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chillerdragon BOT 2022-07-05 05:57:33Z
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Something seems bugged with the image xD
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Chairn 2022-07-05 06:00:48Z
what the hell ?
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 07:51:54Z
Just come back to Discord
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 08:06:28Z
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[ddnet-web:pr-16.2] 1 new commit
fc035bf Version 16.2 - def-
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 08:28:26Z
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heinrich5991
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5554 Fix out of bounds read in checksum stuff

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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--undef...
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5416 Version 16.2
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 08:54:41Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
e026bce Fix out of bounds read in checksum stuff - heinrich5991 cbd0eaf Merge #5554 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5554 Fix out of bounds read in checksum stuff
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 09:12:06Z
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[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit
cc5f3e7 Add LLVM upgrade hint - def-
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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #200 Version 16.2
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[ddnet-web:master] 2 new commits
fc035bf Version 16.2 - def- fb6e02c Merge pull request #200 from ddnet/pr-16.2 - def-
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Chairn 2022-07-05 09:20:08Z
Soon ddnet will be major, version 18 getting closer and closer
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deen 2022-07-05 09:32:06Z
😄
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Chairn 2022-07-05 09:33:23Z
we will all go to germany because they have good beers, all wearing ddnet shirt and drink to long live ddnet
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For version 21, usa people will also go for a drink with ddnet shirt 🙂
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 10:05:49Z
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Kruimeldief
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5555 16.2 Client black screen
I updated my DDNet client from 16.1 to 16.2 using the in-game update button and now the game won't start anymore. After the update (downloading new files), the client restarted itself and gave a black (full)screen. When clicking, the 'DDNet.exe is not responding' Windows pop-up appears after which I need to close the program. When restarting DDNet, the same black screen appears.
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 10:28:11Z
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 11:27:06Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5556 Update Korean translations by CHaBek

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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 11:35:56Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5549 Try to use openssl EVP (partially fixes #5548)
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Iza 2022-07-05 11:40:30Z
you finally fixed my skin nice happy
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 11:59:45Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
ebd8569 Update Korean translations by CHaBek - cwh7435 044dc81 Merge #5556 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5556 Update Korean translations by CHaBek
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 12:43:04Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
df7c6bb jap2 -> jap - def-
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 12:52:08Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
00a27d6 Reduces cost for JAP - def-
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 12:54:30Z
Do we really have cl_download_community_skins and cl_skin_community_download_url while we just have cl_download_skins and cl_skin_download_url? It does exactly the same, just downloads a skin from another url? That was the reason I requested the cl_skin_download_url variable back then, so that people can simply change the url. So much to the topic not to add useless configs
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and UI options even xd
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 12:57:48Z
yes, also considered that (cl_skin_community_download_url)
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 12:58:05Z
I slowly lose all hope
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 12:58:25Z
@fokkonaut you should know how annoying maintaining lots of options is, you're also maintaining a client AFAIK
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 12:58:32Z
we could have just set the default url to skins.tw
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murpi 2022-07-05 12:58:47Z
the german translation for both settings are also not consistent btw 👀 fyi
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 12:58:48Z
you could probably make a PR if you want
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heinrich5991
@fokkonaut you should know how annoying maintaining lots of options is, you're also maintaining a client AFAIK
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 12:58:53Z
I dont really maintain it, I made it so 0.7 players can get the feel of the most important ddnet features for me
12:59
i polished it a bit, but not actively maintaining
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and on my serverside mod, i have a lot of options, but also a lot of features. if done wisely and correctly, those are not an issue. But this seems unusual xD
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heinrich5991
you could probably make a PR if you want
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 12:59:59Z
it should have not gotten merged. i even said smth about this in the pr iirc
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#5449 got closed, when did this feature get in?
