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Between 2022-05-18 00:00:00Z and 2022-05-19 00:00:00Z

i'm trying to add a new tile

00:33

is the collision for hookable+unhookable separated from the collision for other ddnet tiles?

i have no idea for physic stuff

u cant add slime block without add gel first

louis

is the collision for hookable+unhookable separated from the collision for other ddnet tiles?

look up mapitems.h/.cpp

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5139 Mark all overridden functions with `override`

07:12

[ddnet:master] 6 new commits

5947755 Fix unread variable clang-tidy warning on macOS - def- 8d5693d Enable clang-tidy's modernize-use-override (fixes #5139) - def- 583d6e6 Mark virtual function as override using a script: - Chairn 3a659ad Added -Wsuggest-override flag - Chairn 402cccf Add override in code behind CONF_DISCORD, disable clang-tidy check - def- bae4324 Merge #5140 - bors[bot]

07:12

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5140 Enable clang-tidy's modernize-use-override (fixes #5139)

07:12

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5025 Always show dragger/hook when attached far away

[ddnet:pr_ddnet_stun] 4 new commits

6977bdc Make NETADDR forward-declarable - heinrich5991 407644d Change IClient::ServerAddress to give the actual server address - heinrich5991 ec45a73 Add bare-bones STUN protocol support - heinrich5991 4fb050c Use STUN to determine UDP connectivity and show diagnostics - heinrich5991

07:21

[ddnet/ddnet] New branch created: pr_ddnet_stun

07:27

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5083 Use libevent for HTTP callbacks?

07:27

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5031 json.c:402:65: runtime error: applying non-zero offset 8 to null pointer

07:31

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue closed: #5136 Don't enable the GNU Gold Linker by default

07:31

[ddnet:master] 5 new commits

bbb1b42 Fix -Walloc-size-larger-than= in maplayers.cpp - def- dc03f41 Disable IPO on mingw win32 - def- ee36c54 No IPO by default in DEV builds - def- 831f892 No gold preference (fixes #5136) - def- 3d6e683 Merge #5133 #5138 - bors[bot]

07:31

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5138 No gold preference (fixes #5136)

07:31

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5133 Fix IPO build problems

louis

is the collision for hookable+unhookable separated from the collision for other ddnet tiles?

yes, for prediction reasons you would need to place un/hook with game and another tile with front on top. like hookthrough or teleport weapons block.

07:59

Then you need to check each entity that should bounce on it and make it bouncable.

08:00

I think there are tuning settings for bouncyness already, look how they made it maxbe

[ddnet:master] 5 new commits

6977bdc Make NETADDR forward-declarable - heinrich5991 407644d Change IClient::ServerAddress to give the actual server address - heinrich5991 ec45a73 Add bare-bones STUN protocol support - heinrich5991 4fb050c Use STUN to determine UDP connectivity and show diagnostics - heinrich5991 53d77e8 Merge #5119 - bors[bot]

08:03

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5119 Use STUN to determine UDP connectivity and show diagnostics

Hello! does anyone have a script that gets the server_settings embedded in a map file?

config_store

08:36

to store it, and config_retrieve to get it out

08:36

they should be next to DDNet.exe

Thanks, got it to work :D

Ravie

@Ronan throughout the translation is used je/jouw except line 1121 which uses u, not a big deal I guess tho

I'd have to look into Sie usage in german.txt

don't use Sie in german

09:40

it sounds too formal for the game context

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5143 Crash on alt-tab with OpenGL 3.3

[2022-05-17 20:06:28][datafile]: loading done. datafile='downloadedmaps/RedCastle2_de71ee62.map'
[2022-05-17 20:06:28][client]: loaded map 'downloadedmaps/RedCastle2_de71ee62.map'
[2022-05-17 20:06:28][client/network]: loading done
[2022-05-17 20:06:28][textrender]: Found non empty text container with index 992
[2022-05-17 20:06:28][assert]: /home/deen/isos/ddnet/ddnet-source/src/engine/client/text.cpp(1912): text container was not empty

Doesn't happen with OpenGL 3.0, reported...

