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Between 2022-08-31 00:00:00Z and 2022-09-01 00:00:00Z
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Tater 2022-08-31 02:00:52Z
I wonder how reasonable it would be to use Steam datagram relays to prevent DoS attacks. I think it would work but you probably need to have the client running through steam to use it. https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/multiplayer/steamdatagramrelay
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oh wait
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they do offer it for non-steam players, but it's not guaranteed to work forever
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I don't wanna ping deen but I wonder if he has considered this before
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 06:14:37Z
This is the underlying network protocol, without the relaying https://github.com/ValveSoftware/GameNetworkingSockets
GitHub - ValveSoftware/GameNetworkingSockets: Reliable & unreliable...
Reliable & unreliable messages over UDP. Robust message fragmentation & reassembly. P2P networking / NAT traversal. Encryption. - GitHub - ValveSoftware/GameNetworkingSockets: Re...
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Well, we dont need this one though, Teeworlds has it's logic to make sure packets arrive
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Tater
I wonder how reasonable it would be to use Steam datagram relays to prevent DoS attacks. I think it would work but you probably need to have the client running through steam to use it. https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/multiplayer/steamdatagramrelay
ReiTW 2022-08-31 06:18:25Z
vse attacks, efficient if u don't have a protection
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didn't know about those relays tho
06:26
but Ig there's always easier ways to prevent DoS, such as re-thinking the netcode (idk if this can be considered as it'll 100% break vanilla compat + 0.7)
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 06:37:32Z
not only that, also compatibility to all previous ddnet versions
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and we have some compatibility nazis in here hehe
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the netcode definitely has some points that can and should be heavily improved
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fokkonaut
not only that, also compatibility to all previous ddnet versions
Anime.pdf 2022-08-31 06:46:02Z
ddnet2 when
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Voxel 2022-08-31 06:53:53Z
Just a quick question: Is this an intuitive way of checking the speed of a tee? Located in players.cpp
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 07:10:09Z
This is not in the code, did you make that?
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Voxel
Currently the run looks like this. Still flawed, and I know I'm gonna spend another week on it without an animation tool xd
Voxel 2022-08-31 07:12:56Z
Yeah, for this
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I'm making the tee have a run animation if it reaches a fast enough speed
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 07:13:47Z
How should that look
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I think it's hard to say at which speed a tee is running
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Voxel 2022-08-31 07:20:28Z
I mean it's going good so far... but one problem: Out of bounds does this for some reason
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Voxel
I mean it's going good so far... but one problem: Out of bounds does this for some reason
Cipy29 2022-08-31 07:21:17Z
Feature, not a bug, ship it now
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Voxel 2022-08-31 07:21:21Z
LMFAO
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Cipy29 2022-08-31 07:21:21Z
I need this
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 07:37:27Z
it doesnt look too different, does it?
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Voxel
I mean it's going good so far... but one problem: Out of bounds does this for some reason
fokkonaut 2022-08-31 07:37:56Z
You probably do some positions checks, or the rendering does, and here the positions Pos.x < 0
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The video just made my day tho, perfect music, in a map i havent seen before, and this bug, nice emoticons
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Tater
I wonder how reasonable it would be to use Steam datagram relays to prevent DoS attacks. I think it would work but you probably need to have the client running through steam to use it. https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/multiplayer/steamdatagramrelay
Learath2 2022-08-31 07:39:09Z
It would help, but we can't have the open source version connect to this as the code that authenticates the packet for the relay is closed source
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fokkonaut
You probably do some positions checks, or the rendering does, and here the positions Pos.x < 0
Voxel 2022-08-31 07:44:59Z
Oh yeah, i completely forgot about that check for the RunTime. Easy fix! (edited)
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btw, the map is run_jellyfish_fields
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 07:53:39Z
think i watched the video like at least 5 times now
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Voxel 2022-08-31 07:54:56Z
Cant believe I made a bug showcase that has comedic timing
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 07:55:34Z
justatest
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k2d222 2022-08-31 07:55:40Z
add some progressive audio distortion color saturation and post it on yt (edited)
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Voxel 2022-08-31 07:56:03Z
Anyways, I think after maybe a sit idle animation I'll submit this as a PR
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 07:56:21Z
can u show a 1:1 comparison
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Voxel 2022-08-31 07:56:34Z
Yea sure
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 07:57:51Z
sit idle animation? you mean with feet up? x
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fokkonaut
sit idle animation? you mean with feet up? x
Voxel 2022-08-31 07:59:20Z
Yea, I think that'd be cute for both if you're AFK/Timeout or on a specific tile used for chairs
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Top is no animation Bottom is yes animation
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:00:47Z
well, ok, in slow mo it actually looks dope
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Voxel 2022-08-31 08:01:01Z
Looking at it now, maybe the run animation is a bit wide in its current state
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Voxel
Yea, I think that'd be cute for both if you're AFK/Timeout or on a specific tile used for chairs
fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:02:48Z
and put away the weapon while setting haha :D or put it like on the back, so that players can still see what weapon the other person is holding
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Voxel 2022-08-31 08:04:45Z
You mean like this?
