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Nora 2022-08-05 02:45:12Z

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which project?

https://github.com/Tyrrrz/DiscordChatExporter

06:02

also, when can there be a separate freeze skin and ninja skin?

06:03

the new visual changes are nice, but it doesnt make sense if we keep a dark-dressed ninja tee to represent a frozen tee...

06:04

and yeah some people are gonna say "well we cant use a single frozen skin to accommodate all tee skins"

06:04

but a ninja skin is just objectively worse as it doesnt accommodate any tee skin differences either

06:04

on top of not making sense

ou yes pls replace ninja with ice cube

on one hand i really like the concept of ninja skin as freeze, it just feels at home on the other this is kind of a funny idea anyways

cute

07:01

i need that

07:01

@Voxel is that an actual skin? i wanna buy

hii

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

@Voxel is that an actual skin? i wanna buy

not yet, i just doodled it in 4 minutes

even this is better than black ninja (wtf this sounds racist)

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07:10

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/252358080522747904/964618663049191474/unknown.png also on the todo list is add pets troll

YES PLS ADD PETS

louis

even this is better than black ninja (wtf this sounds racist)

tbh light ninja as freeze and dark ninja as weapon i can get used to

add it in ddrpg

07:11

a new ddnet franchise game

07:11

actually id love tees to be like a franchise similar to mario yk

thatd be awesome

07:12

we could sell saddo plushies.. ❤️

nouis plushie

07:18

actually ive had ideas of like a tw rpg game

07:18

would be very cool

what would be the story?

i didnt think that far

07:19

how about the tees meet the threes which are triangle shaped foes as opposed to the spherical shaped tees

reminds me of nepal flag

Threes and Fours Tees and Foes

just make a story similar to kirby + any isekai Explore and enjoy the time with some plot twist (edited)

07:29

fits for tw

@louis i prefer ice blue over white and black

07:45

plushies!!!!!!!!!!

07:45

Nora

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While I agree with all these, I'm not sure what the point of code like this is. Not like you are changing any minds with it, nor does your project control any significant capital to make real change

Learath2

While I agree with all these, I'm not sure what the point of code like this is. Not like you are changing any minds with it, nor does your project control any significant capital to make real change

Answer of the project owner

I agree with him, but these terms dont change anything about his livelihood is my point

Of course you're right, it doesn't prevent a Russian from using this code or doesn't stop the war (edited)

08:19

https://github.com/Tyrrrz/.github/blob/master/docs/why-so-political.md

god i already hate this guy like i get its for support and all but how is this going to not only change the war but whos using it? its kind of stupid that he expects us to use the code with an active mindset on the whole russia ordeal

08:22

"we did it boys, war is no more"

You just have to laugh and move on with your life. People don't even care about real licenses.

If it was a huge project like sqlite3 I could see some use to it. It'd force big companies that use sqlite3 to basically say russia bad

oh yea good point

but which big corp use sqlite3? :troll:

Most people think that if a code is open source, they can do whatever they want with it.

Which they usually also can

True. Hence the audacity of corporations like streamlabs basically stealing OBS

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

but which big corp use sqlite3? :troll:

sqlite3 can be used if the site is not getting more than 150000+ hits per day.

I wonder if at some point github will search for code copyright violations like youtube does for music and video copyright violations

If you report a stolen code in a dmca thread on github, it will be removed.

Ah yea but nothing automated

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

I wonder if at some point github will search for code copyright violations like youtube does for music and video copyright violations

Definitely not, the fact that their copilot is basically ignoring all licenses they probably don't care much about copyright violations

copyrighted code? how would that work? your enum has the same name as nvideas? (edited)

But you still can't prevent that person from using your code xd.

@Learath2 tru they would have to report them self :D

Can github use my code to improve the copilot without me accepting something?

I think a certian amount of pattern and variable naming could be defined @Voxel i mean university always claim they got tech to detect students stealing code but maybe they just say that :D

08:29

@Nora it does

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

I think a certian amount of pattern and variable naming could be defined @Voxel i mean university always claim they got tech to detect students stealing code but maybe they just say that :D

weird

@Voxel its also weird with music or video isnt it?

