DDraceNetwork - general

louis

current mobile client is super annoying

bro i dont even know how to leave the server

00:00

once i join

00:01

unless im using an even worse mobile client, there were 2 mobile versions right?

if ur on android just press the back arrow

00:03

the system wide one

oic

00:05

feel like ive tried that before and it didnt work

00:05

but maybe im stupid

00:06

nvm it works kek

I found that the server I opened with Linux had opened the cheating instruction and the code for storing the results, but it seemed to be useless. When I re entered the game, the previous results would be cleared

Are there any rules for the in game chat?

just dont be toxic

voxic

yeah don't be voxic and will be all fine =]

says tsin

06:06

=]

how to do this part

06:49

wtf

hammer up and hammer wall

ohh

06:55

YES

06:55

finally

when my friend shared his screen to me while playing ddrace net he fell on snow but his tee had a sword and it was glowing how????

you turn to ninja when you freeze

how to do it?

jump into a freeze tile

texture pack?

nope

07:45

when you get freezed you turn into a ninja and you cannot move until you get out of freeze

07:50

like this

07:50

he is freezed

07:50

but he has a sword

07:50

and it glows

its normal

07:53

ninja is also used as the frozen tee skin

YuziFudo

when my friend shared his screen to me while playing ddrace net he fell on snow but his tee had a sword and it was glowing how????

old version of game

ymmm story time (grandpa Tsin will tell u a story) Once upon a time there was a very beautiful princess ............... (no wait wrong story) in a land full of love, peace and harmony (named Teeworlds) there were few evil Tees that figured out that running and shooting to everything alived is kind of boring and this needs a change. a tee named 3DA created a mod named "DDRace" and when he made it he had to go on some compromises. To make the game mod readable and compatible he picked ninja tee skin when a tee is freezed because:

you can't pick that skin normaly
teeworlds didn't had back then alot of skins
this was a rly good pick because graphics for freeze were shadows used from original grass_main tileset grass main tileset shadows also had to be picked because back then there was no fast download

map above 100 kb was downloading and downloading and downlooooooooooading (we luckly changed that on ddmax and added fast download) (edited)

SalmonZIk

old version of game

well, updating is not neccesary

bomab

well, updating is not neccesary

he asked why I answered. did I say anything about the obligation to update????

no but its still ninja on current version the difference is there is a freeze bar instead of stars rn and snowflakes ❄️

bomab

no but its still ninja on current version the difference is there is a freeze bar instead of stars rn and snowflakes ❄️

I'm well aware of that, so what then?

new version makes it easier for new players to understand it

Who are you talking to?

you

SalmonZIk

I'm well aware of that, so what then?

nothing, i just said updating is not necessary

bomab

no but its still ninja on current version the difference is there is a freeze bar instead of stars rn and snowflakes ❄️

i dont have ninja anymore when frozen

08:14

havent for a while

interesting

Tsin

ymmm story time (grandpa Tsin will tell u a story) Once upon a time there was a very beautiful princess ............... (no wait wrong story) in a land full of love, peace and harmony (named Teeworlds) there were few evil Tees that figured out that running and shooting to everything alived is kind of boring and this needs a change. a tee named 3DA created a mod named "DDRace" and when he made it he had to go on some compromises. To make the game mod readable and compatible he picked ninja tee skin when a tee is freezed because:

you can't pick that skin normaly
teeworlds didn't had back then alot of skins
this was a rly good pick because graphics for freeze were shadows used from original grass_main tileset grass main tileset shadows also had to be picked because back then there was no fast download

map above 100 kb was downloading and downloading and downlooooooooooading (we luckly changed that on ddmax and added fast download) (edited)

so the fact that a dark skin was chosen is because maps that included new images downloaded slowly? damn that is some wild lore (edited)

because map were downloading ultra slow 3DA had to pick something from original tilesets and because shadows from grass main tileset were dark so he had to pick dark/black tee skin so ninja skin was perfect for that (because you can't pick it normaly to play with it) (edited)

wouldn't you pick a skin that CONTRASTS with the shadows?