Why are office programs so heavy? Is it something about the nature of the programs? They don't really do anything that fancy, do they?

maybe actually nothing fancy. but they do have to conform to every expectation the user has, maybe that makes them a bit bloated?

millions of features, more requirements over decades of development

there's no incentive for them to be fast or light past a reasonable point

has it always been the case that movers on the left and top seem to center the objects correctly, but on the right and bottom they change direction too early?

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yes

13:48

nice map you screenshotted right there

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I might one day try to make a very light office suite, just to see how quickly it gets bogged down by bloat

fokkonaut

yes

how much damage would it do it we fix it on a scale from 0 to 10 (edited)

depends on the map that use this

13:56

we would need to check that

same for every physics changes / changes that can affect maps/runs

remove hearts from game

it would probably be right to fix it, but heinrich would definitely need to check maps

why are hearts just glorified freeze anyways?

why not?

13:59

why do shields remove weapons (edited)

13:59

why is shotgun a laser in ddrace

13:59

its just that ddrace is a mod of tw so it uses things that are available for things that suite the gametype

but hearts are useless

13:59

let's be real

no

14:00

moving freeze

i wish people would use that more tho

pickups have an hit-radius of 20 so if the pickup is not middle on the block, but left or at the top and a tee would be on the block right next to it, then the pickups would just hit the tee with a hit-radius of 28, but very perfect on the unit exactly xD I will test it out. If this is the case we do not need to check maps because it would not change anything right?

a pickup can affect a tee through one block, yes

14:05

if exactly on the edge

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@heinrich5991 whats your opinion? do we need to check maps? i think main reason would be because maybe spots of moving entities are now covered with the entity, leading to some skips or whatever being impossible. i doubt that any map uses this in any way, but we would still need to check i guess

probably unfixable, because it was like this so long... maps even changed there tile layer to it like in cavefly:

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14:14

Whoever implemented this and did not test it deserves a medal for unsatisfying programming

(edited)

[ddnet/ddnet] Issue opened: #5144 restart command and then go through start

sometimes ends up without time. I think we never used restart on official servers Reported by teini94

c0d3d3v

probably unfixable, because it was like this so long... maps even changed there tile layer to it like in cavefly:

i did the same in a map of mine

fokkonaut

i did the same in a map of mine

ah xD had only entities on^^ sorry

not in blmapchill, thats not mapped by me xd

ah ok

binary tree does exist, nature is beautiful

https://i.redd.it/xkbxy30pd6091.png

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/home/runner/work/ddnet/ddnet/src/engine/shared/http.cpp:307:77: error: both sides of operator are equivalent [misc-redundant-expression,-warnings-as-errors]
        static_assert(std::numeric_limits<std::underlying_type_t<CURLcode>>::min() >= std::numeric_limits<unsigned int>::min() &&

How is this redundant? Does clang-tidy have some arcane knowledge here?

https://twitter.com/gitlost/status/1526956285664669696

Developers Swearing (@gitlost)

fuck...I wanna fuck github..lol...fuck

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xd

16:16

Unfiltered commit messages containing profanity from GitHub's API

16:16

best twitter acc

16:17

https://twitter.com/gitlost/status/1526532491292598274

Developers Swearing (@gitlost)

tokenizer done - gotta fix the fucking leaks

16:17

spotted a c dev

hmm. do you want to say that CURLcode is unsigned?

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@Learath2 presumably clang-tidy sees through CURLcode and sees that it's actually unsigned, so you have static_assert(a >= a) for some a

16:21

but clang-tidy doesn't take into account that it might not be unsigned in some build configuration

No I want to make sure that the type we used in the function unsigned int (since we can't have the include in http.h) can represent all the values of CURLcode I'm not really interested in anything else

yes

16:22

just disable the check for these lines I guess

16:22

it assumes that CURLcode is a typedef that will never change

16:22

but you want to test this assumption

Makes sense, thanks

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request opened: #5145 Put assert for text containers after printing all non empty text cont…

…ainers No idea how to reproduce this, gerdoe also has this and send me his config, but no chance Tho since the text container index is so high, i kinda assume its not the only non cleared text container. Maybe estimating the character count based on the quads used can also help, since then i can see what text is potentially the cause

Checklist

[ ] Tested the change ingame
[ ] Provided screenshots if it is a visual change
[ ] Tested in combination with possibly related c...