08:29

its blurry

i mean with music its different because its more defined and disconnected. with code its all building blocks

Code is pretty defined too

08:31

Code might have same similar enum names and songs might have similar lyrics

08:32

I tried to use DMCA thingy on github once to take down a teeworlds bot repo :D but it didnt work because he dint violate copyright ... who would have seen that coming

Honestly most of copyright law is very much a grey area. Lawyers and governments always like to pretend it's very well defined. I guess the only thing that's consistent in copyright rulings is that the side with more money usually wins in the US

yea its a mess

08:34

but youtube kinda solved 14yo putting full adele song in their minecraft letsplay

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08:34

same github could cover posting decompiled minecraft code to github (which they prolly do alr because they care about mc :D)

Source engine has open source code on github

not sure if software licenses are more complex due so many different types and forks and shit

08:36

im sure lawyer jopstar could solve this in 100 lines of code

08:37

to write perfect legal AI that reports software license violations

08:37

yo @Learath2 how is the 0.7 dissector coming along?

I haven't made any progress

08:39

But it's nothing special to the dissector. I havent made any progress in anything

you progressed in life

old man

08:43

progresstination this should be a word

08:43

no idea what it would mean tho

08:44

im also just ideling in irc bcs im too lazy to debug da fakin protocol

08:44

this channel is worse than tiktok

Chairn

you progressed in life

Hm I guess if you take a very literal definition of progress, yes

time helps you to mature and think things through

when making songs open source? trollge

Iza

could you bring the old ninja freeze back, at least as an option like cl_old_gun_position?

what do you mean with that?

louis

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Do you want to make a freeze skin? @Ravie just turned the ninja skin white, but maybe you have an nicer idea

11:02

@louis you can test this build https://github.com/C0D3D3V/ddnet/actions/runs/2803179454 (https://github.com/C0D3D3V/ddnet/tree/update_hud) I will also make an video (edited)

11:02

(the ninja bar is not in final form, I just wanted to make a test build)

ninja_bar-2022-08-05_13.13.19.mkv

32.86 MB

Embeddable

with less lag: https://reputationsheriffkennethsand.com/e/0qjidmyus5cj

Watch ninja_bar-2022-08-05_13.18.16.mp4

mh voe.sx seems to be pretty annoying with its adds xD I tried to find a way to upload the videos, without using youtube :/ Does someone know a good alternative, with no adds, that is still fast and allows enough upload space

Chillerdragons service xd

wot

Opentube

wot about it xd

13:09

a

13:10

didnt read the prev message was too long

13:11

@c0d3d3v yea if you have a vps with disk space you can just serve mp4 files using any web server and upload as fast and much as your disk and bandwith allow

13:11

honestly i wouldnt recommend using opentube even if i activley use it. Its ugly and its a kinda works for me setup :D

13:13

I can't belive im saying this. But whats wrong with discord videos? xd

13:13

its basically a free file hoster .. well assuming that your data is worth nothing hrhr

13:14

no ads and can be shared even outside of discord

discord's stuff can also be shared outside discord

13:14

it's also a surprisingly cheap file hoster

was that bridge lag or did you just copy my message? xd

I misread your message

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c0d3d3v

what do you mean with that?

Before the update, when you were freezed your skin turns into ninja skin with ninja sword and all that, me and other people want to have that style back as we‘ve grown very used to it and we find it alot more aesthetically pleasing

c0d3d3v

Do you want to make a freeze skin? @Ravie just turned the ninja skin white, but maybe you have an nicer idea