08:22

to be able to see a tee in the freeze (edited)

08:22

i figured they were lighter in that case

there were no other skins that a player can't use normaly if lets say when you would pick a grenade you would also change into twinbop then maybe it would be considered as freezed tee now imagine all tees being twinbop when freezed =]

on god if ddnet had procedural freeze blocks on tees thatd be awesome

pilonpl

Idk why but sometimes hammering through walls doesn't work

There are some wall hammer I can only do with v-sync activated, don't ask why

Voxel

on god if ddnet had procedural freeze blocks on tees thatd be awesome

yeep

10:06

imagine effect of freeze breaking

Nalrahc

There are some wall hammer I can only do with v-sync activated, don't ask why

no. this is not um

10:07

no

I know right

Omg, the polish translation is so stupid lol

10:58

I mean, the language is dumb

10:59

Most stuff is 10x longer

Nalrahc

I know right

NO IT'S NOT A THING

hey

11:35

can someone help me?

11:35

client freezesz

11:35

non stgop

lynn

NO IT'S NOT A THING

Obviously it's not, it's a blatant skill issue. But still...

I have weird skill issues with hammering through walls too (edited)

Beczunia

client freezesz

did you just update?

yes it updates automaticly

Probably amd beta drivers

steam version (edited)

11:38

i tried wit the solutions

11:38

that says to fix

11:38

but still dont work

11:39

i dotn even have opengl on rendering

Beczunia

but still dont work

did you try downloading 16.1

i got vulkan 1.0

and testing again

how i can back a steam update

just download the game here to test https://ddnet.tw/downloads

11:40

if you recently changed settings though that could be the issue

11:41

europeans are starting to wake up

11:41

they can better assist you

11:42

its almost 5am gn ddnation

still freeze

100% a settings issue then

11:42

backup ddnet config and delete it

11:42

then relaunch the game

11:42

did you change graphics options?

ye

11:42

resolution

what did you change

11:42

hmm

11:43

edit it back

11:43

to previous setting

11:43

in the text file

i cant

you can

cuz it freeze

11:43

the game

C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\Teeworlds

11:43

if you are on windows

11:43

open settings_ddnet.cfg

non o folder teeworlds

11:44

i dont have teeworlds folder

11:44

huh

you do

i mean

if you are on windows it's there

11:44

linux is ~/.teeworlds

when i hAd to rienstall ddracde

by default

i had to uninstall that tw folde rtoo

11:44

i got windows

if you launched the game and it crashed then those settings are there

11:45

usually these settings are the issue

11:45

occasionally setting specific backends will make ddnet crash (for some hardware)

11:45

which are saved further down

i cant read that language but uhhh what does that mean

11:47

that i dont have teeworlds

11:47

i got only ddnet

if you dont have teeworlds how is it crashing??????????

11:47

ddnet is teeworlds

11:47

it's a mod

only fgolder i got

11:47

is ddnet

screenshot of your ddnet install

11:47

if you're using steam it 100% exists

i use steam

11:48

but i recently

11:48

uninstalled that folder

you have to use client options at launch to tell it to look elsewhere for config data

now when i installed the game

otherwise it generates that folder

it didnt reinstall as well

then that's why it doesnt work!!!!!! it needs that damn folder!!!!!!

11:48

delete the folder then

11:48

and relaunch

lynn

delete the folder then

delete it from where if i dont have it :&

Win+R "%appdata%/teeworlds"

11:49

does nothing show up after that

nah

show me the screenshot for that

Beczunia

Click to see attachment 🖼️

.

11:50

thats the ss from %appdata%

that's not what shows up when you use the dialog box

11:50

if that folder is missing then it will try to regenerate it

how

11:51

i dont understand it huh

if you are launching a version of the game that used to work for you, then if it crashes it's a config issue

11:51

or recently your PC or driver updated

11:51

and changed software

when i go preferences on steam i dont have even the option to see local files xD

yea idk what the hell u did

11:52

but

11:52

you should uninstall and reinstall i think

the local files showed up

screenshot or cap

11:54

earlier

11:54

i didnt hav eeven this option

those aren't files

11:55

show me da files

ok so at least it's installed

11:56

when you double-click ddnet.exe, and then try to go to %appdata%/teeworlds it still isnt there?

