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Let's take the conversation from #mapping to here

01:27

But actually idk what to say

01:28

Maybe there is something we don't agree on?

probably

01:28

hardly anyone agrees with me

01:28

about politics i mean

Ryozuki

outside the walls aint it

smh u know what i meant

Is killing animals bad?

01:29

That's a very imprecise question actually

01:29

And i don't have an answer :(

i probably would like if governments fell apart and stuff

boi wada

01:29

wat da hell boi

xD

01:30

ye i have an idea for anarchism but it's entirely theoretical

Governments are great only if they're good

anarchism just leads to rudimentary governments

maybe, but now we have technology

01:31

we have the ability to build self-sustaining architecture backed by information

In theory we live in a anarchy where a bunch of people decided to control the country

we could ensure that people have access to healthcare, mental help, etc

01:32

it maybe sounds like a dystopia but

01:32

it could be rly nice

yeah thats definitely the setting for at least 100 dystopian sci fi novels

xD

01:32

but i think it would be fine

01:32

if it was opt-in society type thing

01:33

it is your right to not live in it

A world where no one argues about stupid ddnet mapping practices

lynn

it is your right to not live in it

Rich elites would probably then just opt out to not pax taxes to the government

there's no taxes?

if im understanding what you are saying correctly

there's no system of currency in my theory

im not then ye

it would be automated

lynn

there's no system of currency in my theory

So is everyone poor or everyone rich?

people would be self-organizing but AI would be there to guide need and be a useful tool for democracy

oh like robots doing everything?

pilonpl

So is everyone poor or everyone rich?

probably looks a bit like communist state of living

01:36

possibly better, I mean quality of life keeps improving

That is a post scarcity world

01:36

like the socialism that exists in star trek

01:36

which would be nice of course

not necessarily, people would have to do jobs

01:36

but people would figure out what to do by themselves, just as we do now

I do think government will always be necessary

01:37

and i think we are arguing for similar things

the AI would be in charge or expressing need, ensuring people have proper care, handling elections and similar things

The ultimate goal is for humans to do nothing

lynn

the AI would be in charge or expressing need, ensuring people have proper care, handling elections and similar things

hmmm

but what would be elected and total system would be still among the people to deternine

01:37

determine

idk how to feel about that

01:37

seems scary

as a software engineer it does not seem scary

01:38

lots of fearmongering in AI topics

01:38

and the AI doesn't even do anything

01:38

it just informs the public

01:38

in the current state of democracy we have things like disinformation

01:38

information that is not accessible for everyone

lynn

in the current state of democracy we have things like disinformation

i dont think this would ever go away with ai

with an AI system we have the ability to remove those impediments

01:38

ya it would

information being delivered is always biased somehow

anyone would be able to access it, by some means, i don't know how it should work specifically

i cannot fully envision the world in which imagine

maybe there is shared residence with some terminal, maybe they are separated, to me it's a bit trivial to work out

AI for now is science fiction and actually more fiction than science (at least for human like AI)

but i guess i dont fundamentally understand how it would work at all

pilonpl

AI for now is science fiction and actually more fiction than science (at least for human like AI)

but yeah not practical to worry about for now

funman

information being delivered is always biased somehow

biased on what? AI determines the information based on total population data

we should fixed our current problems

it is only biased by the total population

01:40

which is exactly what you should want anyway

01:40

total democracy

lynn

biased on what? AI determines the information based on total population data

?

01:40

im not understanding

yes

what i was saying is when information is delivered

01:41

there is always a form of bias on it

the AI is a tool for democracy. anyone can access it

Some people might argue that life would loose all meaning in such world

form of bias? how?

like when reporting new

01:41

news*

where does that occur?

01:41

there is no news reporting

01:41

the AI is its own reporter

which information is chosen to be reported

01:41

how it is framed

it's free to browse

wikipedia is biased as well

it would be displayed in some intuitive order

even though it doesnt seem like it

it's not like wikipedia

yeah i dont really get what you are arguing for tbh

it's an open system

01:42

cannot tell you what society would look like because they could vote for anything

hmmm

That wouldn't bebgood actually

I think you should have in mind what your ideal society should look like

ideas with enough attention would be held to vote, there is no voter issues since anyone can access it from their own residences

pilonpl

That wouldn't bebgood actually

People are dumb if you haven't realised yet

AI would aggregate voting data to make suggestions

01:43

the AI still doesn't force anything

01:44

people in self-organizing groups use it

Even the way a question is asked can suggest something

lynn

AI would aggregate voting data to make suggestions

so basically its like saying 70% of americans are in favor of roe vs wade

01:44

so dont vote republican?

