DDraceNetwork - general

how does he do this?

02:53

mydstery solve

you dont

03:52

unless you shoot yourself with the laser

i am quitting ddnet

04:02

they removed ui_scale

04:03

imagine not leaving a single setting in the game because it's "too much work to fix"

04:04

same with freeze stars

04:05

marks a new era of ddnet where historical features are no longer valued

04:05

suppose all the nice ui had to come at a cost ey

lynn

i am quitting ddnet

does this mean you're changing your vtuber's look

no lol

04:10

im also not quitting ddnet i just wanted to put my frustration here

u turned into a

maybe next release we can also get rid of something pointless

04:10

like flags

04:10

04:11

or we can get rid of skins. after all they dont affect gameplay

"ya know, back in my day, we used to use ui_scale" -

who

hear me out what if we remove time checkpoints

asked

04:12

maybe we should remove dummy? seems many players dont enjoy dummy ranks

04:12

so we could remove it and then those people are happy

can we also remove every map that isnt multeasymap

04:13

because apperantly no one cares about any map than that

game would honestly be pretty cool for a while if all you could play was like one map

04:14

like back in the days or something big mapped

can we also remove the servers? they're expensive and get ddosed anyways

TRUEEE

04:14

god

04:15

im gonna start playing on LAN

04:15

im a LAN purist

lets just turn ddnet into a physics simulator

if you even have a valid URL for masterserver in your client

04:15

DO NOT INTERACT WITH ME!!!!!

he;ll lets just remove ddnet and force everyone to learn rust or some shit school time bitches !

that would be cooler

04:15

rebuild time

04:16

@Ryozuki would be happy

and then the cycle repeats

hell ya

04:16

might be more fun that way

i mean sarcasm aside i would try and help with a ddnet rebuild but

04:16

idk it just seems like a lot of work

04:17

i always wnated to make a teeworlds inspired game

same i talked about it a lot (edited)

ok hear me out uhh

04:18

teeworlds 2d mmo pvp pve custom player housing game (edited)

will there be lootcrates /j

04:20

also man im already thinking of ideas for housing stuff

04:21

man if we rebuild ddnet would we add slopes or not

hmm

04:22

it wouldnt be a rebuild of ddnet

04:22

i just like the look of tees

Voxel

man if we rebuild ddnet would we add slopes or not

rebuild of ddnet could add in any idea of block

great now i have another super big idea that i wont even touch up on

04:24

>:(

i have an obsession with mmos with customizability and housing and whatnot even though i haven't found many i enjoy

hedgewars better

04:27

it's so weird that i have never heard hedgewars mentioned here

04:27

movement based race mode derived from pvp vanilla game

04:28

like

04:28

it's the same concept

louis

i have an obsession with mmos with customizability and housing and whatnot even though i haven't found many i enjoy

same i cant stay away from a good mmo. thankful not many exist (edited)

louis

teeworlds 2d mmo pvp pve custom player housing game (edited)

this would be so sick but all mmo mods ive seen are bad

04:28

or at least limited

04:29

i need to learn how the .map format is written to

mmo would not be tied to ddnet client

04:37

cus not enough customizability

04:38

within ddnet client

04:38

i meant if i ever made a game id probably recycle tw characters cause i like the look of a tee

ya tee is good

Tee is nice true

i have an idea for no-move reverse hook race map

05:12

very weird

05:13

actually it might work better as a solo

why do i always want to do everything at like 1:40 am

same

lynn

imagine not leaving a single setting in the game because it's "too much work to fix"

bad take

care to explain

the old features are bad and people have stockholm syndrome. Best to just keep up progress in making the game better

what are the old features that are bad

06:15

ui_scale was not bad

06:15

it was quite usable at 105

06:15

with some issues

06:16

i would not apply "stockholm syndrome" to something so passive as a non-default setting

I can would and did

i am not sure how ui_scale is holding anyone captive but if you can complete the analogy feel free

stars is the main point i was replying to

what's bad about it?

