Guild icon
DDraceNetwork
DDraceNetwork / general
This channel is for all Teeworlds/DDNet and related chat. Gameplay questions can be asked here as well rather than in #questions. Ingame screenshots and any other Teeworlds related media goes to #showroom.
Between 2022-05-15 00:00:00Z and 2022-05-16 00:00:00Z
Avatar
Avatar
Ta!zenyuki
okok i dont get it how to get these in my game :x
ᶰ°Konͧsti 2022-05-15 07:53:10Z
u write in f1 ingame cl_skin_download_url https://skins.tee.world/
Avatar
☠𝕯𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖗 2.𝔒☠ 2022-05-15 08:06:37Z
Astero ka name rohit hai
Avatar
Avatar
Ta!zenyuki
are there any [download all] button? xD
i know there is something you can write in f1 to see them, i have done it but im not sure of what it is (edited)
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 09:27:25Z
@Nooback i hope u like kids mfer sunglasses_clown
09:29
@deen @murpi Who hosts the next tournament? gx_Pepe_Hmm
Avatar
No tournaments planned
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 09:31:01Z
Okay but will there be a next one
09:31
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 09:31:49Z
aight if there is one i'd like to donate 3 keys
09:32
bet
Avatar
what are keys?
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 09:32:27Z
steam keys
09:32
game keys
09:32
pepeclown
Avatar
Not necessary, you don't win anything for winning tournament
09:32
but thanks
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 09:32:56Z
Good day to you sir
09:33
gx_pepe_enjoy
Avatar
lots of ddos attacks have been happening recently so quite a lot of servers have been taken completely offline every few days (edited)
09:40
just stupid kids seeking attention or just trolling in general
Avatar
man i cant join ger2 while chroma is doing quick runs on weapon finlas
09:55
kek 2
Avatar
well i can
09:55
troll
09:58
nvm now i cant
Avatar
hello
Avatar
Avatar
deen
Not necessary, you don't win anything for winning tournament
i dont see the issue
10:03
its his choice to donate the prize
10:03
and whats the problem with the winner getting something?
Avatar
creates further incentive to attack tournament
Avatar
its gonna happen anyway
10:14
doesnt matter if we encourage it
10:14
itll happen anyway
Avatar
Why tournaments when every normal map release is already affected by Ddos? It's not cool for a mapper when ur tournament gets ddos and nobody want/can play it (edited)
Avatar
no one said or asked about having a tournament
Avatar
Well u talked about pointless key prizes in tournaments and when next (edited)
Avatar
I don't think tournament winners (who play teeworlds for 20 hours a day) need keys to other games gigachad
gigachad 3
Avatar
Especially random game keys xdd (edited)
Avatar
Avatar
Cøke
Especially random game keys xdd (edited)
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 10:26:38Z
They are not random u poopy profile pic Danklaugh
Avatar
Watch ur mouth yoloboy
10:27
Ur always rude
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 10:27:41Z
1. Planet Zoo 2.SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS: BATTLE FOR BIKINI BOTTOM - REHYDRATED 3.SPELLCASTER UNIVERSITY
Avatar
i want spongebob
Avatar
Avatar
Cøke
Ur always rude
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 10:28:10Z
i am only rude to those who i remember that are rude peepoPooPoo and i remember that you are always rude on every server
Avatar
Avatar
Im 'corneum
i want spongebob
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 10:28:32Z
i'm not giving them away only in tournament
Avatar
aaaw
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 10:28:49Z
Well technically i am giving them away
10:28
in the tournament
10:28
🧠
Avatar
How do you read your nickname I can't make out a single letter
Avatar
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg
i am only rude to those who i remember that are rude peepoPooPoo and i remember that you are always rude on every server
We do not know each other, everyone gets what he deserves
Avatar
Avatar
Cøke
We do not know each other, everyone gets what he deserves
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 10:29:44Z
dude litterally u know me
10:29
i know you
10:29
you know me
10:30
gx_LIAR
Avatar
U are the random key boy yes
10:30
Nothing more
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 10:30:27Z
u are the rude man with coal every christmascoal
10:30
roast
Avatar
You do not know me as I said xd
Avatar
I'll block u now
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 10:31:44Z
???
