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Between 2022-06-24 00:00:00Z and 2022-06-25 00:00:00Z
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Chairn 2022-06-24 02:06:43Z
Just realised someone once added boost to teeworlds
02:07
i was wondering why git was taking so much space
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Learath2 2022-06-24 02:10:27Z
who dared?
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Chairn 2022-06-24 02:26:03Z
commit ef097cd77c36c1d5932fa37f49a26d5ed81aecd3 Author: Allisone <qoo-ooq@gmx.de> Date: Fri Nov 12 21:39:58 2010 +0100 added MySQL support for Mac OS X 10.5 min 32bit and 64bit as team with GreYFoX
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lol, that's not the biggest commit we have, only 3rd one
frozen 1
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44.9MB ef097cd77c36c1d5932fa37f49a26d5ed81aecd3 7551
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I used this script: https://confluence.atlassian.com/fishkb/determine-the-size-of-each-git-commit-292651328.html
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took around 8 minutes
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 04:05:39Z
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fabiee
[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5487 Add buttons that copy a report template to your clipboard
Suggested by Murpi in #5440.
This may help people trying to report others for not following the server rules on discord, and moderators a quick way to connect to the server.
Adds 2 buttons for copying a report template to your clipboard. Allows for simple and somewhat standardized discord reports. The locations of these buttons are shown in the images below. Clipboard formatting:
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 04:45:58Z
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Chairn
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5425 Add DDraceNetwork to Consoles Store
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Chairn
[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5425 Add DDraceNetwork to Consoles Store
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louis 2022-06-24 04:49:14Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4619
Further android build fixes by Jupeyy · Pull Request #4619 · ddnet/...
I just build the whole Android project now to check if there is other stuff: SDL also renamed a CMAKE flag apparently we updated icons, 512x512 was removed the newer compiler version warned about ...
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how do i use this on android?
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Chairn 2022-06-24 04:53:12Z
try scripts/android/cmake_android.sh
04:53
and this https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/master/scripts/android/README.md
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louis 2022-06-24 04:56:33Z
wait can i compile it while on android
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Chairn 2022-06-24 04:57:26Z
probably not
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louis 2022-06-24 04:57:43Z
i guess i need to find someone to send me an apk
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deen
16.2-rc4 will be the test, 16.2 will be a regular release and stay for the usual 4-8 weeks
c0d3d3v 2022-06-24 08:13:21Z
So I make the PR finished for 16.2-rc4, and then we decide if we want to remove the freezebar completely again (to come up in the future with an better solution), or add an legacy option? I mean dropping complete freezebar can be done in one commit ^^ poor me wasting time. But that was kind of part of the deal when working on some new visuals. (edited)
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deen 2022-06-24 08:32:45Z
ok
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 08:38:42Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5488 dump_local_console seems not to be correct UTF-8
As reported on Discord by Ham5terzilla:
russian lang in local console dump is corrupted, example: [2022-06-24 12:30:08][chat]: NT RYSKI: Админ ебаный хуй -> [2022-06-24 12:30:08][chat]: NT RYSKI: РђРґРјРёРЅ ебаный С…СѓР№
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deen 2022-06-24 09:22:52Z
@Ham5terzilla (Макс) Can you check/reply to https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5488#issuecomment-1165358947 ?
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Mʎɹ シ 2022-06-24 09:33:01Z
Perfect text for commit xD
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Matodor 2022-06-24 10:00:44Z
@Ham5terzilla (Макс) nice text 💀
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 10:01:06Z
admin go fuck yourself?