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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5397
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@deen https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5397#discussion_r895163135 you troll xD say
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u say not adding more config vars too, why does everyone say that and then end up doing it anyways secretly after 1 day merge already
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without any feedback (guess cuz its a small pr)
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:03:48Z
that config option seems easy enough to remove
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you can probably even make a PR
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unlike the config option you want to introduce
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that sounds like it can only be removed with a lot of backlash
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Learath2 2022-07-05 13:04:19Z
fwiw, I wasn't the biggest fan of that either, just wasn't around to voice my concern
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heinrich5991
that config option seems easy enough to remove
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:04:22Z
why add it in the first place
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:04:36Z
idk, I'd also be in favor of your approach
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Learath2
fwiw, I wasn't the biggest fan of that either, just wasn't around to voice my concern
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:04:40Z
can we put down the fight now
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Learath2 2022-07-05 13:04:40Z
When I initially proposed the community option I just wanted to append a ?community at the end
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:04:58Z
yet we're more than one maintainer and we're okay with differing opinions
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sometimes code that is non-optimal in some maintainer's eyes gets merged
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fokkonaut
can we put down the fight now
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:05:19Z
ok nvm then
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:05:21Z
but that's okay, we can improve it
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fokkonaut
can we put down the fight now
Learath2 2022-07-05 13:05:52Z
Sure, not like I'm being hostile
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:06:15Z
Dont search the issue on my side, please
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Learath2 2022-07-05 13:06:25Z
We can disagree about something but agree on other things, it's normal
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:07:11Z
Yea, but can we also agree on that we both went a bit out of hand, and that we can still work together, otherwise I'd like to stop working on DDNet completely, it was really not nice of you today.
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:09:49Z
please don't do such ultimatums
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:10:11Z
I dont feel comfortable being bullied like that
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or like, being threated
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wait
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wrong word
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treated
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:11:07Z
I scrolled up in #general, and it didn't look like you were entirely innocent either
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:11:15Z
What did I just say?
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heinrich5991
I scrolled up in #general, and it didn't look like you were entirely innocent either
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:11:42Z
And did you also see my tries to fix the situation, and my apology?
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murpi 2022-07-05 13:13:04Z
I didn't
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:13:04Z
you said that both did bad things and want Learath2 to acknowledge that
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Learath2 2022-07-05 13:14:03Z
Ok, I'll just let it go. I was indeed not being very nice, I'll try to keep a more professional conduct in the future
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:14:06Z
Yes. Because I did already by saying we both did bad things, and because I at least tried to solve the situation 4 or 5 times. While learath just put oil in the fire with his toxicity at that moment. He was really mad, which is okay, but he gotta stand to it
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Learath2
Ok, I'll just let it go. I was indeed not being very nice, I'll try to keep a more professional conduct in the future
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:14:16Z
Thank you
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Me too
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:15:28Z
you should probably get some friend to look at the conversation and tell you what they think about the messages (edited)
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:18:21Z
Well, in the end I just tried to be there for the community, or at least a part of it. Because I know that it was clear before the release already, that there wont be such an option or something. And I also already before the release knew that people dislike, and more people are gonna dislike it when it drops. All in all, I tried to get learath to understand exactly that, and that its important for many players and that we also have to take a look at the feeling of things, and how they affect the gameplay and how they help or distract
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:18:23Z
its true you fokkonaut went a bit overboard, but i can also see how some learath answers may make you yell, but that is no excuse i guess
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:18:58Z
nothing is an excuse, as learath "excused" he is just a human, yes, we are all, and everyone makes mistakes. Correct is it tho, to come back together
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which he clearly did not want
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Voxel 2022-07-05 13:19:09Z
learath gave off brutally honest vibes imo (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:19:26Z
idk what that means
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fokkonaut
which he clearly did not want
heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:19:35Z
first rule of sincere conversation: do not psychoanalyse your partner
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:19:39Z
i just saw learath being overly sarcastic and fokkonaut getting mad xd
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atleast that was the feeling i got
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:19:51Z
if you do, it only goes downhill from there
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heinrich5991
first rule of sincere conversation: do not psychoanalyse your partner
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:20:01Z
I dont let him accuse me for things tho. Thats exatcly what he did
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:20:22Z
you said "he clearly doesn't want to come back together"
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Ryozuki
atleast that was the feeling i got
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:20:25Z
U acted way different in the channel, and agreed that learath was really mad, not just sarcastic
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:20:34Z
that's an interpretation of you
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heinrich5991
you said "he clearly doesn't want to come back together"
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:20:34Z
Because that is, what it was
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:20:39Z
i never agreed to anything
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:20:43Z
you cannot say that, no
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this is a place where your discussion style is bad, IMO @fokkonaut
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:21:00Z
might be
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But why do I have to understand other people only, when nobody tries to understand me?
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Thing is
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I can understand others
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but i dislike not being understood on the other side
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:21:37Z
you again say that nobody tries to understand you
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:21:40Z
And then both sides are kinda against each other
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:21:40Z
which is probably not true
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heinrich5991
you again say that nobody tries to understand you
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:21:52Z
Then again different: They dont show it.
