DDraceNetwork - showroom

@Im 'corneum when new part with corner strat?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFnqD9hgGcc&ab_channel=RockusTeeworlds

Rockus Teeworlds

corner world record v3bombay royal

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it's the uroboros corner

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Rockus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFnqD9hgGcc&ab_channel=RockusTeeworlds

00:10

I tried this one for abit couldn't even get it once

I never even knew that was possible

paradise

I tried this one for abit couldn't even get it once

it's acutally something that someone can get consistent at

00:12

i'm getting better and better at it

funman

I never even knew that was possible

xdd

00:12

its not rng too

00:13

would be cool to have a map with such part

Rockus

it's acutally something that someone can get consistent at

dont think so, maybe with an elaborate setup but its not very consistent to do this on any corner

i'm talking about that kind of corner where you can hook up

00:45

it requires skill

00:45

it's rly precise timing

ye but it depends a lot on starting coordinates etc. just cause its so precise

I DONT KNOW HOW TF BUT I FINISHED JUST FLY 1 IN 51.98

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i don't understand the need to flex a bind

01:53

game breaking bind shouldn't even exist gigachad

01:55

https://ddnet.tw/maps/Just-32-Fly-32-1/

01:55

a guy that started playing in 2021 getting r2 in this map says it all

01:56

https://ddnet.tw/maps/Just-32-Every-32-Fly/

01:56

another one

does his 80hours on the map says it all ?

80 hours? you're telling me he counted?

there are stats (edited)

do it 2p and tell me if 80 hours is enough

no ?

that's why that shit is dumb

it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ7ezD81du8&ab_channel=JustSpyker

Just Spyker

Just Fly Rank 1 UPDATED [Teeworlds]

01:59

this i respect

01:59

not your shitty bind

well i also have R1 with real person too soooo

it's not r1

stop act dumb like you haven't understand

02:01

you entirely get it

i don't get it

02:02

it's literally not r1

02:02

on the leaderboard

02:02

you're making that distinction yourself (edited)

he is tho

02:03

even if you remove dummy ranks

ty plsplsplstroll that what i meant

Plant

well i also have R1 with real person too soooo

.

ur the one who is discounting dummy ranks

02:04

np plantroll

why you ping me for a dot

iParano isn't a real person to Rockus PepeLaugh

r1 is literally him and his dummy

02:06

how is he r1 with a real person

02:06

when he isn't

come on your the 1st one to say dummy ranks are not real rank so i discounted dummy ranks

02:06

you absolute ass

that's rank 3

OMG YOU DUMB AF ?

??

02:06

no, you're the one being dumb

??FQS?F?QS?FF? SQ

Remove the dummy ranks and it's r1, stop trolling saddo

on the leaderboard it says 3

02:07

not 1

imagine

imagining

you're the one not understanding

02:08

ofc i know you're "r1" without the dummy ranks

02:08

but the point is, you're r3 with a real person, not r1

02:08

because it's literally impossible to beat your r1 with a real person

02:08

if you do it i'll give 1000€

ye but dummy will get nerf ?

02:09

isn't it ?

hes r1 on the dummy leaderboard and r1 on the real person leaderboard

louis

hes r1 on the dummy leaderboard and r1 on the real person leaderboard

but there's only one leaderboard

02:09

/top5team

omg

the "real person leaderboard" you're making it yourselves

I get your point, but it's not worth crying over.

yeah but ur making it seem like plant just abuses binds when he doesnt

02:09

well he does abuse binds

Skeith

I get your point, but it's not worth crying over.

it is

02:09

ofc he does

but hes not unskillful

his gameplay revolves around a retarded bind

There is no account system, there's nothing worth caring about

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i care about the future of the game (edited)

Also this is #showroom we shouldn't be talking here

and taking two players ranks from fly maps sucks

02:11

well, i'm showing my dissatifaction

02:11

or however you say it

you already showing it since 1 year

02:12

feels like you never enjoyed this game

02:12

every message you sending in this discord is 90% of the time negativity

02:12

"omg this map should not be ranked like this"

02:13

"remove dummy"

"remove dummy" LOL?