10:01
google translate agrees with my limited russian knowledge
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:06:54Z
https://kotaku.com/zachtronics-farewell-goodbye-closing-eliza-last-call-bb-1849096767
Goodbye Zachtronics, Developers Of Very Cool Video Games
The team behind games like Eliza are closing shop on their own terms
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damn
10:07
my favourite game studio is closing down
10:07
not because of any reason but because they want to
10:07
actually a good article
10:09
when people start calling other puzzle games "zach-like" you know their shit is good
10:09
sad
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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1098840/ZACHLIKE/
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great insight on game dev
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(authors of https://store.steampowered.com/app/370360/TIS100/)
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:26:42Z
btw this is the author of infiniminer, the game that inspired minecraft
10:26
PepeA
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Learath2 2022-06-24 10:27:57Z
Rip zachtronics
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Learath2
Rip zachtronics
Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:28:23Z
you know the most weird thing
10:28
is that he is retiring to go work teaching high school kids
10:28
(probs about programming)
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Learath2 2022-06-24 10:29:17Z
The article says he didnt like teaching as much as he expected and he definitely wants to do something to do with games
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:29:29Z
ah
10:29
i iread through 3 reddits about the teaching xD
10:30
but they will release a last game
10:30
that has several minigames inside
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Learath2 2022-06-24 10:30:30Z
I did just wake up, I might have misread it that is also possible :D
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:30:34Z
of the size of atleast TIS-100
10:30
july 5th
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdU-ABucIjk
Zachtronics
Last Call BBS, by Zachtronics
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Learath2 2022-06-24 10:31:09Z
I would rather die than become a high school teacher if hs kids are anything like they are in turkey
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:31:50Z
same
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Learath2 2022-06-24 10:31:53Z
High school kids are the most toxic creatures on earth
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:32:47Z
they are evil too
10:33
they with ruthlessly bully teachers if they see a inch of weakness
10:33
i saw that when i was in high school
10:33
there was one teacher that seemed.. a bit stupid
10:34
and oh god
10:34
xD
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 10:34:14Z
depends on the school 😛
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:34:22Z
a public high school
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Learath2 2022-06-24 10:34:23Z
We had this physics teacher that put so much work into his classes. He was one of the only teachers that used the labs and stuff. They sucked the life out of the guy in one year, the man turned his lectures into just looking at a book
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 10:34:24Z
I think we had some healthy relationships with teachers
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:34:25Z
where everyone can go
10:34
well same most of the time
10:34
i also had a good relationship with a teacher
10:34
he got me into linux and python
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Learath2
We had this physics teacher that put so much work into his classes. He was one of the only teachers that used the labs and stuff. They sucked the life out of the guy in one year, the man turned his lectures into just looking at a book
Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:36:05Z
thats sad
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Learath2 2022-06-24 10:36:07Z
I had a decent relationship with most my teachers for I didn't act like a troglodyte
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:36:11Z
but i guess thats why most teachers end up like that
10:36
as time goes
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Learath2
I had a decent relationship with most my teachers for I didn't act like a troglodyte
Ryozuki 2022-06-24 10:36:38Z
you may not have but there was always a stupid annoying kid trying to be a clown
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Learath2 2022-06-24 10:38:22Z
That's an essential type of student, I think every hs has a clown
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 10:39:12Z
that was definitely not me for a long time
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 10:39:25Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5472 render everything in demos
10:40
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[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #4873 Freeze bullets don't render corretly.
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-06-24 10:56:13Z
what exactly is your BlockWorlds branch even about? @nouaa its not the official BW that runs on bombay servers is it? Is it you building up on the leaked version? Is it your open source rewrite? Are there any servers running it? Who is this for?
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 10:58:05Z
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[ddnet:master] 3 new commits
bd2f1b7 Move libpng libraries to expected name for macOS - def- 805f6ac Fix win32 discord compilation - def- 864bcc9 Merge #5484 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5484 Move libpng libraries to expected name for macOS
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-06-24 11:04:39Z
And i cant build it https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/m0
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but if a pointer derefrence segfaults just add a if statement if the pointer is null beforehand
11:10
Any gnomies here? Who knows what changed with window tabbing? .-.
