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I think it's actually the mitigation by OS

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or it's caused by some other combination of hardware and the nanosecond change that's unrelated to spectre (edited)

You could disable the spectre mitigations and see if that's the issue

you can't disable them on AMD

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not easily atleast

01:36

I'll try to find someone with on intel who can test it

I dunno. It's more likely there are rounding issues i think

i find it hard to believe its spectre

Would destroy all usefulness of any time measurement xd

fokkonaut

0.7 does

0.7 does what?

Robyt3

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5350 Initialize g_Config in tools too (fixes #5349)

fokkonaut

0.7 does

the error function only returns true if it could not unpack the ints before... that should not happen.

can we ban tune zone messages for new maps?

09:30

they're not localizable

heinrich5991

can we ban tune zone messages for new maps?

Maps should indeed make it clear what a tunezone does without to have to look into the chat. Material layer could help in this situation by adding context to the entities. But the mapper would still have to help the players in the tile/quad layer.

heinrich5991

they're not localizable

I theory they could be made localizable xD but would require a lot of work.

but then it'd be on the mapper to provide the translations

Not if we would lazy load translation

please explain

but to much work, for something that should be explained in the tile layer

10:57

with illustations

10:58

or something

yes

that you do not have to read

heinrich5991

please explain

making tuning msg translations separate from the map, (could also in theory include game menu translations, but that would add extra complexity). And load them into the client on request.

I don't see how this improves upon storing them in the map

simpler version would be to localize messages for the new material layer. And force new maps to use standard materials from material layers, and only tune layer if really needed

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5297 Should we use forward-declarations in header files?

This would require the materials wanted by the tune layer to be present, also even if you have a tune layer with the same tuning values as a material, they might have slightly different physics on the edges

c0d3d3v

Maps should indeed make it clear what a tunezone does without to have to look into the chat. Material layer could help in this situation by adding context to the entities. But the mapper would still have to help the players in the tile/quad layer.

^this

lets add a translator greenthing

automatic translation doesn't really work well, if that's what you're talking about

they never work well

Hi tees! I've switched to new ISP and now I can't connect to KoG servers. It thinks I use vpn. Any idea how to get out of this blacklist?

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yes, use a vpn that is not detected

I don't want to use vpn

check out their discord

11:20

we don't have influence over their servers (or their vpn detection)

Oh, ok I'll try to reach them. Thanks ❤️

I have a question: If you add a sound, does the netcode change? Because I know that files are generated and Some of them are only client sided

some sounds are played on events emitted by the server, others are generated in the client. Depends on the event for that you want the sound (edited)

and where is this defined? To me it looks like the server can send any sound, even the menu music

yes, it can send the menu music

12:45

some servers used that

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wtf

c0d3d3v

the error function only returns true if it could not unpack the ints before... that should not happen.

I am pretty sure error() returns true if there are unpacke bits

fokkonaut

I am pretty sure error() returns true if there are unpacke bits

at least i thought so

fokkonaut

I am pretty sure error() returns true if there are unpacke bits

I don't think so, let's look at the source code?

it was just that i worked with this and probably remembered it wrong then

12:53

cuz i added a tuning on the Clientside

12:54

in fclient, the jetpack strength

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And i had some troubles

then you had more unpacked then there is data

that's something different, in your case you're reading further than what's in the packet (edited)

ye true i get it xd

12:54

sry

heinrich5991

yes, it can send the menu music

Would it be okay if I refactor this into client sounds? similar to sprites, sounds that are not available in the netcode

and how would you then play jump sounds, and all other game sounds? (edited)

I don't quite get what you want to do. you want to have separate server-sent and non-server-sent sounds?

c0d3d3v

and how would you then play jump sounds, and all other game sounds? (edited)

not all of them, split into client/shared sounds

what sound do you think is client only, other then menu music? (edited)

heinrich5991

I don't quite get what you want to do. you want to have separate server-sent and non-server-sent sounds?

yes, I don't want every new introduced material to send their own sound on jump, hook, whatever

Do we predict weapon pickups?

murpi

Do we predict weapon pickups?

I think so

murpi

Do we predict weapon pickups?

xD yes

are you sure?

thats why new shields are buggy in old clients

I notice quite the delay when picking up weapons

12:58

(with high ping)

murpi

I notice quite the delay when picking up weapons

do you have antiping enabled?

I always play with antiping

murpi

I notice quite the delay when picking up weapons

auto pickup is not predicted nor serversided (edited)

ah, yeah auto pickup, thats what I meant

AssassinTee

yes, I don't want every new introduced material to send their own sound on jump, hook, whatever

ah, interesting question on how to deal with that

AssassinTee

yes, I don't want every new introduced material to send their own sound on jump, hook, whatever

why not :/ I see no problem with that.

c0d3d3v

what sound do you think is client only, other then menu music? (edited)

chat_server, chat_client, chat_highlight, and all sounds that are not send by the server, I would need to check tho (edited)

alternativlly we could predict events and play sound and effects in client. But I do not think that would be good,

c0d3d3v

why not :/ I see no problem with that.

