DDraceNetwork - developer

louis

would be nice if some announcements were more heavily weighed on novice servers kek

agreed

AssassinTee

@heinrich5991 does the server require now ipv6 btw?

sv_register ipv4

Jupstar ✪

like 3rd time ddnet.tw was down this week

the first time, it was DoSed, the other three times it was down due to a network misconfiguration that @Learath2 now tracked down. so hopefully it won't go down again(?)

02:39

(I'm away for the weekend, can't set up a second master, and a proper second master needs code anyway)

dang, updated firefox, and now it crashes 100% on some page... and im using release canal...

03:17

ironically, it crashes on mozilla.org mostly

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 4 new commits

405ae97 Fix editor value scrollers not working and panning being slow - Robyt3 d9f4e14 Update comment - Robyt3 c318dca Remove accidentally added double type - Robyt3 d4f0e5c Merge #5445 - bors[bot]

03:20

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5441 Slow editor navigation

03:20

bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5445 Fix editor value scrollers not working and panning being slow

cwh7435

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5447 Update Korean translations by CHaBek

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect existing maps
[ ] Tested the change with [ASan+UBSan or valgrind's memcheck](https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/#using-addresssanitizer--u...

heinrich5991

perhaps we could get an actual freeze animation

The PR already includes a freeze animation (but only particles, we have decided to only do a small step first ^^ next step would be to come up with a better solution then ninja skin) (edited)

fokkonaut

@c0d3d3v I didnt know what exactly you meant yesterday I think, but I think a flag for the freezebar from the server aswell as a flag for the stars to be rendered clientside with the ninja skin will be the way to go. Either you can add it to your pr, or I would add it for you to copy

I do not want to re add stars in 16.2... If it is not accepted by the comunity that should be done in 16.3

AssassinTee

jokes aside, aren't skins limited in their size?

no, normal skins have ~32units width and height but can get up to 64 units

fokkonaut

I personally always played with show ninja 0. Is that now also impossible for freeze?

it is still posible

fokkonaut

At least during fast gameplay, yes.

You could implement a colorblind option that forbids some not distinguishable colors from rendering

c0d3d3v

no, normal skins have ~32units width and height but can get up to 64 units

they can go up to whatever, even

heinrich5991

they can go up to whatever, even

No, the max size is 64 units (edited)

08:43

only if you activate fat skin, but then we would scale extras too

08:46

08:46

left is max skin; right is normal

heinrich5991

sv_register ipv4

oh thank you ❤️

c0d3d3v

No, the max size is 64 units (edited)

what's the purpose of this?

of what?

fat skins

fat skins != max size skins

08:52

fat skins are for fun

so only visuals?

max size can be used to get creative

so sticking a huge antenna out of my skin for example?

but there are not much skins that used all the space usefull

08:53

because the hitbox is only 28 radius

08:53

it is also bad to play with skins that have 64 units

AssassinTee

so sticking a huge antenna out of my skin for example?

jup

The translation branch is for a not yet merged controller branch, is it? I want to check something in the code (or in the client directly) where the translation might be wrong

what are you looking for?

"custom" is tranlated with "eigene"

08:55

and directly in front is "default" translated with "Standard", this seems wrong

08:57

from first glance I am sure they have a similar usecase, and that custom might be "Benutzerdefiniert"

I do not see these translations. But maybe "Benutzerdefiniert" was to long... because we do not scale all lables

can't get the permalink out of it oO wait a sec

AssassinTee

so sticking a huge antenna out of my skin for example?

the antanna can not be to huge, as you can see in my screenshot xD

I'll make my sattelite dish fit! :3

09:01

https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/41d364e0885b528ac1a4a88a25dd2a6b5253e8da/data/languages/german.txt#L1344 (edited)

new is it not https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/b0bd09683302ae15094a1ee43a6f9c2176405bc2

Update German translation · ddnet/ddnet@b0bd096

09:05

it is used for the vulkan backend in the settings

I consider 3 month older pretty new in teeworlds history context

09:05

oh no, I'd need to start the client and look where it's used

Looks like a custom user defined backend or something

should be somewhere there

Ah I see, so something like Vulkan (1.0.0) - custom

no

09:07

custom would be before that

hmm

I think "eigener" would fit in the context of Renderer

There a multiple values, so it might be plural

"benutzerdefiniert"

no they are above... I think the "custom" one is one that you define via f1 configs (edited)