Instead of all these ice cube ideas, just make the tee itself ice blue

13:35

Just a suggestion

13:36

Since i don’t think it’s fitting to the game at all if the tee turns into an ice cube

to me, it doesn't sound too bad to put an ice block around the tee

13:36

given that we happily lived with the skin changing to a literal ninja for years

Iza

Since i don’t think it’s fitting to the game at all if the tee turns into an ice cube

hows it not fitting

13:37

also what if someones skin is already ice blue

Tees are usually round

c0d3d3v

Do you want to make a freeze skin? @Ravie just turned the ninja skin white, but maybe you have an nicer idea

i mean ill try today

13:37

my graphics skills are alright but pale in comparison to ravie or voxel

It will take me a long time to force myself to get used to an ice cube tee

13:38

For my part

heinrich5991

given that we happily lived with the skin changing to a literal ninja for years

Thats how i was introduced to the game and I liked it

that sounds to me like 'change is bad'

13:40

which is okay

13:40

but I wouldn't call it something else

13:40

i.e. not claim that a ninja actually fits better for freeze

It does but as a creator you’ll always face that

if the freeze skin was a literal poop emoji for years we would get shamed for trying to change it i swear

Probably

13:41

But you had no problem implementing „cl_old_gun_position“ for these people

13:41

I’m just suggesting that you could do it again

we'd have a problem implementing cl_old_gun_position today

i think the ice "cube" could still be round to fit the tee shape

That’s what I think

yea that would be better

I'd suggest to look at actual drawings instead of theorizing what might or might not look better

13:44

I don't think this theorizing will lead to useful input

i suggest doing an actual draing of something thats round instead a cube

sure, do it

I can’t draw, I only have my theories xd

we can then compare

my drawings sok tho

13:44

but if the cube looks solid its just a wrong hitbox

not for collision ^^

ha tru

then ask someone who drew a whatever-shaped ice object to try to make it round to see how it would look like

13:45

but I don't like this idea dismissing before we've actually seen it ^^

are there drawings alr?

If we‘d portray freeze as Ice cube, how do we portray deep?

darker ice

13:46

ez

Just same with different eyes? I’ve found that idea always lme

13:46

Lame

I think there were some attempts already, e.g. in Zeta-Hoernchen's old ddrace

13:47

but I don't want to dig it up rn, you can look for it if you want

heinrich5991

but I don't want to dig it up rn, you can look for it if you want

I don’t think I’ll find much about it with a blank internet search

13:49

I found your github tho

13:49

https://github.com/Speedy-Consoles/teeworlds/blob/cd00e730b384eab25528ec2aa5573f68e3d284ac/data/freeze.png, I think it looked quite good in-game

yea those edges are very round

13:53

that might work

it doesn't quite look like ingame, ingame it was a lot more transparent, I think

https://zillyhuhn.com/OpenTube/videos/users/chiller/tee_on_the_rocks.mp4

14:17

feet should be covered too i guess

14:18

and im not an artist so this is more concept than the real thing

14:24

theres already a similar skin in the database

14:25

but i guess this tee inside should be less saturated

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

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Not bad

it will probably break with weirdly shaped skins :c

14:28

wow but i gotta say the light skin is a hughe change. Going from dark to light is gonna need some time to get used to

https://www.hyrumslaw.com/

14:32

With a sufficient number of users of an API, it does not matter what you promise in the contract: all observable behaviors of your system will be depended on by somebody.

14:32

this could be applioed to games

14:32

xD

14:33

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_tank_problem

German tank problem

In the statistical theory of estimation, the German tank problem consists of estimating the maximum of a discrete uniform distribution from sampling without replacement. In simple terms, suppose there exists an unknown number of items which are sequentially numbered from 1 to N. A random sample of these items is taken and their sequence numbers ...

14:34

interesting

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https://godotengine.org/article/godot-3-5-cant-stop-wont-stop

Godot 3.5: Can't stop won't stop

After 9 months of development, Godot 3.5 is out and it comes fully packed with features and quality of life improvements! This includes a new Navigation system, 3D physics interpolation, Label3D and TextMesh, an Android editor port, asynchronous shader compilation, and more!

oh man, the oldest, unmarked issue/discussion https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/237

Predict teleporters and extended teles · Issue #237 · ddnet/ddnet

Let's at least predict teles with just 1 destination. Maybe we can make it deterministic to which destination you get teleported, so that the client can predict it with multiple destination...