02:19

i enjoy the game, otherwise i wouldn't have continued playing

update on darker_grass

03:48

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this looks epic

Voxel

update on darker_grass

Gib mapres

imagine speedrunning

Plant

I DONT KNOW HOW TF BUT I FINISHED JUST FLY 1 IN 51.98

Actually the perfect run

06:50

Also this dark grass mapres is fkn hot

Honestly the discussion that you guys had Plant and Rockus is an issue that deserves to be adressed but perhaps more peacefully

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Plant

I DONT KNOW HOW TF BUT I FINISHED JUST FLY 1 IN 51.98

Respect

I'm going quite fast

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Pipou

I'm going quite fast

i am speed monkalaugh

Plant

I DONT KNOW HOW TF BUT I FINISHED JUST FLY 1 IN 51.98

Thats weak. When 51.96 (edited)

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Fluday

Honestly the discussion that you guys had Plant and Rockus is an issue that deserves to be adressed but perhaps more peacefully

When you do, don't do it in showroom

Pipou

I'm going quite fast

wait how tf

09:08

doesnt it cap at 9k??

Yey im r1 justfly again without any more tries on it! thanks prockus, thanks plantiii (edited)

09:11

iproano

09:30

Close enough @Plant @Rockus

Cireme

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this guy was in the turfu mon reuf

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Rockus

the "real person leaderboard" you're making it yourselves

ur like the worst type of person to argue with ever

10:36

takes everything 100% literally just to continue arguing

10:36

or use for "fodder" for ur argument xd

10:37

clearly he meant he had r1 in the past with another player

10:37

you probably knew what he meant too, but you just chose to go "???" because it made you seem intelligent

Tell him

10:41

Facts

10:41

Say it with your chest!

my chest speaks for itself

lynn

clearly he meant he had r1 in the past with another player

while rockus is playing dumb, that "r1 with real player" thing is objectively biased

11:16

realistically no good player will ever tryhard the map

11:17

because they know they simply cant beat the current r1, so why would they invest 5+ hours into a map just to get a rank 3 and an unofficial "real player r1"

11:17

if there was an actual competition, the "real players r1" would probably be bettr than the current one (edited)

11:17

but clearly nowhere near the 51 sec that plant achieved with his dummy (which is rockus' main frustration) (edited)

Pipou

I'm going quite fast

rofl nice calculation bug xD

so if i nice understood, snail is actually telling me that im the "real player r1" on justfly?

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11:50

and plant is "real player r1" and at the same time "unreal player r1"

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I feel like the conversation wasn't really about how good of a player plant is but more like how overpowered are dummy binds. I don't have that much experience with dummy but it's true that having a legal aimbot kinda seems unfair for WRs

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then add a /top5dummy

Dummy ranks drama = rockus started the discussion troll

drama = rockus started the discussion

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I like plants

snail

but clearly nowhere near the 51 sec that plant achieved with his dummy (which is rockus' main frustration) (edited)

Thanks for understanding

13:54

Its something that needs to be discussed

dont hate the player, hate the game

i mean

why is the bind op, exactly? everyone has access to it, anyone can achieve it, just because you dont spend the time to learn it doesnt mean its op, he spent hundreds and hundreds of hours learning it and now people think it's unfair just because of that

coradax started R1 all fly maps before me

14:03

i don’t remember that was a problem (edited)

edgehooks are unfair becuse i cant do them. without them i am actually rank1

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Fwiw I always thought it was a bit of a problem, just never really came up with a good solution that respects the amount of practice that goes into the dummy runs

14:04

In all honesty they probably belong to another ladder, that's what would be done in most other competitive/speedrunning communities

just like public rank1 but there its suddenly tw culture

all skipped map should have an other leaderboard? becoz it’s not fair for ppl doing it legitly

14:07

the problem will never get solved

14:07

there is always something unfair

the only problem i have with dummies on leaderboard is when you take 2 ranks using dummy copy on solo maps

The problem there is those skips if not patched out can be done by 2 humans with practice. Dummy runs involve a non-human player with inhuman accuracy and timing

cough coradax cough

Learath2

The problem there is those skips if not patched out can be done by 2 humans with practice. Dummy runs involve a non-human player with inhuman accuracy and timing

but technicaly its easier to do a dummy run because you dont need another person

Also that, but say everyone has access to atleast one partner, their partner still cant read brains like a dummy can

just remove dummy and problem is solved :O

friends are an unfair advantage i need a tshirt with that slogan

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Im 'corneum

edgehooks are unfair becuse i cant do them. without them i am actually rank1

edgehooks, edgejumps and a bit of weapons

Im 'corneum

edgehooks are unfair becuse i cant do them. without them i am actually rank1

the game itself is unfair because its already programmed if only we had to program it ourselves on each own i would be rank 1 fuckyousnail