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:05:23Z
basically yea
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or the feet mirrored
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symetrical
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idk
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but this is dope
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anyways
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Voxel 2022-08-31 08:06:12Z
Maybe mirrored, so it takes less space in content.py
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:06:25Z
i think thats not a problem
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Voxel 2022-08-31 08:06:37Z
but that would involve overwriting the renderer to have both feet in front
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:06:43Z
you rely on afk state for that, sent by the server? or you do it when a tee is just standing still already?
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Voxel
but that would involve overwriting the renderer to have both feet in front
fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:06:59Z
true, then do it like ur picture
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fokkonaut
you rely on afk state for that, sent by the server? or you do it when a tee is just standing still already?
Voxel 2022-08-31 08:08:06Z
The plan is that you would stand still normally everywhere, but when the server clarifies you as AFK, you're now at the sitting down state. I could also go the extra mile and have it where if you're midair and afk the weapon is still on the back (edited)
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:08:35Z
yea, definitely dont make it grounded only (edited)
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grounded should only make the feet sitting
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but when ur in air just keep the weapon on the back and make it render the inair feet
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Voxel 2022-08-31 08:09:07Z
yea. midair feet still applies, just weapon is different position
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:09:13Z
ye
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it looks dope imo
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Voxel 2022-08-31 08:09:34Z
thanks! i'll try to make it a reality tommorow!
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:09:37Z
but anyways u know i am a big fan of ur sketches
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Voxel 2022-08-31 08:10:01Z
i'm flattered! it's really just a quick way to get my ideas out fast. one image can mean 1000 words.
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fokkonaut 2022-08-31 08:10:13Z
i know but i am so bad at drawing
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cant even draw a stickman that doesnt look terrible
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justatest
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Voxel 2022-08-31 08:13:05Z
RIP. For me, these type of sketches don't have to even be perfect. They just need to get the point across. Example in #off-topic
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Learath2
It would help, but we can't have the open source version connect to this as the code that authenticates the packet for the relay is closed source
ReiTW 2022-08-31 08:45:56Z
Can it be possible that in a near future ddnet might break compatibility to improve the netcode?
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fokkonaut
well, ok, in slow mo it actually looks dope
deen 2022-08-31 08:51:56Z
probably looks better with high refresh rate screens too
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ReiTW
Can it be possible that in a near future ddnet might break compatibility to improve the netcode?
deen 2022-08-31 08:52:37Z
Since we control server and client, can do, just have to keep compat. for the old version, so not sure how much is won by that
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-31 08:53:51Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5723 Update note about SDL bug macOS
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-31 09:01:47Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5688 Added menu entry for cl_showrecord
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Voxel
I think my first solo coding project is going to be a tee renderer/animation handler. Though I don't know where to start in terms of setting everything up.
gerdoe 2022-08-31 09:08:30Z
macroquad supremacy
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-31 09:20:16Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
dfaf359 Fix png error handling by setting jmpbuf, else libpng will kill the thread - Jupeyy 59db32e Merge #5763 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5763 Fix png error handling by setting jmpbuf
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Learath2 2022-08-31 09:54:04Z
That smells fishy, we have a longjmp in the code now?