06:18

i am not advocating for them in place of the freeze bar

06:18

but both

My goal would be for this game to have to most mass appeal to attract and retain players

06:18

right now it isn't there imo

06:18

but people seek to hold back progress at all costs

06:18

stars make no intuitive sense whatsoever

you can achieve these goals without removing old features

06:19

keeping freeze stars in the game does not "hold back progress"

funman

stars make no intuitive sense whatsoever

one sec

06:19

@Skeith

06:19

please explain

lerath was speaking on how when you have these old features you must maintain them

Stars don't follow the tee, that's the only appeal imo

dont see why thats appealing at all

Less distracting

we dont have settings to make it something else like a clock

06:20

so why stars

some people prefer it from what i saw

because they existed before

06:20

dumb argument imo

06:20

bar is better

lynn

some people prefer it from what i saw

some people are free to be wrong

"dumb argument" because you prefer something new and not something old that could have been kept in the game as a setting

But I think the freezebar is an improvement when it's made transparent

funman

some people are free to be wrong

it's a matter of preference as you just demonstrated

Stars are way better to time stuff and imo way more accurate atleast now than freezebar is just on the way and u can’t time shit

just because something is subjective doesn't mean it cant be better

oh boy

06:22

you would LOVE to hold that position arguing for or against antiping now wouldn't you

paradise

Stars are way better to time stuff and imo way more accurate atleast now than freezebar is just on the way and u can’t time shit

i do get this but you could just have increments on freeze bar

do you see the problem?

no

don't decide if something is better or not. if it existed before let the players decide

no

06:23

better for new players by far

we already do this with antiping

antiping is better by far

funman

better for new players by far

oh? okay so i guess we should force antiping with your argument

yes

ok then what about the people that antiping wont work on?

yeah you clearly do not value user choice in ddnet client (edited)

I hate antiping greenthing

lynn

yeah you clearly do not value user choice in ddnet client (edited)

i dont

Why don't you guys calmly talk to the devs about this and possibly have a poll made rather than arguing

ddnet client is regarded well for being user-focused

funman

i do get this but you could just have increments on freeze bar

Imo freezebar won’t have this type of accuracy, atleast personally i don’t like it but maybe i’m used to stars so could be the reason but its by ticks so u can time 2s freezes for example kinda easy

we are taking great strides to take this away

paradise

Imo freezebar won’t have this type of accuracy, atleast personally i don’t like it but maybe i’m used to stars so could be the reason but its by ticks so u can time 2s freezes for example kinda easy

i dont get why it would be worse if you got used to it

Jeremy

Why don't you guys calmly talk to the devs about this and possibly have a poll made rather than arguing

people talked to the devs pre-release, why would we not continue to talk about it

regardless of if its better or not, there is a preference

people will complain when it happens but will end up preferring it

I prefer freeze bar but I do agree either one should be optional

i hate how this "devs know best" attitude is catching on with actual players

lynn

i hate how this "devs know best" attitude is catching on with actual players

better than gridlock

the point of teeworlds is to be community-run

06:26

how is gridlock leaving stars in the game?!?!?!

06:26

none of your argument is cohesive to me

06:26

it's not holding anyone back

funman

i dont get why it would be worse if you got used to it

It’s not worse but trust me there’s even speedruns made with using stars to get 2s freezes with freezebar that won’t be happening

to leave stars in the game

Lynn if that's the case why done you just take over and develop the game yourself

wow great idea! i guess i could ask you to do the same thing! oh you're too lazy to do it? you should be sorry for even bringing it up

paradise

It’s not worse but trust me there’s even speedruns made with using stars to get 2s freezes with freezebar that won’t be happening

what? you get less freeze time with stars?

rinse and repeat

06:27

this is how ddnet devs keep users down whenever something is less convenient (edited)

this is their client they should make the changes they think are best and it will probably help the game a lot

"this is their client"

06:27

we're doomed

lynn

wow great idea! i guess i could ask you to do the same thing! oh you're too lazy to do it? you should be sorry for even bringing it up

Well I'm not the one complaining about how the devs do they're job

ddnet is doomed to be anti-libre

06:28

users embracing a proprietary model

Jeremy

Well I'm not the one complaining about how the devs do they're job

im technically a dev xd

lynn

users embracing a proprietary model

those are sucessful games

omg you guys are the worst

06:29

you dont care about the most important aspect of ddnet

06:29

being user-run user-focused

I think the player base should have a say with what happens but I also think the devs already have enough to deal with

funman

what? you get less freeze time with stars?

no but with stars u can actually time to get 2s freezes on somespots with freezebar not accurate at all

i dont think its the most important i think it holds it back tbh

paradise

no but with stars u can actually time to get 2s freezes on somespots with freezebar not accurate at all

too pro for me

Jeremy

I think the player base should have a say with what happens but I also think the devs already have enough to deal with

yea im sure it was a real bitch to leave stars in the game without scanning through the code and ripping it out themselves and then re-testing it and making sure there are no residual issues as a result of the removal mhm!

