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Between 2022-08-16 00:00:00Z and 2022-08-17 00:00:00Z
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[quakenet] fokkonaut BOT 2022-08-16 06:10:56Z
ChillerDragon:
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fokkonaut 2022-08-16 06:11:33Z
could you check Wire
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Voxel 2022-08-16 06:46:13Z
Some spitball ideas for the editor (I'm aware these might not be implemented, but it would be nice)
  • Iconography for some of the elements, so that it's clearer what they do.
  • A layer sorting option to have the layers rather be down to up or up to down. Since almost all programs do down to up, it would be nice to have an option to make it the same.
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-16 07:03:45Z
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def-
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5744 Crash when clicking on Assets directory
From cheeser0613:
I randomly collect 3 feedback from 3 random guys that face this bug at midnight.
2 of them using win10 and another one win 11
about the appdata path, 2 of them does include chinese char but there is 1 not using any chinese string on the path
I also asked about the folder name of the game in appdata, 1 DDNet 1 Teeworlds and another havent reply
as an external, I ask the player that have ddnet folder change the folder name o teeworlds and try to click it again...
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и чо 2022-08-16 09:34:22Z
Why can't I join the Russian server?
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и чо
Why can't I join the Russian server?
sys_ctl 2022-08-16 11:42:55Z
same problem
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и чо
Why can't I join the Russian server?
Mʎɹ シ 2022-08-16 13:11:52Z
Cuz DoS
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-16 15:40:24Z
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Robyt3
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5745 Improve "couldn't open..." error messages by listing target
Also print the exact file/link that could not be opened.

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  • [X] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind'...
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Robyt3
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5746 Opening skin, assets etc. directories not working on Windows when user directory is given by relative path
I tried to reproduce #5744 by adding add_path temp火 as the first line in the storage.cfg. When trying to open for example the skins directory, the error [menus]: couldn't open file 'temp火/skins' is logged (with #5745). I also tried with just add_path temp, which also does not work. So this seems to be caused by the path being relative and not by unicode characters.
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GitHub BOT 2022-08-16 16:39:44Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
f0b0d4c Improve "couldn't open..." error messages by listing target - Robyt3 faa352e Merge #5745 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5745 Improve "couldn't open..." error messages by listing target
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 17:53:28Z
the price increase in energy reminded me of that picture with the most energy eficient languages
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using python is bad for the environment
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k2d222 2022-08-16 17:57:55Z
why such a big difference between js and ts wtf
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:04:20Z
why is java so good tho?
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minecraft pocket edition says no to that
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k2d222 2022-08-16 18:07:07Z
mcpe is c++
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:07:39Z
yes
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i also would have thought c++ is before rust. i mean rust compiles slower doesnt it?
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and c++ is still a bit faster than rust
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Jupstar ✪
and c++ is still a bit faster than rust
Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:12:46Z
not that i seen
18:12
the competition is between rust and c
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Chairn 2022-08-16 18:13:02Z
C master race
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:13:13Z
https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/download/fastest.svg
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:13:28Z
https://programming-language-benchmarks.vercel.app/cpp-vs-rust
C++ VS Rust benchmarks, Which programming language or compiler is f...
benchmarks,benchmark,performance,fannkuch-redux,helloworld,nbody,nsieve,spectral-norm,C++,C++ lang,Rust,Rust lang
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oh god that svg is so hard to read
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k2d222 2022-08-16 18:13:57Z
as always, depends how and what you benchmark
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:14:01Z
https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame/fastest/gpp-rust.html
C++ g++ vs Rust - Which programs are fastest?
C++ g++ Rust - Which programs are fastest?
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:14:02Z
yeah
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:14:08Z
yeah c++ still wins
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:14:08Z
benchmarks arent the source of truth
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:14:12Z
here*
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why should c++ be slower than c tho?
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just use the c code and compile it xD
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:14:34Z
xD
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Chairn 2022-08-16 18:14:56Z
because virtual i guess
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more indirect call in c++
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:15:04Z
u dont have to use it
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Chairn 2022-08-16 18:15:15Z
does rust have auto vectorization?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:15:21Z
c is like 99.99% subset of c++
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k2d222 2022-08-16 18:15:23Z
generally you benchmark on 'idiomatic' code which is subjective
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Chairn 2022-08-16 18:15:41Z
streams are also less efficient than c printf family
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:15:49Z
wtf?