11:56

if that's the case then it's crashing before config step

ye still no teeworlds folder

supr crazy

11:57

when you launch the game via site downloads

11:57

it doesnt make a folder either?

11:58

it must be a driver issue

11:58

are there logs in that folder?

i p[layed all wellyesterday

someone will probably be able to help you better than me but ill leave a tldr for the next person: none of the versions of the game work, not writing to config directory. somehow crashes even before that

well still thank you for trying

can u confirm if any drivers updated?

11:59

nvidia etc

i odnt think its driver issua cuz i played normaly yesterday its after the setting change and reinstalling everything

12:00

happened

you say "settings change" but the folder doesnt even exist so im confused

12:00

you would have had to manually delete that folder yourself

yes i did

12:01

cuz i had a problem

12:01

with tw

what was the problem?

just a bind didnt work

xD

you can just "unbind x"

im stupid ik

12:02

nono

12:02

i couldnt

12:02

thats the prob

12:02

and the fact i couldnt find it in files

12:02

i decided

12:02

to uninstal them

12:02

and reinstall ddrace

its writing somewhere else

12:02

it might be in the data directory for steam

12:03

i would check that ddnet folder everywhere

12:03

for possible config files

12:03

it may have persisted idk

12:04

i sleep cus its 5am for real

gn

12:04

thx for help

good morning everyone

Hi

he

12:13

hey

12:14

great i can play but when i get to the setting insta freeze

@Beczunia can you give a me TLDR the problem you're facing? (edited)

Who can help me?

do what it says

12:17

you have a vpn?

I have not any VPN, proxy etc

not sure, ask murpi

murpi

@Beczunia can you give a me TLDR the problem you're facing? (edited)

hello murpi, can you help me?

murpi

@Beczunia can you give a me TLDR the problem you're facing? (edited)

everything is wrote up but in shorcut client freezes me

AveS

Who can help me?

its on DDnet server

12:20

on all rus1 servers

12:21

is it because i from Ukraine?

12:21

but i can enter rus3 servers

@AveS No I can't :/

lol

12:23

nobody can?

heinrich probably can, but hes on vacation I think?

So, does anyone know how to get around this? Maybe I need to use some programs?

@Beczunia What GPU do you have? Have you updated your drivers? (edited)

like hard disk serial number changer

@AveS DM me your public IPv4 address (edited)

if you are reporting someone go to reports

murpi

@AveS DM me your public IPv4 address (edited)

i cant DM you, maybe you need to DM me first

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

#reports send here

AveS

Who can help me?

@deen could this just be a hoster problem?

I don't think so

12:46

I think their ISP might be doing something weird

@murpi seems like only your friends can DM you. Please write me something, and i will write you my IP

I think that lynn forgot that %appdata%/teeworlds doesnt exist if you never used normal teeworlds client

13:33

If you've only used ddnet then it's %appdata%/ddnet

Alexander

If you've only used ddnet then it's %appdata%/ddnet

i didnt have this, huh

Alexander

If you've only used ddnet then it's %appdata%/ddnet

lol?

13:34

megatrollete

What

13:35

I mean it's p much the same

13:35

It's just when you have to explain to someone that just started playing it will confuse them

afaik enginestorage is Teeworlds by default

ah it does generate that folder if teeworld folder doesnt exist

we use both teeworlds and ddnet directory

Well I don't have teeworlds folder

neither do I

AveS

@murpi seems like only your friends can DM you. Please write me something, and i will write you my IP

teeworlds folder is prioritized if the ddnet directory doesn't exist

13:36

oops, wrong reply

13:36

@AveS can't dm you either

murpi

we use both teeworlds and ddnet directory

chn community keep complaining about the this "asset directory" will crash the game, maybe it is because of the new path i guess

murpi

teeworlds folder is prioritized if the ddnet directory doesn't exist

add me to friends ^^

Alexander

I think that lynn forgot that %appdata%/teeworlds doesnt exist if you never used normal teeworlds client

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4509 it's relatively new (edited)

since 99% of the new player come from chn community

13:38

but idk does this bug is occur by other and created issue or not

murpi

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4509 it's relatively new (edited)

Ah didn't know

murpi

@Beczunia What GPU do you have? Have you updated your drivers? (edited)

bro there is everything up

13:39

no drivers

13:39

i just deleted tw folder

13:39

reinstalling wont hgelp

13:39

i get the problem on every version

Is the resolution you changed the same as your computer monitor resolution?

no

13:40

i play 4:3

13:40

like always

13:40

i can play gam

13:40

ebut when i go setting

13:40

crash

13:40

and have to play on this fucked 16:9

Weird

Beczunia

no drivers

No drivers? not even intel hd graphics or smth?

when i said no driver i meant no problem with them

I'll just repeat my question: Have you updated your drivers?