06:31

created more work for themselves JUST TO DO SOMETHING part of the community didn't want

lynn

created more work for themselves JUST TO DO SOMETHING part of the community didn't want

its not about the current community

lynn

yea im sure it was a real bitch to leave stars in the game without scanning through the code and ripping it out themselves and then re-testing it and making sure there are no residual issues as a result of the removal mhm!

Looks, maybe the devs were maliciously trying to make people mad by removing stars but i highly doubts it

ok so we have:

you dont get it

"it's their game"

06:31

"it's not about the current community"

it's the potential the game has to reach others

"respecting old features introduces gridlock"

06:32

look

06:32

if you can manage to get EU players to switch to antiping

06:32

and then force it on them

you literally sound like american reactionaries

and you get a horde in here

06:33

don't come telling me you were wrong

06:33

i already knew

I'ma dip, have fun deprecating the devs

06:33

Gn all

Honestly i hated antiping too at first but when i got used to it, way better

this community is astounding

i actually didnt realize that people dont care about the game being libre

06:34

juego libre

Headshot

juego libre

please be the savior we all need

lynn

if you can manage to get EU players to switch to antiping

antiping is better and they are just very used to playing by predicting and it would mess with their ability to play a lot but it would be beneficial for the game to have players on anti ping

make a client where stars are configurable with a setting

funman

antiping is better and they are just very used to playing by predicting and it would mess with their ability to play a lot but it would be beneficial for the game to have players on anti ping

ok but you realize that this game has always been EU dominated? EU biased? it will never happen

06:35

every admin is from europe

06:35

where no one really uses antiping

just because it wont happen doesnt mean it shouldnt

06:35

listen i'm only right 98.7% of the time

06:36

maybe 98.6

i do not know how "leave stars in the game alongside freeze bar" necessitates this entire argument

06:36

im still not seeing it

because i have a vision for this game and it doesnt align with it

you can have a vision but you're not going to have everything your way

06:37

this is a community-run game

06:37

just like i can express my views

people say its cause maintenance but like how often does it actually cause problems to have it be removed?

but they may or may not happen

im not but im voicing my opinion on how it should be

you're voicing your opinion to not have an opinion, and i find that to be really odd

this is how it would be if i was deen

you want it to all be up to devs

lynn

you're voicing your opinion to not have an opinion, and i find that to be really odd

thats already how it is he just chooses to listen

who is he

deen

06:38

allah

deen does not "run" ddnet

06:38

admins do and devs contribute changes

deen owns it no?

06:39

he has final say

06:39

?

that's not really how ddnet works

06:39

and no

06:39

you know what FOSS is, right?

no

maybe that's the issue here

06:39

this game is libre

06:39

open-source

06:39

no one owns it

06:39

it is non-proprietary

ik that

it is not up to anyone to impose their sole view on the game

06:40

the community decides

deen owns ddnet servers

(or at least it should)

and i thought the client too

(and we are very meticulously draining our right to that)

lynn

it is not up to anyone to impose their sole view on the game

i see the issue

funman

and i thought the client too

nope

funman

deen owns ddnet servers

he can cancel the payments for them but all admins can access the servers

thats why this game still has shitty mass appeal

you know who technically owns the servers?