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http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng-1.2.5-manual.html bizzarely enough they actually want you to do this. Weird design choice
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deen 2022-08-31 09:58:03Z
Yeah, Jupeyy said so too, weird design. And what if you have C++ code with exceptions? Didn't expect this in libpng
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Chairn 2022-08-31 09:59:01Z
good thing we don't use exceptions 🙂
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Learath2 2022-08-31 09:59:57Z
Is libpng even C++ aware? I thought it was C only
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Why would they have a fatal error function in a library anyway? Shouldn't the decision to kill the program be left to the user of the library?
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Just return something like LIBPNG_FATAL
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-31 10:25:50Z
I also thought u just set your error state there. It even accepts a user pointer to store such information. That makes it even weirder imo ^^
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Ğ0®!||Æ 2022-08-31 11:04:46Z
is the map finishing symbnol not available at sw 16.1 ?
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deen 2022-08-31 11:07:26Z
in the serverbrowser? should work
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but only in ddnet tab
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Ğ0®!||Æ 2022-08-31 11:07:39Z
hmm ok then i got different problem
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Voxel
I think my first solo coding project is going to be a tee renderer/animation handler. Though I don't know where to start in terms of setting everything up.
Romeo 2022-08-31 11:54:47Z
that sounds very rough for a first coding project ngl
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Voxel
I think my first solo coding project is going to be a tee renderer/animation handler. Though I don't know where to start in terms of setting everything up.
Learath2 2022-08-31 11:59:45Z
If you are going to do it without relying on tw code at all this will be a very very hard starter project. You'll need good knowledge of both the tw codebase and know a thing or two about coding your own renderer
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If you do however pull it off you'll have learned a lot along the way, at the risk of getting burnout and abandoning it in the middle
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Voxel
I think my first solo coding project is going to be a tee renderer/animation handler. Though I don't know where to start in terms of setting everything up.
Cellegen 2022-08-31 12:23:43Z
https://youtu.be/5aHhmRiVpZI
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Saying Goodbye to Animation State Machines
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I got inspiration on this
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pilonpl 2022-08-31 13:48:11Z
His videos are great
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Ryozuki 2022-08-31 13:48:15Z
https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/sync/struct.Mutex.html#method.get_mut
Returns a mutable reference to the underlying data.
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Since this call borrows the Mutex mutably, no actual locking needs to take place – the mutable borrow statically guarantees no locks exist.
Mutex in std::sync - Rust
A mutual exclusion primitive useful for protecting shared data
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epic
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Ğ0®!||Æ 2022-08-31 14:42:50Z
tw complett down
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what happend
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bomab 2022-08-31 14:55:05Z
probably just a temporary skill issue downtime
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Voxel
I think my first solo coding project is going to be a tee renderer/animation handler. Though I don't know where to start in terms of setting everything up.
Voxel 2022-08-31 14:59:11Z
i dont need this anymore. i already accomplished what i needed.
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Cellegen
https://youtu.be/5aHhmRiVpZI
archimede67 2022-08-31 16:01:57Z
This dude is amazing
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-31 16:46:02Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5794 Retry ipv4 dns resolve when ipv6 connection failed
Misconfigured networks can have ipv6 enabled but no connections possible, can result in problems like this: [2022-08-31 21:30:28][http]: https://master1.ddnet.tw/ddnet/15/register failed. libcurl error: Failed to connect to master1.ddnet.tw port 443 after 0 ms: Network unreachable After that failed we should retry with ipv4 specifically. Other applications seem to work fine.
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Cellegen 2022-08-31 17:52:57Z
@Discord Mod mind checking it out if it's not just sceme?