10:31
for
10:31
sure
10:32
i never once DM'd you will i will RDM you default
Avatar
@noby
10:46
@murpi noby is never online what should i do? (so sorry for ping)
Avatar
Direct Message him
10:48
or simply report trolls on his discord server: https://discord.gg/NZbgnWWa
Avatar
pseudofly is the worst technique ever born
Avatar
Avatar
cyberFighter
pseudofly is the worst technique ever born
why
Avatar
how tf do people do it without dummy just not doing hammer input randomly
11:00
failed ddos ?
Avatar
Football doesn't have spoofing protection
11:05
(pvp game modes in general don't have spoofing protection)
Avatar
Avatar
!ʎø1øʞıƝg
u are the rude man with coal every christmascoal
nah coke is The Map Tester (tm) at leadt to me
Avatar
Avatar
Voxel
nah coke is The Map Tester (tm) at leadt to me
!ʎø1øʞıƝg 2022-05-15 12:05:26Z
donutparrot
12:06
imagine having yellow color for a name gx_HeheBoi
Avatar
imagine having white color for a name
Avatar
Imagine
12:12
Plebs
13:59
what is super
Avatar
An rcon command which allows users to go into a mode where you can't get frozen and you have infinite jumps
14:01
You can walk thru teleports, freeze, kill tile in it
giftee_green 1
Avatar
do you have to keep "beta" binary in a separate folder oryou can just replace the actual one
Avatar
Avatar
bencie
An rcon command which allows users to go into a mode where you can't get frozen and you have infinite jumps
oh I see thanks
Avatar
Avatar
CHaBek
what is super
Avatar
Talking about super, there is an easy way to implement a way to make /practice in normal servers inmune to killtiles? Could be useful in some maps (edited)
Avatar
Avatar
0x314
Click to see attachment 🖼️
banhammer
Avatar
Avatar
Lagar
Talking about super, there is an easy way to implement a way to make /practice in normal servers inmune to killtiles? Could be useful in some maps (edited)
fucking true
Avatar
Avatar
Lagar
Talking about super, there is an easy way to implement a way to make /practice in normal servers inmune to killtiles? Could be useful in some maps (edited)
i did say thhhat on developer 2 month ago and thhey ignored
feelsbadman 1
Avatar
@deen i'm interested what a ddos safe srv for ger would cost in month
Avatar
5000 € / month
justatest 2
15:09
im out
Avatar
anyone rich here? x)
Avatar
or 500 poor ppl with 10€ xD
Avatar
im gonna be honest but whenever i want to play there is never ddos
Avatar
kickstarter or crowdfounding maybe xD
Avatar
get elon musk addicted
Avatar
whats the strategy to get his attention ?
Avatar
a good tweet
Avatar
about twitter ?
Avatar
Avatar
Yuzu
about twitter ?
new dogecoin skin in ddnet @elonmusk #dogecoin #ddnet
Avatar
Avatar
Yuzu
whats the strategy to get his attention ?
Avatar
add ads in chat as srv msg xD
15:21
good map btw xd
Avatar
ye random system messages
15:22
this server has been sponsored by raid
15:22
troll
Avatar
i think we just need to tell him he cant have it
15:22
"deen will never sell ddnet" then he will try
Avatar
"Y-Food the perfect meal for DDrace addicted"
Avatar
can't you guys make a better firewall? (edited)
Avatar
a capture before you enter the server, like on websites? 😄
Avatar
or just take help from @ReiTW, bombay is doing fine against ddoses
Avatar
do they get ddosed?