06:41

the people who pay for them

06:41

those people donate

they donate to the owner

06:42

listen no point in arguing with me, my mind is made up

i just hope there aren't more people like you that actively seek to dilute the role of users in the community

06:42

all i can ask for

im willing to be the bad guy idc

06:43

this is the best course i see for the game

Lord have mercy

the best course for the game is to work together, but we are paralyzed by bias and blocks in the community to change

06:43

i was a moderator. i spoke to admins. i am closer to this issue than you realize

How can a 2d plat former have this much heat

jeremy if you can't handle reading a bit of debate you should probably click the x up there ↗️

Jeremy

How can a 2d plat former have this much heat

best game ever made, i dont really care for the co-op mode but it helps keep the pvp modes alive, so i appreaciate the ddnet devs a lot

06:45

they also make a good client which i use

the issue is prevalent in testing too

Jokes on you I'm on mobile

06:45

But ye I'ma go now

add_foe Jeremy

XXD

06:46

Gn

says nothing to convo

06:46

gn

damn thats all it takes

06:46

ddnet servers already have jeremy added as a foe

i have been more vocal about ddnet being the best it can be than any other person (maybe combined) in the last 1-2 years

06:46

i do not want to hear "this is the best" or "you're wrong" anymore

06:47

it's really frustrating to me and makes me feel like i threw countless hours of my own time away

just because you are vocal doesnt mean you are correct, of course the same applies to me, but as i beleive myself to be correct i will say that i am

i have more of a basis to talk about this than you do

06:48

havent seen you here much

06:48

havent seen in you in github

06:48

havent seen you talking with people in ddrace

lynn

it's really frustrating to me and makes me feel like i threw countless hours of my own time away

you have done a for this game especially usa community and appreaciate that, im glad there is someone willing to be vocal

im extremely close with the USA community

06:48

was a mod

06:48

made a map

06:48

tested maps

06:48

i know some EU players and asked their opinions sometimes

ofc you dont know me as i dont even play this mode

i know some ZAF players, mapped with Soapy

but i have 2k hours in this game and i love it

i dont know why you insist that "i beleive myself to be correct" despite all of this

and " i dont even play this mode"

06:49

you must know better than me anyway right?

06:49

because uhhh

06:49

yep you just do

i think i do

06:50

but we will see

how is that exactly

the future will vindicate me

poetic

Pretty sure this dude's just trolling you kek

go play vanilla or something

Skeith

Pretty sure this dude's just trolling you kek

probably

half trolling

Skeith

Pretty sure this dude's just trolling you kek

dont even care, there are probably a handful of newer players like this that are COMPLETELY genuine

06:51

i dont even think most steam players know it's FOSS

im not taking it seriously and im being somewhat farcical

06:51

but i do think im right and im choosing to present my opinions in this way

you have no idea how much it hurts to see something i love so much slowly reduced to something unordinary as a generic indie game

06:52

im not saying that's what's going to happen

06:52

but the feeling of that

06:52

it's very heavy

i love this game too

06:53

all i want is more players in pvp modes

you should care that the community built it

06:53

but we dont even see eye to eye on that

i dont

06:53

i told you what i want

06:53

1 thing

ddnet client has zero to do with that

06:53

stop arguing about things you do not care for

it does

doesnt

06:53

it's servers you want (edited)

its on steam and brings so many people into teeworlds

new pvp modes

06:54

o u just mean vanilla

my main mode is ictf

there's very little "ddnet" has to do with teeworlds

but it would be nice to be able to actually play anyone in vanilla

not sure why you expect any of it to cross-over

lynn

there's very little "ddnet" has to do with teeworlds

just false

06:54

like 90% of fng players come from ddnet

it brings players to the game but arguing about stuff like freeze stars quite literally has nothing to do with that

lynn

it brings players to the game but arguing about stuff like freeze stars quite literally has nothing to do with that

is the argument even about this anymore

it retains people better if the game isnt unintuitive and looks like shit

nothing deen or any admin or any dev does is gonna hurt your ability to round up players for vanilla

it seemed like you guys are jsut arguing about more than just that at this point

just the truth

06:55

the fact that the client exists is all you can ask for

06:55

a page on steam

06:55

after that it's all you

i want it to retain players better

06:55

and it would be nice if the game was marketed more as well

Broso56

it seemed like you guys are jsut arguing about more than just that at this point

trying to get out of arguing about this since they dont ever care about ddrace

not that i expect that

funman

and it would be nice if the game was marketed more as well

how so?

06:56

should we fund a budget for marketing?