I'm not really comparing our current society to something like this

01:44

note that i said it's theoretical

but thats what it would do right?

neutral position

tell you who to vote for

it could be based on popular vote

by your beliefs?

it could account for other thinfs

01:45

the AI would hopefully be fine tuned to make additional considerations

01:45

like how much the vote affects the particular population

tbh i wouldnt want it to take a neutral stance in america

01:45

as i am very far to the left

neutral position as i said

01:46

it doesn't really work right now

robot would be better as a leftie

you have to completely obliterate current society to get it to work

tragic

actually just like ddnet tho fr

01:47

need to nuke it and start over

if you just insert current society into it you have bad opinions floating around

01:47

but i trust that some neutral position humans inserted into something with a common language would use the AI to understand the total population (edited)

01:48

it encourages altruism

01:48

also maybe the AI can also determine the people who are just psychos

01:48

but seems a bit of a stretch

lynn

it encourages altruism

see but that isnt a neutral position

01:48

neutral positions dont exist

01:48

we need to do what we think is

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best

01:49

which would not be politically neutral at all

01:49

As im just going to say it

01:49

its the left

idk i think any baby born anywhere is relatively neutral xD

01:49

even if they are influenced by genetics

well we have evolutionary traits to work to together and such

01:50

but many people even discourage that

those are not necessarily harmful ideals

idk

01:50

all so tricky

it's theoretical :P

01:51

most of my politics don't rly apply to current society which is why i think i would like to reset

cool to think about

in terms of practical politics ehhhh

01:51

im still extremely liberal

lynn

most of my politics don't rly apply to current society which is why i think i would like to reset

wym i assume you are in favor of universal healthcare, free college, trans rights

Btw do you believe there is objective good in the universe?

all revelant

lots of anarchist views still apply

funman

wym i assume you are in favor of universal healthcare, free college, trans rights

yeah ofc

if you think about it any sort of corruption in this world still had to arise from some sort of genetic trait since the beginning of humanity anyways

well free college I'm not sure, I think everything should be as affordable as possible as long as there are no large drawbacks

louis

if you think about it any sort of corruption in this world still had to arise from some sort of genetic trait since the beginning of humanity anyways

certain traits can be beneficial and negative

in general i think governments are a bunch of bullshit when they say they could not afford it

lynn

well free college I'm not sure, I think everything should be as affordable as possible as long as there are no large drawbacks

I see it as an extension of highschool

tons of bailouts

would be nice if our education was better

lynn

in general i think governments are a bunch of bullshit when they say they could not afford it

fr, look how much we are paying on interest alone

my opinion is that the government is way too open with spending money on itself and not on the people here

01:54

anyone who refuses to think that is silly

01:54

so ofc im all for lower tuition and better FAFSA benefits

yeah

and healthcare ofc

01:54

imo trans rights are healthcare so like

01:54

zero difference there xD

01:54

but ye

Wdym "spending money on itself"?

lynn

imo trans rights are healthcare so like

there are other things besides healthcare

01:55

such as in schools

ok but where do u draw the line lol

i actually don't think America is THAT fucked up there are just specific grievances i have, and a lot of them are socially driven

01:55

and politically ofc shit is corrupted by money

lynn

i actually don't think America is THAT fucked up there are just specific grievances i have, and a lot of them are socially driven

trans stuff is way way better where you live

but if we could just fix some things it would be less of a big deal

01:55

it's fine here lol

thats what im saying

all of my meds are covered full cost

but in other parts of usa

by state insurance

01:56

yeah

it isnt the case

it should be free or at least low cost everywhere in the USA

01:56

y'know how much it costs through mark cubans website???

01:56

5 bucks lol

01:56

no excuse for it to be so expensive

funman

trans stuff is way way better where you live

In poland it's bad too

for how much supply?

01:56

1 month?

pilonpl

In poland it's bad too

id imagine

like 30-60 count

01:56

i cant remember

01:57

so ye like 1-2 months depends on dose

lynn

no excuse for it to be so expensive

dont even get started on insulin

yup

01:57

isn't it technically cheap to manufacture

copyright the genetic code of bateria

01:57

so no one else can make it

lynn

isn't it technically cheap to manufacture

very

pilonpl

In poland it's bad too

But it's mostly older and more religious people i think

can't believe we are ratioing people with a common disease

there's money to be made

but ye worst things about USA is college and healthcare

screw people dying

the rest is about marginalization and social issues

01:58

like

pilonpl

But it's mostly older and more religious people i think

yeah transphobia is pretty bad

if y'all look up stats on minority populations it's just ridiculously depressing

01:58

people are in terrible cycles

01:59

it's cus of the socioeconomic gap we have here

01:59

in other countries these gaps are smaller

01:59

lol

yeah

01:59

i dont know how people can look at wealth distribution

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and be like

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this is ok

xd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuqemytQ5QA

Kevin O'Leary says 3.5 billion people living in poverty is 'fantast...