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Erik van Velzen 2022-08-31 18:23:45Z
https://fnwf.ieee.org/ipv6-based-5g-iot-cloud-computing-and-blockchain/
IPv6-based 5G, IoT, Cloud Computing and Blockchain - IEEE Future Ne...
SESSION OUTLINE The IPv6 Initiative at ETSI (3GPP) is attracting a very good number of players (100) including ISPs/Vendor/Academia from Europe, US and Asia to work on: Identify gaps and recommendations of existing and required IPv6 standards both inside ETSI and in other SDOs; Identify and describe IPv6 Network related use cases & specific scen...
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The next move for ipv6
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Cellegen 2022-08-31 18:30:43Z
Yo who the hell's idea was to make hook states like this, especially conditional hook scripts?
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basically almost 100 lines of code for hook, not involving serverside stuff
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Learath2 2022-08-31 18:31:15Z
Probably no one touched that code since matricks
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Cellegen 2022-08-31 18:31:58Z
justatest oh boy
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Learath2 2022-08-31 18:32:24Z
100 lines does sound reasonable to me though
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Cellegen 2022-08-31 18:32:49Z
only client side
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not mentioning serverside hook restrictions and stuff
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and conditional hooking does no good for customization, with only 6 variables, which 3 are velocity and other 3 are states
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(also idk why hook tick is a thing as I saw the code, but ok)
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Learath2 2022-08-31 18:34:21Z
hook isn't instant, I'm guessing the tick handles that
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Cellegen 2022-08-31 18:34:53Z
so, no lerping involved, I got frustrated about it 😄
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Learath2 2022-08-31 18:35:40Z
There is probably a lerp somewhere to make the animation smooth
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'拏 MAhdiyar 2022-08-31 19:46:16Z
what is erorr ? CMake Deprecation Warning at C:/Users/ASUS/Desktop/DDNet/googletest-src/CMakeLists.txt:1 (cmake_minimum_required): Compatibility with CMake < 2.8.12 will be removed from a future version of CMake. Update the VERSION argument <min> value or use a ...<max> suffix to tell CMake that the project does not need compatibility with older versions. CMake Deprecation Warning at C:/Users/ASUS/Desktop/DDNet/googletest-src/googlemock/CMakeLists.txt:42 (cmake_minimum_required): Compatibility with CMake < 2.8.12 will be removed from a future version of CMake. Update the VERSION argument <min> value or use a ...<max> suffix to tell CMake that the project does not need compatibility with older versions. CMake Deprecation Warning at C:/Users/ASUS/Desktop/DDNet/googletest-src/googletest/CMakeLists.txt:49 (cmake_minimum_required): Compatibility with CMake < 2.8.12 will be removed from a future version of CMake. Update the VERSION argument <min> value or use a ...<max> suffix to tell CMake that the project does not need compatibility with older versions.
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CMake Deprecation Warning at CMakeLists.txt:1 (cmake_minimum_required): Compatibility with CMake < 2.8.12 will be removed from a future version of CMake. Update the VERSION argument <min> value or use a ...<max> suffix to tell CMake that the project does not need compatibility with older versions. CMake Deprecation Warning at CMakeLists.txt:21 (cmake_policy): The OLD behavior for policy CMP0072 will be removed from a future version of CMake. The cmake-policies(7) manual explains that the OLD behaviors of all policies are deprecated and that a policy should be set to OLD only under specific short-term circumstances. Projects should be ported to the NEW behavior and not rely on setting a policy to OLD. CMake Warning at E:/Library for ddnet/cmake-3.24.1-windows-x86_64/cmake-3.24.1-windows-x86_64/share/cmake-3.24/Modules/Platform/Windows-GNU.cmake:224 (message): Disabling CMAKE_GNUtoMS option because CMAKE_GNUtoMS_VCVARS is not set. Call Stack (most recent call first): E:/Library for ddnet/cmake-3.24.1-windows-x86_64/cmake-3.24.1-windows-x86_64/share/cmake-3.24/Modules/Platform/Windows-GNU-C-ABI.cmake:1 (__windows_compiler_gnu_abi) E:/Library for ddnet/cmake-3.24.1-windows-x86_64/cmake-3.24.1-windows-x86_64/share/cmake-3.24/Modules/CMakeCInformation.cmake:71 (include) CMakeLists.txt:34 (project)
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-31 20:04:55Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5795 Port `CUI::ConsumeHotkey` from upstream
Move hotkey/input handling from CMenus to CUI. Using the ConsumeHotkey method ensures that each hotkey is only handled once. By also handling the mouse scroll wheel as hotkeys, this fixes the scroll keys activating scroll regions while the controls binder is active. Closes #5790.