06:56

we could do that

like if big streamers started playing it

06:56

would be cool

lynn

should we fund a budget for marketing?

no

we would need a budget for marketing

waste of money

funman

and it would be nice if the game was marketed more as well

so what the hell does this mean then

i just said it would be nice

it would be nice but you don't want it

like if a saudi oil prince donated money to have it happen

it's very hard to respond to anything you say because you just f4 it afterwards

i can see why funman cares about what happens to ddrace cause that seems to be where most people play teeworlds from. Most people now dont find teeworlds itself, they find ddrace and then explore other modes including vanilla modes

yea but after they load up ddnet

06:57

their choice to play vanilla has nothing to do with devs

lynn

it's very hard to respond to anything you say because you just f4 it afterwards

you arent getting what i was saying

lynn

their choice to play vanilla has nothing to do with devs

pvp tab

06:57

pleaase

oh now you have something

no novice filter

no novice filter should be a replaceemnt

06:58

instead of an outright removal

*on by default

some toggle that's highly visible in the menu

lynn

their choice to play vanilla has nothing to do with devs

i mean the longer they play ddrace the more likely they will decide to also try out other pvp modes

which in part killed pvp modes

you have a point about ddnet being ddrace-centric

06:59

do they owe vanilla to do that?

they don't

now suddenly you care about community involvement, ey?

no one plays

maybe we can care about vanilla

if it was up to poll it would die

but without you saying anything no one would care

06:59

you had to tell me that idea just now in order to consider it

07:00

that's one step

servers for ictf run without ddnet

07:00

but i would like them to help ofc

that's already something removed when people said they want to keep freeze stars in addition to the bar

07:00

it's a parallel

doesnt mean they need to and if they think its best for them to not

07:00

then they dont have to

07:00

i can still voice my opinion doesnt mean i expect change

07:00

i dont

funman

if it was up to poll it would die

nothing is up to a "poll" here. we can consider even unpopular opinions

lynn

nothing is up to a "poll" here. we can consider even unpopular opinions

consider and kick it into a ditch to die

i cant remember the last time something was considered via a poll

07:02

if you dont expect vanilla-benefitting changes then why are you still here

i see people saying things i dont agree with

07:03

maybe does nothing to speak

07:03

but at least it will be known i tried

tl;dr plz

1

nouis

louis

tl;dr plz

people hate having rights

07:05

unsurprising

well that was an interesting conversation

oh cool a living example of why users matter

07:07

tater had an idea. tater made a client with his changes. he showed them to the devs and they adopted some of them

07:07

literally everything i said in practice

nothing wrong with giving suggestions

okay then my suggestion is keep freeze stars (edited)

yes and my suggestion is that it is not necessary (edited)

great! we can stop talking now

funman

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i love this comic so much

I think ive read all of the comic strips

07:50

i loved it as a kid and it still holds up

me too

im thinking i may get a calvin and hobbes tattoo

07:51

not sure yet would be in the future anyways

lynn

it's so weird that i have never heard hedgewars mentioned here

The hedwewars dev was on ddnet irc for long back then

:o

wtf

07:54

cool

love hedgewars now

07:54

i am kristi pilled

07:54

>:3

ok

Ryozuki

The hedwewars dev was on ddnet irc for long back then

how much work do you think it would be to make freezehammer a switch tile and not announce it to chat

08:03

this would be custom server

08:03

i wanna make amogus

08:03

it also has to ignore sv_hit 0

08:03

so that you can't just prove you're innocent by hammering someone as crew

08:04

can borrow anti-zooz from fng

how would you handle text tho

08:04

like the dead speaking or when you're in game

i think that can be just honor rule

08:07

im gonna dig up freezehammer stuff

lynn

how much work do you think it would be to make freezehammer a switch tile and not announce it to chat

wdym by making it a switch tile (edited)

some unused ID

lynn

so that you can't just prove you're innocent by hammering someone as crew

is there a way to make only traitors able to use tp?

having an on/off switch for giving it to a player

08:08

similar (behavior) to a weapon/shield (edited)

and why do u need to have a tile to make someone a "traitor"

because freezehammer is f2 only

and

also how would you implement tasks?

i want unauthorized players to play it?