@Jupstar ✪ u can write shaders in rust https://github.com/EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu

GitHub - EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu:

Making Rust a first-class langua...

Making Rust a first-class language and ecosystem for GPU shaders

- GitHub - EmbarkStudios/rust-gpu:

Making Rust a first-class language and ecosystem for GPU shaders

16:32

PepeA

nice

i guess spir-v is like webasm for gpus

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thanks to it u can use any language

16:33

that compiles to it

when templates in shaders xd

16:34

real double support would be cool

16:35

high precision teeworlds (totally not overkill™️)

But why do all rust developers have emojis in their project descriptions?

not all

16:37

its all marketing at the end, if more ppl use ur project it will grow and get better

DDNet a multiplayer

‍

‍

racing

game

️. Completely open source

we should do that

16:38

add emojiss to github

pepeW

️ DDNet Racing game

️

16:40

beantyping

Completely ✨ Open Source

lets add a client opening sequence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSliaQ3a_5Y

EA Sports - Its in the Game

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16:41

and then microtransactions xd

we kinda have a opening sequence

16:41

its just a static image

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well i mostly never see it cuz it loads fast for me

Jupstar ✪

lets add a client opening sequence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSliaQ3a_5Y

ive been tempted to make one LOL

1st april 2023 can come

[ddnet:master] 2 new commits

a7bc878 Put assert for text containers after printing all non empty text containers - Jupeyy 2c06c9c Merge #5145 - bors[bot]

16:51

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5145 Put assert for text containers after printing all non empty text cont…

Discord and spotify managed to somehow absolutely break my computer, I'm so glad we are living in the electron future

BASEDHALT

I'd like to take this moment to once again curse the person who came up with electron, may he rest in hell

obviously, quarks would perform way better

Learath2

I'd like to take this moment to once again curse the person who came up with electron, may he rest in hell

just strip javascript from it

https://github.com/ultralight-ux/ultralight

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GitHub - ultralight-ux/Ultralight: Next-generation HTML renderer fo...

Next-generation HTML renderer for apps and games. Contribute to ultralight-ux/Ultralight development by creating an account on GitHub.

17:12

electron has higher numbers, so it must be better xd

17:14

what a shitty license they have

17:14

minimal webkit pls thanks xd

Can we just not render glorified web pages for our apps instead? :/

but css is so poweful

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and easy

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and i bet most bloat from electron comes from javascript

I have a feeling it's how powerful it is that's making these browsers multi million LoC

possible yes

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tho its just UI

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i'd like to just be able to use html + css in any app

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bcs writing your own ui code always sucks

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look at teeworlds xD

Jupstar ✪

lets add a client opening sequence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSliaQ3a_5Y

It would be fire

[ddnet:master] 3 new commits

3c597af Switch to nanoseconds - Jupeyy a1fc561 No more system.h include in client.m - def- 6099877 Merge #5075 - bors[bot]

17:23

[ddnet/ddnet] Pull request closed: #5075 Switch to nanoseconds

Jupstar ✪

look at teeworlds xD

at least it looks unique and runs well

it looks like someone stole it from 1998

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17:33

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17:33

xdddd

I'll take it any day over some generic ass looking website that uses way more cpu than it should be legally allowed to

a static html site probs uses no CPU

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bcs these renderers are high optimized

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i am not talking about javascript

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i talk about HTML + CSS

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teeworlds uses immediate mode, that uses alot of cpu

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every frame

yet somehow it runs better

u got a benchmark?