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'拏 MAhdiyar
what is erorr ? CMake Deprecation Warning at C:/Users/ASUS/Desktop/DDNet/googletest-src/CMakeLists.txt:1 (cmake_minimum_required): Compatibility with CMake < 2.8.12 will be removed from a future version of CMake. Update the VERSION argument <min> value or use a ...<max> suffix to tell CMake that the project does not need compatibility with older versions. CMake Deprecation Warning at C:/Users/ASUS/Desktop/DDNet/googletest-src/googlemock/CMakeLists.txt:42 (cmake_minimum_required): Compatibility with CMake < 2.8.12 will be removed from a future version of CMake. Update the VERSION argument <min> value or use a ...<max> suffix to tell CMake that the project does not need compatibility with older versions. CMake Deprecation Warning at C:/Users/ASUS/Desktop/DDNet/googletest-src/googletest/CMakeLists.txt:49 (cmake_minimum_required): Compatibility with CMake < 2.8.12 will be removed from a future version of CMake. Update the VERSION argument <min> value or use a ...<max> suffix to tell CMake that the project does not need compatibility with older versions.
gerdoe 2022-08-31 20:17:21Z
update ur cmake
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btw u can generate project
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these are warnings
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-31 21:00:01Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
e7c3ce1 Port CUI::ConsumeHotkey from upstream - Robyt3 c7fcfc9 Merge #5795 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5790 Binding to mouse wheel up/down makes the controls scroll as well
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5795 Port `CUI::ConsumeHotkey` from upstream
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[quakenet] deen BOT 2022-08-31 21:22:19Z
Thanks murpi
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murpi 2022-08-31 21:37:00Z
lol ^^
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Learath2 2022-08-31 22:18:42Z
Is there anyone using firefox that can check if twitter videos volume control works for them?
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ReiTW 2022-08-31 22:19:26Z
Send one vid as example
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Learath2 2022-08-31 22:20:01Z
https://twitter.com/firefox/status/1433533531859337217
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ReiTW 2022-08-31 22:20:22Z
yes works
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Learath2 2022-08-31 22:20:31Z
can you change the level of the volume?
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ReiTW 2022-08-31 22:20:34Z
yes
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Learath2 2022-08-31 22:20:44Z
what version of firefox are you on and what OS?
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ReiTW 2022-08-31 22:20:48Z
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windows 10
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Learath2 2022-08-31 22:21:28Z
hm, I'm on 105 maybe that's what's broken
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nope I can't even on 104.0.1 :/
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bencie 2022-08-31 22:25:01Z
works for me on 104.0 and 104.0.1 (edited)
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ReiTW 2022-08-31 22:25:25Z
any plugin that might be the problem?
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Learath2 2022-08-31 22:27:42Z
I tried with a completely clean profile
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Ravie Senpai 2022-08-31 22:28:26Z
decrease your os sound
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Learath2 2022-08-31 22:29:13Z
I tried all the way back to ff65, so it's something about this specific computer, bizarre issue :/
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Learath2 2022-08-31 22:37:56Z
Impossible to debug with the way they obfuscate their shitty website too
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You can open it with the devtools if you set the attributes to of the control slider to css-1dbjc4n r-13w96dm r-1867qdf r-1p0dtai r-11d23sj r-ws9h79 r-h8hv3c r-xyw6el r-1yzf0co r-u8s1d r-v2u3o6 by hand
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