13:42

(manually)

yes

13:42

my tw folder

13:42

is just missin

13:42

and when i9 try to go to the ddrace setting

13:42

crash

13:43

cuz i dleeted it

Which directory? The one on %appdata%, or the one on your Main Folder? (edited)

appdata one

does anything, perhaps windows itself block changing resolutions? Or perhaps the driver itself is restricting the scale?

i think the problem is with that missing folder

13:44

when i just go to seettings

13:45

it insta crash

13:45

i always played with 4:3

13:45

res of my pc

cheeser0613

chn community keep complaining about the this "asset directory" will crash the game, maybe it is because of the new path i guess

Doesn't crash for me

probably, @murpi did the localization change or it won't regenerate the folder, when not found?

murpi

Doesn't crash for me

same for me, so i never mention this before kek

13:45

but this sound keep getting more and i still dont know what happen

@Beczunia Do you have a DDNet folder in appdata?

ddnet folder??

EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

we just talked about the new config dir few lines above this one (edited)

didnt check

13:47

mb

The problem is to many people trying to help at once

I didnt know you guys changed the directory thonk

same

murpi

The problem is to many people trying to help at once

A solution to that could be adding a ticket system

but now i know dont worry

Player X

A solution to that could be adding a ticket system

That's not a solution but rather just another place I would need to check when people run into problems

I mean multiple it'd only work if multiple people tried to help (obviously it wouldn't help if it's only you, just isolate each problem) (edited)

cheeser0613

but this sound keep getting more and i still dont know what happen

A crash dump would be nice

murpi

@AveS DM me your public IPv4 address (edited)

done

murpi

@Beczunia Do you have a DDNet folder in appdata?

yes

Player X

I mean multiple it'd only work if multiple people tried to help (obviously it wouldn't help if it's only you, just isolate each problem) (edited)

What I mean is, it doesn't prevent people from asking in the chat channels ^^

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Beczunia

yes

DM me when you're done playing, then I can help you debug the issue

16:10

4444 (edited)

https://tenor.com/zJ3J.gif

did anyone ban @Salmon#7500?

lol

@daria hi

zdamasus

did anyone ban @Salmon#7500?

can you answer the question

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cheeser0613

chn community keep complaining about the this "asset directory" will crash the game, maybe it is because of the new path i guess

can you create an issue and tag deen?

Jupstar ✪

can you create an issue and tag deen?

nop, since i cant reproduce

17:14

ill when i know how to reproduce it

maybe they have a chinese name as windows user?

idk maybe

if its multiple ppl that complain an issue might still be worth it

ill take note when someone report this again

what im doing wrong?

probably the countries and types section is active

17:42

on the right

17:43

if you have types selected as filters, then just turn those off, on countries, I'm not sure if those are necessary

it doesn't change anything (edited)

@Desu Can you reach https://master1.ddnet.tw/ddnet/15/servers.json in your browser?

Desu

it doesn't change anything (edited)

same thing here

18:01

is ddnet down?

No

18:03

@Ar1gin Does the link above load for you?

nah, not even the ddnet.tw

murpi

@Ar1gin Does the link above load for you?

Does it work for you?