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And thats a problem.
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:22:38Z
okay, then say that
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:22:40Z
It might be that I cant perfectly express myself in a hectic conversation in english
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Or my goal
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idk
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or that you take that too serious, and I took learath too serious. Thats all no problem, but getting shot in the face like that is not nice
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And thats my final statement, lets just stop on this. I dont think it can go anywhere else really. Important is that we can look forward, which I personally am always a fan of
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murpi 2022-07-05 13:24:44Z
you offered learath2 money to make it more appearling to him to get the thing done, that's not expressing yourself, that's just being an ass
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that was hella rude imo
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:25:20Z
and again "you take it too serious"
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murpi
you offered learath2 money to make it more appearling to him to get the thing done, that's not expressing yourself, that's just being an ass
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:25:28Z
No, he said he will do it now because (toxicity) mr. boss fokkonaut (or quite similar) said so. That went on, until I said dude, if you feel better I can give you money for that
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:25:43Z
please stop predicting the intentions or the psychology of your conversation partners
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heinrich5991
please stop predicting the intentions or the psychology of your conversation partners
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:25:59Z
?
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:26:11Z
it leads to worse discussions IMO
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murpi
you offered learath2 money to make it more appearling to him to get the thing done, that's not expressing yourself, that's just being an ass
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:26:12Z
Thats simply false.
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:26:12Z
@heinrich5991 do you know if making calls ffi calls e.g from c++ to rust or rust to c++ has inherent perfomance deficit than purely native code?
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murpi
you offered learath2 money to make it more appearling to him to get the thing done, that's not expressing yourself, that's just being an ass
fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:26:28Z
you as an admin should take a closer look. Sad.
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:26:43Z
I'll timeout fokkonaut for now
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"Sad."
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murpi 2022-07-05 13:27:07Z
saddo admin, staff bias
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:27:10Z
its true u went overboard there
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offering money
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and u know im always against admins
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:27:30Z
@Ryozuki no inherent performance deficit (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:27:44Z
oh nice
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:27:49Z
but practical ones
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sometimes, cross-language LTO isn't enabled
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:27:59Z
so for example, if we made a c++ interface to use rust modern hashmap, would we get the perf benefits?
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:28:32Z
well, generics don't work across FFI
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:28:37Z
oh true
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rip
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:29:04Z
@Skeith that was uncalled for
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Skeith 2022-07-05 13:29:12Z
Oops
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greenthing
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:29:39Z
i was looking at #5292
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https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5292
Use of Rust inside DDNet client/server · Issue #5292 · ddnet/ddnet
While implementing past pull requests like #5064 I've been thinking about implementing them using Rust instead of C++. Rust is a language targeting a similar audience as C++. It tries to co...
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maybe we should try some small thing
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to get the feeling
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and decide
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murpi 2022-07-05 13:31:55Z
sorry, accidentally deleted one of your messages there
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:32:22Z
from who?
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deen 2022-07-05 13:32:26Z
@murpi trying to stir something up 😄
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murpi 2022-07-05 13:32:31Z
yours :D
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:32:38Z
hmm idk which xd
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murpi 2022-07-05 13:32:45Z
I just enabled the github cog again for this channel
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:34:33Z
@deen why did u close the openssl evp issue?
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is not enabling the reuse of the ctx good enough?
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imho we should not use deprecated stuff, specially with openssl and security related things
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and i rly dont feel good about our (own) implementation of the sha thing
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as they say, never do crypto urself
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or something like that
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Voxel 2022-07-05 13:35:59Z
ddnet client that mines crypto santatrollet
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:36:07Z
if u see the related issue the struct was made opaque for a reason
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deen 2022-07-05 13:36:17Z
Taking a hash is not that complicated, we are not rolling our own SSL or anything
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:36:24Z
ah xd
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 13:37:16Z
@Skeith very mature
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murpi 2022-07-05 13:37:38Z
@c0d3d3v ALOT of people from the chn community really like the new HUD ;)
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Skeith 2022-07-05 13:39:27Z
The hud's really nice, ya
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 13:40:41Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5557 No separate tee skin prefix for dummy
When choosing a tee skin prefix (none, kitty, santa), it's applied to the main tee as well as the dummy tee regardless of your dummy setting checkbox selection. And something else: an insignificant cosmetic bug is that the tee skin changes aren't applied when closing the menu in some cases. When this happens, you need to re-open the tee skin settings, change something (e.g. toggle checkbox twice) and close the menu. This happens most often when changing the tee skin settings of the...