08:09

xD

you can just have rounds and at the start choose traitor randomly

08:09

and give it to him

08:09

yeah you can do anything with the code

i would have to always be online

dont think like players

is freezehammer at least a command that i could allow regular players to use?

08:09

ah wait that's no good

08:10

then they know who has it based on ID

just give it automatically on every round start (edited)

08:10

xd

how could i do that xd

with code???

08:10

xD

yes that's what i mean

a command is just a way to react to the user input and do "stuff"

08:10

u can ignore all and do just "stuff"

i see what you mean but mmmm i dont want to invent my own set-up routine

08:11

i would rather piggyback on switch layer

08:11

im a mapper not a coder xd

lo

08:11

piggybacking on switch layer is how u overcomplicate

doesn't seem bad

makes 0 sense

it's reusable

08:11

can be used for more than just among us if it is a tile

how would tasks work? would they be tps to other parts of the map?

well you have to be hammerable

08:12

so im not sure, havent thought much about tasks

08:12

@Soapy Sandwich did you have any idea how to do tasks in your among us idea?

Voxel

how would tasks work? would they be tps to other parts of the map?

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/995602534192394250 repost

tasks can be chat games

i think a solo part with hookthrough is fine

08:13

and the imposter can hook them back into tp and hammer

maybe when you do tasks a dummy replaces you until you finish?, but it still registers you dying if its hammeres

https://ddnet.tw/skins/index.php?search=%24skinpack%3Aamongus

08:13

sus

if a crewmate is caught doing it then, well they have to decide about that

ok

you can also disable hooking others for crew

08:14

nvm that's not a problem

Voxel

maybe when you do tasks a dummy replaces you until you finish?, but it still registers you dying if its hammeres

actually could be awesome

08:14

like you have to do ddrace parts

08:14

like do an aled or some whit

lmao

shit*

Voxel

maybe when you do tasks a dummy replaces you until you finish?, but it still registers you dying if its hammeres

this is not a bad idea but it implies some ddrace logic of parity between tees

@deen unblock me

which is probably implementable but i would rather come up with something else tbh

worstwish

@deen unblock me

cope

do u have any new beats

08:15

i finally uploaded amphetamine which was a crazy idea i had

08:15

got sick of trying to find it on clyp

08:15

https://soundcloud.com/just_lynn/amphetamine

i just wanna be loved

same

tell me what u think of that

08:16

@worstwish

im listening

weeb

stfu

08:16

imo the paulstretched ending is nicer

08:16

but the sound design in the main part is still cool

nice super mario power up sound

xD

08:17

does it actually sound like that

yes

i guess it does

https://open.spotify.com/track/7KVVCa6KZRNfzjRWR0mLKR?si=YRFzpIjDQxK1TM4AMiFSdQ

i just make crazy bullshit i gave up on trying to make normal music

here

08:17

collab with

08:17

multi platinum loser

jesus lol

08:17

this beat actually great

08:17

that rim

worstwish

here

have you heard about dariacore?

08:18

insane drums

the album

it's a project/genre (edited)

08:18

why did i say album again

its like a scene or smt

u mf

08:19

yea yea

ahahahah

on soundcloud

08:19

well you might think it's funny

08:19

but literally listen to how different it is

08:19

https://soundcloud.com/c0ncernn/joke

the guy who made leroy has some rly good serious music too

im laughing at “u mf”

OH lol

frailtys so nice

ya

08:19

dltzk soundcloud poster child fr (edited)

they're now Jane Remover

08:20

xd

08:20

yea i think they're trying to lose the "zeke" implied by "dltzk"

08:20

just a guess tho

maybe

my favorite S3 is still E11

08:20

so insane

08:21

was it also your favorite?

second to last?

