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the fuck is that apple park
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xD prob you have to plug in a sat antenna in the non existing audio jack port
It is always possible that I’m just out of loop in the tech required for sat transmission. They may have minified it by now
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It is always possible that I’m just out of loop in the tech required for sat transmission. They may have minified it by now
probably for an SOS you do not need a lot of bandwidth so you can use a small antenna
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The problem is getting through the atmosphere. If you had a directional antenna you could maybe punch through with lower energy but for something like a phone a directional antenna doesn’t work too well
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If you don't have a cellular or WiFi connection, Apple essentially enables emergency connections to satellites. The iPhone 14 Plus uses a mix of a special satellite frequencies, an algorithm that shrinks a regular text message to make it 3 times smaller.
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also called compression
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No, when apple makes it it’s an algorithm that shrinks
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The problem is getting through the atmosphere. If you had a directional antenna you could maybe punch through with lower energy but for something like a phone a directional antenna doesn’t work too well
One thing I know is that some Satellites use 40 to 60GHz and WiFi 802.11ad uses 60GHz ... so maybe that could be related...
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As far as I’m aware higher frequencies have an even worse time going through different media
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I know...
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@Learath2 can you explain me why "o the only difference is that the attacker can match the received data against expected data." is bad?
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That’s what I’ve been brainstorming there. Say there is some site that gives out some very predictable page except for a couple chunks of small variable data. By forcing the client to make a get request and check the sha of the page you can generate a set of shas and keep forcing the client until he reports correct map for one
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It’s a very unlikely attack though. That’s why I asked for other ideas
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if u connect to a server that tells the client to use usernames, and you then join a server that doesnt send this information at all, it will not fallback to anything, it will just go with what was set before
I can't reproduce #4170 like this; I tried not sending any NETMSG_RCONTYPE messages from one server but it still correctly detects that no username is required even when previously connected to another server that does use usernames
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[8:14 PM] fokkonaut: @heinrich5991 could you also reset on connect, that the server sended the message for rcon username login? because when i connect to ddnet, then to my server it asks for a pass...
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I can't reproduce #4170 like this; I tried not sending any NETMSG_RCONTYPE messages from one server but it still correctly detects that no username is required even when previously connected to another server that does use usernames
maybe its fixed already
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@ReiTW reproduced it yesterday
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can you tell us what you did @ReiTW?
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c0d3d3v
One thing I know is that some Satellites use 40 to 60GHz and WiFi 802.11ad uses 60GHz ... so maybe that could be related...
wifi uses 800MHz, 2GHz, 3GHz and 5Ghz, not 60GHz
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This idk. I’m not aware of any funding for fabs in EU
Europe has announced a 50 billion € plan to secure circuit fabrication in Europe
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7B€ already invested in Germany for Intel fab
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5B€ announced for GF and ST partnership in France (Grenoble)
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But Europe still 20 years behind for chip fabrication
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TSMC is already at 5nm while ST never went below 28nm (because it had no need for)
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With the announced plan, they'll move to 22nm or maybe even 18nm in Grenoble
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I don't know about Intel fab in Germany
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Intel should be able to do 14nm to 10nm there i believe
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wifi uses 800MHz, 2GHz, 3GHz and 5Ghz, not 60GHz
IEEE 802.11ad is an amendment to the IEEE 802.11 wireless networking standard, developed to provide a Multiple Gigabit Wireless System (MGWS) standard at 60 GHz frequency, and is a networking standard for WiGig networks. Because it uses the V band of millimeter wave (mmW) frequency, the range of IEEE 802.11ad communication would be rather limite...
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there is also a mobile network standard on 40GHz
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Called 5G xD
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Frequency bands for 5G New Radio (5G NR), which is the air interface or radio access technology of the 5G mobile networks, are separated into two different frequency ranges. First there is Frequency Range 1 (FR1), which includes sub-6 GHz frequency bands, some of which are traditionally used by previous standards, but has been extended to cover ...
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well, i got stuck on old standards 😄
19:37
but the 60GHz doesn't go through walls, so not the best for indoor use
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Btw we should cancel 5g
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@c0d3d3v Is this a good list for the AFK sit thing? Or does it need more?
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@c0d3d3v Is this a good list for the AFK sit thing? Or does it need more?
I'm not sure if we want dummies going AFK. I guess it is that way so you do not get the Zzzz if you fly a long way with your dummy...