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never
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streams are much faster
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just not c++ stupid std::cout stuff
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bcs it uses synced stdio calls
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streams are type safe, so the compiler can assume what comes
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and doesnt need to parse text
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:16:47Z
many ppl do that mistake to with rust printf
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Chairn 2022-08-16 18:16:47Z
each << or >> is a different function call
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:16:55Z
cuz it locks the io everytime
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its faster to get the lock 1 time
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Chairn
each << or >> is a different function call
Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:17:17Z
well c++ nowadays has variadic templates
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Jupstar ✪
bcs it uses synced stdio calls
Chairn 2022-08-16 18:17:18Z
but we need to compare default c++ versus default rust, not tuned ones
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:17:27Z
i think benchmarks are hypertuned
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:17:30Z
they are like constexpr evalutation
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Chairn
but we need to compare default c++ versus default rust, not tuned ones
Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:17:46Z
well standard c++ is far behind rust
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and c basically has no standard lib
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so u cannot compare it anyway
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Chairn 2022-08-16 18:18:40Z
c has standard lib?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:19:01Z
mhh
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i mean there is some stuff
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but its soo few
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k2d222 2022-08-16 18:19:36Z
huh? no?
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Chairn 2022-08-16 18:19:44Z
what do you lack?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:20:35Z
well maybe i should ask like this: what do u want?
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printf?
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network stuff is not standard already
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no filesystem, only fopen
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Chairn 2022-08-16 18:21:44Z
what do you mean no filesystem? you have file functions
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k2d222 2022-08-16 18:21:45Z
because all of that would mean generalizing hardware and os which is what c avoids generally (edited)
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Chairn
what do you mean no filesystem? you have file functions
Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:21:56Z
how do u list a directory in c?
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with only standard calls
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:22:12Z
benchmarks also dont reflect other stuff such as ease of use, mem safety, thread safety, and code speed
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k2d222
because all of that would mean generalizing hardware and os which is what c avoids generally (edited)
Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:22:20Z
yes i am not saying c has to do it
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:22:21Z
as in writing code
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:22:39Z
but chairn claimed c++ is not allowed to not use non standard stuff, bcs that would be "tuned"
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and i say, u cannot compare rust standard to any of c or c++ standard libs
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rust is by far superior (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:23:18Z
based
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Jupstar ✪
but chairn claimed c++ is not allowed to not use non standard stuff, bcs that would be "tuned"
Chairn 2022-08-16 18:23:41Z
the same holds for rust 🙂
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:23:54Z
but thats basically the sense of rust
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:23:58Z
rust hashmap std is way faster than c++ one
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:23:59Z
u have a package manager built in
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if u need a highly tuned version of whatever
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u just use that lib
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 18:24:34Z
and c++ regex is slower than opening php and doing regex there
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-08-16 18:24:38Z
xD
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c++ regex sucks bcs u cannot use it without try catch
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or ur code will crash xD
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Ryozuki
and c++ regex is slower than opening php and doing regex there
Learath2 2022-08-16 20:16:15Z
Mh, I'd think this depends on implementation. But LOL, what shitty regex implementation do they use?
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chillerdragon BOT 2022-08-16 20:18:33Z
Every other language probably implemented their Regex in C or C++
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chillerdragon
Every other language probably implemented their Regex in C or C++
Learath2 2022-08-16 20:28:36Z
Rust has a pure Rust regex engine. PHP and Python do rely on C implementations
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But I'm pretty sure no language uses the C++ std::regex to implement their regexes, given how badly everyone talks about the C++ ones
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Ryozuki 2022-08-16 21:20:36Z
rust regex is good
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but its not in the std
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and its a good thing they decided that
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https://docs.rs/regex/1.6.0/regex/
regex - Rust
This crate provides a library for parsing, compiling, and executing regular expressions. Its syntax is similar to Perl-style regular expressions, but lacks a few features like look around and backreferences. In exchange, all searches execute in linear time with respect to the size of the regular expression and search text.
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Voxel 2022-08-16 23:48:22Z
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