I wonder if a person will ever run into this

maybe if you do it like the pined message in #bugs

wow, ddnet really has a lot of options, this is great

def-

[ddnet/ddnet-scripts] Pull request closed: #40 Grammar, gender neutrality

09:20

def-

[ddnet-scripts:master] 2 new commits

7e8ba6d Grammar, gender neutrality - kaitlynia f08e8aa Merge pull request #40 from kaitlynia/patch-1 - def-

Broso56

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5448 Option to submit demos to website

Adding a section to the website to submit < Rank 5 demos of maps, having a tab on the official website where players have the option of voluntarily sharing their best runs to the site. This would allow speedrunners to look through demos and find any potential skips or tricks, and further improve the best times, without really hurting either side of the "public demos" argument, and casual players could use this to find out how to do certain parts on a map. It would also allow c...

ddnet has that beatiful mix function which is linear, does it have a sigmoid version of this, too? I know it's used in the editor but I don't know if it's easily accessible

AssassinTee

ddnet has that beatiful mix function which is linear, does it have a sigmoid version of this, too? I know it's used in the editor but I don't know if it's easily accessible

I do not know, but I also thought about a nice sigmoid function for particle effects in the future.

can you elaborate, what would you sigmoid-ify on particles?

maybe the editor uses game/bezier.cpp instead of sigmoid... did not have a look at it

you are probably right

09:56

can't find any sigmoid, tanh or arctan function (edited)

AssassinTee

can you elaborate, what would you sigmoid-ify on particles?

transition of size and alpha. But I guess linear is good enough.

meh guess you are right

c0d3d3v

maybe the editor uses game/bezier.cpp instead of sigmoid... did not have a look at it

seems like bezier is only used for the camera

it uses CURVETYPE_SMOOTH, but I don't get the code

uses second hermite basis

GitHub

Click to see attachment 🖼️

@Learath2 any hope for this?

src/game/client/render_map.cpp#L17-L82

a = -2 * a * a * a + 3 * a * a; // second hermite basis

10:01

y

M Emile

@Learath2 any hope for this?

Well fhe server side demo recorder is a bit broken, so it might take significant effort

just a page where we can upload personnal demos?

Hi

10:03

Hi

10:03

I've changed ISP and now when I connect to kog servers i am auto banned for using vpn (i'm not).

10:03

How can I unblock my network? :(

You'll need to ask inside the KoG discord

I've tried :(

https://discord.gg/stbPyR2F

10:04

kOg != ddnet

oh, right. well i've got here from kog site ... so I thought it's kog. sorry. I'll try again. Thanks! <3

[quakenet] spirit

I've changed ISP and now when I connect to kog servers i am auto banned for using vpn (i'm not).

are you from Russia?

so like player-submitted demos, check the time to verify if it matches the player's official time and voila

no

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avoids the shitshow from people who dont want to share strats because they decide if they want to share them

10:07

@Learath2 what do you think abt it?

M Emile

avoids the shitshow from people who dont want to share strats because they decide if they want to share them

I'm pretty sure we have consensus that we want all demos public, a couple dissenters won't really change that

M Emile

@Learath2 what do you think abt it?

I'm not against it, but I don't think I'll be the one to make it

if its not too much work to make, just a page to submit them should be good enough for it. Otherwise waiting to have server demos will take ages

Siraxa

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5449 Skins.tw skins download option

I have seen you implemented another database for "Community skins", would be great to add also one from skins.tw web https://skins.tw/

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Written a unit test if it works standalone, system.c especially
[ ] Considered possible null pointers and out of bounds array indexing
[ ] Changed no physics that affect ex...

cl_skin_download_url https://api.skins.tw/api/resolve/skins/

11:43

cl_download_skins 1

11:44

cant you just do that?