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:40:50Z
honestly @c0d3d3v is doing a lot of work, and he deserves praise, even if i dont like the freezebar xD
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oof, so many notifications, sometimes i cleanup and miss where i am mentioned
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(github)
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Feel free to ping me here if smth urgent needs to be done, i didnt notice the domain migration issue till now xD
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Ryozuki
if u see the related issue the struct was made opaque for a reason
heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:50:15Z
the only reason was forward compatibility of the library (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:51:29Z
yeah
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Ryozuki
and i rly dont feel good about our (own) implementation of the sha thing
heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:51:51Z
hm, I don't really see much that can go wrong with implementing a known hash function yourself
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perhaps timings?
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:52:20Z
idk either, i always never rly tried to do my own hash impls
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:52:37Z
I'd guess the 'don't roll your own crypto' refers mostly to building crypto systems out of primitives?
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or designing your own primitives?
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 13:53:15Z
i always thought about it in the whole grand scheme, so i include primitives too xD
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i think good candidates to try rust are either a client component or a server entity, what do u think?
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:57:40Z
something low-level and not much connected would be better suited IMO
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deen 2022-07-05 13:57:43Z
I don't know how hard it will be for me to cross-compile Rust
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 13:58:10Z
I'd also try to figure that out before merging stuff like that
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theoretically™, rust isn't that bad
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deen
I don't know how hard it will be for me to cross-compile Rust
Ryozuki 2022-07-05 14:02:58Z
thats why i wanna try something small to see how it feels
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yeah maybe something more low level
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 14:11:32Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5557 No separate tee skin prefix for dummy
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fokkonaut
without any feedback (guess cuz its a small pr)
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 14:17:21Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/3569 u are simply wrong
add "community skins" download option · Issue #3569 · ddnet/ddnet
people complain about not having old funny skins like "tank" due to it not fitting teeworld's artstyle adding these types of skins back into the database isn't the...
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it was discussed multiple times, in github & in discord
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 14:18:10Z
hey
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 14:18:10Z
u want to add skints.tw
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 14:18:32Z
@Jupstar ✪ that was insensitive as we were just trying to calm down
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@fokkonaut stop that
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my touchpad isn't working correctly
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 14:22:08Z
xd
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 14:25:29Z
oof touchpad
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 14:27:58Z
for legendary #5555 startup + VPN problems STUN? or was it already added last version?
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DDNet BOT 2022-07-05 14:27:59Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5555
16.2 Client black screen when connected to VPN · Issue #5555 · ddne...
I updated my DDNet client from 16.1 to 16.2 using the in-game update button and now the game won't start anymore. After the update (downloading new files), the client restarted itself and g...
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 14:28:31Z
these issues are always so weird xd
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 14:29:21Z
I'm also surprised by that one ^^
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 14:31:23Z
yeah
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weird stuff
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 14:32:53Z
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Learath2
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5558 Allow changing opacity of freeze bars
A couple players mentioned a lower opacity freeze bar is better for them. This allows that without introducing an extra option but rather repurposing the old ones. It adds a magic coefficient of .75f. Which I thought looks reasonable, but if really wanted we could make cl_freezebar_inside_freeze an opacity setting too so people can independently set their in-freeze alpha too.

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DDNet
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5555
Learath2 2022-07-05 14:34:11Z
this one is absolutely bizarre
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Learath2 2022-07-05 14:42:20Z
I accidentally nuked my firefox profile 😦
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 14:42:52Z
ouch
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backup?
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Learath2 2022-07-05 14:44:28Z
don't have one
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 14:45:47Z
oh rip
14:45
no sync?