Would be enough for the server to send hook@pos and the client to find out the sound

13:04

this is actually how it's handled rn

We also have a problem here again with old clients xD they will not have the sounds of new materials.

exactly

AssassinTee

this is actually how it's handled rn

you mean hook@pos? does it not differ between player hook, unhookable-tile hook, hookable-tile hook? (edited)

I just noticed, that hook sounds are played from the player pos

c0d3d3v

We also have a problem here again with old clients xD they will not have the sounds of new materials.

they would have bigger problems with new physics

c0d3d3v

why not :/ I see no problem with that.

guess that's the easiest solution

heinrich5991

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5411 Secure server connection

The current low-level protocol should be augmented or replaced by something that can give us cryptographic guarantees that we connect to the right server and that no one can listen to our chat messages, passwords or rcon passwords. This would also enable decentralized accounts (#3411) in a nice way. The client could simply authenticate against a shared secret of the connection, like in ssh. This way, the authentication cannot be spoofed, replayed or forwarded. This also allows to use re...

Is it possible to change save folder of .demo?

you can have the entire config directory in another location by removing add_path $USERDIR in storage.cfg and adding a different path there. But I haven't tried it. Alternatively maybe you can do a symbolic link on Windows so that the demo directory links to another directory

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thx!

If you figure out a way that actually works, maybe write a small tutorial and put it on ddnet forum or steam workshop. With the size of demos I can imagine more people have this problem

Does someone know what CFlow is? https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/blob/master/src/game/client/components/flow.cpp

teeworlds/flow.cpp at master · teeworlds/teeworlds

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15:37

In DDNet it is seems to be an unused class

use git blame to find out

15:38

(or rather tig blame or the github UI)

I guess it is used to display lines where players and particles moved along.

15:38

But we removed the rendering of it

it was supposed to be a fluid physics simulation for particle effects

16:05

the main problem is that the game doesn't have particle effect that last for more than half a second

16:06

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2437

Make CFlow work · Issue #2437 · teeworlds/teeworlds

CFlow is effectively unused since 0.5. Only Add and Update are called. Neither Get nor DbgRender are used, making these calculations effectively useless. The related config var is commented out //M...

@Learath2 can you pr your changes

The ones in the skin thing @Jupstar ✪?

yeah

Learath2

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

08b8018 Polyfills for str_ends_with and str_contains - Learath2

@Jupstar ✪ ^^

ty

Jupeyy

[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request opened: #198 Only allow UHD skin after non UHD skin was added

@Jupstar ✪ could you maybe let them upload UHD and non-UHD in one request?

does php provide a good PNG resizer?

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as good as gimp

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with anti aliasing etc.

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then yes

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or u mean upload two images?

you have access to imagemagick in PHP, but I meant upload two images

the add popup should stay active after uploading one skin, so u just need to set the new skin and check is uhd D:

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but yeah maybe someday

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QOL

you also have access to gd which has aa for scaling and stuff iirc, though gmagick/imagemagick probably also do

ok good to know

16:26

i think it broke again

Hm, I might have made a typo there

Learath2

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

14d3e04 Misread return of substr_compare - Learath2

@louis that should fix it

why is glowfox in normal tho

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before u add them all, is that intended?

i forgot to

16:33

xd change that thing

u can just upload them agian it should automatically remove them from normal

oh it woudl be nice to be able to change from normal to community and back with the change button

u dont need to delete them

ok

i didnt add that bcs it needs to mirror the skins

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here are SVG versions for them, made by @mind btw

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[ddnet/ddnet-web] Pull request closed: #198 Only allow UHD skin after non UHD skin was added

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[ddnet-web:master] 3 new commits

e7ef52f Only allow UHD skin after non UHD skin was added - Jupeyy 200aa0e Fix UHD sorting in table - Jupeyy 8509c7d Merge pull request #198 from Jupeyy/pr_only_uhd_after_normal - def-

@murpi Hello brother, let me tell you

16:58

Can someone teach me how to make SQL?

16:58

I'm old internet

https://oberstar.eu.org/share/Documents/The-Manga-guide-to-databases.pdf

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ez

Robyt3

https://github.com/teeworlds/teeworlds/issues/2437

that is so nice, would be cool if we add it back in if we add map particle emitters @Ravie watch this https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/video/teewars8.ogm https://heinrich5991.de/teeworlds/video/teewars9.ogm

yeah cool

the good times when vanilla was cool, and still called teewars xd

since we calculate the vector field anyway we could also add it to the smoke trail already ^^ but I think adding it to the particle emitters would make more sense (edited)

yeah would be so cool to see this when jumping smoke above a campfire or through a waterfall

YOO that explosion overlay thing is a nice touch

deen

https://oberstar.eu.org/share/Documents/The-Manga-guide-to-databases.pdf

This is surprisingly decent too

For whatever reason he wrote it left to right though, which is throwing me off quite a bit