#off-topic

1

@deen when r u unblocking me

lynn

i am not sure how ui_scale is holding anyone captive but if you can complete the analogy feel free

Have you tried using it? Before we removed it we asked for your opinion but got no reply. From what I can tell it has been totally broken for 7 years at least and would require fixes all over the UI code. Since no one complained in those 7 years, we assumed no one used it

08:24

There are cut-off texts, overlapping UI fields, inconsitent spacing etc (edited)

I think I had something drafted but never sent it

08:25

I was still vocal regardless

08:25

well I prefer the browser server list items taller

08:25

friends taller

08:25

the graphics menu remains the same size regardless of ui_scale

08:25

for resolution options

08:26

i also found that the skins list would clip into the button components below on anything 105 or above

If you want to fix it up and maintain it you are welcome and we'd accept a PR

call vote is easier to use

08:26

just because something is not currently working doesn't mean i didn't still use it

08:27

i was actively using 105% and it was removed for what? cleanliness? it was already not maintained but left in the client

08:27

that is my confusion (edited)

well it just came to the point where there wasnt really any point of having it in their eyes i think

that doesnt make sense imo

08:27

same with removing servers if they have no players

08:27

we can agree to disagree though. that's just how it goes tonight it seems lol

i mean ya i see wym

it was useful

08:27

it could be used

08:28

now it cannot

08:28

now that it's removed

08:28

no one can use it

08:28

that's the way i see it

Because it was broken. People would try it out and wonder why their entire UI is now broken, fields are unreachable etc

I acknowledge i am not great at C++

08:28

i dont know that i could do something as complicated as fixing UI layout (edited)

deen

Because it was broken. People would try it out and wonder why their entire UI is now broken, fields are unreachable etc

how often did you actually receive reports like this?

08:29

cant you just remove the UI for the setting and leave it as an F1 setting? lol

08:29

spare me pls

deen

Because it was broken. People would try it out and wonder why their entire UI is now broken, fields are unreachable etc

we could also argue this for antiping

08:29

im disinterested in this sort of argument i think

lynn

we could also argue this for antiping

how so?

people try antiping

how would you fix antiping tho

their game is "lagging"

08:30

people experience ping

08:30

they feel like the game is badly written

08:30

either way

08:30

it's a problem

ok but antiping is kinda crucial when it comes to timing

no doubt there is more conversation about ping/antiping

i mean it could be an actual bug/broken for some but not consistently, the rest is just people not being used to it

Broso56

i mean it could be an actual bug/broken for some but not consistently, the rest is just people not being used to it

and they dont

08:30

just like ui_scale

08:31

in EU at least

it sounds like ui_scale is consistently broken

this is like the smallest thing ever to me and i thought i could hold onto it lol

08:31

it's not consistently broken

08:31

it is broken in SOME areas

08:31

i just listed one

okay well then i stand corrected

it highlights an existing problem with the client anyway

08:31

the layout is not flexible

yea

dunno why this was not a valuable working point for devs in the first place but i understand it as separate

08:32

we would benefit from this sort of thing anyway with uncommon resolutions/aspect ratios

08:32

i just think it's funny that

08:32

i pointed out how it was broken

08:32

and now it's removed

08:33

xD

i guess they just didnt want to bother fixing it or something, idk

08:33

how many people actually use ui_scale

@deen if i could even work on this sort of thing i would need scope on what things were broken. i only experienced an issue with the skins list from what i remember

couldn't you just use an older client?

but seeing that i cant test without getting an older release im hoping there's just logs of this

08:34

well im on steam release

08:34

murican moment

just download web version

08:34

if you want to test

are they all kept in releases

i believe you can download older versions

08:34

same thing with downloading ddnet on mobile

o ic

i think you could download 1 or 2 old releases that were made compatible with mobile

oh cool it's just source code

08:35

compiling on windows sucks hhhh

08:35

too lazy

08:35

i will look for all refs of ui_scale here

?

o wait

08:35

the WEB

yeah

i thought github

xDD

08:36

ya i have no idea how it is on git

ya it has it oops

i was gonna say i dont think ive ever compiled anything for ddnet before

had no idea there was multiple releases there all this time

iTS FINISHED

alright ill test again

wanna hak fokkonhaut?

@Ham5terzilla (Макс)

09:33

fun fact, crocodiles can live more than a year without eating, some sources say 2 or even 3 years

09:33

uhhh

10:00

what the hell just happened LOL

10:00

all of the channels moved around a lot

The bot is having seizures

got it, okay

teams should not be forced to do solos

10:03

or only once

2

What do you mean by solos?