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon
what exactly is your BlockWorlds branch even about? @nouaa its not the official BW that runs on bombay servers is it? Is it you building up on the leaked version? Is it your open source rewrite? Are there any servers running it? Who is this for?
nouaa 2022-06-24 11:24:43Z
it's just a simple branch that should only contain cosmetics that could be added to BW's srvs, + it is in no way about leaking
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon
And i cant build it https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/m0
nouaa 2022-06-24 11:25:34Z
weird, gonna check tonight
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 11:29:09Z
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[ddnet/ddnet-libs] Pull request closed: #31 Move libpng libraries to expected name for macOS
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ca84f73 Move libpng libraries to expected name for macOS (#31) - def-
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[quakenet] ChillerDragon BOT 2022-06-24 11:40:43Z
i see
11:40
so its open contribution fork to close src project :D
11:41
omg im crying seems like a gnome update broke my hack client lmao
11:41
not that this is making any sense
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 11:49:43Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
1efde9e Revert "Build our own drmingw with mingw" - def- 911e5e1 Merge #5475 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5475 Revert "Build our own drmingw with mingw"
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murpi 2022-06-24 12:16:03Z
my game just randomy crashed:
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my game just randomy crashed:
nouaa 2022-06-24 12:17:19Z
Someone already reported that issue
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 12:17:45Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5489 Fix build with -DUPNP=ON
We should have a CI that builds the same cmake settings as this arch package https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=ddnet-git
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murpi 2022-06-24 12:17:51Z
where?
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nouaa 2022-06-24 12:18:12Z
In #bugs i think (edited)
12:18
It was 1 or 2 weeks ago
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murpi
where?
nori 2022-06-24 12:19:49Z
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5475 this?
Revert "Build our own drmingw with mingw" by def- · Pull Request #5...
Pastoer reported on Discord that this causes warnings when closing client: Checklist Tested the change ingame Provided screenshots if it is a visual change Tested in combination with possibly ...
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murpi 2022-06-24 12:21:03Z
I don't think that's related to my crash though
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deen
@Ham5terzilla (Макс) Can you check/reply to https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/5488#issuecomment-1165358947 ?
Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-06-24 12:43:48Z
Forgot psw, I'll reply after xd
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Matodor
@Ham5terzilla (Макс) nice text 💀
Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-06-24 12:44:16Z
From moderation practice x) This guy banned (for block, not for this). Close off-topic (edited)
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murpi
where?
Lagar 2022-06-24 12:48:00Z
https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/988336481640792094
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murpi 2022-06-24 12:54:03Z
yes, again, I don't think it's related to my crash
12:54
(or leading to my crash)
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Ham5terzilla (Макс)
Forgot psw, I'll reply after xd
Ham5terzilla (Макс) 2022-06-24 13:06:27Z
replyed
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louis
https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4619
Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 13:22:28Z
what do u need the apk for
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it doesnt contain joystick or smth
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murpi
my game just randomy crashed:
deen 2022-06-24 13:25:04Z
What's the exact version?
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deen
What's the exact version?
murpi 2022-06-24 13:32:30Z
nightly
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actually, I haven't updated yet
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so... the build from yesterday I guess 😄
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 14:03:24Z
@murpi r u using opengl 1.x?
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@murpi r u using opengl 1.x?
murpi 2022-06-24 14:04:16Z
yes
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 14:05:03Z
do u remember the map it happened on?
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murpi 2022-06-24 14:06:28Z
Deadline 1
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 14:06:28Z
also is there a reason to use opengl 1.x?