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Learath2 2022-07-05 14:47:18Z
no sync indeed, I really should have been more careful
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I'll just need to reinstall all my extensions and log in everywhere
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 14:48:06Z
good time to switch to webkit 😉
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 14:49:51Z
webkit tries to cripple adblockers
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Learath2 2022-07-05 14:49:51Z
I have the weirdest of bugs, if I click a link inside a chromium app it won't open in firefox, it'll say there is a running firefox instance that isn't responding
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 14:49:56Z
better don't switch there 😉
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Learath2 2022-07-05 14:50:05Z
but firefox instance that is running is working just fine
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Learath2
I'll just need to reinstall all my extensions and log in everywhere
Ryozuki 2022-07-05 14:53:11Z
ublock + containers
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essential
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i also like languagetools to not write like a pepeg
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@c0d3d3v i saw u linked a article about rust for cpp devs, but it misses a lot of things, maybe this is better https://github.com/nrc/r4cppp
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(https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5292#issuecomment-1148997561)
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Learath2 2022-07-05 14:57:43Z
This is absolutely insane, if I do xdg-open https://ddnet.tw it works just fine, if I click a link in discord, that's exactly what chromium does but it doesn't work
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c0d3d3v 2022-07-05 14:58:52Z
What do you think, I changed the text in the hook collsion line tab... @cheeser0613 suggested to change one of the texts, see https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/990564093926719528/993891989324042331/unknown.png does someone with good english agree? Then I can change it.
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 14:59:40Z
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details like this
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@c0d3d3v i saw u linked a article about rust for cpp devs, but it misses a lot of things, maybe this is better https://github.com/nrc/r4cppp
c0d3d3v 2022-07-05 14:59:47Z
thanks ... I will look into it
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@c0d3d3v i saw u linked a article about rust for cpp devs, but it misses a lot of things, maybe this is better https://github.com/nrc/r4cppp
c0d3d3v 2022-07-05 15:02:51Z
do you have mimeo installed?
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ups wrong ping
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c0d3d3v
What do you think, I changed the text in the hook collsion line tab... @cheeser0613 suggested to change one of the texts, see https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/990564093926719528/993891989324042331/unknown.png does someone with good english agree? Then I can change it.
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 15:04:19Z
aiming sounds wrong to me
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its only about the hook, not about where you aim
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Learath2
This is absolutely insane, if I do xdg-open https://ddnet.tw it works just fine, if I click a link in discord, that's exactly what chromium does but it doesn't work
c0d3d3v 2022-07-05 15:05:52Z
do you have mimeo installed? My default openers are also sometimes crazy... I tried to use mimeo instead of xdg-open that helped for some time but is also not consistent. Sometimes my /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache cache is just filled with wrong entires xD then I delete the file and everything works again. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Default_applications
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Ryozuki
thats why i wanna try something small to see how it feels
deen 2022-07-05 15:06:09Z
make a dummy change which just adds some useless function and tell me how to build it 😄
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 15:08:30Z
saving this for later https://github.com/corrosion-rs/corrosion
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Learath2 2022-07-05 15:15:19Z
Does anyone know a way I could run a command with a specified environment?
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 15:17:52Z
what do u mean with specified environment?
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env vars?=
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Learath2
Does anyone know a way I could run a command with a specified environment?
c0d3d3v 2022-07-05 15:18:45Z
env variables? Just put them before the command
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Learath2
Does anyone know a way I could run a command with a specified environment?
deen 2022-07-05 15:19:25Z
source myenvfile && ./mycommand?
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Learath2 2022-07-05 15:19:55Z
Env vars yeah. I need to clean the environment so nothing remains of the old one, read the new env file and run the command essentially
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deen 2022-07-05 15:20:16Z
bash -c "source myenvfile && ./mycommand"
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env -i bash --noprofile --norc -c "source myenvfile && ./mycommand" but that's just guessing
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 15:23:04Z
bash pro
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maybe ask chiller
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he is the wizard
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deen 2022-07-05 15:25:47Z
Seems to work: bash-5.1$ echo $FOO bash-5.1$ cat myenvfile export FOO=bar bash-5.1$ cat mycommand #!/bin/bash echo $FOO env bash-5.1$ env -i bash --noprofile --norc -c "source myenvfile && ./mycommand" bar FOO=bar PWD=/Users/deen SHLVL=2 _=/usr/bin/env bash-5.1$ echo $FOO
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 15:28:34Z
maybe I should make a fake pull request with what I built for rust-ddnet interaction
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Learath2 2022-07-05 15:30:29Z
Nice, thanks @deen that worked perfectly
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bizarre, for whatever reason chromium apps launch xdg-open with DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=disabled:
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 15:39:53Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5559 Screen flickering weirdly since 16.2
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2335377/177365521-06c76124-b6b6-4cc9-8a95-700b2cd2d2a2.mp4 Reported by LHP on Discord https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/2335377/177365626-85265f8e-8d79-4945-b84a-f8dfc746eff5.mp4 As well as Dezarion on Discord with the same
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 15:56:15Z
@Learath2 if you find a fix, tell me
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I also have that problem
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I also have that problem
Learath2 2022-07-05 15:57:09Z
you can't click links in chromium apps too?
