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@lynn 5 messages up

04:30

not even slander but if u cant take a joke dont make one lol

i still don't understand

https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/965202391345532928/988961046637191178

You don't have access to this link feelsbadman

feelsbadman

Chairn

You don't have access to this link feelsbadman

feelsbadman

#deleted-channel

i said you would have an aneurysm because of "spam" in the testing channels

05:38

wasn't related at all to my comment about testing

05:39

i still think there are little assurances for non-testers. which is why you get a ton of ppl testing known mappers since they know it has a good chance of being released

u say u want to improve testing but never test and usually just write unnecessary things in channels

05:47

people test known mappers because their maps are fun, not because it has a better chance of release

I think she just wants things to improve in general, whether or not its because of or from her

of course everyone wants things to improve in general

06:29

im annoyed at her behavior about it not her opinions

06:35

everyone knows testing is flawed but random map channels isnt the place to discuss it

yeah

people are too concerned with keeping channels clean like 20 messages is gonna kill them

07:27

and yes of course i would avoid testing if i dislike the system

07:27

it doesn't require me restating that to realize it

louis

of course everyone wants things to improve in general

i disagree :)

07:28

people would rather spend more time complaining about moderating the discord server instead of taking the feedback to heart

07:28

basically nothing i have said about testing has ever been agreed with, by any tester

07:29

there was maybe one thing but it was parallel to the current system

07:29

more status indicators

07:29

needs design/untested

07:30

and imo lazy to say "you do nothing about it either!!!!" instead of actually acknowledging my points

07:30

and it's no shock to you maybe but this is a problem with all areas of ddnet staff... not just testing :P

07:31

maybe if the Untested map indicator is added to Discord it will be easier for testers to test

07:32

map testing category is GIGANTIC these days idk how you guys do your jobs

louis

im annoyed at her behavior about it not her opinions

and you know VERY WELL that i am way less troll than like 80% of ddnet so don't even act like it's the biggest concern w my rants

07:33

if it will help you sleep at night to never mention these things in testing channels i will try to make an effort

we need threads

07:34

in testing channels

07:35

so if we have a conversation or an issue or something relating to that specific map, we dont have to spam the main testing channel with stuff like that

i have also advocated for this

07:35

gets lost

07:35

gets forgotten

07:35

no one cares

07:36

Design/mapres bug thread, Skip thread, gameplay/flow thread, bot actions thread

07:36

discord is already not the best place for map testing but it's what we all use

yea

bot actions thread will double as "official tester statements" if you want to look at it that way

07:37

conclusive reasoning for why a map is rated/approved/denied

lynn

Design/mapres bug thread, Skip thread, gameplay/flow thread, bot actions thread

specific threads could be interesting but i was more thinking giving users the ability to create threads for specific discussions, so like if someone is arguing about some controversial topic, they can make a thread for just that that auto archives after like a few hours or something

07:38

although having specific threads as well would be cool

i meant both ya

07:38

like

07:38

dedicated ones that are always there

ye

but also ones testers can make on the fly for specific discussions

07:38

usually the topics i bring up eventually get general, but they still apply to the sentiment of the map. i think it belongs but ofc i see why testers dont think so

07:38

or at least louis doesn't

it helps to make actual important info still visible, for testing if the map has bugs or any gameplay issues etc take the just pseudo fly test channel for example, people were talking alot in there regarding the whole 'dummy vs 2p' controversy or whatever, which can still provide value to that map in particular but not enough to have it take up space in the main channel for it

My youtube recommendations are full of cow hoof trimmers. What the fuck is wrong with the algorithm?

Yt is telling u something maybe

09:47

PES3_SusAlt

To become a cow hoof trimmer?

09:48

That'd be one weird career switch

lynn

needs design/untested

Its in the rules that all submitted maps have to have a complete design and tested my mappers. U dont really need the untested status since u can just click on the channel and already see if some tester did or not xd

11:24

I think the current status indicators are sufficient xd

11:24

Maybe "almost ready" could be useful

11:25

But other than that i dont think it matters much

untested would be helpful, you're not going to know without looking unless you remember testing it yourself

Well if someone posted a screenshot

11:31

Or the mapper updates the map

11:31

U know it got tested

11:32

Some discord indicators wont reform testing xd

11:33

Probably if some map had the untested status, testers would be even more unwilling to test it

how to make it background in the game?

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12:22

и потом двигаешь квад на сцену

а как сделать, чтобы везде такое было

12:32

на всех картах

аа

13:07

в этом смысле

13:07

сохраняешь карту и в настройках ищешь hud background map

13:08

вкладка ddnet -> фон

13:08

там карта

@eujax @wisal

Learath2

My youtube recommendations are full of cow hoof trimmers. What the fuck is wrong with the algorithm?

same

lynn

basically nothing i have said about testing has ever been agreed with, by any tester

probably cause u always downplay testing but never experienced how annoying testing is because of how detailed u have to be

14:17

status indicators does nothing if ppl dont test often anyways

14:18

also in my case i view "untested" maps as things with low channel activity

14:20

so when ppl spam stuff it personally makes me view it as having activity and therefore i dont need to look at it

lynn

and imo lazy to say "you do nothing about it either!!!!" instead of actually acknowledging my points

oh so u want us to code a rehaul of the entire testing system instead of just making the current one tidy where it can be

I also want to code a rehaul of the testing thing, why are we doing it on discord

louis

oh so u want us to code a rehaul of the entire testing system instead of just making the current one tidy where it can be

code? wat

14:24

and again, people not valuing someone's opinion in the land of ddnet bc "guhhh you didn't work as hard as me"

Learath2

I also want to code a rehaul of the testing thing, why are we doing it on discord

With rust right?

14:27

bluekitty

Ryozuki

With rust right?

Well I have an almost done rust rewrite that keeps it on discord, but I was thinking of moving it to the web

not because you dont work hard as us but because how are u gonna understand how testing works at its core if u never even tested

14:34

u only speak from what u see on the outside which is a lot of new mapper experience

14:38

but not many things that in my opinion would make testing more efficient

all i ask is that ppl acknowledge the opinions for what they are, even if they disagree. most of the time people just say "no" and move on

no

lol

ez (edited)

hot take, testing cringe, moderating is cooler

14:52

~~this is a joke pls don't decline my maps~~

go back to #reports bro

like anyone does that shit

14:55

many people do

14:55

/hj

guize it ssimple population issue, ddr population has exploded yet testers numbered less than 10 since 4y

19:25

easy solution onboard more testers as they are unwilling to democratize again

we start pronatalist tester program

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