10:03

Also one channel is enough, no need to post in two

noob-filters

2

Steinchen

omg its cordax :OOO

omg, its inner peace! :OOO

11:52

"why u fake?" "im boost him"

Steinchen

omg, its inner peace! :OOO

when finish upndown2

never, too hard.

SalmonZIk

when finish upndown2

When r10 upndown2? never.

Steinchen

When r10 upndown2? never.

Will you give me $1 if I do it today?

yes

SalmonZIk

Will you give me $1 if I do it today?

r1 $50

12:05

only today

why no servers?

Steinchen

r1 $50

r1 super-lucky skip

12:05

like 1 from 1000 attemps

SalmonZIk

r1 super-lucky skip

show me the skip and i'll do it for you!

y

@Steinchen ez

nice!

How to save in team, can I start with the same save all the time?

You use /save [password]

14:42

Then /load [password]

14:42

@Deleted User

14:42

But you loose that save once you use it

Steinchen

nice!

where my $ troll

de

SalmonZIk

where my $ troll

CRAP

@Chairn made it YEP

1

gg

Meekrioz

@Chairn made it YEP

Who

Stepfunn

Who

who tf is talking to you, go back to strimming

16:01

map Medium with dummy

16:01

wow, so aggressive

he deserves it

i go back to my sweet last episode of the boys

16:01

much more calm and apeasing

Meekrioz

who tf is talking to you, go back to strimming

Malding OMEGALUL

have fun

Stepfunn

Malding OMEGALUL

Chairn

i go back to my sweet last episode of the boys

Your the man

16:02

The boys slays

16:13

ez Chinatown 69 and 1

clear sign, u need a chinese wife

16:13

from the netherlands

with 1,0 average grade

so all chinese ppl

was about to say that

16:14

but didnt know if i wanted to troll

@murpi can you come to the multyeas map in tr server no one racing but a lot guy is in the race area

1

the "password" at the bottom is dummy drag race network, right?

*Samurai*

@murpi can you come to the multyeas map in tr server no one racing but a lot guy is in the race area

#reports

Meekrioz

#reports

ok

16:27

he is innow

please someone from mods or admins delete that screenshot of steinchen for his own safety

which screenshot

xD

already saved it

never do that

Steinchen

the "password" at the bottom is dummy drag race network, right?

hey, what have I done wrong?

wrong answer

whats the answer?

never made an account there but i assume its DDraceNetwork or DDrace Network

oh yeah its ddracenetwork, thanks!

16:32

popcorn lied to me </3

never listen to @PopCorn181 couse he 100% evil

He just got this new rank on acq which is like 0,5s faster

16:32

and it didnt update OMEGALUL

Stepfunn

The boys slays

well, that last episode was disappointing

Chairn

well, that last episode was disappointing

wtf dont say that

why not?

Spoilers

Hey, what is bind for enable or disable background on some map ?

AlsoDie

Hey, what is bind for enable or disable background on some map ?

bind pagedown "toggle cl_show_quads 0 1"

Chairn

well, that last episode was disappointing

i feel like queen maeve shoudl have died (edited)

20:55

but then even kimiko survived so

‍♂️

Free server with 100 People for random dude

Anybody want to comment on it? https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?p=70656#p70656

why cant i change my lan servers pw?

21:39

i didnt have problem with it before update

what did you try? what did you expect to happen? what happens instead?

heinrich5991

what did you try? what did you expect to happen? what happens instead?

the admins pw was empty

21:44

wrote 1 in there

21:44

it still generates a random pw

21:44

restarted the game and the server aswell

this is password to join server, not rcon

?

or last line need to be uncommented

21:45

remove #

ah thanks

21:58

ddos at multieasy map ger2

21:58

ddos for all players

who wanna play

22:01

but im so not skilled

Cellegen

Anybody want to comment on it? https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?p=70656#p70656

What was the point of this post?

22:01

Ddos

22:06

ddddddoooooossssss

joined a random chinese server, saw corodax iBarano and PainKnight

23:24

he for some reason changed to coradax

23:25

budget pros

lmfao PainKnight

Cmon man they are fans

@PSYCHO

Pinkfatboy

23:48

spur

joined a random chinese server, saw corodax iBarano and PainKnight

china moment