Yes

Ar1gin

nah, not even the ddnet.tw

ddnet ban

@Desu What country r u from?

it looks like ddnet.tw ip or dns lookup is blocked in russia according to this message https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/252358080522747904/1008780953461727363

russia moment

Russia servers are weird

18:27

They seem laggy

Ar1gin

russia moment

a fellow rust programmer i see

18:30

now you just need to remove the c++ from the description and you will level up kek

18:30

C++ is cool

18:31

Rust is cool too but its borrow checker makes my brain hurt (edited)

C++?? I have 5 years of experience in carbon

10*

tbh i want to code in rust but i never got the kick out of actually doing it

Ar1gin

Rust is cool too but its borrow checker makes my brain hurt (edited)

so you still have to learn

18:32

I am more scared by the file size of binaries

ugh not again

Hello wordl: 1mb

A program that prints a single "Hello, world!" takes 300mb of my disky

eh not rly

Because

18:33

Libraries i think

18:34

https://youtu.be/ExwqNreocpg he had the same issue

MattKC

Can you fit a whole game into a QR code?

i found a pretty good graphical library called nannou, which will be super helpful in the future

hello world binary in rust doesnt tak 300mb

Rust is just smarter

18:36

As far as i know

Rust is just not made for what i'm making

what are you making

Gamz

18:37

I don't like unity so i made my own C++ engine

???

18:37

Ok

18:37

2d?

yeah

18:37

my brain is too small for 3d

Well, you can make games with rust too

18:38

And there are other game engines too

18:38

Like godot

godon't

18:39

i like having 3000 memory leaks

You can even make games in python

you know what would be fun? if there was a qr code that stored code to make much bigger qr codes, so you could download ddnet without an internet connection

Python is slow as turtle

It is slow

18:40

It works tho

I only use python for z3

What's z3

z3 solver

Oh

theorem prover

I heard about that

18:41

Python is good for ai stuff and data science. I know that from memes

Just noticed, this is #general

That is fine

Ar1gin

Rust is just not made for what i'm making

rust fits game much more than c++

18:43

hilarious to say otherwise

It's mem-safe but i had so much problems with borrow checker

also if u wanna alook around, a state of the art ecs game engine https://bevyengine.org/

Bevy - A data-driven game engine built in Rust

Bevy is a refreshingly simple data-driven game engine built in Rust. It is free and open-source forever!

I know about it

18:44

I even used it

its not just mem safe it gives you fearless concurrency too

18:44

and being mem safe is much more important than you think

18:45

its funny too see the amounts of mem leaks in ddnet

18:45

and buffer overflows

https://youtu.be/96ht7rd3Y5I

Tantan

I made a Voxel Engine with Rust (NO GAME ENGINE)

@Voxel they made u

oh and here is my empty bevy project size

2

18:46

I even changed some configs to try to reduce it's size

18:47

not sure if i did it right

Alexander

@Voxel they made u

read title of yt video

voxel engine: made to do things im too lazy to do

Ryozuki

also if u wanna alook around, a state of the art ecs game engine https://bevyengine.org/

Do you know how they made ECS in rust? I do not and i want to

there are many impls of ecs

18:48

but i mentioned bevy one because it uses a novel memory layout

18:48

even unity tried to sue them

18:48

kek

I thought ECS was only possible in C#

Ryozuki

there are many impls of ecs

i read that as incels of ecs

Ar1gin

I thought ECS was only possible in C#

you probs just heard of the entity framework

18:49

which is a ORM

18:49

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity_component_system

Entity component system

Entity Component System (ECS) is a software architectural pattern mostly used in video game development for the representation of game world objects. An ECS comprises entities composed from components of data, with systems which operate on entities' components. ECS follows the principle of composition over inheritance, meaning that every entity ...

18:49

ECS is a pattern that allows really good parallel execution

18:49

and rust excels at that

18:49

cuz it has thread safety

18:50

thanks to the borrow checker

I just don't understand how can you make an ECS without reflection...

you think there arent ECS in c++ either?

18:52

minecraft uses a ECS too

18:52

and its not implemented by mojang

18:52

https://github.com/skypjack/entt

GitHub - skypjack/entt: Gaming meets modern C++ - a fast and reliab...

Gaming meets modern C++ - a fast and reliable entity component system (ECS) and much more - GitHub - skypjack/entt: Gaming meets modern C++ - a fast and reliable entity component system (ECS) and m...