@Ravie If you want to trying to fine tune (or only test) the new freeze particles, here is my branch: https://github.com/C0D3D3V/ddnet/tree/remove_info_messages_for_old_clients important is this: https://github.com/C0D3D3V/ddnet/blob/83633b6892c6297e6908a273d4828c4a4d834f27/src/game/client/components/effects.cpp#L82-L102 and CParticles::Update and CParticles::RenderGroup if you want to add properties. (edited)

nice, I'll check it in a bit

Ravie

nice, I'll check it in a bit

if you want to test it with your snow flake https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/295908390956433410/984922652810555452 you have to change the top left snow flake, in extra.png. If you have decided for one you can send me a png with only that snow flake (but also in 512x512) (edited)

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5346 Change default zoom to 8

https://github.com/C0D3D3V/ddnet/runs/6886091136?check_suite_focus=true#step:4:162 does someone know how this error can happen xD

Check clang-tidy · C0D3D3V/ddnet@f5ddd5c

DDraceNetwork, a cooperative racing mod of Teeworlds - Check clang-tidy · C0D3D3V/ddnet@f5ddd5c

u forgot to add a file

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to data

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

b3a3604 Remove namespace tw - heinrich5991 caf889d Merge #5406 - bors[bot]

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bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5406 Remove namespace tw

Jupstar ✪

to data

to what data?

data directory

18:01

do git status

or you added it in the wrong order

deen

or you added it in the wrong order

ah

isnt there an extra error for that

there is a forced order xD I just used alphabetic ordering

alphabetically wrong

c0d3d3v

there is a forced order xD I just used alphabetic ordering

so e comes before d ?

if you do alphabetic you need to be careful to use the ascii order, not locale order, vscode refuses to sort it properly :/

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Aha, that's wronger

Jupstar ✪

so e comes before d ?

hmpf .. in my world

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maybe

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xD

can we get a mod on 185.11.142.197:8320 ?

Learath2

if you do alphabetic you need to be careful to use the ascii order, not locale order, vscode refuses to sort it properly :/

yeah annoying, my file browser and vscode use different sorting

thats why I did not use vscode ordering for that xD but turned brain off ^^

or change the cmake setting to correspond to vscode one, might be easier for most people to do this automatically

ChillerDragon sent u a mod

deen

or change the cmake setting to correspond to vscode one, might be easier for most people to do this automatically

Problem is vscode uses locale-specific sort, idk if that's available in cmake

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besides the order would change by locale, idk how we'd handle that

deen

or change the cmake setting to correspond to vscode one, might be easier for most people to do this automatically

or just tell exactly what ordering is wrong for the cmake file, bcs potatos like me read it xd

Learath2

Problem is vscode uses locale-specific sort, idk if that's available in cmake

or we find out how to change the sorting alg in vs-code

There is a sorting plugin that doesn't seem to use locale-specific sorting

https://twitter.com/gitlost/status/1536773220560429058

Developers Swearing (@gitlost)

this bitch actually cannot code to save his life #59652b6 was dodgy but the "fix" was also shit

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XD

bors[bot]

[ddnet:master] 9 new commits

de76fbf Remove existing joystick implementation - Robyt3 8757b1f Add joystick support to engine - Robyt3 55d48db Integrate joystick with game controls and menus/editor UI - Robyt3 0cbd2ab Remove unused DoSettingsControlsButtons parameter ScopeView - Robyt3 08edc45 Add CUIEx::DoScrollbarOption and IScrollbarScale - Robyt3 8f5dc3f Add CUIEx::DoScrollbarOptionLabeled - Robyt3 58e1e39 Add joystick settings to menu, split mouse and movement settings - Robyt3 e72e276 Allow out of range (joystick sens.) values with DoScrollbarOption - Robyt3 89e0450 Merge #5374 - bors[bot]

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bors[bot]

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5374 Joystick support

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@Learath2 thanks arrived

def-

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5412 Add translations for 16.2

Translated German while at it !Screenshot 2022-06-14 at 20 31 27 !Screenshot 2022-06-14 at 20 31 08

Checklist

[x] Tested the change ingame
[x] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related configuration options
[ ] Wr...

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def-

[ddnet:16.2-rc1] 2 new commits

46009e0 Add translations for 16.2 - def- 073fd3f Version 16.2 - def-

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def-

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

bba3e17 Update translation status for upcoming 16.2 - def-

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AssassinTee

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5413 Draft: Implement bouncy slime material

Bouncy tiles come in 2 strengths, each full, vertical and horizontal, so 6 materials over all. Gives me the feeling of being in a bouncy castle

️‍♂️ Unfortunatly no visuals and sound yet

!screenshot_2022-06-14_20-31-19 closes #5124 requires #5313 and #5398

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in ...

@Learath2 do u have a webkit browser installed?

@Jupstar ✪ I do but I don't have access to it rn as its on linux and I'm booted to windows

Learath2

@Jupstar ✪ I do but I don't have access to it rn as its on linux and I'm booted to windows

on windows u have edge xd