Broso56

cl_skin_download_url https://api.skins.tw/api/resolve/skins/

not rly, especially new players has no clue there is some skins.tw

i mean sure, i guess. but the functionality is already there

Broso56

i mean sure, i guess. but the functionality is already there

with that command I cant use ddnet database anymore

unless this does something else, im just going off of the description

11:53

oh really?

ye you can choose ddnet or skins.tw, with that PR both works at same time (edited)

ah

Mh, not a huge fan of including a service we have no control over

Learath2

Mh, not a huge fan of including a service we have no control over

‍♂️ its off by default and can possibly put some warning message

or make your community db then open so everyone can upload skins freely without restrictions like on skins.tw

No restrictions = swastikatee

12:00

No thank you

find me swastikatee on skins.tw btw

Community db has little to no restrictions, dont put your name on it, dont put hatespeech on it

Axaris

find me swastikatee on skins.tw btw

Could it perhaps be that, they have restrictions I wonder

ye I guess still its much more friendly service then yours community one so I tried.. I let decision on u

(edited)

They have an upload button and postmoderate, we have a discord channel and premoderate. Not very different imo. Anyway I might be okay with your PR if we put a warning sign saying it's third party

Learath2

They have an upload button and postmoderate, we have a discord channel and premoderate. Not very different imo. Anyway I might be okay with your PR if we put a warning sign saying it's third party

will look on way how to add it

We already have to deal with people thinking we moderate kog and even without a button in the client some people already think we moderate skins.tw too

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@Learath2 is just text change "Download skins.tw skins" -> "Skins.tw skins (3rd party)" ok?

c0d3d3v

You could implement a colorblind option that forbids some not distinguishable colors from rendering

No, I could not.

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12:13

And sad that u got so mad but k

Axaris

@Learath2 is just text change "Download skins.tw skins" -> "Skins.tw skins (3rd party)" ok?

Sure, if it fits there

1

fokkonaut

No, I could not.

Hm, you could probably do this even in a shader

Not me tho

Ok

I dont know what colors are hard to differentiate for others, since my colorblindness is quite high while I still can see colors

12:26

Its not as easy as you think xd

12:26

Most of the time there are even different modes in the settings for color blind people

12:27

But I have actually never used them

I'd think colorblindness is fairly documented now and the filters other games use mostly known

yes

what's the new config dir for linux and macos called?

14:34

path*

~/local/share/ddnet i think?

ah, .local

14:37

hm on macos it's still the same I guess

14:38

ah no, the path is still the same, just the directory was renamed to DDNet similar to windows (edited)

Hello

16:28

my name is kaic, i am a brazilian c++ programmer and i wanted to participate in the development

Kaic

my name is kaic, i am a brazilian c++ programmer and i wanted to participate in the development

ddnet is open source, you can participate whenever you want https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet

GitHub - ddnet/ddnet: DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Te...

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - GitHub - ddnet/ddnet: DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds

i know, i could find this out on github somehow, but when does the master get released?

a good first task would be updating the client to the 0.7 protocol

_

hrhrhr

16:54

in a few days @cauldron https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/5416

Version 16.2 by def- · Pull Request #5416 · ddnet/ddnet

DDNet 16.2 is supposed to release in 1 week, assuming no bad bugs are found. Please test the Release Candidate to prevent problems being only discovered after release. Report bugs in the #bugs chan...

but, which master is it? i guess not the one with my pr

16:54

but an earlier state of it

there is only 1 master

but different states

16:55

okay i guess the newest master gets released

i assume this pr would be merged and then it takes the current state at merge

also i can find this out on teeworlds.com i guess, but what was the intention with 0.7?

wdym by intention

16:57

you mean why break the protocol?

it has breaking changes as i understand, so why change something? what does it better, what got changed

i think there a few things that piled up over the years that would break the protocol so they got put into one major release

16:57

you can not rename in game anymore

16:58

some security token thingies (but ddnet also manged to get those into 0.6)

okay i check out changelog on teeworlds.com

colored broadcast

16:58

new skin system

16:58

ready state that can be sent from client

16:58

the server sends info on who is spectating you

but isn't there a network protocol thing so you can't connect to servers vice versa?

some refactor of what is in the snap and what isnt

0.6 client -> 0.7 server and vice versa

well as i said there are some tokens now and those are required and a vanilla 0.6 cleint does not have those