18:52

they use this one

In C++ you just override update/draw functions to make entities

im 2 lazy for this xd

Or i just don't know any better way to do it

https://austinmorlan.com/posts/entity_component_system/

A Simple Entity Component System (ECS) [C++]

Ever since first hearing about Entity Component Systems and their implications in game development, I’ve wanted to build one for my own usage and knowledge. There are a few examples that people have built and posted online (1, 2), and there are a few full-fledged ones that can be used to build real games (3 , 4). I liked different aspects of eac...

18:53

for c++

18:53

a tutorial

Interesting...

https://ianjk.com/ecs-in-rust/

18:54

for rust

18:54

dont expect these to be at the quality of bevy one tho

18:54

they are magicians

Imagine ddrace written in rust

Let's do that

18:56

Rewrite the whole game in rust

18:57

(and make a better map editor)

whats wrong with the map editor

18:57

(curious) (edited)

it's very unintuitive

Lack of any QoL

18:58

Pretty much No automation

automapper

And that's it

tho tbh if i were to make anything id make a visual tool for making automappers

Ar1gin

Imagine ddrace written in rust

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5599

WIP Rust PoC by heinrich5991 · Pull Request #5599 · ddnet/ddnet

Voxel

tho tbh if i were to make anything id make a visual tool for making automappers

Why? That's the least important feature

19:00

Id rather have more automation

in what sense do you mean automation

Redoing last action could be quite usefull

19:04

Like in vim i believe and blender

undo and redo was super buggy in ddnet

Also there is no move tool

19:05

Undo would be great to have too

pilonpl

Redoing last action could be quite usefull

oh i know what you mean but... what context would this be used in?

Building towers

19:06

I guess

19:06

Lol

19:06

Idk

19:06

Seems usefull

19:09

Move tool is the most important

what do you mean move? you can already copy/paste

19:11

you can also shift a layer

But I can't move stuff

you can: copy/paste, erase

Erasing takes time

19:12

Maybe only few seconds

19:12

But it's still is some amount of time

19:13

Also building game entities should be automatic

sounds like that to be honest

https://img.devrant.com/devrant/rant/r_636522_RqpS7.jpg

Well

19:17

I have used the editor before

19:17

And it's not good

19:17

I have used basic sql before too

cyberpunk

Omg

ddrace in terraria????

ye i guess

19:19

BUT I DON`T play in TMOD

Btw we should add movable entities/boxes to the game

19:20

Companion cube

huuh

Ar1gin

ddrace in terraria????

The dream

Phoenix

The dream

ddrace mod:D

Maybe even space exploration update

19:25

:0

19:25

Survival mode

19:27

Has anyone made black apple in ddnet?

19:28

If not i am going to be the first person to do that

Map: Memento Mori

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guys could u help me solve a problem my ddnet client is not showing any servers bcause of UDP filter, something like that

20:31

how can i fix it?

Chairn

sounds like that to be honest

https://img.devrant.com/devrant/rant/r_636522_RqpS7.jpg

xd

pilonpl

I have used the editor before

the editor is rly good just takes time to learn the shortcuts

BjiaguK

how can i fix it?

Disable software firewall, vpn, cloud accelerator

deen

Disable software firewall, vpn, cloud accelerator

idk how, but problem solved by it`s own

Chairn

sounds like that to be honest

https://img.devrant.com/devrant/rant/r_636522_RqpS7.jpg

Nothing wrong with writing new SQL databases! Keeps me employed

deen

Disable software firewall, vpn, cloud accelerator

but even when i did this all, that didn`t help

deen

Nothing wrong with writing new SQL databases! Keeps me employed

which color is your favorite SQL database ?

Chairn

which color is your favorite SQL database ?

obligatory mention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs

gar1t

Episode 1 - Mongo DB Is Web Scale

Wawka

Click to see attachment 🖼️

oh, konsti is gone

lynn

the editor is rly good just takes time to learn the shortcuts

Could be a bit better imo

22:28

But yea still nice

I didnt even know the basics of the editor ;-; its not beginner friendly imo

i guess the main problem is that no developpers is also a mapper

2

22:38

and to be honest, no developpers is also playing as much compared to main known players (edited)

Ryozuki

obligatory mention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs

HAH i remember this video

22:50

ill teach the editor whenever the web one gets better

Chairn

oh, konsti is gone

you can find him in testing chanels i think

@ᶰ°Konͧsti https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/1008864338364346449