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I think having a speedrun category where it's limited to the map's required team size would be best.

For me /team is a way of playing with friends without any t0 residentsleeper

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i do agree that the dummy strat is unfair but don't think u should change top5team to fix it

Skeith

I think having a speedrun category where it's limited to the map's required team size would be best.

how about previous times ? I don't think we record how many players started the race

Skeith

I think having a speedrun category where it's limited to the map's required team size would be best.

f3

The problem is, this causes issues with people that would like to speedrun the maps

but then again for t0 maps idk

00:03

like adrenqline 5 or bit3

00:04

obviously no 2p ranks

Plant and his dummy YEP

Chairn

how about previous times ? I don't think we record how many players started the race

Yes, I suggested that we apply this to maps that we do have this information for, and future maps

which would only be future maps then. we don't have automated tools to extract the relevant information for existing maps

I see, so maybe a new leaderboard that favors speedrunners is the best approach

If anyone sees @Tsin pls tell him I've gone to bed. Thx

Since we don't have any proper systems in place for current speedrunners, it seems.

00:08

The fact that we have a channel #records for keeping track of top "team" ranks also suggests that /team is for speedrunners already

SPYRES

If anyone sees @Tsin pls tell him I've gone to bed. Thx

@Tsin , @SPYRES went to bed

Skeith

I see, so maybe a new leaderboard that favors speedrunners is the best approach

or like we discussed in the past just an indicator that a team started and finished as 2p

I guess, but that doesn't remove the problem

can clearly see when people used cheated methods to get on top then ig

00:18

idk if it will "fix" the problem but it can reserve the teamrank points to the legit ranks,also dont know if it will complicate the whole points system even more then and how hard its gonna be to implement

00:20

on the other hand anything is "legal" in speedrunning when you just use everything thats already in the game,not using external programs or tools to gain an advantage that others cant use

00:22

your main complaint is that cireme used dummies to skip some parts right? everyone can use dummies and do the same skips and beat their times,I see it as fair

It's fair ofc. It's just not fun

team 0 speedruns has the same exact problem where people just put their dummies at certain parts to skip the maps

And goes against the point of speedrunning maps

00:22

imo

its fun for some,its ass for others

It's ass for a majority, I'd bet

00:23

A majority doesn't even think to do it

why u want change our "speedrun" system if speedrunners aren't complaining about it, only 1 person (rockus) did

Skeith

And goes against the point of speedrunning maps

the point of speedrunning is doing the map in the fastest way possible,they discovered a new fastest possible way to do the map

It's not intuitive that you could abuse this feature, a person wanting to speedrun a map would just do the map as fast as they can

00:24

Not bring in other tees and cheese

NovaShock

the point of speedrunning is doing the map in the fastest way possible,they discovered a new fastest possible way to do the map

yes, Skeith is arguing that he doesn't like it and that it should be forbidden because he thinks that other people also don't like it

I actually play the game, or try to, at a competitive level kek

... sometimes