Avatar
Avatar
Rockus
can't you guys make a better firewall? (edited)
I've tried, and it works, until the attacker switches to a different kind of attack and overwhelms something else
Avatar
Avatar
Rockus
or just take help from @ReiTW, bombay is doing fine against ddoses
I'd appreciate any help
15:30
Have been publicly asking for help for a while now: https://hookrace.net/blog/dos-attacks-against-online-game/
Avatar
i think rei kinda explained on this discord what he did on his server to defend against ddoses
15:32
let me try to find it
15:33
idk how you could implement such thing on a big community like ddrace but
15:33
nothing is impossible xd
Avatar
nothing is impossible xd
with enough money*
Avatar
that doesn't refute what i said
Avatar
if its a lot of work to get onto a server as a normal player maybe get extra servers that have this feature and not all
Avatar
actually there are lot of impossible things
Avatar
i muted you
15:35
@Im 'corneum ye
Avatar
that'd be cool
15:35
but it used to be the store server for bombay
15:35
now it's a website
Avatar
Well there's many problems, and I am lucky to have 10gbps
15:38
But basically I would have done smth like:
  • Each player gets his IP pushed into a XDP hashmap after being at least 5mins ingame (this hashmap is used to whitelist people, every traffic from IPs not in the hashmap gets dropped)
  • Put a website as I've done with discord authentication for example, this allows people to still being able to whitelist even during an attack
Avatar
we need a special task force, who verify legit rankings - so everyone can host a ddnet srv and the rankings are stored in one xD
Avatar
And so you dynamically enable/disable protection based on received traffic (just do a xdp stats map & collect statistics about traffic received on specific ports for example)
Avatar
that's cool
Avatar
" Each player gets his IP pushed i..." this step is to keep players conencted when the attack starts
Avatar
why can't it be enabled all the time?
15:40
just curious
Avatar
because a whitelist is kinda annoying
15:40
imagine people always having to whitelist again
15:40
that's currently what is on bombay, I want to switch on that ^^^^ but I don't have that much time & kinda lazy, but it's not hard at all
Avatar
Avatar
ReiTW
imagine people always having to whitelist again
ye that would suck
15:42
xdd
Avatar
This isn't the main problem tho, vali is able to reach above 1Gbps
15:42
but at least having xdp in native mode does help the CPU
15:43
so u don't need a big machine like I have, I use my machine for many different things now
Avatar
release his personal informations. if we shot at him with 10ppl closed eyes, no one can say whos guilty
Avatar
"Each individual game server uses a single thread to handle all network packets, so it is still relatively easy and cheap for attackers to overload." cant you use more than 1 thread per game server ?
Avatar
Avatar
ReiTW
This isn't the main problem tho, vali is able to reach above 1Gbps
well, if ddnet implemented a solution like yours vali would be fucked, no?
Avatar
Avatar
Yuzu
release his personal informations. if we shot at him with 10ppl closed eyes, no one can say whos guilty
LOL, he's been doxxed already
Avatar
or make 'official servers' use more than 1 so that they become more resistant to attacks
Avatar
then vali would double the attacks on each server, no?
Avatar
Avatar
Rockus
then vali would double the attacks on each server, no?
he has to run out of money at some point?
Avatar
idk, he's been doing this since i started playing teeowrlds, back in 2016
Avatar
Avatar
Salmonιa
he has to run out of money at some point?
attacking is way cheaper than defending
Avatar
so money probably isn't a problem for him
Avatar
lol was thinking u are a oldschooler rockus
15:46
xd
Avatar
and destroying is easier than to build up (edited)
15:46
he sucks
Avatar
@Cøke well, if you count that time i played multimap when i was like 5 years old then you can count me as an og
15:47
gigachad
15:47
no, i said 2016
Avatar
maybe multithred helps but more threads dont mean the line will hold (edited)
15:47
if he can overload 10gbs
Avatar
but in reality i started fng i think in the middle of 2015
15:47
so i started in 2015
15:47
mb
Avatar
proxy servers
Avatar
@Jupstar ✪ merge it
Avatar
Avatar
Rockus
@Cøke well, if you count that time i played multimap when i was like 5 years old then you can count me as an og
Avatar
Avatar
Salmonιa
he has to run out of money at some point?
no, afaik he has money as he works with people on a stresser website
15:48
I think so
Avatar
Avatar
Ryozuki
if he can overload 10gbs
I've never seen him going above 10g for now
15:48
the max was 9.68gbps & my srv was fine, was a long time ago also
Avatar
could you queue connections ?