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murpi 2022-06-24 14:06:40Z
No, I probably forgot to change it
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 14:07:03Z
ok, weird that it crashes tho, might be completly unrelated to what the crashlog has shown 😄
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murpi 2022-06-24 14:07:24Z
It was quite sudden, nothing special happening ^^
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 14:07:54Z
Just for completness, this is the stacktrace Parsing address: 1401D2E17 (img base: 140000000) /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/engine/client/graphics_threaded.h:1085 Parsing address: 1400EB4D3 (img base: 140000000) /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/game/client/render_map.cpp:426 Parsing address: 140075985 (img base: 140000000) /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/game/client/components/maplayers.cpp:1589 Parsing address: 1400D2755 (img base: 140000000) /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/game/client/gameclient.cpp:607 Parsing address: 14001DF0C (img base: 140000000) /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/engine/client/client.cpp:1031 Parsing address: 140026D50 (img base: 140000000) /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/engine/client/client.cpp:3242 Parsing address: 14022136F (img base: 140000000) /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/engine/client/client.cpp:4565 Parsing address: 1400013B1 (img base: 140000000)
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damn it looks so beautiful xD
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 14:12:44Z
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
0163aa5 Fix build with -DUPNP=ON - ChillerDragon 34da9f2 Merge #5489 - bors[bot]
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5489 Fix build with -DUPNP=ON
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 14:13:52Z
apparently it was a Data Execution Prevention violation
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this sounds rather creepy tbh
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that means it tried to run heap code, can ofc just be an coincidence (edited)
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@Learath2 your judgment? How likely does memory corruption cause DEP? To me this sounds like a real edge case.. maybe the vtable was broken somehow? or an outside program like discord was faulty?
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Dev7z 2022-06-24 14:42:42Z
i cant believe i doscovered this just now
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@Learath2 your judgment? How likely does memory corruption cause DEP? To me this sounds like a real edge case.. maybe the vtable was broken somehow? or an outside program like discord was faulty?
Learath2 2022-06-24 14:43:01Z
Mh, maybe stack corruption? you'd have to be very lucky to write a pointer properly aligned right on top of the return address though
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 14:43:20Z
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[ddnet-web:pr-16.2] 1 new commit
38b537c Version 16.2 - def-
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Learath2 2022-06-24 14:43:26Z
It could also be a vtable that got destroyed, do you have the address it tried to run in the heap?
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Dev7z
i cant believe i doscovered this just now
Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 14:43:31Z
did u always read irclogs or what
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hussainx3 2022-06-24 14:43:37Z
stop add cheating for ddnet :_: remove swap
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did u always read irclogs or what
Dev7z 2022-06-24 14:44:33Z
yes
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 14:44:48Z
savage
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Dev7z 2022-06-24 14:44:56Z
i though i was pro dorker
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 14:47:51Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5490 Try to fix dump_local_console (fixes #5488)
Untested, but my hunch is that by not cutting off the last part the text file will be correctly recognized as valid utf8

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  • [ ] Tested the change ingame
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  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing map...
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stop add cheating for ddnet :_: remove swap
deen 2022-06-24 14:50:45Z
We added /timeout many years ago, since then swapping is possible
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Ryozuki 2022-06-24 15:13:53Z
https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2022/05/unpaid-social-media-moderators/
Unpaid social media moderators perform labor worth at least $3.4 mi...
Can regular users wield the value of their contributions as leverage against Big Tech?