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 15:57:13Z
y
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like discord
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Learath2 2022-07-05 15:57:41Z
I'm very close to replacing xdg-open with a wrapper that clears DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
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@heinrich5991 the problem seems to be that I have that variable unset, and chromium replaces that with disabled: which breaks
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idk what part of my setup is failing that that variable is left unset though
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 16:00:27Z
have you git-blamed it? ^^
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Learath2 2022-07-05 16:00:48Z
don't know what app is responsible so don't know what to git-blame 😛
16:03
If chromium wasn't stupidly replacing it with disabled: xdg-launch just uses ~/.dbus/session-bus/
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If chromium wasn't stupidly replacing it with disabled: xdg-launch just uses ~/.dbus/session-bus/
Ronan 2022-07-05 16:21:45Z
i like my bitches disabled: as well (edited)
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 16:22:20Z
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Learath2 2022-07-05 16:22:49Z
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louis 2022-07-05 16:25:10Z
ha ha ha ha what a kneeslapper
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Learath2 2022-07-05 16:28:14Z
xDè
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Learath2
Click to see attachment 🖼️
cauldron 2022-07-05 16:47:52Z
wtf runescape
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 16:56:28Z
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cauldron 2022-07-05 17:02:37Z
i am music assembly dev web 😅
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:04:55Z
@heinrich5991 figured it out, but I doubt your problem is the same as mine. I was starting sxhkd before I started the dbus session so it wasn't inheriting the environment variables required
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 17:23:36Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5560 Glitchy directional stopper
Server: DDNet Pol - Novice (146.59.12.194:8311) Map: Pados 3 Client: DDNet 16.2 Maybe related to this issue? #5559 https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/55532712/177382315-a1cd4499-548c-425f-9279-dc371af3d350.mp4
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Iza 2022-07-05 17:24:00Z
everytime when i stream my game to discord, these artifacts happen, and they stay until i close the game
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everytime when i stream my game to discord, these artifacts happen, and they stay until i close the game
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:36:41Z
there is a fix for it, let me search it
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everytime when i stream my game to discord, these artifacts happen, and they stay until i close the game
Learath2 2022-07-05 17:37:04Z
I think @Jupstar ✪ said many times that this one is normal. You can use some weird setting that makes discords recording performance worse and that fixes it
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everytime when i stream my game to discord, these artifacts happen, and they stay until i close the game
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:37:10Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4711#issuecomment-1046824198
DDNet doesn't load some visual assets when Streaming through Discor...
Happens when using Discord to stream with direct application capture. Doesn't happen with other games or other capturing programs. Assets that aren't loaded seem to be random. Need ...
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Learath2
I think @Jupstar ✪ said many times that this one is normal. You can use some weird setting that makes discords recording performance worse and that fixes it
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:37:27Z
he even contacted discord support 😄
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Iza
everytime when i stream my game to discord, these artifacts happen, and they stay until i close the game
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:38:08Z
but u can also try to enable vulkan
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I think @Jupstar ✪ said many times that this one is normal. You can use some weird setting that makes discords recording performance worse and that fixes it
Iza 2022-07-05 17:38:08Z
doesn't seem like a nice trade off
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:38:10Z
maybe that helps
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:38:21Z
It's not but it'll work
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Iza 2022-07-05 17:38:25Z
i have problems with vulkan
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:38:36Z
does discord even test their shitty libraries
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:38:43Z
Vulkan works for me, opengl not
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:38:49Z
ok
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:39:00Z
With the old option both work, but performance is not as good
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Iza
i have problems with vulkan
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:39:14Z
u sure vulkan is on then?
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if it works for learath
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Iza 2022-07-05 17:39:50Z
nah vulkan is just not an option for me
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:39:58Z
u on macos or what
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Iza 2022-07-05 17:40:18Z
because appearently it freezes media like youtube in the background
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:40:25Z
ah u that guy
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still no driver updates to fix this? xd
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Iza 2022-07-05 17:40:44Z
i'm on the latest drivers idk
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:40:46Z
well else just use OBS or NVIDIA shadow play
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:40:50Z
It freezes other media? That's also bizarre
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You can just use the old recording thing in discord if your computer is not too bad
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:42:17Z
there are so many different issues for so many different ppl on so many different OS with so many different hardware it's insane
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i mean why does fucking razor put out a tool that injects rendering of games
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Learath2
You can just use the old recording thing in discord if your computer is not too bad
Iza 2022-07-05 17:42:45Z
you mean this?