14:10

u cant remove dummy

14:10

cuz ppl wont update

fuck i would ask for more ideas on darker_grass but i think this is the wrong time (edited)

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Learath2

In all honesty they probably belong to another ladder, that's what would be done in most other competitive/speedrunning communities

no, its like a skip found, people would accept it, integrate it on their runs and improve upon it

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i think the discussion is settled. remove dummy in next update, now lets stop talking about it

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also its impossible to differentiate between a dummy and player on a massive scale so creating another category will always be fruitless

14:12

maybe with teehistorian and some AI MACHINE LEARNING NEURAL NETWORK ^TM

Assuming dummy players arent playing in bad faith, we could actually split ladders

Learath2

Assuming dummy players arent playing in bad faith, we could actually split ladders

always assume bad faith

14:12

rule n1

Why though, plant is a nice guy. He wouldn't use blackmarket ddnet client to take r1s

an other leaderboard for 3 players CuteThonk

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plant may look like a cute plant but it may be just a face (edited)

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14:15

anyways

14:15

remove dummy

this is like the accounts discussion

14:15

it will never be done

14:15

lmao

14:15

2 leaderboard but no accounts system

so when accounts system

Plant

remove dummy

I don't have any friends to play with

@Rockus XD

14:45

boss

Ryozuki

no, its like a skip found, people would accept it, integrate it on their runs and improve upon it

no, when a skip is found and people get r1 on it they dont want anybody else to see it or do the skip to beat them thonk

its apparently bad to have competition in a speedrunning game

Im 'corneum

dont hate the player, hate the game

i hate the player as well because he literally doesn't understand, he thinks that his bind is fair lmfao

Ryozuki

no, its like a skip found, people would accept it, integrate it on their runs and improve upon it

ye, let me improve just fly r1 with @Brokecdx-

15:24

that's the thing

15:24

it's literally impossible to beat his rank with a normal person

15:24

but you don't play the game

15:24

so how would you understand it?

Plant

an other leaderboard for 3 players CuteThonk

?

someone else have asked for a checkmark if a team finished a map from start to finish as 2player which sounded like a good idea to see if someone cheated a top rank with more than 2players,if there was somehow a way to confirm it was a dummy rank they could use a mark on the website to indicate it

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saminho

boss

you already know

bad argument

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no

16:03

you're the most opionated guy yet you don't play the game

16:03

how does that work

oh ye i totally dont play the game

16:04

u need to be 24/7 connected to have an opinion

dude, you haven't been active in game since 2016

ur delusional

16:06

look my ranks page

you have 48 teamrank points and 48 rank points

16:06

so the leaderboards clearly don't affect you

???'

can still see ranks from december from you

16:07

you clearly play a lot

xdd

16:07

i still will have an opinion

16:07

and call on bullshit

guys guys

16:07

its ok (edited)

16:07

no need for this

your opinion is weak

this is like, oh you dont help developed the game, so any opinions u have about the development u have will be ignored

16:08

ur opinion is utterly trash

16:08

cuz its based around dismissing others

guys, guys

16:08

peace

he's retarded

is a great word

stfu guy with big dick

your opinion is trash since you don't even speedrun anything

Rockus

your opinion is trash since you don't even speedrun anything

true rockus does have a big one

16:08

oops

XD

wrong reply

ofc i do

im glad no one will do anything for the dummy thing

but judging by ryozuki's profile, he doesn't

16:09

they will

16:09

it's just a matter of time

16:09

when fly maps get infested by these bind ranks

16:09

what do you not understand?

16:09

sinecly is an example

16:09

started playing in 2021

16:09

he's r2 in just fly 1

ur just insanely jealous

16:09

get the skill and do it with dummy

16:10

ur just crying

what if i was jealous?

16:10

i can get the skill

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and do it with dummy

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ofc

do it

but that's not the game

go ahead

16:10

prove it

it's cooperative game

16:10

not playing with mysself

16:10

i don't have to prove shit to you

:)

even the admins agree with this

16:10

so?