02:00

look at this shit

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its insane

well america has normalized having unrealistic statistics

02:00

socially

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it doesn't surprise us anymore

02:00

that guy is such a prick xd

Idk, if someone is rich that's good for them i guess

pilonpl

Idk, if someone is rich that's good for them i guess

it will often come at exploiting others

02:01

look at ceos

True

they get paid by far the most

holy shit that video xddd

but what value are they adding compared to a worker

are you familiar with Gravity Payments?

the worst is like landlords

Dan Price

funman

it will often come at exploiting others

That's how this world works now

lynn

are you familiar with Gravity Payments?

no

his salary is the same as everyone else in the company

02:02

80k

02:02

it was adjusted for inflation

02:02

recently

based holy fuck

yea it's awesome

02:02

they always have like 200 applications for every position or something

companies should be run by the employees

02:03

but no one wants to hear that

What

depends

02:03

on what you mean by run

02:03

there should still be structure to roles imo

funman

companies should be run by the employees

That's totally stupid xd... Or is it

democratized workplaces

Idk

for deciding on things like what? marketing? or just pay and benefits?

02:04

im sorta lost

I think the current system is good enough

pilonpl

I think the current system is good enough

bro what?

I just want to live

lynn

for deciding on things like what? marketing? or just pay and benefits?

everything

seems like a lot for a single person to manage xd

02:05

i don't think i could do that

lynn

seems like a lot for a single person to manage xd

its not run by a single company

02:05

everyone in the comapany gets an equal voice

02:06

on how things are run

02:06

but i might be getting too radical for the ddnet discord

Why?

02:07

At least no one takes your ideas seriously

I didn't expect you to be so leftist based on last conversation xd

02:07

but pretty cool

Who?

lynn

I didn't expect you to be so leftist based on last conversation xd

how so

funman

02:07

idk last conversation you just wanted to argue xd

What did he say?

i dont remember anymore

I don't think i ever come across good on text

02:08

no way to interpret tone

02:08

im a much better speaker

maybe but

02:09

seems like you're normally upset with me

Text is just so emotionless

lynn

seems like you're normally upset with me

i dont think you have ever made me upset

for me it's easier but ive also spent a ridiculous amount of time texting

And arguing about mapping practices

xd

lynn makes everyone upset dw /j

some people piss me off

Even when i kinda agree with you

but its usually just when people dyn complain tbh

let them eat cake

thats probably the one thing that annoys me in tw

tax the poor

greenthing

1

Omg its 4 am already

u should sleep

I have to sleep

pilonpl

Omg its 4 am already

polsih moment

02:11

im half polish

Great

02:12

I spent so much time arguing about mapping practices

02:13

Bye

about what?

just read #mapping

Voxel

just read #mapping

im good

funman

but its usually just when people dyn complain tbh

you like dyn????

ofc

ononononono

bro you dont even play pvp

02:24

so i dont want to hear it

ye but better if people who are used to no dyn don't have to deal with dyn players

02:25

many people nowadays disable dyn

02:25

steam players

lynn

ye but better if people who are used to no dyn don't have to deal with dyn players