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Jupstar ✪
i mean why does fucking razor put out a tool that injects rendering of games
Iza 2022-07-05 17:43:14Z
razer?
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:43:22Z
yes, disable the "latest technology" and I think it'll work
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:43:26Z
yeah we had problems with some razer tool too
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it injects some overlay into ddnet
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i mean why does fucking razor put out a tool that injects rendering of games
Learath2 2022-07-05 17:43:37Z
idk, overlay cool?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:43:39Z
and destroys everything
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xD
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we never tested it, but lets just release it
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Iza 2022-07-05 17:43:57Z
yeah razer causes so many sorts of problems, my friend couldn't start a game because the games anti cheat didnt allow the razer services
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:44:19Z
I wonder why our renderer broke so hard though, if it broke on AAA games it'd probably be instantly noticed
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Are they leaving something dirty after they render their overlay? Do we rely on something being unchanged on the next frame which they change?
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Jupstar ✪
it injects some overlay into ddnet
Iza 2022-07-05 17:45:09Z
why would it do that?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:46:02Z
just to make software more unreliable
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Iza
why would it do that?
Learath2 2022-07-05 17:46:50Z
to display stats iirc, I don't really remember what overlay it was
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Iza 2022-07-05 17:47:29Z
ah i think mouse heatmap
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:47:40Z
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top right
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is the overlay
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Iza 2022-07-05 17:47:56Z
that's nvidia
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:47:58Z
looks useless to me xd
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he uninstalled the razer tool and it worked again
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and smone else confirmed
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Iza
that's nvidia
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:48:30Z
the blue text
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:48:31Z
It'd actually be very interesting to know what they are breaking when they inject themselves at what I presume is the end of our pipeline
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the blue text
Iza 2022-07-05 17:48:58Z
ah weird i never saw that
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:49:00Z
We must be doing something drastically different to other games if this went unnoticed this long
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:49:12Z
yes, we use opengl xD
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case closed
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i bet its simply not tested
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AndreW 2022-07-05 17:49:25Z
Sry guys if i was spamming a discord invite, i was hacked
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:49:36Z
bcs how would u test an OpenGL injection
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:49:38Z
Other games use opengl too, I had no such problems in DOOM or Civ
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:49:49Z
u also didnt have this problem in ddnet
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:49:55Z
Though I only tested the discord thing, not the overlay
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:49:58Z
bcs u didnt install this razer trash nobody needs xD
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ok
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but still, then its just luck or smth
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Sry guys if i was spamming a discord invite, i was hacked
murpi 2022-07-05 17:50:27Z
Make sure to change your password ^^ it'll change your discord user token aswell
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Learath2 2022-07-05 17:50:32Z
Anyway, not saying it should be fixed, I'm just genuinely curious
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AndreW 2022-07-05 17:50:37Z
I was changed
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Learath2
Anyway, not saying it should be fixed, I'm just genuinely curious
Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 17:51:14Z
only thing i can imagine is that this only happens on opengl 3.3, bcs of gfx_enable_texture_unit_optimization 1 (edited)
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bcs that uses ALL available texture units of the GPU and the software renderer probs sucks hard compared to a high end NVIDIA card
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so the extra units simply get lost or are ignored
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but nobody ever confirmed it, and its a NVIDIA only problem for some reason apparently
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 18:03:23Z
test test
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is github down?
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oh maybe its me
18:03
ok it works
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 18:04:58Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5561 Remove useless GL 3.3 config

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...
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Ryozuki 2022-07-05 18:16:01Z
https://wiki.ddnet.org/
DDraceNetwork
DDraceNetwork (DDNet) is a free and open-source side-scrolling platformer with a unique cooperative gameplay.
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ez
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i wonder how google will react
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ddnet.tw is pretty up there
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 18:26:19Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5562 Can set Vulkan renderer on macOS
and it never gets reset even though it's not supported !Screenshot 2022-07-05 at 20 25 21
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Learath2 2022-07-05 18:27:23Z
5hz seems a little too busy for the snowflakes, but 1hz seems too slow 😛
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Wohoo 2022-07-05 18:38:51Z
Too many snowflakes on screen i think
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 18:59:43Z
i can increase the batch count, then we can make even more snowflakes
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lets reach 1 million
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in my clan chat they said we took "freeze" too literaly 😄
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paradise 2022-07-05 19:02:44Z
How to bring old hub back
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 19:03:08Z
disable HUD, if u dont need it
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paradise 2022-07-05 19:03:26Z
it was useful to see hearts + old stars example for timing 2s freezes
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 19:04:13Z
ah stars are a different topic yeah
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paradise 2022-07-05 19:05:16Z
Atleast make a option that u can bring old hub back and stars..
