DDraceNetwork - questions

c0d3d3v

you trolling me xD the projetil gets tuned... so it needs to be spwaned in the tune

wtf i didnt know that

05:34

interesting

how to prevent dummy from switching weapons while hammer flying?

09:46

or rather how to switch to hammer with a bind

everytime it switches to another weapon try to set it to hammer and continue firing

it toggles between hammer and shotgun sometimes

pilonpl

it toggles between hammer and shotgun sometimes

check what value cl_restore_weapon has

09:55

Then change it to 1 or 0

Its not the exact name of the setting but something like that

Darius - ;v

thx

do demos record the entire map or only my view?

pilonpl

do demos record the entire map or only my view?

only ur view

11:06

btw it depends on mode

11:06

if u use /showall it will record entire map

this should be on by default lol

It increases server bandwidth, client cpu usage significantly

11:08

We had it on for a while and noticed that

11:09

You can use the "Run on join" command in ddnet settings tab and write "showall 1" in there to always have it

btw is it possible to move the camera in the demo viewer?

Yes, right shift

11:11

and you can select another player or free view

deen

It increases server bandwidth, client cpu usage significantly

well, for me it seems to change nothing lol

full server?

46 players

for me bandwidth goes from 70 kbit/s to 200 kbit/s on 64 player server

11:19

and fps from 1200 to 800 (edited)

for me no change lol

11:25

bandwidth is pretty much free anyways

Maybe you're GPU-limited, not CPU

11:26

We pay for bandwidth on servers

deen

Maybe you're GPU-limited, not CPU

of course

It depends on the map, if the map has fancy graphics probably no change

multeasymap lol

I'm also afraid for people with bad network connections it can cause problems

11:27

The few people who want to have demos of every player on server should just set showall 1 in their "run on join"

it probably affects the size of demos significantly

11:32

does every demo contain also the map?

pilonpl

does every demo contain also the map?

Yes.

Omg

11:38

That's a little bit inefficient

server demos don't contain map exactly for that reason

You can strip the map out of a demo, I think we had some tool for it

Compression is very effective for demos

deen

and fps from 1200 to 800 (edited)

fps drops probably because we render more stuff that is not part of the view. Could probably be fixed, by clipping more client-sided. Also the bandwidth only increases significat on maps that constantly generates new stuff, like explotions, or where thinks are moving. Some players do not increase the bandwidth that much @pilonpl

3x increase was on Multeasymap, no explosions, moving things etc

first without showall, second with so yes it increases, like 5x... but if you have explotions and moving stuff it is much more

13:24

also average is only twice, but I do not know how its calculated xD seems to be little off somtimes

13:25

I also do not like to make it default. But there is room to improve the rendering

13:27

stars are btw also like explotions... so a lot of players on the map -> that are in freeze constantly generating data

I thought we wanted to remove stars btw

deen

I thought we wanted to remove stars btw

working on it

13:32

on Space & Time you get for example >700kbps and not even everything is send :DD all the explotions are stripped somehow

13:32

with only 1 player

Space & Time 2 was the main reason I disabled this again

It was causing huge CPU load on server, client, and bandwidth too

deen

I thought we wanted to remove stars btw

I had first made the changes to just not sending them if you have a new client. But then I thought, since some players said they do not like the freeze bar, it would be nice to letting them still see the stars if they turn of the freeze-bar. So now I evaluation two options, creating them in the client, or just send the option for freezebar with some other flags to the server, to let the client choose if he wants stars or not. Generating the stars in the client is kind of a bad solution, because it would be similar to the double jump, that is currently generated in the client, that is not always generated or wrong generated

Not more options again

13:40

The bar is clearly nicer than the damage indicator stars

I think the client should most of the time only display what the server wants... So I would not like to generate stuff in the client.

yes

i think options are unavoidable for that

Why not switch everyone to the bar?

the way it currently works, some times stars can help

13:42

cause you cant see the individual ticks of the bar while inside freeze

louis

cause you cant see the individual ticks of the bar while inside freeze

there was a request by juppy to always display the bar

13:43

that would also show it inside freeze

yes that would be great for me

13:43

is the bar serverside at all?

deen

Why not switch everyone to the bar?