16:10

will you listen to them

no

16:10

admins opinion is not valid

16:10

they dont play

lmao

wth

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well, learath plays way more than you

16:10

murpi

16:10

as well

16:10

lmfao

XD

then, let's maybe create a poll?

get the skillz and do it

16:11

stop crying

?

its ok

16:11

no need to fight

he's retarded xd

16:11

he gets so tilted quickly

where am i tilted?

you're literally shaking

16:12

go take a shower

16:12

you're sniping on discord 24/7

16:12

you smell bad

oh well

16:12

u just degraded the convo to ur average level

16:12

i guess its not worth anymore

you're not worth

16:12

my time

16:12

your opinion is weak

yes yes

you don't play the game

why u keep talking

i'm writing

16:12

16:13

you prob also think that having r1 2p on weapons is fair

16:13

kek

16:13

you can't even pseudo with someone else

tts

16:13

ok rip my internet

16:13

i sent this at xx:12

@Rockus chill out

you don't even understand how harder it is to get full speed pseudo with someone else other than dummy

16:14

i'm chill

16:14

maybe create a thread for this?

No, just drop it

why?

move to general

ok

im scrolling for days just to get to see some media

i understand it perfectly, my point is, if x map is more optimal with dummy then top ranks will be with dummy, and i have 0 problem with it, just another skill a top ranker will need to have

Send stronghold tower clips

Rockus

you smell bad

@murpi > #1 Always be respectful - Don't say or do anything that could be rude or offensive in any way.

how about gtfo of showroom

16:16

im so mature and wise

i guess rules are simply not upheld

I just joined, tried to view some pictures I don't know what this is all about

16:18

if you see someone breaking rules then ping discord moderators thonk

way to go admin

wow, i broke a rule, i deserve to be killed

16:18

show some common sense

16:19

and are you really offended? or just playing victim now?

@Discord Mod he keeps baiting me

16:19

and he actual was disrespectful to me

@Rockus if you're not going to chill out and stick to general for such discussions i'll time you out

i'm sorry but why don't you tell him the same lol

i never told u personal insults

Is the Position Speed Angle Display at the bottom right still to big?

such as go take a shower, u smell bad, etc

16:20

i hope a discord moderator uphelds the rules and takes action

c0d3d3v

Is the Position Speed Angle Display at the bottom right still to big?

looks good to me

17:11

me when tower

got bored, "optimized" the grass_0.7 mapres (edited)

Voxel

got bored, "optimized" the grass_0.7 mapres (edited)

svg? or what

nah, i just used the same grass_0.7, just rearranged in the editor

c0d3d3v

Is the Position Speed Angle Display at the bottom right still to big?

maybe make the size adjustable since not everyone plays the same

17:40

for what resolution did you optimize the hud?

c0d3d3v

Is the Position Speed Angle Display at the bottom right still to big?

perfect size

c0d3d3v

Is the Position Speed Angle Display at the bottom right still to big?

any reason it has background but the killfeed does not? imo they should be unified

17:55

or possibly a client command

lynn

any reason it has background but the killfeed does not? imo they should be unified

it is unified, its kinda "grouped" with the mini scoreboard bottom right

cl_hud_show_backgrounds cl_hud_background_color cl_hud_background_alpha

17:57

best way imo

lynn

any reason it has background but the killfeed does not? imo they should be unified

killfeed is constantly updating, and kind of not top priority in ddnet

Iza

it is unified, its kinda "grouped" with the mini scoreboard bottom right

meh, darker

yeah it is darker

17:57

fix pls

i still think we should get control over these

17:58

we already have a lot of control in the client, may as well let players make their game look like a mountain dew bottle

Voxel

killfeed is constantly updating, and kind of not top priority in ddnet

cl_show_killfeed 2 could be "only in Race modes"

17:59

might be nice

17:59

er, only in non-Race modes

17:59

the best way would be to refactor show 1

18:00

but that has backwards compatibility issue obviously (edited)

When did showroom suddenly become #general2 (edited)

this is actually related to graphics stuff i guess

Iza

maybe make the size adjustable since not everyone plays the same

keep it simple and stupid. Please no unnecessary settings. The font size is now the same as the chat, should be fine I think, but we could discuss about the size of the box.

Iza

yeah it is darker

yes its the color of the clock, I did it on purpose because the color of the mini score hud changes depending on some stuff, like its your own player and if its a team gameplay (edited)

Im 'corneum

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lmao

18:49

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c0d3d3v

yes its the color of the clock, I did it on purpose because the color of the mini score hud changes depending on some stuff, like its your own player and if its a team gameplay (edited)

its basically only the mini score board that uses different color. , the clock, the score board, the spectator board, all rounded rectangles (like recording info...) are in the color I used

Headshot

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this reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn87rSsnaEQ

Ryozuki

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