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Sans 2022-07-05 19:07:23Z
quick question, is there an api/npm package for ddnet? thinking of re-making https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet-discordbot with JS
GitHub - ddnet/ddnet-discordbot
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Wohoo 2022-07-05 19:07:23Z
I like new hud, just prefer stars over snowflakes. They fade away too slowly
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louis 2022-07-05 19:07:35Z
could add tick marks on the bar
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to make it better than stars to time 2s unfreeze
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paradise 2022-07-05 19:08:09Z
I mean it's ok i'll just download older client i guess
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 19:08:47Z
rip
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louis 2022-07-05 19:09:55Z
didnt know anyone used the heart hud to time freeze xd
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-07-05 19:10:14Z
i doubt anyone actually did, they mean stars
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paradise 2022-07-05 19:10:40Z
hmm didn't really use it, just really rarely but if u disable hud fully it feels so naked
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it was useful to see hearts + old stars example for timing 2s freezes
Learath2 2022-07-05 19:11:16Z
2s freezes, where did you use these?
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paradise 2022-07-05 19:11:34Z
on some speedruns its useful af
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Learath2 2022-07-05 19:11:48Z
iirc the way we did stars they shouldn't even be accurate enough for this
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louis 2022-07-05 19:12:01Z
actually adding ticks to the bar would be great
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iirc the way we did stars they shouldn't even be accurate enough for this
louis 2022-07-05 19:12:16Z
dont they emanate from center every freeze tick
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Tater 2022-07-05 19:26:52Z
Objectively the freeze bar is fine but it is changing one of the most important visual indicators in the game so I think its expected some people will never fully prefer it
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 19:39:47Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5563 Updated german language file
I updated the language file. Added new sentence and changed an existing one.

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  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
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Ta!zenyuki 2022-07-05 20:31:19Z
Hey, is there any way to get the (freeze ninja with katana) back? Btw i like the snowflakes when u are in freeze. but there are little bit to big. But cool feature!
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[quakenet] xq BOT 2022-07-05 20:47:50Z
How is dbg_dummies used? My server keep crashing no matter what value I give it.
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heinrich5991 2022-07-05 20:49:52Z
it's not supposed to be used
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[quakenet] xq BOT 2022-07-05 20:51:46Z
I guess, either way figured it out. Had to launch the server with the value in a config.
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 21:25:29Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
b3699fe Remove useless GL 3.3 config - Jupeyy 40687f9 Merge #5561 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5561 Remove useless OpenGL 3.3 config
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
8d59d0a Updated german language file - blueskyGH e257a9a Merge #5563 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5563 Updated german language file
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c0d3d3v 2022-07-05 21:55:41Z
CNetMsg_Sv_Record does no longer contain the personal best time (it is only send in some special conditions). I guess (without further investigation) it is because we changed the SQL query for the player data. I want to use the information for an update to the finish time display. If someone has an idea why it is lost... he can give me in an hint... I will try to fix it tomorrow.
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deen 2022-07-05 21:57:48Z
That sounds like a bug. I think Sv_Record should contain the best time
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c0d3d3v 2022-07-05 22:01:24Z
I will try to bisect it tomorrow, if no one else found the problem
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Ta!zenyuki
Hey, is there any way to get the (freeze ninja with katana) back? Btw i like the snowflakes when u are in freeze. but there are little bit to big. But cool feature!
cauldron 2022-07-05 22:05:28Z
https://ddnet.tw/downloads/#16.1 😅
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GitHub BOT 2022-07-05 22:06:24Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5564 Update language files and new German translations
Lots of new translations recently

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
  • [ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/d...
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cauldron
https://ddnet.tw/downloads/#16.1 😅
deen 2022-07-05 22:15:19Z
We should try to make the new version work well and recommend everyone to use it. Old versions won't get fixes and other improvements
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fokkonaut 2022-07-05 23:04:54Z
16.2 ping doesnt get updated
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