Avatar
Avatar
Cøke
Click to see attachment 🖼️
15:49
the real solution is to cut the fiber cables running to his house /s
Avatar
im sure he lives at parents house
Avatar
if you make a queue of connections attempt and let it flows while the game is trying to run and prioritising the game server being played by connected players
Avatar
  • to drive with a truck on his street, until he comes out
Avatar
I'd use my protection with a good small gcp server
15:50
that's the best ig
Avatar
would that allows servers to run while doing the connections
Avatar
honestly the proxy servers thing might be able to do it
Avatar
specially in that case, i dont think 100 players will all connect in one server
Avatar
@Ryozuki worth a try but ig vali will just attack all of them
Avatar
@ReiTW we can try to get 100 3€ vps
15:51
and use them all as proxy
15:51
xdd
Avatar
he'll just loop through each of them lol
Avatar
Coupled with an account system the idea would be that he'd never learn the ips of some of the proxies
Avatar
Avatar
Learath2
Coupled with an account system the idea would be that he'd never learn the ips of some of the proxies
do we rly have the opsec to hide a ip
15:52
xd
Avatar
account system tee_thinking
Avatar
Avatar
Ryozuki
do we rly have the opsec to hide a ip
Well ddnet.tw and db.ddnet.tw has been fine for a while now
Avatar
Avatar
Learath2
Coupled with an account system the idea would be that he'd never learn the ips of some of the proxies
what if he makes many accounts
Avatar
Avatar
Learath2
Well ddnet.tw and db.ddnet.tw has been fine for a while now
well but i mean for game servers
15:53
ultimately players gotta connect to those proxies
15:53
and players are the high risk group when it comes to leaking
Avatar
since defending is too hard, we should attack back
Avatar
there is nothing to attack
Avatar
What is the goal of the person who DoS the server?
Avatar
@Salmonιa destroy the game
Avatar
Avatar
Ryozuki
and players are the high risk group when it comes to leaking
Well my secret server experiment ran for almost a month, with 30-ish players, it didn't get leaked, so there is a trustworthy subset of players
Avatar
Avatar
Salmonιa
What is the goal of the person who DoS the server?
15:54
this image decribes it
Avatar
We can keep track of which accounts are playing on which proxies and keep track of how many times those proxies get attacked
Avatar
Avatar
Learath2
Well my secret server experiment ran for almost a month, with 30-ish players, it didn't get leaked, so there is a trustworthy subset of players
invite a few players in week xd
Avatar
looks like this needs lot of effort from a sysadmin point
15:55
to maintain
Avatar
It's a metric fuckton of both development and sysadmin effort, but it's the only solution we could think of that doesn't cost 5k euros per month per server
Avatar
Avatar
Salmonιa
What is the goal of the person who DoS the server?
brain damage
Avatar
lucky dev and sysadmin effort is free! aPES2_HeadScratch
Avatar
everyone should go to the local police and charge him
Avatar
I just don't understand if he has so much money that he destroys everything for fun or what reason
Avatar
Avatar
Yuzu
everyone should go to the local police and charge him
The police can't help you, especially if it's the Internet
15:57
You can't prove
Avatar
make a ddnet demonstration in germany
15:57
hisnail
Avatar
Avatar
Salmonιa
You can't prove
they could take his computer and search for it
15:59
then charge him for child porn
15:59
that would work
Avatar
Avatar
Yuzu
they could take his computer and search for it
Again, no one is going to do this for thousands of people.