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i doubt it runs much better than a webkit engine if you unthrottle it

why would you unthrottle tw tho

i mean the webkit engine

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both max fps

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both looking the same

ah well some websites don't need that in order to use 100% when asked to render some rounded rectangles xd

well i tried with firefox rn it sadly instantly stops using any GPU as soon as you dont trigger CSS animations but seems like it renders at around 1400 fps

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but as soon as it needs to update something it runs like crap xd

well 1400 fps

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sounds ok

17:45

good enough

[ddnet-web:master] 1 new commit

ba55762 Add donation by thekid36 - def-

that doesn't really look like one of those sites that I'm talking about tho, not enough rounded corner spam xD

xD

they have a certain generic feel and always run like crap

well imo ddnet has too many rounded corners, or bad usage

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round in round

17:52

but still i doubt its HTML + CSS its probs the javascript in the background

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e.g. facebook is a bloated javascript app

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thats why it runs so shitty

yeah that sounds right

17:53

it has to be some common framework thing or something

heyo, does anyone have or does anyone here know of a tool to convert standard teeworlds 0.7 maps back to 0.6? (edited)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/us85bb/i_wasnt_taught_about_this_loop/

r/ProgrammerHumor - i wasnt taught about this loop

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AssassinTee

heyo, does anyone have or does anyone here know of a tool to convert standard teeworlds 0.7 maps back to 0.6? (edited)

0.7 has a new envelope type, that is not compatible else just include vanilla assets as embedded and it should just work™️

while the map doesn't have any envelops, it doesn't work, it just loads the background (and nothing else) in 0.6 ddnet (edited)

0.7 maps don't load properly on 0.6

18:05

only 0.6 maps on 0.7 work

if u make the images embedded?

it's missing tile layers or so

mh ok

AssassinTee

while the map doesn't have any envelops, it doesn't work, it just loads the background (and nothing else) in 0.6 ddnet (edited)

what map is it?

18:07

else ping @Patiga , highest chance u get a convert tool

Jupstar ✪

if u make the images embedded?

didn't work

18:07

it's a ctf map I made for a mapping competition in 0.7 one or two years ago

18:08

From the same competition I would also like to convert other maps

yeah patiga best chance

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but interesting to know 0.7 allows 0.6 tile layers but not the other way around

I once thought about making a tool to convert maps into json and be able to export them in any type

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But I don't have the motivation rn

maybe patiga even did that

18:12

https://docs.rs/twmap/latest/twmap/

This crate provides a library for safe parsing, editing and saving of Teeworlds and DDNet maps. Goals of this library are:

@AssassinTee @Patiga's library can convert between 0.6 and 0.7 maps

@heinrich5991 yeah thank you, I found the project and an install guide: https://gitlab.com/Patiga/twmap/-/tree/master/twmap-tools#installation

twmap-tools · master · Patiga / twmap · GitLab

A Rust library for parsing, editing and saving Teeworlds and DDNet maps

@heinrich5991 @Patiga I managed to convert the map by exporting it to "MapDir" (map in directory format), changing the version manually from "teeworlds07" to "ddnet06" and exporting it again as a map. However this should be easier

write a shell script xd

18:53

chillerdragon will gladly help you

18:53

he invented bash

18:53

back when he was a baby, he had this one idea

i will write a python script

you can start bash-scripts from python, too

Hoi

AssassinTee

@heinrich5991 @Patiga I managed to convert the map by exporting it to "MapDir" (map in directory format), changing the version manually from "teeworlds07" to "ddnet06" and exporting it again as a map. However this should be easier

this is not directly supported in purpose, mostly because the external mapres are different between 0.6 and 0.7. most of the mapres would need to be embedded, because the versions are not backwards compatible and I have not yet implemented that into the tool there are also some other things each version has that the other doesnt support

19:42

I blame my typos on writng on mobile

19:42

hez @Deleted User :)

hez.. ;-;

@AssassinTee what do you need it for btw? if its a general use case I don't mind implementing it :)

@Patiga converting all (g)ctf maps from the competition for fastcap

19:47

You are right, I embedded all files before converting and replaced them after converting to 0.6 if possible

I'm glad that you were able to make sense of MapDir btw ;)

https://stackoverflow.blog/2022/05/16/stack-under-attack-what-we-learned-about-handling-ddos-attacks/

20:04

nothing particularly interesting in there for us, I think

can someone tell me how to complicate the server with cmake on windows 11?

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isn't it complicated enough already?

1

in the sense of how something adds to the source I can not complicate it with cmake (edited)

compile*

21:02

what are you trying to do and what doesn't work?

WhiteKitty

can someone tell me how to complicate the server with cmake on windows 11?

https://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?t=5765

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