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Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 15:15:10Z
3.4 million only? i'd assume much higher values tbh
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 15:57:57Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
d0929a3 Add RUS2 - def-
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Ясно Понятно 2022-06-24 17:50:41Z
who know, what i need choose to get more fps
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deen 2022-06-24 17:53:10Z
bottom to top
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Vulkan > OpenGL 3.3.0 > OpenGL 3.0.0 > OpenGL 1.4.0
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APFFF 2022-06-24 17:53:50Z
idk how connecting to a server is implemented but it would be a really cool if you would be put into a waiting queue to join a full server. FIFO
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deen 2022-06-24 17:54:02Z
no
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We don't want that. We have enough empty servers around for everyone
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I don't want 50 people waiting to join a full 64 player server, just join a different server and others will come
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APFFF 2022-06-24 17:54:41Z
I can see that
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deen 2022-06-24 17:54:42Z
Better teach new players how to switch map
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Vulkan > OpenGL 3.3.0 > OpenGL 3.0.0 > OpenGL 1.4.0
Wohoo 2022-06-24 18:07:22Z
If I select vulkan, it falls back to custom OpenGL 2.0.0 :(
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If I select vulkan, it falls back to custom OpenGL 2.0.0 :(
Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 18:07:34Z
whats ur gpu
18:07
some intel
gg 2
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but which
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If I select vulkan, it falls back to custom OpenGL 2.0.0 :(
Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 18:12:17Z
u can see it in f1 in purple text before u search xd
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u can see it in f1 in purple text before u search xd
Wohoo 2022-06-24 18:32:23Z
OH. I'm using integrated gpu. That's the reason it heat up and crash from time to time
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Wohoo 2022-06-24 18:40:59Z
@Jupstar ✪ Is there a way to reset video and keep racing? I usually join with another client and try to swap. Crashed client works correctly, but shows nothing on screen, inputs are correctly handled
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@Jupstar ✪ Is there a way to reset video and keep racing? I usually join with another client and try to swap. Crashed client works correctly, but shows nothing on screen, inputs are correctly handled
Jupstar ✪ 2022-06-24 18:57:43Z
u can disconnect your internet, then close client
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then connect internet again
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Wohoo 2022-06-24 19:07:45Z
I will try this way
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I use RC3, there is something that can cause micro freezes or drop fps?
crqch 2022-06-24 20:10:10Z
literally me aswell, searched the fps phrase thats why im responding 9 hours after, did you found any fix to that issue?
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chillerdragon BOT 2022-06-24 20:17:25Z
When more slots? 0.0 (@deen)
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I don&#x27;t want 50 people waiting to join a full 64 player server, just join a different server and others will come
2022-06-24 17:54:24Z
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 21:16:52Z
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
00d4847 Remove old costs for ddnet.tw server - def-
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When more slots? 0.0 (@deen)
fokkonaut 2022-06-24 21:18:33Z
fddrace ftw
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cauldron 2022-06-24 21:58:54Z
i never had to wait longer than a few minutes to connect to a full stronghold server
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
58efea7 Add codebrowser-data - def-
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[ddnet-scripts:master] 2 new commits
c66a2ca Disable own drmingw build - def- e92b0dd Add codebrowser - def-
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:12:06Z
Skeith suggested that one could disallow people from finishing as a team if they lose one tee
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to fix people skipping first parts with extra tees
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I don't really like that, I think it should be okay to lose someone on the way and still get a team rank
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Chairn 2022-06-24 23:12:41Z
uh no, bad idea
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
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[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit
8c20b9e No toggle line number - def-
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:14:09Z
the problem is that I see no way to distinguish between "tee acidentally lost on the way" and "tee intentionally killed to skip early parts"
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so unless we find a way to do that, I think it should stay possible to finish with an incomplete team
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[ddnet-scripts:master] 1 new commit
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:17:06Z
I personally don't think it matters, speedrunning should be done without killing off your teammates, if one person dies, then you failed at finishing as a "team"
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Playing with more than 2 tees will almost always be slower anyways. I believe people would mostly only use extra tees (dummies) to bypass certain parts, not actually speedrun with them.
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:19:43Z
it's undeniable that people play in larger teams for fun as well
23:19
you can obviously say that you don't want to support that
23:19
but I think that'd be bad
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:20:06Z
I think it's fine to do that, as long as everyone finishes.
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louis 2022-06-24 23:20:21Z
what if it's on a faily map
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:20:24Z
yes, but that's unlikely with larger teams
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funman 2022-06-24 23:20:35Z
i thought if someone dies in a team all die
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:20:49Z
only with /lock @funman
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funman 2022-06-24 23:20:56Z
oh ok
23:21
but then why would you get a team rank for an unlocked team?