So I remove the option for the freeze bar? And what about the stars should I just send those only for old clients? And if then after the release people prefer to have stars, we would only then work on that?

louis

is the bar serverside at all?

it gets the information to display, client predicts some of the freeze stuff too... (edited)

louis

is the bar serverside at all?

what do you mean xD It is rendered in the client ^^, there is no need to generate a freeze bar. The client just uses the freeze information and turn it into a bar

yeah i meant like the info stuff nvm

I wanted to add two flags to one message package that we send anyway for showothers. 1. If the new hud is aktiv -> then I do not send the info messages e.g. "you are in a solo part" 2. freeze bar is active -> then I do not send stars

13:49

if we just remove these options to not allow disabling the new hud, I would not need these flags

13:50

But the code would still be there, because of old clients xD

c0d3d3v

So I remove the option for the freeze bar? And what about the stars should I just send those only for old clients? And if then after the release people prefer to have stars, we would only then work on that?

in my opinion yes. And people will definitely complain after the release, they always do. Give them a few weeks to get used to it

deen

in my opinion yes. And people will definitely complain after the release, they always do. Give them a few weeks to get used to it

But you want it for old clients? Or do you want to get rid of the feature completly?

13:54

the stars

13:54

including vanilla

13:55

we could support it for a year or so for old clients, and then could remove the code... to not maintain old versions to long

For old clients we should keep it as is, they have no other indicator of unfreeze time

mh ok

stars are kinda bad

15:15

sometimes it will just not display correct number of stars

is there an ETA on staff applications being reopened?

no

deen

For old clients we should keep it as is, they have no other indicator of unfreeze time

how about the ninja stars?

same imo

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deen

server demos don't contain map exactly for that reason

Would be great if the same optimization was implemented on the client side

Can som1 help me ? Il trying to host and this happen : [2022-06-07 22:16:47][register]: ERROR: the master server reports that clients can not connect to this server. [2022-06-07 22:16:47][register]: ERROR: configure your firewall/nat to let through udp on port 8306.

Pinksky

Can som1 help me ? Il trying to host and this happen : [2022-06-07 22:16:47][register]: ERROR: the master server reports that clients can not connect to this server. [2022-06-07 22:16:47][register]: ERROR: configure your firewall/nat to let through udp on port 8306.

you need to open the udp port 8306 on your router (edited)

20:04

or use hamachi or some other VPS service to only host for your friends

c0d3d3v

you need to open the udp port 8306 on your router (edited)

I'm helping a friend who uses avoro, and i dont find how

pilonpl

Would be great if the same optimization was implemented on the client side

too annoying when you can't get map file easily

Pinksky

I'm helping a friend who uses avoro, and i dont find how

can you connect to the server with ip:8306 manually?

nvm, its ok now

Pinksky

nvm, its ok now

you can also host on https://trashmap.ddnet.tw/ a temporary server or you can look here https://portforward.com/how-to-port-forward/ there are a lot of routers listed and explained how to enable port forwarding (edited)

Hi there, i have a question... how do i make skins for skin database?

some kind of vector graphic editing software. Adobe Illustrator, Inkscape, something like that

does anyone have a default tee svg

@lynn https://github.com/ChillerDragon/ddnet-data-svg/blob/main/skins/default.svg uwu

ddnet-data-svg/default.svg at main · ChillerDragon/ddnet-data-svg

Contribute to ChillerDragon/ddnet-data-svg development by creating an account on GitHub.

23:40

or did you want an assembled one?

oh cool

Learath2

@lynn https://github.com/ChillerDragon/ddnet-data-svg/blob/main/skins/default.svg uwu

uwu

23:42

nah skin form