Avatar
Avatar
Salmonιa
Again, no one is going to do this for thousands of people.
?
16:02
staff have his address and everything.
Avatar
Avatar
Ryozuki
make a ddnet demonstration in germany
deen future german president, & search for vali
Avatar
but there is no law in germany to blame him, if i remember correctly
Avatar
Avatar
Yuzu
staff have his address and everything.
There are thousands of people who swindle people for a lot of money on the Internet, and from the protection they use only FREE vpn and no one does anything about it, in our country at least, I do not think that in other countries is very different
Avatar
we could use his picture and address and everything and blame him for the ugliest things, we can imagine - on every platform
16:06
somewhen someone will do something
Avatar
I suggest we get together and beat the fuck out of him
Avatar
i join it
16:07
but i would like to let other ppl do the bad stuff, by lying to them
Avatar
vali is fr brain damaged, he's dedicated countless years of his life to annoy people playing a 2d game
Avatar
its not normal, he has some deep problems
Avatar
Avatar
Learath2
Well my secret server experiment ran for almost a month, with 30-ish players, it didn't get leaked, so there is a trustworthy subset of players
lcsg47EZ lcsg47Love
Avatar
isnt ddos like, illegal
Avatar
i would pay 10-20€ in month for my personal secret ddnet srv, hosted by u
Avatar
Avatar
Voxel
isnt ddos like, illegal
authorities do not care since ddnet doesnt earn anything
Avatar
sounds capitalist
Avatar
so create a founding company, wich supports to help nature by money. sponsored by players, who donate.
16:29
there u have a business and it gets illegal
Avatar
who would pay for ddnet, besides the annual server cost
Avatar
i mean, something like a company wich supports to help the rainforest
16:31
but in first line its ddnet
16:32
by attacking the company, wich is founded, it gets illegal
Avatar
i think players buying their own priv servs hosted by ddnet would be cool
Avatar
shut up and take my money
Avatar
Avatar
louis
i think players buying their own priv servs hosted by ddnet would be cool
Wouldn't that be difficult to support?
Avatar
but that wouldn't exactly help from ddos unless each server was a separate ip
16:33
yea
16:34
and i dont think ddnet likes secretive things either
Avatar
would be a bad evolution, yes
Avatar
if i get say 1000 spare dollars, im commisioning noby or someone to make the tee physics sim animation program
Avatar
guys send for me pls textures,emotions,skins,particles,im lost mine (edited)
Avatar
skins.tw has a ton for you!
Avatar
ty
Avatar
Avatar
Voxel
skins.tw has a ton for you!
And then people use textures like bencie use justatest
Avatar
you got a problem?
Avatar
Yea You got a problem mate?
Avatar
im ready to defend my textures with closed fists
Avatar
I'll help you bencie
Avatar
ILL HELP TOO
Avatar
@Salmonιa TALK YO SHIT
17:00
wtfisthis
Avatar
bencie -> gigachad
Avatar
@Rockus well said mostly everything, I use one secret thing to filter too, but heinrich knows that
Avatar
Avatar
Meekrioz
@Salmonιa TALK YO SHIT
what
Avatar
whats wrong with bencie textures justatest
Avatar
it looks like a dish of whatever you like
17:13
wait
17:13
is that an insult
Avatar
Avatar
ano
bencie -> gigachad
🙂
Avatar
Avatar
Salmonιa
it looks like a dish of whatever you like
u make better textures then
Avatar
BOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENAS
Avatar
Hello I am from Argentina
Avatar
Avatar
Voxel
u make better textures then
When you eat something you have the right to judge the taste of it, although you can hardly make something like this
Avatar
voxel -> gigachad
Avatar
mfs banned me for being afk while I was playing lmao
Avatar
me responden?