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:21:38Z
Team ranks should be used for speedrunning, it sounds more like they're just playing the map... Idk, I just prefer the old idea of speedrunning, 2 tees doing the map as fast as possible
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:21:41Z
because it was deemed okay to lose tees on the way @funman
23:22
@Skeith so you're saying that team ranks are only for speed runners. that's fine
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funman 2022-06-24 23:22:13Z
well yeah you can keep the finish but the team rank its self should be for locked teams
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:22:16Z
I disagree with that statement, I think they're also for people playing in a team for fun
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(I'm extrapolating that statement because you say that teams shouldn't be able to finish for a team rank if they lose someone. that seems unrealstic for larger teams playing for fun, hence my statement above)
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:23:33Z
It sounds like there should be a different category for speedrun ranks then, I really thought team ranks were the whole point of that
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Chairn 2022-06-24 23:24:22Z
why a different category when speedrunners are always on top?
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louis 2022-06-24 23:24:37Z
rank and teamrank points should be consolidated into time points, solo+dummy gives based on rank and 2p maps gives based on teamrank with no kills
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if that was to be added
23:24
but i think there isnt much point to do that
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Chairn
why a different category when speedrunners are always on top?
heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:24:58Z
because he's saying that speedrunning should not contain killing tees for speed
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:25:00Z
Because skipping parts with the use of extra tees that you kill off afterwards seems weird for speedrunning
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Chairn 2022-06-24 23:25:20Z
it's also part of the game, i don't understand why you would want to restrict that
23:25
cutting is part of any race game
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:25:37Z
Well, it wasn't a part of the game initially, dummy didn't always exist
23:25
I guess you could have other players help you
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funman 2022-06-24 23:25:54Z
i think its fine if its just dummies but like if you got 20 people to help you and kill would be silly
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:26:00Z
dummy didn't exist since the beginning of ddnet?
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:26:03Z
But I don't think anyone really did that back in the day?
23:26
I'm talking before ddnet
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heinrich5991 2022-06-24 23:26:20Z
well, ddnet only has ranks since ddnet
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heinrich5991
dummy didn't exist since the beginning of ddnet?
Chairn 2022-06-24 23:26:30Z
not that i know, it was added shortly after
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commit 3dce4c94899f95c8b9ca52bd25fd6a2a52e10b62 Author: def <dennis@felsin9.de> Date: Sat Apr 26 20:29:42 2014 +0200 Add dummy (Thanks to //toast and Monsta)
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ddnet created on july 2013
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:27:29Z
But speedrunning in the past didn't make use of them, is what I'm saying. Sure it exists now and you could view it as a mechanic, but I don't think a majority of speedrunners enjoy that you need to do it
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 23:29:00Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5491 Move twping to tools directory

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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5492 Mention code browser in readme

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  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...
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Chairn 2022-06-24 23:35:48Z
hmm, codebrowser lacks a scroll bar for history panel
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:35:57Z
I think it would at least be a quality of life improvement if future maps didn't allow it. At least for speedrunners.
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Chairn 2022-06-24 23:36:55Z
do you have any example of map being cut with tees being ditched?
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:37:01Z
Water Lily
23:37
My rank was beat by Cireme, he didn't even know that certain skips existed until he watched me and Shinoa play it, he was surprised
23:37
Skipping parts with the use of dummies gave that much of a time save (edited)
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This is the skip he didn't do in his run, but still beat our ranks, due to using dummies
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It saves a lot of time
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23:40
You skip the long section at the bottom by putting 2 tees through the first 2 parts quickly
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GitHub BOT 2022-06-24 23:40:33Z
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5493 integration test: print log diff for easier result check

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  • [ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
  • [ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
  • [ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
  • [ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
  • [ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:43:54Z
I'm sure there are maps that have bigger time saves using this method
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Chairn
hmm, codebrowser lacks a scroll bar for history panel
deen 2022-06-24 23:45:19Z
Shows one for me on Firefox
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Chairn 2022-06-24 23:46:49Z
doesn't for me
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firefox 101.0.1
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ubuntu
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Skeith 2022-06-24 23:47:24Z
@Cireme Do you have any input on the topic?
23:49
Respond in #general I guess
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[ddnet:master] 2 new commits
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[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5491 Move twping to tools directory
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