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I think that is on purpose ...
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Alright, I'll remove that.
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For foot flipping you can look in my commit... You can use a cleaned up version of it but only flip it if you are afk
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Yeah, I'll edit it so it's more suitable for if you need it or not.
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Also I'm still not sure if just one sit position would be better, and forcing eyes to the right. Maybe you try out the new position first and then we talk with Ravie again about it. I think Ravie has a good eye for teeworlds design
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Sure; but at the same time, if you force eyes in one direction only and you're firing in the opposite... How would that look?
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guess guys what can be wrong here
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Maybe do not sit in that case... But Yeah first try out the new sit animation with flipped foot, maybe its good enough so we can sit in both directions
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guess guys what can be wrong here
to less water
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super cold
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put it in the dish washer, then in the heater, then new heat sink and lets test it again xD
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at this point
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see all those white points on the cpu socket? (edited)
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Good picture quality
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yes ... its possible to clean
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those are thermal paste
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you could clean it and sell it if you do not want to use it
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here's the cpu now
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On the pins you should not put on pressure, but you can clean it with water and soup
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can i clean it up with pure alcohol tho?
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you can use alcohol (Spirit alcohol) too yes.
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But water works too... you just have to take care that you get it very dry afterwards (edited)
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do not let it dry by itself
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Otherwise it oxidizes and becomes rusty and then you have a defect.
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I wont risk that, so alcohol it is
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But in general I wonder, did the motherboard still work? Because heat-conducting paste is actually not electrically conductive, so it shouldn't cause any damage.
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Cellegen
I wont risk that, so alcohol it is
there are actually also videos on youtube about that topic. Especially after the last storm in germany, some channels started doing videos about cleaning up very dirty hardware...
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can you tell us what you did @ReiTW?
I just played normally
20:22
and wanted to rcon
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it didn't get onto real sensitive parts, but because the cpu itself couldn't have cooled down, the bottom part of the motherboard is almost melted
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probably joined another server before bombay
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it didn't get onto real sensitive parts, but because the cpu itself couldn't have cooled down, the bottom part of the motherboard is almost melted
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so basically, the cpu survived, but the motherboard didn't
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I see...
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and thats good, 80 bucks for a new motherboard is better, than 150+ on a cpu
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If the CPU got that hot... that could also not be good for the CPU. Do you overclock? Why did the PC not force shutdown, normally it must, as soon as the temperature is out of range for the CPU
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it was 60c on bios
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it didnt let me boot onto my os
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😦 I wish you good luck
20:26
Did you use a water cooling system? (edited)
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well thx, this is the second time happening, the first time i thought that i did the pasting wrong
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but then on this one, i realized, that the screws on the cpu fan had no full grip onto the motherboard on the side, where it leaked
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so motherboard was faulty
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So you used a normal fan?
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amd cpu cooler
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interesting...
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its not the coolers fault
20:28
it works just as fine
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Was this your first custom build?
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c0d3d3v
If the CPU got that hot... that could also not be good for the CPU. Do you overclock? Why did the PC not force shutdown, normally it must, as soon as the temperature is out of range for the CPU
interestingly, the os just freeze, cuz the bios got freezed too
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dangerious stuff ngl
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c0d3d3v
Was this your first custom build?
not this one for sure
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-09-07 20:49:12Z
@ eVery One
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon
@ eVery One
Stop pinging me bro
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justatest wtf was that
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Is there an indicator for if you're against a wall?
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Like, if you're rather on normal ground, against a left wall or against a right wall?
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i don't think so, maybe you can look on the physic code that handles wall jump ?
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Progress: My head hurt 💀
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he wont come back from this afk anymore
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Voxel
Let's do a vote: Vote which one you want the state to base off of! Would you rather have it on the tee's back or resting on the ground?
very ironic how we're going back to ➡️ by the way. (edited)
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just my main thing to focus on is making the weapon look good in afk states
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because currently it clips into the ground
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Also for this update I won't add a sleeping particle. Maybe another time.
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I like the gun position a lot more
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feet still a bit too far to the side imo
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its the exact same pos as when you're not afk
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but the back foot goes all the way from the back to in front of the other foot
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they should be more or less aligned imo so you can see just a bit of the back foot's toe poking out
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alrighty. i'll do that after i eat supper
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