17:32
no tengo amigos
17:32
:C
Avatar
Avatar
ReiTW
@Rockus well said mostly everything, I use one secret thing to filter too, but heinrich knows that
so they can still implement it right
Avatar
private ddnet server with auto streaming the game, wouldnt make it secret @louis
17:39
x))
Avatar
nah, private isn't a solution
Avatar
with a web connection, where u can write as a spectator and watch the game xd
17:42
can't the isp provider do anything about vali?
Avatar
can't people just ruin the fun for him? just kick him in every server he's in
Avatar
Avatar
spur
can't people just ruin the fun for him? just kick him in every server he's in
he doesnt really play, hes ass at the game
17:46
just good at ddosing
17:46
well actually mid at ddosing, we just got no protection
Avatar
him playing is still fun for him, don't let him have fun
Avatar
NECESITO AMIGOS
17:47
I NEED FRIENDS, I AM FROM ARGENTINA
Avatar
hey, whats the bind so I can deactivate the deepfly bind?
18:03
like a button
Avatar
DDNet client has a multitude of commands and settings that can be bound to nearly any key or mouse button. You can enter commands into the console, which by default is accessed by pressing F1.
Avatar
i don't get it what the i have to write in f1
18:09
bind x "fire+; cl_dummy_hammer 0 doesnt work
18:12
it did not work plant D;
Avatar
bind mouse1 "+fire"
Avatar
Avatar
Plant
bind mouse1 "+fire"
Thats probably what I already have.. to stop my dummy from copying my hammer I have to go to controls and bind mouse1 to fire so my dummy stops kinda annoying
18:16
everytime I activate my deepfly bind, mouse1 in controls unbinds (fire)
18:17
maybe thats causing the problem?
Avatar
Bomb | DerpDEX | Ambit Finance 2022-05-15 18:21:41Z
One button is to activate deepfly, the other is to deactivate it
18:22
You can make it toggle on/off too, but it's a little more complicated
Avatar
Avatar
spur
can't people just ruin the fun for him? just kick him in every server he's in
thats like kicking a hornets nest,you just give him more reason to be an ass
18:26
if he cant play then no one can kind of situation
Avatar
Avatar
Rockus
so they can still implement it right
probably
Avatar
not playing dummy is perfect solution
Avatar
vali, if you're watching this convo, get some sense in your head and do something productive in ur life
Avatar
now you made him more mad, rip al NLD servers
Avatar
leak his address on 4chan
18:35
and wonder what might happen
18:35
monkalaugh
Avatar
Avatar
spur
now you made him more mad, rip al NLD servers
he has to remember that there's always crazier people that himself
Avatar
unbearable
18:50
from what i read
18:50
its a fucking kid
18:51
no shit he got time to do stuff when his parents are breast feeding a braindead kid that cant do shit
Avatar
Avatar
Ryozuki
leak his address on 4chan
greenthing
Avatar
Avatar
Ryozuki
leak his address on 4chan
thats just hiring a hitman at this point :(
Avatar
but u dont have to waste money
Avatar
Is there a platform where I can watch a new tournament
Avatar
ddnet tournament?
19:26
there is none announced that i know
19:26
but on yt you can find past tournaments i guess
Avatar
are ger servers all time down now?
Avatar
Avatar
Steinchen
Thats probably what I already have.. to stop my dummy from copying my hammer I have to go to controls and bind mouse1 to fire so my dummy stops kinda annoying
create deepfly.txt in teeworlds folder open and write echo Deep Fly ON bind ctrl+f "echo Deep Fly OFF; bind mouse1 +fire; bind ctrl+f exec deepfly.txt" bind mouse1 "+fire; +toggle cl_dummy_hammer 1 0" open ddnet exec deepfly.txt ctrl+f enjoy
Avatar
@Salmonιa i am Trop
Avatar
@Meekrioz why dont you archive the artwork
Avatar
what do you want from me?
21:08
omegaLUL
Avatar
put the artwork in a channel
21:11
in the archive category
Exported 370 message(s)