I think we have the tools to make it predictable now

16:08

Maybe we can use a prng per run and the seed can be transmitted to the client at start

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

I can't belive im saying this. But whats wrong with discord videos? xd

you can only upload videos <100mb and I do not want to cut my videos

ah ok then use a selfhosted web server

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

https://zillyhuhn.com/OpenTube/videos/users/chiller/tee_on_the_rocks.mp4

that looks really funny. What I fear about Ice block is, that the player would think you can slide over the floor as an ice block...

iv been playing with this ice skin since i posted it. Not sure what to say about it :D

Iza

Before the update, when you were freezed your skin turns into ninja skin with ninja sword and all that, me and other people want to have that style back as we‘ve grown very used to it and we find it alot more aesthetically pleasing

I would like to first polish up our new game design and then thinking about adding options for old animations/design (In the current state it would not be to hard to allow such options). We should try to determine what is annoying in the new design and try to improve it and polish that up. I'm not against options for old design, I personally also grown up with the old design and for example sometimes miss the old stars... But I personally would like to see DDNet getting more mod specific designes per mod, so that the mods (especially our main mod DDRace) does not look like a poor mod from Teeworlds that only can use graphics from teeworlds, but also can use graphics that makes more sense in the context of the mod world.

[quakenet] ChillerDragon

https://zillyhuhn.com/OpenTube/videos/users/chiller/tee_on_the_rocks.mp4

have you implemented the ice cube as a overlay or is this just a skin?

its just a skin

16:37

but the skin is my ice texture slapped onto default.svg

My first Idea was such a skin as an overlay, so that you still can tell the persons skin

so just add sprite rendering code and u done

16:37

but the texture is not too nice imo

16:37

ye

should also be a non perfect cube like yours so that it does not matter if the player skin peaks out

ye i assume fat skins will always look cursed

BloodWod-513

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5702 Freeze bar as in Tater client

Add a freezebar like in Tater client, how do you like the idea? !image

louis

theres already a similar skin in the database

that looks also nice, If we would create such an skin with only the ice without the tee, I could implement it and then we can test how it looks with different skins...

C0D3D3V

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5702 Freeze bar as in Tater client

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5703 Runtime error downcasts in editor

1. Open or create a map with Game, Tele, Speedup, Switch and Tune layers. 2. Select a brush in the Game layer. 3. Switch to the Tele, Speedup, Switch or Tune layer and shift click to paste the brush. This causes the following downcast runtime errors respectively: ``` src/game/editor/layer_tiles.cpp:1231:52: runtime error: downcast of address 0x616000031e80 which does not point to an object of type 'CLayerTele' 0x616000031e80: note: object is of type 'CLayerTiles' 17 00 00 10 b0 d8 4...

MikiGamer

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5704 Fix motd render in server info

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test (especially base/) or added coverage to integration test
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addres...

@deen https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5704#discussion_r939441635

Fix motd render in server info by MikiGamer · Pull Request #5704 ·...

Checklist Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options Written a unit test (especially base/) or add...

23:27

is it better to count lines number when receiving motd from server?

http://blog.cr.yp.to/20220805-nsa.html

23:28

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32360533

trulyrandom

NSA, NIST, and post-quantum crypto: my second lawsuit against the US government

m!ki

is it better to count lines number when receiving motd from server?

I think it's fine as you do it, but more efficient to do it once when server sent it. Our UI does a lot of stuff in each frame, so this approach is ok there. Otherwise you'd have to add a variable in the class and be sure to always update the line count when server motd is updated.

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shift+click+drag doesnt delete blocks in nightly editor

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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5705 shift+click+drag doesnt delete blocks in nightly editor

reported by louis

@louis I'm a bit confused, what am I supposed to press?

hold shift then click and drag over tiles

On old client I get crash

yeah, i found on old client it was like a 10% russian roulette of crashing

23:59

but on older versions i used it very frequently to quickly delete blocks

louis

yeah, i found on old client it was like a 10% russian roulette of crashing

not old client* but the current default build