learn it

only people who play pvp will use dyn

i play dyn on all modes

people who only want to play occasionally won't use dyn

lynn

people who only want to play occasionally won't use dyn

then they will stay casual

to be fair even among pvp players your argument is less popular xd

02:26

i believe many don't use dyn

Yeah

02:26

but they are bad

meh

02:26

rather bad than use zooz

All good players in usa at least, dyn

but i understand ur point

02:27

would rather play pvp casually anyway

02:27

without dyn

dyn is a very fun mechanic if used right

02:27

it adds so many options

02:27

and static feels limiting

just frustrating to play on fng to try to have fun when people are tryharding

lynn

just frustrating to play on fng to try to have fun when people are tryharding

they thing is

i have to like intentionally join when good ppl arent playing

the people who rage that i dyn

that's why i like ddrace more than pvp btw

will lose just as hard to me playing static

because it isn't required to be as good as the others

you could be very good static player

02:28

but you would have to play so campy to compete

ye

02:28

imo i rather only play when noobs playing

02:28

and stay no dyn

02:29

but ofc that keeps me away from being competitive which idc

For me its the opposite

02:29

fng usa is so boring cause everyone is so bad

i couldn't take pvp seriously since it's not rly why i play the game

only a few players are any good

i like volleyball since it's sort of a neutral skill

lynn

i like volleyball since it's sort of a neutral skill

I would try it out

requires hook skill tho

But im probably not going to be able to play for around 2 months

02:30

maybe longer idc

02:30

idk*

prob won't either

Your's is probably by choice

02:31

Ive developed severe carpal tunnel

it's by choice yep

02:31

irl stuff

02:32

i lucked out by finding perfect gf to focus on

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best distraction

02:32

greenthing

The old ball and chain

love her 2 pieces so it's ok

02:35

idk we might like move to another country or some shit xd

02:36

@Krimp what do u wanna do gamer

02:36

stop being sick

lynn

idk we might like move to another country or some shit xd

feels like a big commitment

no pda plz

:3

02:38

well ehh kinda don't care what happens with my life

02:38

i could leave everything behind and just learn Indonesian or some shit xd

02:38

move

02:38

do boring job

02:38

im in a weird comfy depression

02:38

not sad just don't care what happens

damn

02:38

seems bad

ya like eventually i think i would like to stop playing teeworlds completely

02:39

but not sure if that's possible

02:39

i mean skeitroll tried

02:39

i care too much about it

02:39

so it takes up all my time

02:39

like it is right now

its all about moderation

02:39

I love the game

02:40

I dont ever want to give it up

ill check in some months maybe

but i wont let it ever get in the way

02:40

Do you go to therapy for your depression btw?

nope

02:40

i should :P

probably

i feel okay about it

02:41

i understand myself well

Im not depressed, but im still going to go

02:41

I have some anxiety and therapy has be proven to lead to better results

lynn

i feel okay about it

idk not caring what happens seems pretty bad

02:42

if you can i think it would be very beneficial to at least try

02:42

to go to therapy

I think if it's out of my control I'll go

02:43

or tbh if Kristie ever told me to go I would no questions asked

02:43

I should probably just go though

yeah

meh i just kinda do whatever

the way i see it there isnt a reason not to

it doesn't bother me nuch

02:43

much*

02:43

yeah true

I think you have probably convinced yourself that

02:43

but any depression is bad

i think it would not be free for me right now

02:44

and i have zero monies

but im not going to be a armchair psychologist

yaya

02:44

i definitely could use it

02:44

but maybe when i have a job

02:44

haven't had a job for almost a year now

02:44

well

02:44

i had a job for a couple months late last year

02:44

but lost it cus im a troll

it's whatever lol im still recovering from big issues in my life that were self-inflicted

02:45

last year

02:45

learning a lot

02:45

not exactly an incredible person if u can believe that

im not going to to pretend i know you

02:46

but I do hope things get better

lynn

not exactly an incredible person if u can believe that

and i wouldnt expect that from the way you present online

02:47

you seem to be nice, but again i dont know you

ehhhh im a mixed bag :D

02:57

things have improved a lot for me mentally

poggers

1

02:57

in the last year

02:57

i feel prepared to live my best life now but idk what to do really

damn

@Deleted User can u add me

07:08

i need to say something

07:08

pls

hey, can someone give me a hookfly bind with dummy

type unbind f1 in console

I just had an update on the discord mobile android app and stuff seems to be more sluggish than before anyone else?

clear cache xd

Cipy29

I just had an update on the discord mobile android app and stuff seems to be more sluggish than before anyone else?

I agree. Everything feels even more baby-ish than before. And the slew of bugs aren't fun either

u can also use the webpage version on phone, i also do that

Jupstar ✪

u can also use the webpage version on phone, i also do that

I might do that, I already use it on my PC

i dont like how searching for images now work. you have to Search the message, Scroll to find the image, Click the image, be dragged to search history where u cant copy anything, click jump to message, THEN click the image to copy link or download

Voxel

i dont like how searching for images now work. you have to Search the message, Scroll to find the image, Click the image, be dragged to search history where u cant copy anything, click jump to message, THEN click the image to copy link or download

Besides its not even working properly, what you said is true.

это я

who wanna send its entire genome by mail ?https://academic.oup.com/bioinformatics/article/25/2/274/218156?login=false

Human genomes as email attachments

Abstract. Summary: The amount of genomic sequence data being generated and made available through public databases continues to increase at an ever-expanding ra

by mail lmao

lynn

right here

where pencil

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